Prove there's a god.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#559590 Nov 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
She hasn't directly answered, but I think she means that being poor is a disease...
so is being fat...
So I guess that if you're rich, your not 'diseased'.....
wtf?
.. no, that's not what I posted ..

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#559592 Nov 6, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. again, fair enough. Let's change it ..
.. do you think someone born in Harlem or a Mexican Barrio chooses to be poor? If so, we must debate in metaphysical terms ..
Sounds like an interesting debate. Hello Happy Lesbo, how have you been?

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#559593 Nov 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The "depper problem" is the inability to quit frikkin eatin. That's all. Nobody gets fat on accident or suddenly. They do it to themselves.
.. obviously, you've never watched someone dying from morbid obesity but unable to stop feeding the empty hole in their stomach ..

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#559594 Nov 6, 2012
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Yankee Echo Papa.

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#559595 Nov 6, 2012
Mirror Mirror two Faced wrote:
<quoted text>You just don'tsee and don't want to. He said urges for other women. That is called lusting after other women and coveting, which is a sin. The problem is that folks like you want to be perfect, and none of us are. You don't want to see sin as sin, when it is just that sin.
You use the attraction, dance with it, but the disorderly, perverse, unhealthy, and selfish attractions are homosexuality, pedophilia, bisexuality, fornication and bestiality. None of which can be exercised in marriage. God gave us urges for our spouse, not the misdirection towards animals, prostitute, children and members of the same sex.
1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication let every man have his own wife; and let every woman have her own husband.
What changed with Lev. 20:13. The commandment to kill all caught in a homosexual act? Not the sin, still an abomination.
GRACE, and the prospect of salvation.
Before, the folks caught in homosexual acts were inprisoned and waited to be executed.
Now, the prison is the homosexuality, Christ is the key to unlock the prison and set them free. So, all gays are locked in prison, a life sentence and no execution, Christ can give them a pardon through repentance and salvation and redeem their souls. What happened to the death sentence of Lev. 20:13? Did God change? Nope. Sorry.
The death and excution is simply stayed, if they receive the pardon then the crime is expunged from the record. If not, on the day of judgment, the execution is carried out and it is an eternal judgment.
Now, what do you see?
The sin
The crime
The punishment
-or-
the salvation.
The Old Testament Laws were never changed, if so, then Christ would not have had to die and pay price for the sins under the law. Christ fulfilled the law, not abolished and we are to obey the commandments.
If you love your enemy, then you are to pull him out of the ocean of sin which he is drowning in and present to him the free gift of salvation, forgiveness and repentance.
Breaking the stronghold of lust
Lust manifests itself in many ways. Most church leaders would acknowledge that lust is one of the greatest hindrances facing the church today. Many struggle with it themselves.
Whether it is the lure of pornography via the web or television. The constant battling with bad thoughts, the over indulgence in eating and drinking or the unserviceable desire to live beyond your means of income. Many of us struggle with lust in one way or another.
1. Observe yourself
the first step in breaking the stronghold of lust is acknowledging that you have a problem. Read James 1: 21 - 26. As human beings created in the image of God, we have the unique ability to observe ourselves. This is something no other creature of God can do. You can actually stand back, as it were, and observe your own thoughts, words and actions.
Look at yourself in the mirror of the Word. What do you see? Take time to observe your thoughts, actions and speech. Be honest with yourself. Judge yourself. This is the only way to avoid God's judgment on you.
2. Ask for the anointing of God
Only the power of God can break the hold of lust. Once you have honestly observed yourself, ask God to show you the right and wrong things in your life. It is possible to know right from wrong. Read Hebrews 5: 12-14.
The natural mind may see nothing wrong with lustful thoughts. But the spirit of God supported with the word of God will tell you better. See the life of Cain for more on evil thoughts Sincerely ask God to break the power of evil thoughts. The stronghold behind lust is our thought life. Ask God to give you a deeper love for His Word and will. Let the love of God dictate your thought life and not the fleeting pleasures of lust
http://www.wordlibrary.co.uk/article.php...
Yikes!!

