Prove there's a god.

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#567940 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
"thanks to the Internet"?!?
lol
Yes, seriously, you're probaly ignorant of the fact that the internet is a vast repository of legitimate information and fact, a virtual library at your fingertips.

I wish I'd had access to the information it provides over twenty years ago, when I had to visit libraries, accessing or checking out books, and spend hours and enormous amounts of time reading and researching what I can find now - on the internet - in the matter of a a few to 30 minutes, at times more, but essentially in a fraction of the time it used to take going page by page, author by author.

You seem to think since you don't trust the internet means something, it doesn't.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Thanks to the Internet, you can Google "Genesis is true" and "Genesis is a lie" and get good answers for both....
That's where intellect and source verification comes into play, maybe you lack that capacity and those skills.

I don't.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Don't believe every blog you read.
That's rich coming from a person who doesn't understand the origins of the bible - that you think is original and true - because you read it in the bible and you believe it..
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Educate yourself in the bible before you criticize it.
I am educated in the bible, and its origins, quite so.

You should try it.

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#567941 Dec 1, 2012
Evil-lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
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Oh come on now, "evil" is a philosophical concept, stick to science and the objectively ascertainable.
God is Omnipresent implying that He permeates all of reality; which would include the mind of men. So you are right; God is ALSO a projection of our psyche... but of what value is your assertion that He is evil?
an evil god has no value

but is a fact of christian belief

the evil of christianity is far more then mere philosophy

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#567943 Dec 1, 2012
homosexuality if EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>If one looks at the small number of atheists and gays, then one must conclude that gays are atheists and the remaining atheists are in the closet gays.
Both groups try to hide within evolution and pretend that it supports their delusion and hatred. In fact, by evolution theory, homosexuality is a mutant gene that must be distinguished because it is inferior and weakens the gene pool. In fact, this is true, even though there is no genetic causation for gayness, but the mental and sexual defect are destructive and it breeds pedophilia.
statistics show that "atheists" now comprise aprox. 18%
of America; which is very close to an intellectual majority.

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#567944 Dec 1, 2012
Evil-lotion is Rub-ish wrote:
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Despite all that; the forum is entitled: Prove there is a God.
So what proof are you hoping to see?
I mean it doesnt require the same amount of effort or evidence to convince every one; so what would just outright prove that God exists just like you do?
how about he does some chit, like he use to....

or how about a blow-job from christ

you know

something a skeptic could believe

RiversideRedneck

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#567945 Dec 1, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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in a mannor that all of his children would understand.
tell me why is it that a god would give faith and understanding to an empty vessel like yourself but not to honorable persons?
You are in error, faith is not given, grace is.

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#567946 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You don't EVER get to call me dumb.....
In any case avoid lightning, and electricity around wet things.
you are an uneducated blow-hard rube

you are so stupid, that you are proud of your uneducated status

your belief set is that of a ten year old christian, i

RiversideRedneck

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#567947 Dec 1, 2012
scaritual wrote:
Yes, seriously, you're probaly ignorant of the fact that the internet is a vast repository of legitimate information and fact, a virtual library at your fingertips.
How could anyone in 2012 not know that? Don't be ridiculous.
I wish I'd had access to the information it provides over twenty years ago, when I had to visit libraries, accessing or checking out books, and spend hours and enormous amounts of time reading and researching what I can find now - on the internet - in the matter of a a few to 30 minutes, at times more, but essentially in a fraction of the time it used to take going page by page, author by author.
Agreed. It's a nice tool to have.
You seem to think since you don't trust the internet means something, it doesn't.
I said don't trust every blog you read, I didn't say don't trust the interwebs........
Reading to understand is hard, I know.
That's where intellect and source verification comes into play, maybe you lack that capacity and those skills.
I don't.
I don't either. Remember the whole "don't trust every blog you read" line? Verification is important, but it's equally important to know whether or not you're just reading someone's opinion.
That's rich coming from a person who doesn't understand the origins of the bible - that you think is original and true - because you read it in the bible and you believe it..
That's rich coming from someone who thinks they know the origins of Genesis.(we were talking about Genesis, not the bible.)
Reading to understand is hard, I know.
I am educated in the bible, and its origins, quite so.
You should try it.
It seems to me that you're not very biblically educated.

