Prove there's a god.

[KittenKoder]

OCB wrote:

<quoted text>I'm NOT wrong. The majority of kids have cell phones.
Gee- your "majority rules" mindset doesn't work too well for you when it's not convenient for you, does it, RR?
Just because YOUR kids don't get bullied for not having cell phones does NOT mean that NO kids get bullied for not having cell phones.
You're an isolationist IDIOT.
And you should actually USE google, but of course you won't, because the FACTS contradict your state of delusion.
Get lost, you IDIOT.

Did you get bullied for liking a certain music? Color? Hat? Skirt? Brand?...

The list goes on, you failed to demonstrate that there is an actual increase because of anything. Just because the "latest" changes, doesn't mean that it's to blame. Do you know that most victims of bullies never say anything in real life? Not to their parents, teachers, or anyone. They take it and forget about it, or try to until they commit suicide. Online though, they post these thoughts all the time, their parents see it, their teachers see it, the authorities see it, because now they feel like they can talk about it. It gets addressed, then added to the statistics, if not reported, it's not added to your statistics.

Again, Killary already tried this nonsense against video games, technology has improved things drastically in the world today, and you cannot deny that. You just sound jaded because you can't get the "latest." Well, my computer is more than 5 years old, I prefer the older models for developing because then I am sure of compatibility reaching the largest audience, and it's done me good so far. I also don't own a Pravda, but I like my tiny little handmade looking purse, it's easy to conceal.

[OCB]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
Helloooooo...... Anyone there?
At what point did I profess US stats on cell phones? I was talking about MY kids in THEIR schools.
Why are you arguing that? You said kids get bullied because they don't have cell phones. YOU'RE WRONG!
You haven't a clue what YOU'RE talking about. Can you even pose a debate without Google...?

You really ARE an idiot. Kids DO get bullied by other kids for not having what they have. It is a form of PEER PRESSURE and there is a thin line between TEASING someone for not having a cell phone, iPod, etc. and BULLYING them for not having a cell phone, iPod, etc.

Anyway, don't bother me anymore.......sinking to your level could give one a really bad case of the bends.

[RiversideRedneck]

OCB wrote:

<quoted text>I'm NOT wrong. The majority of kids have cell phones.
Gee- your "majority rules" mindset doesn't work too well for you when it's not convenient for you, does it, RR?
Just because YOUR kids don't get bullied for not having cell phones does NOT mean that NO kids get bullied for not having cell phones.
You're an isolationist IDIOT.
And you should actually USE google, but of course you won't, because the FACTS contradict your state of delusion.
Get lost, you IDIOT.

No kids in my area get bullied for having or not having a damn cell phone, OCB.

I don't give a shit what your sad lil stats say that 75% of *teens* have a cell phone. Did you bother to see what age of teen has them? Do you remember that kids that are 18 & 19 are teens and NOT in high school usually?

Did you bother to see what type of bullying is going on? Is it real or is it cyber? Do you even care?

Do you condone teens in school having cell phones?

[Happy Lesbo]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>
Why do you think it's ok for gays to come out but think its not ok if some people don't like it?

.. why do you think it's OK to be a misogynistic believer but think its not OK if some people don't like it ??..

[RiversideRedneck]

OCB wrote:

<quoted text>Are you really this stupid? Don't talk to me anymore.

Quitter.

[Catcher1]

Happy Lesbo wrote:

<quoted text>
.. what makes you think I have that much power? Nobody takes instructions from me ..

I do, sometimes.

[KittenKoder]

OCB wrote:

<quoted text>You really ARE an idiot. Kids DO get bullied by other kids for not having what they have. It is a form of PEER PRESSURE and there is a thin line between TEASING someone for not having a cell phone, iPod, etc. and BULLYING them for not having a cell phone, iPod, etc.
Anyway, don't bother me anymore.......sinking to your level could give one a really bad case of the bends.

You have still not demonstrated anything is to blame aside from the parents of the bullies.

[RiversideRedneck]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>
Pft, I don't know. But it's in the bible, and it's a staple of all religions.

Don't assume that we live our lives waiting for the "end times". We don't. It could happen today, it could happen 67,453 years from now....

[Catcher1]

nanoanomaly wrote:

<quoted text>The tone of your earlier post suggested that you thought everyone should run around naked in public. Considering how many people there are in the world that means that most children would have a considerable amount of crotches invading their personal space, from walking in the mall to standing in line at the checkout at every store they enter. I never mentioned nudists, as in nudist camps, jackass. I'm not the one here who brought up the subject of public nudity. Can the self righteous bs.

I think I may have been the one who brought it up.

Never thought it would lead to so much disharmony here.

[RiversideRedneck]

OCB wrote:

<quoted text>You really ARE an idiot. Kids DO get bullied by other kids for not having what they have. It is a form of PEER PRESSURE and there is a thin line between TEASING someone for not having a cell phone, iPod, etc. and BULLYING them for not having a cell phone, iPod, etc.
Anyway, don't bother me anymore.......sinking to your level could give one a really bad case of the bends.

I know kids get bullied. But you're implying that all kids that don't have a freakin cell phone get bullied. YOU'RE WRONG!!

The bends? Are you diving while texting?

:)

[RiversideRedneck]

Happy Lesbo wrote:

<quoted text>
.. why do you think it's OK to be a misogynistic believer but think its not OK if some people don't like it ??..

I don't & never suggested that I did.

You can be gay. That's ok. I don't have to like it borgata ok, too.

I can be mysoginistic. That's ok. You don't have to like it.

We're not hurting each other, so I say it's fine. I think the only "damage" I could cause you is mental. If you can't handle that then you should keep your private life to yourself.