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#559597 Nov 6, 2012
Mirror Mirror two Faced wrote:
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The natural mind may see nothing wrong with lustful thoughts. But the spirit of God supported with the word of God will tell you better. See the life of Cain for more on evil thoughts Sincerely ask God to break the power of evil thoughts. The stronghold behind lust is our thought life. Ask God to give you a deeper love for His Word and will. Let the love of God dictate your thought life and not the fleeting pleasures of lust
http://www.wordlibrary.co.uk/article.php...
oh please, sin, sin, sin. Evil thoughts. How about the evil thought of hating someone for their sexual orientation?

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#559599 Nov 6, 2012
_Olive_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like an interesting debate. Hello Happy Lesbo, how have you been?
.. hi ya Olive! My only hope is they don't shoot the messenger ..

.. I know, I know, hoping for the impossible ..

.. how ya been ??..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559600 Nov 6, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
He cares about saving his soul from torture. To do that, he'll hate whatever he thinks his god hates.
scambuster wrote:
Seems like ass kissing behavior to me.
Yes, but I understand it, and so do you. If the world is as the Christians say, it's every soul for itself. Sure, you can witness, and raise a few kids into the church - maybe. But in the end, it's each soul for itself. You can only be responsible for your own. Nothing else that a soul did on earth will be remembered after a billion billion trillion years in heaven, just that you got there.

Christianity imposes this selfish attitude.

It fosters it with a culture of immaturity and stunted development, one that fosters obedience and submission over autonomy and self actualization. If fosters dependence, vulnerability, inferiority, and fear - all childlike states. It's based on a fairy tail sustained by wishing, hoping, and magical thinking. It features a 24/7 judgmental baby sitter who is also a harsh parent, offering rewards and spankings.

And the love of the god, as we just noted, is infantile. Mature love is done for the sake of the object of love, and is giving. Love of god is done from awe and dependence, and is self-serving. What can you give a god other than your affection - same as a baby.

We should all want that church to stop cranking out these people. Sorry, but we can do much, much better. We should be emphasizing integrity and compassion. That covers most of it. That would encompass virtues like loyalty, honesty, love, and justice. What else is there? Add courage, skepticism, maybe a few others that I've overlooked.

Yeah, kissing ass. But that's what being in a state of dependency does to you. Convince me that I have an immortal soul that I cannot escape, and that there exists a torture pit and a god willing to send me there if I don't kiss its ass, and I'm all lips, too, I suppose.

irtues such as those I already named - self-actualization and auonomy - and others: co
Orangelion

Wrexham, UK

#559603 Nov 6, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>Greed.
Greed is the result of what? Sin.

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#559604 Nov 6, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. hi ya Olive! My only hope is they don't shoot the messenger ..
.. I know, I know, hoping for the impossible ..
.. how ya been ??..
Why the messenger always gets "shot".... lol.

I've been good, nice to see you today.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559605 Nov 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Very good. People that are not trained or learned in Christianity 'know' all about it & can point out any & all 'faults'....
wow
You only need to know about Christians' behavior to understand Christianity. What else is there? The book? We don't care what it says, just how it and other influences shape you. I've got bad news: precious few of you are True Christians by your own ad hoc definition of Christian.

I'm sure you saw Scaritual's recent post on No True Christians. It says it all : http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

The six or so of you that would be left after all the people who didn't meet the bible model were whittled out would be what your bible describes, but not what's out there.

I don't need to study the Book of Hebrews or the Book of Acts to know how you would likely behave toward me, or how you would likely vote. What else matters to an outsider but real issues? Certainly nothing that could be learned from your bible. I won't get the Christian perspective on gay marriage from the words of Jesus.

So, yeah - I don't need a theological degree to tell you what your church is and does - how your church hurts you, and how it hurts me. No Psalm covers it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559608 Nov 6, 2012
anichole2012 wrote:
why do we have ppl that are mental is b/c thats part of the world we have to deal with untill we get to heaven ... so theres your answer thank you god and amen!!!!!!!
Thank you. That was a very compelling explanation.