Opinionated, yes.
Educated, no.

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#567949 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Many people are starting to realize that Moses disn't plagiarize these accounts of creation, and the flood. Instead there is evidence that Moses took the earlier documents of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Enoch, Isaac, and Jacob, these documents that were passed on from one generation to the next, and put them together into one book called Genesis.
Genesis 1 has no parrallel anywhere in the ancient world outside the Bible. The creation myths from Egypt and Mesopotamia can hardly be set alongside Genesis as a parallel in any meaningful sense.
There are no other written sources or evidence found in antiquity, other than in the Bible to support a historic Moses. The Moses stories in the Bible were first written in the last centuries BC. That's all that can be claimed as there are no extant copies of the OT/TORAH available beyond 300-200BCE. There are numerous examples of other cultures beliefs, written or recorded in various ways, some as old as 1500 BCE and older - available today - that predate biblical accounts.

Even www.answersingenesis.org admits: "It is true that there is no evidence for Moses, the ten plagues that fell upon Egypt or the exodus"

You have a religious belief, supported by a faith. This means that you require no evidence to believe it, this means you will ignore evidence that contradicts your faith supported belief.

Faith - is your evidence.

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#567950 Dec 1, 2012
homosexuality if EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>No, God created order and set the entire design. Even what scientist look at, which is science, is the order that God created.
I find it odd that your type never applies to same logic to homosexuality.
You know, it is easier to say that gays are born that way, no evidence but if you don't agree then you are gay.
..or, gays may not be born that way, but we did not choose it. So, now, you gays say believe you just because.
....but, you will not believe Christians, just because.
It sounds like you atheists are the real bigots, hypocrites and haters, right?
the stupid bleeds from the post

few can be so dull and no know so

but among then is our patty the Yd-united-cake

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#567951 Dec 1, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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in a mannor that all of his children would understand.
tell me why is it that a god would give faith and understanding to an empty vessel like yourself but not to honorable persons?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You are in error, faith is not given, grace is.
ummmmm---

tell me why is it that a god would give grace and understanding to an empty vessel like yourself but not to honorable persons?

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#567952 Dec 1, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I'm thinking "Adonis sales"?
No? How about "men with pecs, for sale"?
No? How about "hot slaves. Expensive"?
Ok, well, damn, you come up with something!
The last one I sold was sold as "hot white guy. does dishes if you hit him. doesn't speak English."
You wouldn't believe how hard it is to treat an Ancient Greek white guy how to follow simple commands of doing dishes.
Timn, I swear, the next batch, we are not using Alexander the Great's DNA code. Far too rebellious!
That was a bad idea indeed. I'm thinking we find the DNA of a young boy who was involved in pederasty. That way, he will be submissive, beautiful, and probably intelligent enough to carry on a conversation in those rare moments when he is not performing his... contractual obligations. Perhaps we can call it Ancient Lovers. We need a campy name.

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#567953 Dec 1, 2012
homosexuality if EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>No,you are not and if so, then you are a liar.
what you have patty, is apologetic, and then only those of one small sect. apologetic is not education, they are opinion in the extreme.

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#567954 Dec 1, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>*snicker*
Hey, wait - you're not old enough to remember that song?
I remember it from somewhere, probably TV.

It wouldn't have been in a porno, would it?

RiversideRedneck

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#567955 Dec 1, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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statistics show that "atheists" now comprise aprox. 18%
of America; which is very close to an intellectual majority.
Oh boy. The ol' "I'm an atheist which means I'm intelligent" remark.....

LMMFAOOOOO

Besides, your 18% is a lie.

According to wiki:

"A 2008 Gallup poll showed that a smaller 6% of the U.S. population believed that no god or universal spirit exists."
"The most recent ARIS report, released March 9, 2009, found in 2008, 34.2 million Americans (15.0%) claim no religion, of which 1.6% explicitly describes itself as atheist"

1.6%?!?

lol, what a number....

