“Ditat Deus”

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#564881 Nov 21, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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really, where does it delineate which portions of the bible are chronological and which descriptive
Genesis 1
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 2
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
it seems that god made animals to keep man company.....
You've got yourself convinced. There's nothing I can do for you.

“Ditat Deus”

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#564882 Nov 21, 2012
scambuster wrote:
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Please list all that agree with young earth creation theory... Outside of the religious community of course.
Exactly... Karma's post was retarded.

“Ditat Deus”

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#564883 Nov 21, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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really that's your reply.....geesh that is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. to say you're a moron is an insult to morons everywhere{{{{SNIP, SNIP, SNIP}}}}
When have I said that I'm a Mormon?

I'll wait.

“Ditat Deus”

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#564884 Nov 21, 2012
scambuster wrote:
Religion already gets special treatment from the US government, is that not enough for them?
It does? Do tell.

“Ditat Deus”

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#564885 Nov 21, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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really that's your reply.....geesh that is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. to say you're a moron is an insult to morons everywhere.....
the point which obviously went way over your head, is that there is no archeological evidence written at the time Jesus supposedly existed that he did in fact exist.....
using the Bible to prove the existence of Jesus is circular logic at best
whereas there are numerous scientists, independent of each other, numerous studies, and plenty of observable phenomena/facts that support the big bang theory
--- I take back the "Mormon" post. I read too fast, I see you wrote "moron" (close enough though lol)

You asked us to give you names of eyewitnesses outside of the Bible, regarding a biblical account... It's the ONLY historical record of that acoount.

Using "studies" to prove science is also a circular argument. Scientist A agrees with scientist B... Who knew? Maybe they both wanna keep their jobs.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#564887 Nov 21, 2012
Lies Buster wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't, the last witch who tried that spell had it backfire and she had it boomerang and have her healthy 3 year old child die of a brain aneurysm. Not good.
Too late.

I remain unconcerned.

When was that, by the way?

Since: Jul 10

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#564888 Nov 21, 2012
United in faith wrote:
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1. how can there be no EVIDENCE supporting a deity?
CAN YOU take credit for the creation of the universe, and
intelligent LIFE?
2. since you can not take credit for how it came to be, since you
can't re-create anything from scratch, since you can't explain
away miracles, prophecy, artifacts that support that prophecy
Christ and His many eyewitnesses, and the personal experiences
of billions of people through out history, then you have no
reason to say with any certainity there is no God.
you don't know.
3. thats right you don't, but if you were wise you would.
UIF, there has only been a few billion total people ever lived throughout history. Not even one of those several billion people has ever confirmed that a god exists, so that point is totally, 100% false. If, in fact, any of them, even one, had absolutely confirmed that a god exists, then we wouldn't be having this thread.

You have used that same argument for there being a God; that if a God was proved to not exist, we wouldn't have this debate. Well God has not been proved not to exist, and likely such a proof is impossible, and always will be. However, it has been proved without an element of doubt that many things that you believe, taken from the Bible, are not true. That also is true, and cannot be changed.

You have been using the argument that humans cannot take credit for the creation of the universe, for well over 3 years now. Who gave you the thought that any human has ever taken credit for the creation of the universe? Who put the idea into your head that making such an argument is a proof of a god?

It isn't a proof of a god. It doesn't even come into the same ballpark as a proof of a god. What humans cannot do has absolutely nothing to do with a proof of a god.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#564889 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly... Karma's post was retarded.
]Scambuster posted to YOU asking you to list all who agree with your young earth creation nonsense other than the religious community, so what does your response to scambuster have to do with the question he asked of you and what does Karma's post- and/or the quality of it- have to do with the question put forth to you directly by scambuster?

Scambuster is proving (not that any additional proof is needed) that it is YOU who posts retarded crap.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#564890 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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--- I take back the "Mormon" post. I read too fast, I see you wrote "moron" (close enough though lol)
You asked us to give you names of eyewitnesses outside of the Bible, regarding a biblical account... It's the ONLY historical record of that acoount.
Using "studies" to prove science is also a circular argument. Scientist A agrees with scientist B... Who knew? Maybe they both wanna keep their jobs.
You are a bigger fool than you've already proven to be if you think all scientists agree with each other. They don't. And that is a BIG part of the reason why the scientific field is a very competitive field.

