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if ...IF it were in your power to remove all religion from America, would you do it?
Yes, but not by force - by persuasive argument and example. I'd like to see people turning away from religion by choice until it disappeared. Same with smoking.

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The argument against that view when I was a church goer is that a church is place for sinners, not saints, so if you are a believer staying away is just defeating the whole purpose of it, which I do now endorse you doing. The more that stay away the quicker will be the demise of this outdated mythology, which is indeed corrupt, but not likely for the reasons that you are thinking.
Odd way to see church....

I've always seen church as a place of learning, not a place to repent.

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United in faith wrote:
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this sounds very reasonable and fair.
when i am making a point and i do so based on my faith, i will always begin the statement with, "I" believe.....
I don't wish to argue either. It is a waste of time.
you are who you are, and i respect your right to be who you choose to be.
i don't have to agree with you, but thats ok, becauae you don't have to agree with me either.
it should simply be an exchange of ideas.
and left at that.
I hope you have a nice day boots.
so let today be a fresh start for us both.
Thank you, I just commented on my offer above, as I had not yet scrolled down to this response. I will make every effort to adhere to what I have stated, In fact because I am forgetful and may forget particular points, I am going to now copy off that list I made, with your response, so I can check myself from time to time, that I am still on track.

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>You are SUCH a liar. You twist your OWN words as stupidly as you twist the words of your bible.
And you are an IDIOT. NO ONE in this country is BOUND by ANY religious rule or law- that is a CHOICE.
No- America is NOT a CHRISTIAN nation! Why have you not addressed the many times I've posted to you that IF what makes a nation a CHRISTIAN nation is that the majority of people are Christian, then why wouldn't it make the USA a WHITE nation since the majority of people are WHITE?
You don't respond because that is where even YOU can see that your convoluted logic falls apart at the seams or else you don't have the BALLS to proclaim the USA is a WHITE nation despite having the BALLS to proclaim the the USA is a CHRISTIAN nation.
LAST time: THE USA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION. THE USA IS NOT A WHITE NATION. THE USA IS NOT AN ENGLISH-SPEAKING NATION.
That the MAJORITY of people are Christian, white and English-speaking does NOT define this nation as Christian, white or English-speaking.
Speaking of "English-speaking"- you can't even master that- I should "desk" with it???
Okay- you go "chair with it"- the FACT that the USA is a SECULAR nation comprised of PEOPLE who have the CONSTITUTIONAL right to practice ANY religion they CHOOSE to and which they CHOOSE to become WILLINGLY bound to or not- as they see fit for themselves as INDIVIDUALS.
Hand YOURSELF a tissue, you silly little SNOT nose.
Apparently you don't read very well I said:

"The people of this nation are not legally bound to any religious law, no. BUT, most of us are."

Of course by choice, dumb ass.

And "snot nose"?? Are you 12?

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Apparently you don't read very well I said:
"The people of this nation are not legally bound to any religious law, no. BUT, most of us are."
Of course by choice, dumb ass.
And "snot nose"?? Are you 12?
I read it- and you're WRONG.

Those who feel bound to religious law do so WILLINGLY and as such, that totally contradicts your MORONIC notion that the USA is a Christian nation.

It's not.

Sorry for your luck.

No- I'm not 12, and yes, you ARE a SNOT nose.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Sometimes all one can do is laugh.
It's HILARIOUS!!! Sadly pathetic, but hilarious just the same.

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I'll be happy to provide you with the County clerk website here and I will even give you the defendant's names in a PM, if you like.......
My story is 100% TRUE- but unlike YOU, I am not a liar.
My story is 100% true, too.

I don't lie, the truth is far too much fun.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Overreacted?! That scumbag cost me over $10K! It took me almost a year to recover. I had a few month old son to care for & a wife. I had no savings. I had crappy insurance - all that I could afford. I was only making $8/hr then.
What did he lose? A little shit in his pants and 2 whole weeks in county.
I'd say that I under reacted if anything.
F_ck your assumptions, OCB. You make me sick with that shit.
Tough SH*T what it cost YOU. You beat a guy VERY violently- YOU bragged about that here, RR and you have NO remorse or guilt of sense of shame or wrongdoing??

You're a total REPROBATE. You make ME sick with ALL of your sh*t, and that's ALL you talk- SH*T- which given that you ARE a PIECE of sh*t, actually makes sense.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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My story is 100% true, too.
I don't lie, the truth is far too much fun.
Whatever, you're more of a CRIMINAL than the guy you so horribly- and GLEEFULLY!- beat the crap out of.

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Here is what you said:
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<quoted text>BTW, you're responding to a post in which I FACTUALLY stated that the USA is NOT a Christian nation. It is also not a JEWISH nation. It is also not a MUSLIM nation. It is also not a BUDDHIST nation.
YOU responded- YOUR post #566233:
"It's actually all of those. It's also an atheist nation.
The fact that the Congress is secular does NOT mean the nation is.
I don't expect a liberal, government loving lunatic to understand..."
So if the USA is a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation and as YOU said, also an Atheist nation, why do you keep MORONICALLY insisting that the USA is a CHRISTIAN nation?
The REALITY is that it is a nation comprised of ALL religions as well as being comprised of those with NO religion.
THAT is NOT a CHRISTIAN nation, RR or at the VERY least, NOT a Christian nation to the exclusion of all other religions or of no religion at all.
Well excuse me.....

The USA is *mostly* a Christian nation.

Better?

