Prove there's a god.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#564504 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
But you still haven't answered as to why you called the heavens (the universe) "space".
Yes I did. http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Did you agree with that author?
What do you think? I mocked him in the process of debunking his claim that his bible was prescient using two other creation myths. Did that elude you? It seems that it has.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#564505 Nov 20, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>This has already been explained to you. Do we have "in Dracula we trust" printed on our money? Do we have to swear on the vampire holy book before testifying? Are we surrounded by the trappings on vampire culture every day? If we deny a belief in dracula, do we risk being ostracized by the community? Do people let their kids die because they believe the holy vampire will save them, and that medical treatment is against the first vampire's will?
Need I go on, or do you get the point?
Good post.

Since: Sep 11

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#564506 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
See? You lump us all together.
"Because ONE does it, they must all do it".........
You people sicken me with your idiotic attitudes & assumptive behavior. No wonder why you can't find God, you already have all your answers and "facts"...
What? Where did you get that from? I meant "seriously" as in - the crap that just results posts proves you assertion wrong. You assertion was "no christian I know and no christian on here threatens people with hell." That is wrong.

And anyways, hell is in and of itself a threat. It is a place of eternal suffering, where nonbelievers go. Threat. "Believe this, or else."

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#564507 Nov 20, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The younger generations will carry the torch.
still sad!

where will you and your immediate family be when this is allegedly taking place?

if nothing is real that you can't prove with your senses; how do you know that there will be a hypothetical torch to carry in a world where you no longer exist? c'mon, you're contradiciting yourself....

Since: Sep 11

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#564508 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No dude, the scawy word to you atheists is "believe". You think you don't have any. You think that word only means religious belief.
And yes, I DO understand that you believe there is no god.
Either you believe it, or you know it.
I know you don't know it, so it's your belief.
Deal with it.
You are astoundingly stupid. Either that, or just really, really stubborn.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#564509 Nov 20, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Want to "live" in America? I was talking about Asian Americans who were BORN here. You know, those of Asian ancestry but who were BORN in the USA and are 100% US Citizens.
No....you want people to learn what you perceive as American RELIGION- not traditions and values.
I don't see any Asian American infringing Buddha on anyone- why are Christians so HELLbent on wanting your Jesus infringed on EVERYONE to the point of you being one of many Christians who wants your god and your Jesus to be a part of public school curriculum while excluding the god of other religions- religions that are practiced by many in this country who are 100% American and who were born here.
Speaking of "stupid shit", that is exactly what you are, RR and a REALLY stupid sh*t at that.
I didn't say ANYTHING about religion, did I? Nope. I said they should conform to the American way. IE; speak English, learn our culture, learn American heritage, fly an American flag, play loud music IN ENGLISH, eat hot dogs, etc etc etc.

None of that has ANYTHING to do with religion. Stop projecting.

Since: Sep 11

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#564510 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
If I'm frustrating you then leave. No one's forcing you to stay.
"Believing there is not a god"
"Not believing in a god"
You can not read. I have never said that atheists don't believe in God. Ever. I've always said that they believe there is no God.
Either way, it's a f_ckin belief.
OMG. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. I am trying to tell you - there are two types of atheism. You keep insisting that there is only one - a belief that there is no god. I am telling you that there is a second type - a lack of belief in a god. Again, this is not a hard distinction. For you, apparently, it is the most subtle difference in the world, but really, this isn't that hard.

One more time. A lack of belief in a god does not equal a belief in the lack of a god. Get it?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#564511 Nov 20, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not lying. I'm joking. I thought that was obvious.
Although, a year and a half ago, I had to block you because I found your pms offensive. All you did was insist your religion was the only correct one, that everyone else was wrong or worshiping demons and that we all had to be like you.
i kinda remember breaking up with you, but if you need to see it the other way around; you go gurl/dude;)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#564512 Nov 20, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. is the fundamentalist adult BS Detector inoperable or is it just stuck in the 'off' position?..
I'm not sure how to distinguish between the two in believers. With apostates, the BS Detector obviously never died.

How could it ever be a good idea to override or deny valid reasoning?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#564513 Nov 20, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not lying. I'm joking. I thought that was obvious.
Although, a year and a half ago, I had to block you because I found your pms offensive. All you did was insist your religion was the only correct one, that everyone else was wrong or worshiping demons and that we all had to be like you.
BTW - yesterday i thought PM stood for like in the PM versus the AM. today it dawned on me that it means private message.

sorry for any confusion:)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#564514 Nov 20, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>You MORON. An Asian American born here experiences the same culture as YOU do, and there is NO set American lifestyle, you buffoon.
{STOP}
I just had to stop you there, before your rantings became too ridiculous.

You think America has no lifestyle? No culture? So you ARE anti-American...

Read up!

The United States of America is an ethnically and racially diverse country as a result of large-scale immigration from many different countries throughout its history.

