Prove there's a god.

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River Tam wrote:
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Polygamy has always been.
Why would anyone want to be straight? What's the deal?
I don't know what you see. You'd have to ask them.
sup wit dat?
Polygamy has always been what?

Straight? Because the male goes inside the female...(just like plumbing parts)

I explained what I see. You're gay. I assume you know those kind of gays. What's the deal?

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"In some cultures, parents have sex in front of their children. It is seen as a natural part of life"
In what crazy way is it natural for a child to watch their patents have sex?!
In American culture, and in all civilized societies, nudity is a private thing and an adult thing. There's no justifiable reason that a child should see their parents naked. I remember getting creeped out just HEARING my parents screwing in the next room. I was never afraid of nudity or sex, but when it comes to ones parents, it's a whole nother ball game.
Some things should stay sacred. Parents having sex away from their kids eyes & ears needs to be one of them.
That is because you were indoctrinated to feel that way, likely by your parents, or if not, by society as a whole, which has always treated sex as something dirty or at least naughty. I still would be uncomfortable today even if my mother wanted to talk about sex with me or she wanted to talk about how her sex life with dad was, but with 10 pregnancies, 2 miscarriages, and 8 delivered live children, they must have done it somewhere sometime, and we had a relatively small house where we were not in our parent's bedroom, but we could certainly have heard them if they had been making any verbal comments relating to their lovemaking.

I never once thought my parents were in the act of having sex right up to living with them for a couple months after I had been married for part of a year, and had moved back to the farm from university, but as yet did not have a home of my own.

Whether any of my siblings ever caught them in the act, I don't know, because none ever mentioned it to me.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No no no no no no no........
*must..........resist......... .
.. resist, resist, delay, delay. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated ..

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I hope you know that you will never get in her pants...
.. yes, I will ..
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Apocalypse666 wrote:
No the point was prove it to be fact.
I believe there is no god because common sense dictates there isn't one.
So if it is a fact then prove it.
Saying you have to believe is no different than Santa Clause.
So prove that god is real and is a factual being.
If he is real then you can prove it.
If he is not then you cannot prove it.
looks like your proving there is a devil. if there wasent then why do you have a picture of him on your ID screen???

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River Tam wrote:
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What do you do when people call you names?
Name a special right that homosexuals are asking for?
Great Q's Tam!

I've tried thinking of a "special right" that LGBT folks promote, but in honesty, I can't think of any.

Well, maybe one - the "T" folks - its get a little wishy-washy when you think about non-unisex restrooms.

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I hope you know that you will never get in her pants...
He can borrow my pants anytime he wants to. A little secret RR. He's my friend. "What?", you may ask. A homosexual and a heterosexual being friends? Should we call the thought police? A priest? A tailor?

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I am on the side of working to correct a flaw in our society, all of them, and bullying is one, so is the correlation to causation fallacy you are using.
Kitten, can you accept that you are probably coming at this from being in a profession that works in the field of expertise that you are talking about, while I am just a person who does not believe in a god, does not like bullying, does not think parents should teach their kids to hit bullies, because violence doesn't cure violence?

My first wife's major at university to get her science degree, I think, was child and family studies, or something along that line, but mine wasn't, though my hobby since soon after graduating was to do with psychology, and I went through meany years of wanting to read about the current psychology of the times.

However, in replying to your comment in the previous to this post, about a professional without children often knows more about kids than do parents, yes that is true, and that is what my wife and I thought, and we had great plans for how we were going to raise our kids differently than we had been raised based on popular ideas of our time, but when the children came, reality took over and some of the ideals and plans got lost.

It is one thing to know the hows and whys, but to actually be with your own child 24/7, dealing with their various problems on a daily basis, plus having your own personal issues to deal with too, you often find out that theory and fact don't always mesh.

Disclaimer: That fact and theory comment does not apply when we are talking evolution.
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People like me say that your "Lord" is a mythological creature like the Kraken.
A woman asked a guy in South America who his God was and he said, "We were dropped off here by a spaceship!" Amen!!!!!!!!!!Finally, a human with a brain and not brainwashed..........christian s!

