“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#568044 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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God didn't damn it, the beavers did :)
I've been asking him why he loathes, hates, fears (whatever his particular emotion is) Christianity.
I used to ask "Christians", but he's since said that its not Christians, it's Christianity. That's as far as I can get with him......
Haven't you been reading his posts? He covered that in pretty good detail.

“Ditat Deus”

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#568045 Dec 1, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Whoever wrote that goes off the premise that there are no original texts.
The Dead Sea Scrolls are a testimony to the accuracy and preservation of the Old Testament and provide confidence that the Old Testament existing today is the same Old Testament as that which used by Jesus.
The bible was written over a 1,500 year span by 40 authors and it still holds up to scrutiny.
Name one other book that can say the same....
New Age writes:
Do you always contradict yourself from post to post?
um.....

Maybe you're smarter than me, I see no contradiction.

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#568046 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The dum-dum answer is "God works in mysterious ways".
If you believe in God, you know that to be true.


lol

“Ditat Deus”

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#568047 Dec 1, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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hahaha, no, but you just claimed that Adam was an early human - the "first" human or something.
Guess what? There was no first human :)
No first human? This is your opinion?

Wouldn't there need to be a first?

“Ditat Deus”

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#568048 Dec 1, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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What you consider evidence isn't evidence by the standards of science. Buddhists' evidence is as good as yours - so why aren't they correct about Buddha and you not correct about God?
Your science can neither prove nor disprove any deity, yes?

So why is something outside of science deemed impossible by science?

“Ditat Deus”

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#568049 Dec 1, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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That's the basic problem. "If" you believe, then the evidence is "true."
If you don't believe, it's quite easy to see the problems with what you consider evidence.
Makes sense. It do.

And if you don't believe in evolution and are outside the proverbial box, it's easy to see its flaws.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#568050 Dec 1, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Why didn't God make everything in an instant? He could've, why didn't He?
New Age writes:
Researching the questions you seek answers to will be the only way you learn that your religion is a false doctrine.
Good luck!
That was a rhetorical question, not a question I seek the answer to.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#568051 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, your culture - as in atheists. Muslims, Buddhist, ROTC aren't trying to disprove Christianity like your culture is.
Y'all have been doing it for over 2,000 years. Good luck to ya.
Atheism isn't a culture. Atheism is merely the lack of theistic belief in deities.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It's nice to see you have such confidence in my reasoning abilities.
Thanks, it's based upon your history in posting to the threads here..
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It doesn't bother me at all, don't flatter yourself.
Why do you bring it up so often, to not just myself, but many others?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
In what way?(do you think)
That your deity myth disproves itself? Lack of proof, wildly varying belief sets within the myth, variations, fantastical stories, a reliance upon the "supernatural"<=( a meaningless term).

It's the same for all mythic beliefs.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Nice to see you lump yourself with theists when it suits your argument.

I'm not sure why you'd object to that, I consider you and myself to have similar views when it comes to deities you don't have a belief in either.

I just happen to have went one step further than theists. Yourself included.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
This country was founded on religion by religious men.
Irrelevant statement.

That doesn't mean your deity belief is true, no more than it would support that the acceptance of slavery, since it was widespread at the time, infers the notion that slavery is a valued - and legitimate - American belief in this day and age.

It doesn't make the religious/deity belief true.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It is still a religious country by more than 80% of the population.
Another irrelevant statement and assertion, as it pertains to your deity belief being based in fact. It isn't.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Sucks when you're the minority huh?
You mean the minority of people who don't have your faith supported belief? No, not at all. I'm reminded of the words of of Anatole France when you make such a statement.

"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France

If 2 billion people believe a foolish thing, too, is just as foolish.

You find solace in numbers and feel as if your belief actually means something because many believe as you do, else you wouldn't continually try to use statements such as - "It is still a religious country by more than 80% of the population" - to bolster your arguments.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
But you are a minority by choice.
If you mean that I simply didn't accept what I was told and searched beyond those assertions looking for proofs and evidence, and found those assertions valueless, then yes, I'm in that minority.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You've chosen to be an atheist.
Bingo.