I think I can trim it a little for you, though: "Goddidit!!!!!!!"

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559609 Nov 6, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Misquoting? I disagree. Don't just claim it. Demonstrate it. Show us what you posted beside the piece of it I reproduced, and show us how I misrepresented you.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Show you? I ain't your bitch, you go post diggin. You do misquote & tear up posts. You do it often. You're displaying intellectual dishonesty. Why?
FAIL.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#559611 Nov 6, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> I'd like to see the data supporting that, however...
This is where I get to say what the Christians say.
Then they weren't atheists.
Now that I've said that, does it seem like a suitable response?
I've worked with many inmates before. My dad retired from a CA state prison. I know what I'm talking about.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559613 Nov 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
heee-haaaw!!!
Well done. You are indeed a learning animal:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... [Let us bray]

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#559614 Nov 6, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. fair enough. While I can rebut many of your contentions, we're still left with one fact: the prisoner continues to "sin" whether he/she is a believer or non-believer. Hence, we must discover why an individual 'sins'(the disease)..
.. your animosity towards atheism must be discarded to discover the actual problem ..
The disease is sin? ok...

I think people, believers & non-believers, sin because it's the easy way out. I think Christians sin, but know they shouln't & know better, but do anyway. I think atheists sin with no regard to whether it's right or wrong.

I don't have animostiy towards atheists or atheism.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#559616 Nov 6, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. again, fair enough. Let's change it ..
.. do you think someone born in Harlem or a Mexican Barrio chooses to be poor? If so, we must debate in metaphysical terms ..
Mexico isn't America. Again, I don't care what they do, that's up to Mexicans.

A person born into anything does not choose to do so, they are born into it...

I should rephrase, maybe for you.

A person remains poor by choice. Some people born poor become very rich. Some people born poor stay poor. It's their choice.

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#559617 Nov 6, 2012
Mirror Mirror two Faced wrote:
<quoted text>The prisoner, like you sins. His crime is not the sin, his sin is his condition, just like yours. You gays always say your sin is singled out, but no, the prisoner has sinned a sin that puts him in jail. There is no crime in having gay sex, but the gay and prisoner have the same condition and only Christ can redeem them.
RR is right, the prisoner often puts on a front, when he is released he goes back to his sin which he does not wish to let go of. The person who chooses gay or pedophile sins is actually worse. His sentence is his own mind, he often does not go to jail. Yes, even the pedophile seldom goes. The rate of recidivism for both sins, homosexuality and pedophilia is higher than that for cocaine.
....your animosity and hate for God must be discarded for you to see the problem.
....Atheism is not the issue, rejection of God and responsibilty is what creates atheism, which is an anti position.
..Tell me what you believe not what you don't believe. If you tell me what you don't believe, you have told me nothing about you and what you think...
*eye-roll*

Being gay and being a prisoner are not the same thing.

Being gay is not a sin, you are too consumed with rules that you have ascribed as inflexible ones, your inflexibility has led to your ridiculously uncompromising position and lack of real sight.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#559618 Nov 6, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. obviously, you've never watched someone dying from morbid obesity but unable to stop feeding the empty hole in their stomach ..
boo-hoo... Yes I have seen it before. I feel no remorse for someone killing themselves for something they know they shouldn't be doing. There's no way a human can get to 300lbs (or more, even) without stuffing their fat face with food, food, and more food. And usually shit food. It's their own fault for being fat.

“unstoppable”

Since: Jul 11

Hell

#559619 Nov 6, 2012
Mirror Mirror two Faced wrote:
<quoted text>..don't worry, we Christians are messenger of God and from God...We expect to be "shot at", but we know that we are fully protected, armored and armed, and the shots bounce off and God's word is never returned void....Thanks for caring about us Christian messengers.
You are not a messenger from God, you are a messenger of your beliefs.

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