“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#564863 Nov 21, 2012
United in faith wrote:
<quoted text>
NO. Good CHRISTIANS do NOT kill.
Bad christians do.

They're still christians.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

UK

#564864 Nov 21, 2012
Now can we please no longer do any burden shifting thank you.
sorry.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#564865 Nov 21, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
Theist
Only recently, since embracing faith as advised. I have faith in Dreamtime Snake. I guess than makes me a theist now, although it has had little effect on my posting.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#564866 Nov 21, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
A whopper of a post, amigo!
Gracias.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#564867 Nov 21, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. you'd like Utah, but, then again, maybe not. Most of its citizens are legal, white, law-abiding Christians. You like that, right ??..
No, that's not right. I didn't say that.
.. but, there's a drawback - their numbers are growing exponentially. These Mormons don't just have families, they breed like rabbits. You don't like that, right ??..
I don't agree with that either. I DO think that huge families are not necessary.
.. how do you feel about Hispanic Catholics? Like Mormons, breeding is a must, big families, lotsa children. That's part of their religion where, like Mormonism, contraceptives are discouraged ..[/QUOTE

In my experience, most Hispanics are Catholic. As the Mormons, they breed too much.

[QUOTE].. we all know there's strength in numbers. The more offspring Catholics and Mormons churn out, the more faithful servants for Christ. Muslim Imams also understand this concept and command adherents to spawn more warriors for Allah ..


Interesting... But not all follow the footsteps of their parents.
.. so, what's the big difference between Hispanic Catholics, Muslims and white Mormons ??..
There's a lot of differences, but for me it's that I don't live around a shitload of Muslims or Mormons. I live around a shitload of Hispanic Catholics that breed like rabbits. For example, when my folks were kids in SoCal, their numbers in schools were roughly 25%. When I was a kid in SoCal their numbers in schools were roughly 50%. Today in SoCal, their numbers in schools is roughly 80%. They breed to much.
.. by chance, are you a racist ??..
Not by chance, no. It's very deliberate.

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#564868 Nov 21, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> The nuance of language and turn of phrase eludes you at all times.
You must dread street signs.
Only this one:

www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050410/news_1n...

Beware! Running illegals! Don't crash into them or they'll sue!

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#564869 Nov 21, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
there are plenty of contradictions in the bible, far too many to list.
However, there are numerous websites devoted to debunking the bible.
https://www.google.com/search...
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradic...
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_me...
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/bible-...
here are some
Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.
Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.
Oh sure. Because evilbible MUST be telling the truth... pfft

Don't be ignorant. Genesis 1:1–2:3 provides us with a chronological account of what God did on each of the days during the creation week. Genesis 2:4–25 zooms in on day six and shows some of the events of that day.

Get it?

Genesis 1 is a chronological account.

Genesis 2 is a descriptive account.

NOT contradictory.

“Ditat Deus”

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#564870 Nov 21, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlearnable?
Yeah. You're ok.
Unlearnable - it's a Scrabble word :)

unlearnable (not comparable)
adjective

1. Not able to be learned.

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unlearnable

I should really start charging you...

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#564871 Nov 21, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
there is plenty of evidence of the Big Bang, especially the cosmic background radiation

please list all those eyewitnesses, outside the bible of course
Please list all that agree with your big bang thingy, outside of the scientific community of course.

Since: Oct 07

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#564872 Nov 21, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Disrespectful? That's rich coming from a Christian.
"It seems religion can dish it out okay but it can’t take it: like a street thug who calls the police when his victims fight back." - Pat Condell
Your religion gets no respect because it offers none. Where is the Christian respect for atheism? Why do you expect more respect back than you offer? More from Condell:
"Purely on the evidence religion itself provides in such regular abundance, there's every reason to actively disrespect it to the point of outright abuse. And quite frankly, the fact that religion gets so little abuse compared to what it really deserves, I can only attribute to the unbelievable tolerance, restraint, and plain good manners of atheists and secularists everywhere.
"So, if you are a religious person, and if you're thinking of demanding more respect for your beliefs, please try to bear in mind that you and your religion are already getting way more respect than you’ve have ever deserved. Your faith is a joke. Your god is a joke. He's so absurd he's an embarrassment even to people who don't believe in him."
As a former christian, church deacon and youth minister, I can vouch for this. Some of the elders of the church, and certainly some of those in high leadership positions demand respect based on their status as a christian and their position in the church. Even when it's not deserved.

Religion already gets special treatment from the US government, is that not enough for them?

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#564873 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
lol... You DO know that the treaty was superseded, less than a decade later, by another 'Treaty of Peace and Amity,' signed in Tripoli June 4, 1805, in which that clause is omitted, right?
Ya, I didn't think so.
No, actually I didn't know this, but I will be reading that soon!