American culture includes both conservative and liberal elements, scientific and religious competitiveness, political structures, risk taking and free expression, materialist and moral elements.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_United_S...

...

The American way of life...purports to adhere to principles of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_way

..

You don't like what America is? Get out.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#564515 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
lol
That's just some nutcase that believes in witches & wizards...
Which distinguishes her from Satan-fearing fundies how, exactly?

And she's a Christian, killing or causing killing in the name of her Christianity.
Which was what you asked.

(That took me less than a minute. There's more. Wanna see it?)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#564516 Nov 20, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You have told your kids about hell! What are you missing here? If you are a christian, and you believe in hell, and you tell your kids about it, the implicit message is that they will burn there for eternity if they don't believe the same thing as you do.
STFU already.

Why do you assume so much? I HAVE NOT told my kids about hell...

DO.....YOU.....UN.....DER..... STAND....?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#564517 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
*my* specific way?!?
No, I said the American way....
Dumb ass
You mean the tons of immigrants that came to this land to live? Each one unique, from Italian to Spanish, German and Jewish?

No, it's your specific way that you want everyone to live, you just pretend your way is the "right" way to make yourself feel better about being a total moron.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#564518 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
awwww She went from one religion to another, then found yours.
How sweet.
Sorry, stupid assertions like that don't annoy me - wht would they? The stupidity's yours.

Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Since: Sep 11

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#564519 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I just had to stop you there, before your rantings became too ridiculous.
You think America has no lifestyle? No culture? So you ARE anti-American...
Read up!
The United States of America is an ethnically and racially diverse country as a result of large-scale immigration from many different countries throughout its history.
American culture includes both conservative and liberal elements, scientific and religious competitiveness, political structures, risk taking and free expression, materialist and moral elements.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_United_S...
...
The American way of life...purports to adhere to principles of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_way
..
You don't like what America is? Get out.
No SET American lifestyle - as in, we have a range of lifestyles and cultures and not a singular culture.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#564520 Nov 20, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. this is your belief and you're certainly entitled to it ..
.. other than tenure and unions, yes, there are other reasons. You've probably not been in a classroom for awhile, right ??..
.. schools are now giant factories, we mass produce education. Children are not robots, they vary greatly in their needs and abilities and often come from less than perfect homes ..
.. when one teacher has 25-30 students, the individual needs of a child cannot be addressed. That's a fact. Instead of hiring more teachers, smart kids are tutoring dumb kids. But of course, hiring more teachers costs money and taxpayers are not willing to make that investment ..
.. the reasons are complex and to simply say, "Schools are no longer blessed by God," is stinking thinking ..
i'm familiar with public schools as i still have a child in one & my wife has worked for several years in one as well.

yours are legitimate concerns, but not the big picture.

the big picture is 'why should our schools, government, homes or ANYTHING work when we've rejected the ENGINEER???'

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#564521 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not lying. You haven't learned the difference between God & god.
Or you do know the difference but refuse to acknowledge it.
You've yet to realize that there is no difference.

Just that you call your god "God".

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#564522 Nov 20, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
what good would a rebuttal do, you've already made up your mind. You, in your mind, are in a higher truth. You have the direct word of god, so nothing else matters, nothing else can be true. All others who don't believe in your god are wrong. No matter what the facts say, what the evidence points to...it is wrong.
But I will have a go at it. The trouble with out school system started with the "No Child Left Behind" BS, given to us by that evangelical friendly administration of George "Dumbya" Bush. I am an engineer with a Masters degree. A few years back I was visiting home and decide to help my 7th grade nephew with his math homework. I couldn't make sense of it. The book was all over the place. His mother, a teacher explain to me that in the 1st half of the year they teach the kids to pass the English test the second the math. Kids aren't learning logic and the ability to think for themselves.
I remember learning to
count
addition/subtraction
multiplication tables (by rote in 3rd grade)
division
fractions
algebra (great for logic
geometry (great for reasoning, logic and thinking with its theorems and proofs)
trig
calculus
math followed a natural progression and thought kids to think, reason and use logic.
that's all gone now.
there aren't as many required and elective classes like
anthropology
in-depth history (American & World)
sociology
political science
Literature (American & World)
philosophy
school budgets are being starved and its just the minimal basics
I don't have any kids, but would gladly pay more in taxes if it went to our school systems
throwing more money & effort into the tower of babel project didn't help it any and nor will pumping more resources into our sodoms & gomorrahs....

Since: Sep 11

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#564523 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
STFU already.
Why do you assume so much? I HAVE NOT told my kids about hell...
DO.....YOU.....UN.....DER..... STAND....?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I've told my kids about hell. But I don't threaten them with it so they're scared into being Christian.
You said that yesterday. I would advise against lying on a public form.

So, I wasn't making an assumption. The reason I think you told your kids about hell is because you told me so, and because most christians (aside from the ones who don't believe in hell) tell their kids about it.

Do you understand?

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