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#564891 Nov 21, 2012
scambuster wrote:
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As a former christian, church deacon and youth minister, I can vouch for this. Some of the elders of the church, and certainly some of those in high leadership positions demand respect based on their status as a christian and their position in the church. Even when it's not deserved.
Religion already gets special treatment from the US government, is that not enough for them?
I recall when the minister came to visit at a home, even in the home of a family that seldom, if ever, darkened the door of a church, it was understood that everyone was to be on their best behavior while he was there, because he was a "man of God" my words for the title as I forget exactly how that was explained to us, being nearly 60 years ago.

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#564892 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Exactly... Karma's post was retarded.
RR, I have to place your age at considerably less than mine, unless you have just picked up the expression "was retarded" because many others use it online, as being a lot less than mine. It seems that the slang usage of something being "retarded" is a relatively recent addition to the English vocabulary, which didn't exist when I was young; not in that usage.

Just a comment; one cannot help how old they are.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#564893 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The whole purpose of that treaty was to show the Muslim nations that America’s Christianity was different than that of Europe. We had no intention of fighting a war solely based upon religion.
The bottom line is that when you read the entire article in context it shows that the intention of the line was not to say that the nation was not founded upon Christian principles. I think any honest historian would agree with that, even if they don't like Christianity.
That treaty was signed by John Adams, sho said: "I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature.”
You don't learn, do you?

John Adams also said the following:

“This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it”

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion”

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" --- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." -letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries." -1803 letter objecting use of gov. land for churches

"... Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."

Get it through your thick skull or move to a theocracy.

The USA is NOT a Christian nation.

The USA is NOT a white nation.

The USA has NO official language.

The USA was founded as a SECULAR nation.

The USA is still a SECULAR nation.

The USA will forever remain a SECULAR nation.

If you are so anti-American that you can't respect or even acknowledge the founding tenets of this great nation and what those tenets stand for, GET THE HELL OUT.

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Chicago, IL

#564894 Nov 21, 2012
Boners!

Since: Nov 12

Chicago, IL

#564895 Nov 21, 2012
Boobs!

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Chicago, IL

#564896 Nov 21, 2012
Va-jay-jays!

Since: Nov 12

Chicago, IL

#564898 Nov 21, 2012
All were made from stardust ;)

“Ditat Deus”

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#564899 Nov 21, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>]Scambuster posted to YOU asking you to list all who agree with your young earth creation nonsense other than the religious community, so what does your response to scambuster have to do with the question he asked of you and what does Karma's post- and/or the quality of it- have to do with the question put forth to you directly by scambuster?
Scambuster is proving (not that any additional proof is needed) that it is YOU who posts retarded crap.
So I take it that you read my post out of context. Nice.

“Jesus is Love”

Since: Jul 12

Hutchinson, MN

#564900 Nov 21, 2012
boooots wrote:
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UIF, there has only been a few billion total people ever lived throughout history. Not even one of those several billion people has ever confirmed that a god exists, so that point is totally, 100% false. If, in fact, any of them, even one, had absolutely confirmed that a god exists, then we wouldn't be having this thread.
You have used that same argument for there being a God; that if a God was proved to not exist, we wouldn't have this debate. Well God has not been proved not to exist, and likely such a proof is impossible, and always will be. However, it has been proved without an element of doubt that many things that you believe, taken from the Bible, are not true. That also is true, and cannot be changed.
You have been using the argument that humans cannot take credit for the creation of the universe, for well over 3 years now. Who gave you the thought that any human has ever taken credit for the creation of the universe? Who put the idea into your head that making such an argument is a proof of a god?
It isn't a proof of a god. It doesn't even come into the same ballpark as a proof of a god. What humans cannot do has absolutely nothing to do with a proof of a god.
There is a God. Your same old excuses to ease your mind of it simply are failing miserably.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#564901 Nov 21, 2012
boooots wrote:
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RR, I have to place your age at considerably less than mine, unless you have just picked up the expression "was retarded" because many others use it online, as being a lot less than mine. It seems that the slang usage of something being "retarded" is a relatively recent addition to the English vocabulary, which didn't exist when I was young; not in that usage.
Just a comment; one cannot help how old they are.
You never called something "rad" when you were younger?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#564902 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So I take it that you read my post out of context. Nice.
You take it wrong, just as you take SO much wrong.

I suppose you think scambuster took your post out of context as well.

In the meantime, I see you haven't addressed what scambuster asked you.

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