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Polygamy has always been what?
Straight? Because the male goes inside the female...(just like plumbing parts)
I explained what I see. You're gay. I assume you know those kind of gays. What's the deal?
The norm.

I'm not a plumber. Females go inside females too. Males go inside males. We just use different tools.

All gays know each other, right?

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River Tam wrote:
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He can borrow my pants anytime he wants to. A little secret RR. He's my friend. "What?", you may ask. A homosexual and a heterosexual being friends? Should we call the thought police? A priest? A tailor?
.. the vice squad ??..

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Clementia wrote:
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Hey, I thought we in England spoke nicer English! You american and canadian people are just jealous of the sexy british accent!!
My wife and I were this evening watching a British movie, The Orgasm Diaries, one with about 75% of it full nudity, and in a couple scenes neither my wife nor I could understand a word that the characters said, yet they were talking British English.

Actually I am impressed by a lot of the British accents too, as some of them sound very dignified. It tends, for me at least, to make one think the person is more intelligent than they might be. We had friends around our age when we first moved from the farm, and maintained some contact until my wife and I split in 2000, who had come to Canada from England after they married, and though I think both my wife and I were better educated than either, at least he was rather intimidating because his manner of speaking and his accent kind of carried an air of authority about it.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I hope you know that you will never get in her pants...
You callin' me fat?
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River Tam wrote:
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He can borrow my pants anytime he wants to. A little secret RR. He's my friend. "What?", you may ask. A homosexual and a heterosexual being friends? Should we call the thought police? A priest? A tailor?
NO! Call the LORD.

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I agree that cultural norms generally come into play. Although we would have to know the standard morality of such a culture. Let's even shrink it down to a more controlled environment because that is the only way to do it where there could be any semblance of a guarantee that someone wouldn't use the fact that a child does not think there is anything wrong with adult nudity from strangers to abuse them. Say for instance a small nudist colony of moral people. Then I would say fine, the actual human form in and of itself is not a bad thing and in a controlled environment if he was/she was raised to still respect their bodies and others than I would have no problem...in a controlled environment
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I agree, what if 'moral' is not always universal and just because we do not embrace it as aq society does not necessarily make it wrong. But in a society where pedophiles prey on children I cannot think of a single possible reason to allow an environment in which children think it is ok for strangers to be naked around them.
Yes the shame or stigma attached to our bodies play a role. It is socially engrained in most of us. I certainly couldn't walk around nude. And there may be an argument that is wrong and we should be proud of our bodies. That is fine for adults. My issue isn't that people want to walk around naked. My issue is that children are too impressionable and it leaves them more vulnerable in a dangerous society filled with immoral people. Although honestly even if you took that out of the equation, which there is no way to do, I still see no reason children should see adult strangers naked. But with the risk involved opening them up to being taken advantage of by a predator, it just outweighs any possible reward, if there even is one. IMO anyway
(T) Peace
But to make the children fully knowledgeable and comfortable about the human body might still be better in the long run than bringing them up to think the human body is sinful, and then try to switch to a normal sex life and normal life in general once they find a spouse.

Yes, we have to protect our kids from dangerous people but that applies whether kids see nude bodies or not.

My first wife was traumatized by a perfectly harmless exhibitionist who exposed himself to her when she was taking a shortcut to school, and then reported it and had to go through police questioning, her mother freaking out, etc., but if she had been raised that the naked body was just that, a naked body, she might have laughed at the man and walked on. He didn't touch or attack her; he got his jollies from showing his penis to young girls.

The man was a poor pathetic misfit, but her reaction and the impact it had on her, likely for the rest of her life, was greatly exacerbated by how she had been indoctrinated about sex.