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#564874 Nov 21, 2012
Benjamin Frankly wrote:
Now can we please no longer do any burden shifting thank you.
sorry.
They will still try to do it. The only way to win is to not play the game.

Since: Jul 10

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#564875 Nov 21, 2012
TheUndying132 wrote:
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It would be nice to give some specifics. You are a logical fail, you can't rebut someone by saying "your wrong but I don't have examples why. " prove me wrong
I said because others have given those examples on here before, ad nausseum, and I am not about to take the time to go back and dig them all up again. It is, however, widely reported by Christians and non-Christians of the many discrepancies and I have even heard ministers preach about the differences of accounts of the same event, as reported by two different writers of the NT. Still I am not going to fall into "you refuse to give the proofs, so they don't exist". You know there are many also, claiming you don't is just arguing for the sake of argument.

The bottom line is that nothing has proved the truth of the Bible - that is fact that still has never been refuted. The Bible and all the stories related to the bible are accepted 100% on faith, or not.

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#564876 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Please list all that agree with your big bang thingy, outside of the scientific community of course.
Please list all that agree with young earth creation theory... Outside of the religious community of course.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#564877 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh sure. Because evilbible MUST be telling the truth... pfft
Don't be ignorant. Genesis 1:1–2:3 provides us with a chronological account of what God did on each of the days during the creation week. Genesis 2:4–25 zooms in on day six and shows some of the events of that day.
Get it?
Genesis 1 is a chronological account.
Genesis 2 is a descriptive account.
NOT contradictory.
really, where does it delineate which portions of the bible are chronological and which descriptive

Genesis 1

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 2

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

it seems that god made animals to keep man company.....

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#564878 Nov 21, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
I choose to define myself rather as a secular humanist, with an agnostic point of view towards a deity. I have no idea if the universe is the product of a god, the evidence is insufficient. However, I distance myself from any and all religious teachings, doctrines and dogma.
I agree with all of that. But a person with no god can rightly be called an atheist.

The word atheist says little about what a person does believe. If she is also a rational skeptic and compassionate, that might be secular humanism. But other atheists might prefer astrology or Stalinism to humanism. These are godless worldviews as well, and thus atheistic isms. But unlike secular humanism, they are neither rational nor compassionate.
Double Fine wrote:
And this is where this thread (meaning people like you, Aero, Hiding, Catcher, Scaritual etc) has been of immense value to me. When I first dropped Christianity, I didn't know what to define myself as. Now, I am much more secure.
Thank you.

These atheist threads on Topix are a great place to be. The Internet and the WWW are amazing phenomena that have already enhanced my life in many, many ways.

I love Topix for the fellowship, the education, and the chance to practice composing arguments and articulating them. I've come to know a lot of fun and interesting people here, learned a lot of facts, and learned to write better and think more clearly here as well.

And that's just Topix.

Email is terrific. I don't use the post office or other mail delivery services more than twice a year. I get Spanish words every day from three different websites. And I telephone and receive calls much less frequently, too.

Without Facebook, I wouldn't really know my young relatives in the States, and because I emigrated, I would fall out of touch with both sides of the family. Nor would they know much about me or my life. They

Google is unbelievable. If you had the greatest libraries in the history of the world on wither side of your house - say, the Library of Congress and the Library at Alexandria - and you and I both tried to research a question, I'd have my answer on Google before you pulled out of your driveway. And if the question was from pop culture, like about movies, you'd never get an answer.

Like you, I'm very grateful for this opportunity and experience.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#564879 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Please list all that agree with your big bang thingy, outside of the scientific community of course.
really that's your reply.....geesh that is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. to say you're a moron is an insult to morons everywhere.....

the point which obviously went way over your head, is that there is no archeological evidence written at the time Jesus supposedly existed that he did in fact exist.....

using the Bible to prove the existence of Jesus is circular logic at best

whereas there are numerous scientists, independent of each other, numerous studies, and plenty of observable phenomena/facts that support the big bang theory

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#564880 Nov 21, 2012
scambuster wrote:
<quoted text>
No, actually I didn't know this, but I will be reading that soon!
The whole purpose of that treaty was to show the Muslim nations that America’s Christianity was different than that of Europe. We had no intention of fighting a war solely based upon religion.

The bottom line is that when you read the entire article in context it shows that the intention of the line was not to say that the nation was not founded upon Christian principles. I think any honest historian would agree with that, even if they don't like Christianity.

That treaty was signed by John Adams, sho said: "I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature.”

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Since: Jul 12

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#564881 Nov 21, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
really, where does it delineate which portions of the bible are chronological and which descriptive
Genesis 1
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 2
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
it seems that god made animals to keep man company.....
You've got yourself convinced. There's nothing I can do for you.

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#564882 Nov 21, 2012
scambuster wrote:
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Please list all that agree with young earth creation theory... Outside of the religious community of course.
Exactly... Karma's post was retarded.

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