Prove there's a god.

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#564948 Nov 21, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Too dignified for a troll.
Really? Ralph can mean vomit.

Since: Sep 11

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#564949 Nov 21, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Really? Ralph can mean vomit.
True. Then we could make clever posts about Raplh raplhing ralph all over the forum.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#564950 Nov 21, 2012
See you guys! Happy Thanksgiving.

Since: Jul 09

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#564951 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Exactly... Karma's post was retarded.
she quoted the bible

many agree, with you

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#564952 Nov 21, 2012
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>All of the founding fathers were deeply religious men. Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, nearly half (24) held seminary or Bible school degrees. Most were Deists with a few being Christian. The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a big departure from the idea that the power to rule over other people comes from God. They understood the pros and cons of religious influence in government and didn't want to have government stifle or control churches or vice versa.
You are mixed up here Al. The sole reason for separation of church and state was to prevent a church from gaining complete authority over government. The main reason for this and the fear of this was to escape the church of England who held control of Americans from across the sea. The church of England controlled everything before independence was won.

So by decree it was written into the constitution that there could be no state appointed religion or religion appointed state.
Some foolish Americans want to return to a theocracy , but it is because they do not understand the reasons why we wrote the possibility out.

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#564953 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh please.... Churches have been tax exempt for thousands of years. They were exempt even in the Roman Empire.
Don't be jealous.
America should tax the churches fairly, and pay off it's national debt

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#564954 Nov 21, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
See you guys! Happy Thanksgiving.
Likewise.

Since: Jul 10

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#564955 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh please.... Churches have been tax exempt for thousands of years. They were exempt even in the Roman Empire.
Don't be jealous.
However now with 20% or less of tax payers actually involved with churches, should they be exempt? Having been on church board of executives, I know that most churches today would not survive without the help they get, because, especially in cities, the taxes on such large properties would be higher than some of them take in in a year.

But why should a church have tax exemptions in a country that has separation of church and state? Essentially by giving them tax exemptions that is involving the government with the church.

Also many churches don't take in more than the cost of maintaining their own property and employees, so that means they are being counted as a charitable organization though they might not necessarily be contributing to charity.

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#564956 Nov 21, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Some were not "deeply" religious I would say.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and all the other good people here.
In my case a month or so late, as we Canadians get a jump start on Thanksgiving by having it in October, but thank you anyway.:)

Actually I don't think my wife and I did anything particularly different on the actual day than any other day. Since being off work, and also since giving up church attendance, days seem to all run together for me, and often particular "special" days go by and are not even noticed.

Perhaps for others like me, we can be thankful just any time.

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#564957 Nov 21, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You are mixed up here Al. The sole reason for separation of church and state was to prevent a church from gaining complete authority over government. The main reason for this and the fear of this was to escape the church of England who held control of Americans from across the sea. The church of England controlled everything before independence was won.
So by decree it was written into the constitution that there could be no state appointed religion or religion appointed state.
Some foolish Americans want to return to a theocracy , but it is because they do not understand the reasons why we wrote the possibility out.
isn't that what I tried to say or did I muck it up?
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#564958 Nov 21, 2012
henry wrote:
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Of course it is a fact: the bible is full of fakes and lies too!
if that were true, atheists would love it because it would be just like them. well, really the bible would have to also be full of jealousy, arrogance, and selfishness and then it would be just like them. lol.

Atheists, you hypocrites, you clean the outside of the cup while the inside is full of bile.
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#564959 Nov 21, 2012
henry wrote:
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Educated people mostly know that there is no such thing like god at all!
No, you've got it wrong. Arrogant and selfish people do. However, one should not be arrogant and selfish, so they don't know much.

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#564960 Nov 21, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You are mixed up here Al. The sole reason for separation of church and state was to prevent a church from gaining complete authority over government. The main reason for this and the fear of this was to escape the church of England who held control of Americans from across the sea. The church of England controlled everything before independence was won.
So by decree it was written into the constitution that there could be no state appointed religion or religion appointed state.
Some foolish Americans want to return to a theocracy , but it is because they do not understand the reasons why we wrote the possibility out.
You are a FREAKSHOW. There still is NO separation from church and state. The Catholic Church controls every government. It will take the UN to VOTE...to end this control and BAN religion. Religion has caused ALL of our problems since the begining of time. You are stupid ...to think otherwise....

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#564961 Nov 21, 2012
boooots wrote:
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In my case a month or so late, as we Canadians get a jump start on Thanksgiving by having it in October, but thank you anyway.:)
Actually I don't think my wife and I did anything particularly different on the actual day than any other day. Since being off work, and also since giving up church attendance, days seem to all run together for me, and often particular "special" days go by and are not even noticed.
Perhaps for others like me, we can be thankful just any time.
You have no faith....nothing to hope or live for. You and the wife are hopeless FREAKSHOWS. Try to find the right truth/Religion.....God is a God of order..look at the universe...are you simply blind?? He has 1 way, an organized way for people to know and serve Him. Your thinking is to live and die. WRONG. You might as well be a radical Islamist...
atheists dont have a clue

Kalamazoo, MI

#564962 Nov 21, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Oopps, sorry I thought you were someone else who actually had something to input to this thread. My mistake and forget the bit about thinking you had something good to offer – you don’t.
Ooh, listen to the judger of thread input!!! It's almighty ChristineM.
Arrogance is a virtue to people like you. lol

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#564963 Nov 21, 2012
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
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if that were true, atheists would love it because it would be just like them. well, really the bible would have to also be full of jealousy, arrogance, and selfishness and then it would be just like them. lol.
Atheists, you hypocrites, you clean the outside of the cup while the inside is full of bile.
But it is full of jealousy, arrogance and selfishness.

And that's just the deity.
bibul

Saltville, VA

#564964 Nov 21, 2012
if you went to hell wouldn't you just get used to it over time???

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#564965 Nov 21, 2012
TJ Monk wrote:
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You are a FREAKSHOW. There still is NO separation from church and state. The Catholic Church controls every government. It will take the UN to VOTE...to end this control and BAN religion. Religion has caused ALL of our problems since the begining of time. You are stupid ...to think otherwise....
((The Catholic Church controls every government.))

I can see you're another conspiracy nut.
Religion has been a problem , but only since civilazation.
But it hasn't cause ALL problems , as no one thing could encompass all that.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#564966 Nov 21, 2012
civilization even.

Since: Nov 12

Jodhpur, India

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