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“let's do this thang!”

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#566035 Nov 26, 2012
Anon wrote:
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Sure, one could do that. Only problem is, their friends will show them the damaging text the next day.
'just say "no"'!

all y'all try & bully me but you don't hear me cry'n about it, do ya now?;)

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#566036 Nov 26, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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do you ever apologize for your anger & hate? oh, i forgot that atheists are born perfect and can do no wrong.
we'll soon see about all that;)
Sure I do bro , I do have feelings for my fellowmen.
Especially those who impress me with wit or charm , likable people you know. I don't hate you. We just see things differently.
Just so you know I may be atheist , but don't mistake that for pacifist. I am not close to perfection , though I do strive for it. We have common ground that overrules religious thought.

As a fellow American you are my brother. Maybe the redheaded stepbrother but brother...lol
But as a fellow American I would have your back covered and walk point for you.

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Since: Mar 09

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#566037 Nov 26, 2012
boooots wrote:
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It is only wrong, because our society has been conditioned for so long to think it is. I suspect that kids, who are raised in nudist homes and attend nudist colonies, are no more apt to do anything wrong than those who are taught that sex is dirty. In fact I suspect they would become more uninterested in the naked body, since that would be all they ever saw.
Yes, once the hormones kicked in at a certain age they would still want to put those bodies together, but that would happen anyway, and they don't have that horrible negative body image that has psychologically impaired many people.
As a whole, especially those of us raised in very strict religious homes, many have a very warped opinion about things to do with the body. It is a huge step to go from hearing about that horrible young girl in the neighborhood who got knocked up, embarrassing her family and having to be sent away to have her child so as to not embarrass them further, and then when another girl gets married all the old ladies are so excited when she get pregnant.
Both girls did the very same act, and in many cases the one who married before pregnancy did have premarital sex too, but didn't get pregnant, but the one who got pregnant in some cases totally destroyed her life (I saw a girl who was a few years ahead of me in school whose sister was in my class all the way through, actually do that. She was a very nice girl too, but she got pregnant young, and her life was certainly far below the average of the others in the community for the rest of her life - just because of how society reacts).
I am not saying there aren't dangers going to other extremes. No disrespect to any women in here but some of the most promiscuous girls and young women I knew came from ultra-strict households and over-bearing parents. The need to rebel is almost a genetic trait of all children and when subjugated for so long they explode at their first opportunity for independence. So yes, parents need to find a middle-ground. They shouldn't be trying to be their kid's buddy either. Kids have lots of friends or the chance to anyway. They one get one set of parents

So if parents want to be more open with their kids about sex and sexuality and the human body and teach them to respect its beauty and themselves and it works better than ruling with an iron first then more power to them.

But again, this is about living in a society where not everybody plays by the same rules. And I can't think of a single good reason that we should get a child thinking it is ok for an adult stranger to be naked around him. But I can think of many reasons why he shouldn't think it is ok

(T) Peace

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#566038 Nov 26, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
I agree that cultural norms generally come into play. Although we would have to know the standard morality of such a culture. Let's even shrink it down to a more controlled environment because that is the only way to do it where there could be any semblance of a guarantee that someone wouldn't use the fact that a child does not think there is anything wrong with adult nudity from strangers to abuse them. Say for instance a small nudist colony of moral people. Then I would say fine, the actual human form in and of itself is not a bad thing and in a controlled environment if he was/she was raised to still respect their bodies and others than I would have no problem...in a controlled environment
If an adult can handle public nudity, there's no reason a child couldn't also. It would depend on how they were raised/educated. Any possible damage that could be done to a child just by seeing the nude human form begins with conditioning them to have a negative reaction to it. That just naturally happens in a society like ours. The taboo here actually facilitates our economy. Sex sells. Our culture for the last 60 years or so has been heavily influenced by this concept. If nudity was no longer taboo, advertising would have to change to adapt. We'd have to rely less on skin and more on explicit sexual suggestion.
Skombolis wrote:
I agree, what if 'moral' is not always universal and just because we do not embrace it as aq society does not necessarily make it wrong. But in a society where pedophiles prey on children I cannot think of a single possible reason to allow an environment in which children think it is ok for strangers to be naked around them.
Pedophilia is more of a problem in cultures where there are many taboos and sexual repression. Due to the nature of American culture, we produce pedophiles and rapists. Repression breeds obsession. You need look no farther than the Catholic Priesthood to see that in action.
Skombolis wrote:
Yes the shame or stigma attached to our bodies play a role. It is socially engrained in most of us. I certainly couldn't walk around nude. And there may be an argument that is wrong and we should be proud of our bodies. That is fine for adults. My issue isn't that people want to walk around naked. My issue is that children are too impressionable and it leaves them more vulnerable in a dangerous society filled with immoral people. Although honestly even if you took that out of the equation, which there is no way to do, I still see no reason children should see adult strangers naked. But with the risk involved opening them up to being taken advantage of by a predator, it just outweighs any possible reward, if there even is one. IMO anyway
(T) Peace
Children are vulnerable when they aren't well supervised. It doesn't matter if they are naked to a predator. They are looking for easy prey, not naked prey. They'll get them naked after they catch them, so that's not a big deal from their perspective. Teaching children how to deal with strangers, naked or not, is important. There's no replacement for good parenting. There's also a better way to deal with predators where you don't need to limit peoples freedoms.