RiversideRedneck

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#567956 Dec 1, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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you are an uneducated blow-hard rube
you are so stupid, that you are proud of your uneducated status
your belief set is that of a ten year old christian, i
You're what? So smart you can't even finish a sentence?

RiversideRedneck

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#567957 Dec 1, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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There are no other written sources or evidence found in antiquity, other than in the Bible to support a historic Moses. The Moses stories in the Bible were first written in the last centuries BC. That's all that can be claimed as there are no extant copies of the OT/TORAH available beyond 300-200BCE. There are numerous examples of other cultures beliefs, written or recorded in various ways, some as old as 1500 BCE and older - available today - that predate biblical accounts.
Even www.answersingenesis.org admits: "It is true that there is no evidence for Moses, the ten plagues that fell upon Egypt or the exodus"
You have a religious belief, supported by a faith. This means that you require no evidence to believe it, this means you will ignore evidence that contradicts your faith supported belief.
Faith - is your evidence.
"There are no other written sources or evidence found in antiquity, other than in the Bible to support a historic Moses"

Why would there be?

RiversideRedneck

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#567958 Dec 1, 2012
karl44 wrote:
karl44 wrote:
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in a mannor that all of his children would understand.
tell me why is it that a god would give faith and understanding to an empty vessel like yourself but not to honorable persons?
<quoted text>
ummmmm---
tell me why is it that a god would give grace and understanding to an empty vessel like yourself but not to honorable persons?
Are you implying that I am not honorable?

Are you implying that you are?

Your query is lacking in definition.

Try again.

RiversideRedneck

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#567959 Dec 1, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I remember it from somewhere, probably TV.
It wouldn't have been in a porno, would it?
LMAO! TwB, you're such a goober :)

Is "brown chicken, brown cow" your theme song?

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#567960 Dec 1, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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It's even worse than that. The god also created a monster, unleashed it on the earth, and left his naive and undisciplined children alone with the tree and the monster.
You don't have to be omniscient to see what's coming next. I'm no lawyer, but I think that's depraved indifference. Or perfect love and infinite intelligence. They're so easy to confuse.
A kid puts a scorpion, a peanut, and a mouse in a small box, and waits.

But he loves the mouse. Right.

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#567961 Dec 1, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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How could anyone in 2012 not know that? Don't be ridiculous.
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Agreed. It's a nice tool to have.
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I said don't trust every blog you read, I didn't say don't trust the interwebs........
Reading to understand is hard, I know.
Nothing I supplied came from a "blog". You didn't understand what you read that I supplied.

I don't think you understand much of what you read.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I don't either.
Now we're getting somewhere.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Remember the whole "don't trust every blog you read" line? Verification is important, but it's equally important to know whether or not you're just reading someone's opinion.
I supplied source, not a "blog". I verified the source(S) in various ways.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That's rich coming from someone who thinks they know the origins of Genesis.(we were talking about Genesis, not the bible.)[QUOTE/]

We know this, the earliest known example of the biblical Genesis dates to 300-200 BCE.

"The oldest surviving Hebrew Bible manuscripts date to about the 2nd century BCE (fragmentary). The oldest record of the complete text survives in a Greek translation called the Septuagint, dating to the 4th century CE (Codex Sinaiticus). The oldest extant manuscripts of the vocalized Masoretic text, which modern editions are based upon, date to the 9th century CE." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible...

"The Aleppo Codex (c. 920 CE) and Leningrad Codex (c. 1008 CE) were the oldest Hebrew language manuscripts of the Tanakh. The 1947 find at Qumran of the Dead Sea scrolls pushed the manuscript history of the Tanakh back a millennium from the two earliest complete codices" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscr...

That's what we know. To speak of Genesis as being older than that is pure speculation.
[QUOTE who="RiversideRedneck "]Reading to understand is hard, I know.
For you, thanks for admitting it, you example your lack of reading comprehension quite often on the PTAG thread and others.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
It seems to me that you're not very biblically educated.
Opinionated, yes.
Educated, no.
Tell that to my teachers, they would disagree.

Funny, that.

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