(you anal retentive weasel)

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Apparently you don't read very well I said:
"The people of this nation are not legally bound to any religious law, no. BUT, most of us are."
Of course by choice, dumb ass.
And "snot nose"?? Are you 12?
And do you even know WHY that is by choice, you DUMB ass?

Uh....that would be because the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A SECULAR NATION.

Got it now??

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>And charges SHOULD have been filed. What you did was WRONG- I don't care if the guy had stolen a whole fleet of trucks.
And if YOU weren't the coward YOU are, you would have turned yourself in.
You broke the law, you took the law into your own hands, you used excessive force and violence to do so and you did so with PLEASURE.
You are SICK.
Wouldn't you say that the cost to repair my truck & to replace my tools was punishment enough?

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Yes, but not by force - by persuasive argument and example. I'd like to see people turning away from religion by choice until it disappeared. Same with smoking.
Ain't gonna happen, buckwheat.

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I read it- and you're WRONG.
Those who feel bound to religious law do so WILLINGLY and as such, that totally contradicts your MORONIC notion that the USA is a Christian nation.
It's not.
Sorry for your luck.
No- I'm not 12, and yes, you ARE a SNOT nose.
How am I wrong?!

The FACT that 85% of America is religious is PROOF that 85% of America is bound by religious rules.

How'd your math skills?

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Tough SH*T what it cost YOU. You beat a guy VERY violently- YOU bragged about that here, RR and you have NO remorse or guilt of sense of shame or wrongdoing??
You're a total REPROBATE. You make ME sick with ALL of your sh*t, and that's ALL you talk- SH*T- which given that you ARE a PIECE of sh*t, actually makes sense.
That's right. Tough shit on the victim, me.

Ya, lets send the poor little drug abusing car thief to some medical facility to "help him".

You liberals make me sick. I hope the same happens to you, then MAYBE you'll understand.

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>And do you even know WHY that is by choice, you DUMB ass?
Uh....that would be because the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A SECULAR NATION.
Got it now??
ugh you're pathetic.

The UNITED STATES GOVERMENT IS SECULAR.

You REALLY don't see the difference between a nation & a nation's government do you?

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OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever, you're more of a CRIMINAL than the guy you so horribly- and GLEEFULLY!- beat the crap out of.
Damn right! And I'd do it again!

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Well excuse me.....
The USA is *mostly* a Christian nation.
Better?
(you anal retentive weasel)
No- not better because AGAIN- you IDIOT!- the majority of people being Christian does NOT make this a CHRISTIAN nation, you DOLT!

I'm not anal retentive nor am I a weasel, but no doubt any day now you'll bring up for the UMPTEENTH time any number of issues which aptly demonstrate that not only are YOU anal-retentive, your head is up that stupid arse of yours.

And AGAIN- you are too much of a WEASEL to admit that your STUPID and sorry excuse for logic comes apart at the seams when you do not address that the USA is also not classified as a WHITE nation just because it is "mostly" white.

You are too much of an insecure egotist to admit that you are WRONG.

"5 Reasons America Is Not -- And Has Never Been -- a Christian Nation

The myth that America is a "Christian nation" is not only untrue, but promotes the pernicious idea that non-Christians are second-class citizens.

1. The Text of the Constitution Does Not Say the United States Is a Christian Nation

2. The Founders’ Political Beliefs Would Not Have Led Them to Support the Christian-Nation Idea

3. The Key Founders Were Not Conservative Christians and Likely Would Not Have Supported an Officially Christian Nation

4. Shortly After the Constitution Was Ratified, Conservative Ministers Attacked It Because It Lacked References to Christianity

5. During the Post-Civil War Period, a Band of Politically Powerful Pastors Tried Repeatedly to Amend the U.S. Constitution to Add References to Jesus Christ and Christianity

http://www.alternet.org/story/155985/5_reason...

"Is America a Christian nation, as many conservatives claim it is? One American doesn’t think so. In his press conference on April 6 in Turkey, President Obama explained:“One of the great strengths of the United States is … we have a very large Christian population — we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.”

Predictably, Obama’s remarks have enraged conservative talking heads. But Obama’s observations have ample precedent in American diplomacy and constitutional thought. The most striking is the Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1797. Article 11 states:“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility [sic], of Mussulmen [Muslims]; and, as the said States never have entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

Conservatives who claim that the U.S. is a “Christian nation” sometimes dismiss the Treaty of Tripoli because it was authored by the U.S. diplomat Joel Barlow, an Enlightenment freethinker. Well, then, how about the tenth president, John Tyler, in an 1843 letter:“The United States have adventured upon a great and noble experiment, which is believed to have been hazarded in the absence of all previous precedent — that of total separation of Church and State. No religious establishment by law exists among us. The conscience is left free from all restraint and each is permitted to worship his Maker after his own judgment. The offices of the Government are open alike to all."

http://www.salon.com/2009/04/14/christian_nat...




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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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ugh you're pathetic.
The UNITED STATES GOVERMENT IS SECULAR.
You REALLY don't see the difference between a nation & a nation's government do you?
And while religion has a large presence in this country, that does NOT make its CITIZENS Christian; therefore, we are NOT a Christian nation.

Don't worry, RR- your dismissive attitude toward any and all who are not Christian has been duly noted here.

I KNOW you think that those who are not Christian are not as "American" as YOU are and you can deny that all you like- your posts SCREAM that without you having to actually SAY that.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Damn right! And I'd do it again!
You're disgusting. I hope that should someday someone beats the crap out of you, they do so as GLEEFULLY as you did to someone else.

You have shown your penchant for sadism here just as you have shown your penchant for fascism and anarchy.

You are an ANTI-AMERICAN pile of walking garbage.

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