Muslim women are forced to where black sacks over their whole bodies because men can't control the urge to rape them. We see this as stupid and oppressive. Our cultural values may seem stupid and oppressive to naturalists.

If I see a dude walking around naked next to a school, I would surely call the police and follow the guy until the police arrested him. In a nudist society, that dude is just waiting for his kid to get out of school so he can walk the kid home safely.

“let's do this thang!”

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#566039 Nov 26, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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Sure you have.
It's often labeled as "Christianity".
it ain't my fault that you'd rather have a one-eyed trouser snake shoved down your throat than some good old fashioned common sense....

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#566040 Nov 26, 2012
I said "where" when I really meant "wear".

Where my black sack at?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#566041 Nov 26, 2012
boooots wrote:
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Easier said than done, when the majority of kids spend a great deal of their time on the net. Yes if they are being bullied on Facebook or Youtube or wherever they can choose to not go there, but a child's curiosity will take them there anyway, even when the results are negative.
sssuuuurree! i can see that the 4th reich are using any excuse to take away freedoms of speech & all the dumb dumb lib hand-wringers are buying it hook, line & sinker.....
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#566042 Nov 26, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Quit posting porn.
You see what you want to see, I guess... even if it really isn't there.

Since: Jul 12

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#566043 Nov 26, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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This is when you lose your mind on the topic. No, it does not, they just find a new target ... if you're lucky. Bullies are the way they are because of their parents, my father set me straight, that's what it took, and that's all it took ... a four hour lecture of why he was disappointed in my behavior.
I mean, the way you all are talking about bullies it's as if you know nothing about the psychology or reasoning for their behavior at all. You are applying excessively simplistic logic to all this, and it's so far off the mark it's no wonder bullies are still causing so many problems.
True, when it comes to some punk bully at a school I really don't think about (or care) his feelings or psychological problems. All I think about is MY sons upbringing and well being.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

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#566044 Nov 26, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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it ain't my fault that you'd rather have a one-eyed trouser snake shoved down your throat than some good old fashioned common sense....
Your Jesus is showing.

Well done.

Maybe you should pray.

“Michin yeoja”

Since: Oct 10

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#566045 Nov 26, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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LMAO! What's that? A cyber punch to the cyber nose?
Gimme a break.
You've obviously never been a teen girl. They can be absolutely ruthless.

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#566046 Nov 26, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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that's my dawg!
you gotta know that i come off as a playa only to tick off my adversaries who try to tell me what i can & can't do all the time, right?;)
I'm not going to talk-block anybody.

Since: Sep 11

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#566047 Nov 26, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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That wasn't what he wrote.
He was talking about Christians who claim the Bible is the word of God but make claims about God that is not supported by the Bible.
Got give him that one. I think that we all find that pretty offensive.
I know that's not exactly what he said, but he was talking about the world being under "grace law" as opposed to old testament law - one of the differences between the two being that god doesn't directly kill people now.

“Michin yeoja”

Since: Oct 10

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#566048 Nov 26, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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ssssooo in this humanist world-order, we only need be 'tolerant' of the opinions which resemble the collective?!
this is bigotry and fascism at the 4th reich level and should be frightening to you, even if you wish the freedom of speech for Christians were removed!
Who said I was a humanist? Who said I want the freedom of speech for christians removed?

WTF are you babbling about?

Since: Mar 09

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#566049 Nov 26, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Pedophilia is more of a problem in cultures where there are many taboos and sexual repression. Due to the nature of American culture, we produce pedophiles and rapists. Repression breeds obsession. You need look no farther than the Catholic Priesthood to see that in action.
That is simply not true. The percentage of priests accused of rape is 1.8%. The average percentage of pedophiles in general population is 4%
Pedophile

4%
http://www.registeredoffenderslist.org/what-i...