I'm also an aunicornist and an achupacabraist.

There is an entire list of things I will not blindly believe in, with only a desire to do so as my reason, since there is no unbiased proof or evidence for those things.

Leprechauns are on that list too, do you have a belief that leprechauns exist? Why?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That's fine with me and I'd say most religious Americans. Until you try to throw YOUR unproven beliefs at us & try to change American values.
What are my unproven beliefs?

Are you saying your unproven beliefs deserve consideration or hold a special place and should be accepted because - "that's how we've always done it around here" -?

“It's all about the struggle”

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#568052 Dec 1, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yes, among others.
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That's a pretty ignorant answer. Did you just say that the bible was taught as literal truth under threat of death because ignorant people misinterpret it? Does that make sense to you?
And you're a pompous ass.

“Ditat Deus”

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#568053 Dec 1, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7zLuGwQyLyEXX
lol
lol

WTF was that?

May The Lord smite thee down!

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#568054 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No first human? This is your opinion?
Wouldn't there need to be a first?
your dumb

T-Town Clown style bitches!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#568055 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Fair enough. I recant the arguing remark.
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Right.
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I haven't, God has.
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Of course He can. And does.
Why did He choose Moses, Peter, Paul, etc? I don't know.
Moses had a sort if unnatural upbringing by pharaoh. He would've been the only one brave enough to approach him like a regular guy. He was very humble before God & approached Him in that manner. He expressed himself, murdered out of rage & was a slow speaker.
The dum-dum answer is "God works in mysterious ways".
If you believe in God, you know that to be true.
"I haven't, God has."
- you wrote this in response to my question of 'Why do you limit "God"'?

Which leads me to ask you for clarification on your knowledge of what "God" can or cannot do.

How do you know what "God" can or cannot do, if you say "He" can do this?

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#568056 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Your science can neither prove nor disprove any deity, yes?
So why is something outside of science deemed impossible by science?
dumb, you are

T-Town Yoda style bitches!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#568057 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're such an argumentative f_ckin butch bitch.
Have you read ANYTHING I've written?!?
Actually, I regret having read almost everything you have posted here, the stupid from most of the posts makes my brain hurt just knowing you actually believe you know something.

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#568058 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Makes sense. It do.
And if you don't believe in evolution and are outside the proverbial box, it's easy to see its flaws.
Yousa big dum dum

T-Town Binks style bitches!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#568059 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That was a rhetorical question, not a question I seek the answer to.
In which, lies the issue of your belief.

Thank you.

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#568060 Dec 1, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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What you consider evidence isn't evidence by the standards of science. Buddhists' evidence is as good as yours - so why aren't they correct about Buddha and you not correct about God?
Because Jesus said salvation comes only through me, but buddha didn't say that. Buddha was more concerned about people suffering in this world than salvation, so he was a false prophet!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#568061 Dec 1, 2012
scaritual wrote:
I'm not sure why you'd object to that, I consider you and myself to have similar views when it comes to deities you don't have a belief in either.
I just happen to have went one step further than theists. Yourself included.
Very interesting comment. I hadn't considered that at all, ever.

That an atheist & I would have the same views as, say Buddhism.

Scar, you just taught me something. Intentionally or inadvertently, I don't know.

But I thank you.

I think my eyes just popped open about what an atheist truly is & what really goes on in their minds.
Are you saying your unproven beliefs deserve consideration or hold a special place and should be accepted because - "that's how we've always done it around here" -?
Yes. I'm a "traditional American"
I have a 7 mpg truck, I'm a gun owner, a dog lover, a family man and I love God.

I don't want "my America" to change, if that makes any sense.

“Ditat Deus”

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#568062 Dec 1, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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your dumb
T-Town Clown style bitches!
And I thought you were just starting to admire Redneck.......

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#568063 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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um.....
Maybe you're smarter than me, I see no contradiction.
hahahaaa...

Thanks for the belly laugh.

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