[OCB]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>
Did you get bullied for liking a certain music? Color? Hat? Skirt? Brand?...
The list goes on, you failed to demonstrate that there is an actual increase because of anything. Just because the "latest" changes, doesn't mean that it's to blame. Do you know that most victims of bullies never say anything in real life? Not to their parents, teachers, or anyone. They take it and forget about it, or try to until they commit suicide. Online though, they post these thoughts all the time, their parents see it, their teachers see it, the authorities see it, because now they feel like they can talk about it. It gets addressed, then added to the statistics, if not reported, it's not added to your statistics.
Again, Killary already tried this nonsense against video games, technology has improved things drastically in the world today, and you cannot deny that. You just sound jaded because you can't get the "latest." Well, my computer is more than 5 years old, I prefer the older models for developing because then I am sure of compatibility reaching the largest audience, and it's done me good so far. I also don't own a Pravda, but I like my tiny little handmade looking purse, it's easy to conceal.

You don't have a CLUE about me, Kitten- not even a glimmer of one.

I'm sorry that you're so defensive about the internet; I use it on a daily basis and just as much for personal reasons as for work reasons, but unlike you, I don't see it as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

And what makes you think I can't get the "latest"? LOL!!!

But I don't own anything that is Pravda and have no desire to do so.

I am quite the minimalist and a big believer that in many ways, less IS more.

And sorry- but you ARE wrong about bullying. Take the internet out of the equation and the fact remains that bullying has increased- or do you not think a kid brandishing a weapon at school is a form of bullying and something that NEVER occurred when I was in school?

[OCB]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>
You have still not demonstrated anything is to blame aside from the parents of the bullies.

You need to stop so fiercely defending the internet to at least be able to take a step back and see it for what it is- a double edged sword with there being good and bad to it.

[boooots]

Hidingfromyou wrote:

<quoted text>
Yes! It's crazy!
This thing we have all warned you against, taught that is dirty and compelled you to hide, even from you, is now your spouses. Enjoy!
What a crazed message.
You know the really twisted thing? Japanese culture does the same thing to women, only without religion! I'm still trying to figure that one out - I really don't understand it. I mean, the Christian problem with nudity and genitals is basically spelled out in the Bible; it's part of the religion.
But why would this be a problem in a secular nation? I think it has to do with patriarchy and the notion of women's pollution. A dichotomy of the sexes to reinforce the status quo - but I really don't know. Any ideas?

Since many primitive cultures (not all) seem to cover at least their genitals, even in hot jungles, perhaps humans have developed a natural aversion to showing those parts. Possibly since they or parts in close proximity are also related to elimination of wastes, perhaps people feel that is a private thing, and then extrapolate to include not exposing those parts at all.

In my case though it was deeply indoctrinated into me that my parts were naughty (though I might have made that interpretation from some harmless comment, which may not have been meant that way.

[Anon]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>
You have still not demonstrated anything is to blame aside from the parents of the bullies.

Look into Facebook bullying.

[OCB]

Anon wrote:

<quoted text>
Look into Facebook bullying.

Kitten can't do that. She fiercely defends the internet like a mother tiger defending her cubs.

She can't see that the internet- like so many other things- is a double edged sword, and that like most other things, with the good comes the bad.

I have already posted that there has always been bullying; Kitten bristles at the fact that the internet has provided yet another venue for bullying to take place and as a result, bullying has increased.

[OCB]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>
Did you get bullied for liking a certain music? Color? Hat? Skirt? Brand?...
The list goes on, you failed to demonstrate that there is an actual increase because of anything. Just because the "latest" changes, doesn't mean that it's to blame. Do you know that most victims of bullies never say anything in real life? Not to their parents, teachers, or anyone. They take it and forget about it, or try to until they commit suicide. Online though, they post these thoughts all the time, their parents see it, their teachers see it, the authorities see it, because now they feel like they can talk about it. It gets addressed, then added to the statistics, if not reported, it's not added to your statistics.
Again, Killary already tried this nonsense against video games, technology has improved things drastically in the world today, and you cannot deny that. You just sound jaded because you can't get the "latest." Well, my computer is more than 5 years old, I prefer the older models for developing because then I am sure of compatibility reaching the largest audience, and it's done me good so far. I also don't own a Pravda, but I like my tiny little handmade looking purse, it's easy to conceal.

And no....I didn't get bullied for my taste in music or colors or anything else. Then again, my tastes pretty much aligned with my peers.

For the kids whose tastes were quite different from other kids, I wouldn't say they were bullied in the technical sense of the word, but they were teased and ostracized, both of which are a form of bullying.

Do note I never said bullying hasn't always existed- what I did say and what IS fact is that it HAS increased due to modern technology with a major part of that technology being the INTERNET.

Then again, I never said the internet was a bad thing or should be banned nor did I ever say that about video games.

However, there IS a direct correlation between childhood obesity and computers. Instead of kids playing outside as much as they used to they are getting less exercise due to sitting in front of computers. I would imagine the same can be said of the increase in adult obesity.

A body in motion tends to stay in motion; a body that has its ass on a chair all day in front of a computer tends to get fat and out of shape.

[RiversideRedneck]

Anon wrote:

<quoted text>
Look into Facebook bullying.

LMAO! What's that? A cyber punch to the cyber nose?

Gimme a break.

[RiversideRedneck]

OCB wrote:

You need to...take a step back and see it for what it is- a double edged sword with there being good and bad to it.

THAT we can agree on.

Do you think pedophelia has increased because of the interwebs or do you think it's just become more known?

[KittenKoder]

Anon wrote:

<quoted text>
Look into Facebook bullying.

I have. Still doesn't prove anything more than we didn't know all these bullies existed until they brought it online. Still supporting my point.