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Skombolis wrote:
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I agree the more we give into stooping to that level, especially when it is becomming the normal level of discourse in general, the easier it is to keep it up. Like you I strive for something better but for me anyway I find I can get knocked off stride easier than I would like. I am not exactly famous for my patience!
I try to keep my 'relationships' with people on Topix based on my individual interactions with them and not what goes on between them and otghers. We are alla dults. And like you said, the exception is when someone crosses thresholds that perception-wise there just is little way to repair the damage. For me bigotry, violence towards women, or just going way, way, way over the line in either attacking the faith or using it as a pretense to cover their own personal attacks.
Basically common-sense stuff. Unless someone shows me they are just an unbelievable scumbag that I didn't realize at first, then I am willinbg toi talk to anyone as well regardless of "sides"
(T) Peace
Actually though it hurts to have one's opinion questioned, because one feels denigrated, putting down a faith such as Christianity to a true believer should really not affect them at all. If they strongly believe what they claim, why would what some 'ignorant' atheist says about the Bible or God affect them so much, that they feel they have to defend God? Does this God need the help of a mere mortal, assuming God exists?

I am amazed at the threats of killing going on in the world over people making jokes about Mohammad, Jesus, God/Allah. Good grief, no one can hurt some super being, should it actually exist, so why get all out of sorts about it? If one respects God, then one can decide for him/her self that he/she will not say derogatory things about God, but what others say, should for them at the very most only make them question the intelligence of the other person; not feel that an attack using very ungodly methods is in order.

That was not directed at you.

Having said that I still think that one doesn't insult one's host if visiting in their home by making derogatory comments about their God, because what you are really doing in that situation is saying your host is stupid to believe.

When someone here gets angry and starts accusing others of blaspheming God, what they are actually doing is saying they are offended because someone questions the fact that they are a believer. They refuse to take ownership of their own feelings but pass it off as protecting God.

That to me just diminishes the image of God.

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TRYING wrote:
<quoted text> NO! Call the LORD.
I did. I got his voice mail. He said he was in West "by god" Virginia shootin some deer. Call back later.

What's up TRYING?

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Skombolis wrote:
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Sure I don't deny that we are culturally biased
And if we were talking about just adults then this is a whole different conversation
But there simply is np justification for letting a child think it is ok for an adult stranger to be naked in front of him. How much easier does that make it for a pedophile to inititate the abusing process? Why do you think most of them start either by getting a kid drunk somewhere, watching porn, or using an environment like a lockerroom where it is more acceptable to be undressed? We start making everywhere acceptable and we better be prepared for what comes next because we will own part of that blame. We have a responsibility as parents, as adults, as humans, as citizens, and as a society to keep our young ones safe.
(T) Peace
As with everything, like not taking rides with strangers who may just be kind in offering to drive them home, or they might be a predator, we have to alert our children, for their protection about what they should or shouldn't do when you are not there to protect them, but if they are raised around other naked people including many who are strangers to them, and there is never any danger in that particular setting, but they are told to never let anyone coax them to do something like that in a setting where they might be alone, and they do not at all have any knowledge of that person, then I can't see that treating the body as all being a good thing rather than one part with exactly the same DNA as their hands and face is bad.

I highly suspect that a lot of mental illnesses today comes from bad parenting, when the child is raised to fear things that should not be fearful, and thus when they are in certain situations they become excessively fearful to the point of becoming mentally ill.

I don't necessarily think, though that children need to sit in an audience and watch their parents engaged in sexual intercourse and other sex acts right in front of them. The act of sex, is something personal between two people, in most cases, unless several are all in agreement with some form of group sex, which unfortunately I never got invited to participate in, so keeping the sex act from the children should not be considered wrong, but on the other hand, if they accidentally walk in on their parents during a sex act, the parents should not traumatize them for life by over-reacting, but rather dealing with it in a protective and kind manner.
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River Tam wrote:
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I did. I got his voice mail. He said he was in West "by god" Virginia shootin some deer. Call back later.
What's up TRYING?
Damn, girl, your humor is wicked. Stay warped.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Good grief.
Somebody check me on this - I think that's every single Fundie logic flaw in just one post!
Spinoza was incorrect ?

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