1.8
http://tinyurl.com/3xqcnq

Not to mention pedophiles seek out the church for two reasons. 1) Because being an adult not in an adult sexual relationship raises no red flags. and 2) It gives them better opportunities to abuse. Pedophiles are opportunistic abusers. It is why the number one profession with the highest number of pedophiles is teachers. It has nothing to do with repression. Someone is a pedophile long, long before adulthood. Science believes pedophiles are either born that way or abused into becoming that way for the vast majority of cases. In some cases there simply is no answer but that predilection is established well before an adult
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Children are vulnerable when they aren't well supervised. It doesn't matter if they are naked to a predator. They are looking for easy prey, not naked prey. They'll get them naked after they catch them, so that's not a big deal from their perspective.
But there is no way a culture where children think it is ok for a stranger to be naked around them would not aid a pedophiles efforts. Many pedophiles try to confuse their victim into being a "willing" participant.

There just is no reason for it. What possible good outweighs the potential dangers in your mind? Especially when wahtever good could be taught in other ways?
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#566050 Nov 26, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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Your name doesn't rhyme if that is what you were going for genius!
And as for your claim, you really shouldn't just go around regurgitating anti-Christian indoctrination as itmakes you look silly. Especially when you couldn't be more wrong
Matthew 18:20
"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell
I get my name from a good song. Check it out...

Matthew says Gehenna, not hell. The word Hel/hell did not exist untill 700+ years after the bible was written. Facts are your enemy.

Since: Jul 12

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#566051 Nov 26, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. they? Do you toss all gays and lesbians into one bushel? Call me all the names you want, won't bother me. Kinda use to it ..
.. protest? Isn't that the American way to institute change? Are you un-American ??..
.. don't want to get into the equal rights debate because we'll vehemently disagree, besides, this thread is not about homosexuality ..
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.. works for me ..
Fair 'nuff!

Queerio :)

Since: Mar 09

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#566052 Nov 26, 2012
Edit Tide:

I realized I didn't finish my though on priests. The point is that if anything because pedophiles would seek out a church to hide in plain sight and have opportunities to abuse, it is surprising to me the numbers are not a lot higher. But we do have to balance it with what has been covered up. However at the same time this is charged, not convicted so it is pretty inclusive. Whether the percentage points might dip or be a little higher the bottom line is basically it is the same percentage as the population as a whole. Someone is a pedophile long before coming a priest. Just like they are a pedophile long before coming a teacher, who are at the highest rate of abuse.

For every scumbag molester priest, there are thousands who live good lives or try to at least as hard as most. The reason there is such a generalization about priests is because it is a big news item, especially because of the coverups. As it should be. But if someone picks up a paper and read a priest molested a kid 3-4 times in their entire life it is still human nature to think, man what is going on over there even though even more kids are being molested by teachers and psychiatrists and in the general population as a whole.

Being a priest does not make someone any more likely to be a pedophile. The systematic cover-ups unfortunately have led to a climate of abuse. A safer haven for pedophiles if you will but they were pedophiles before they got there. And if they weren't abusing there they would simply be trying to be abusing kids elsewhere.

(T) Peace

“Michin yeoja”

Since: Oct 10

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#566053 Nov 26, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If they didn't care, they wouldn't get all huffy puffy when they're called names & made fun of. They wouldn't "protest" and ask for special rights.
What do you do when people call you names?

Name a special right that homosexuals are asking for?

Since: Jul 12

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#566054 Nov 26, 2012
boooots wrote:
Your son could have also got sent to a reform school. You have badly advised your son. Yes, don't let someone kill you, if you can prevent it, but for gawd sakes don't make things worse by using violence against violence. Surely the actions of the USA in the last several decades has shown that on an adult level.
The kid who picked up that stone, needed to be reported to the authorities as that is not acceptable behavior; neither is your son hitting him with the same stone and breaking his nose. What if, as could have happened, your son had killed the kid? Would the law have said the bully deserved it?
In that case I would think if it went beyond those two kids and you, you should have been contacted by the authorities and even had Children's Services contact you as a possible case of the child being in a home not conducive to good parenting.
You think I'm a bad parent because I teach my sons to stand up for themselves? lol

If that rock had been one inch lower, it would've likely broken my sons nose. If it had been three inches lower, it might've popped a few of his teeth. Do you think the bully cared? Nope, he threw the rock at my sons face intentionally.

I was threatened with a lawsuit. I was contacted by CPS. But nothing ever came if it, except that the bully stopped bullying and he & my sin became pretty good friends. After that incident, all of a sudden the bullies friends became my sons friends. What do ya know.....

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