“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#559137 Nov 5, 2012
[QUOTE who="RiversideRedneck "You've twisted the words of the Bible into the meanings that you want. That's not how it works.[/QUOTE]

Of course that's how it works. You all do it. Aren't many if not most of you people calling the creation myths an allegory these days? That's biblical revisionism. You did that at your own peril in the days before science embarrassed your church and our bible.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#559138 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't see how. If that god exists, everybody is damned. For starters, it's capricious and it's word is no good.
Second, what business does a moral god have making monsters and torture pits? And why punish sin, or punish it by keeping the sinning soul alive forever to be punished to the benefit of nobody except a sadist? Which sadist?
Third, likes to be worshiped by souls with free will. A third of the angels failed that test already, and given infinite time, all admitted into heaven will eventually rebel. How long do you think you would hold out in heaven with free will? A billion years? A billion billion years? How about that a billion times over? Who can last that long? Maybe one person. Could he do it twice? Ten times? A billion times?
As Woody Allen noted, "Eternity is really long, especially near the end." Eventually, one day, everybody weakens, and like the rebellious angels, will be cast out of heaven into the fire forever without hope of parole.
We should all hope that no such creature exists.
Once again, great points.

People who don't even know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon think nothing of what they will do for an eternity.

Woody also said, "I'm not afraid of dying. I just don't want to be there when it happens."

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559139 Nov 5, 2012
River Tam wrote:
Have you heard this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =npjOSLCR2hEXX
Yes, I'd seen that sketch, but thanks for resurrecting it.

You know a lot about the pop culture of an older era for a nineteen year old. I can't say that I did when I was nineteen. Sure, I knew some of the history of the thirties and forties (I was born in the mid fifties), but not too much of the music, slang, movies - the pop culture. We knew their comic book heroes like Superman and Archie, and some old comedy acts like Laurel and Hardy and The Little Rascals. And most of their animated cartoons persisted, such as Popeye and Bugs Bunny.

But mostly, none of knew any big band music, or could name any Trevor Howard or Barbara Stanwyck movies - our parents' thing.

So, here's to your generation.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#559140 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2GOp00WR4XM/TMdszub... [image of sign]
Let's eat, grandma.

Let's eat grandma.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559141 Nov 5, 2012
Rose THeodors wrote:
<quoted text>You're right, sorry gay atheists, all gays are ultimately psychopathic. You are not alone. It is not your fault, it is not you, it is the gay condition. IN your evolution world, after 200,000 years, only 10 countries have same sex marriage, no one has voted for it, and only less than 90% of humans accept homosexual deviancy as a part of social construct.
There was a poster on these threads a few years back who told us that he was a gay vegetarian atheist. He posted that he got the most grief for being a vegetarian. According to him, people were more tolerant of his atheism and his sexuality than they were of his choice not to eat certain foods.

Is that even believable? He sure seemed sincere. And he ought to know.

How do you feel about him? Which part of him do you hate the most?

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#559142 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'd seen that sketch, but thanks for resurrecting it.
You know a lot about the pop culture of an older era for a nineteen year old. I can't say that I did when I was nineteen. Sure, I knew some of the history of the thirties and forties (I was born in the mid fifties), but not too much of the music, slang, movies - the pop culture. We knew their comic book heroes like Superman and Archie, and some old comedy acts like Laurel and Hardy and The Little Rascals. And most of their animated cartoons persisted, such as Popeye and Bugs Bunny.
But mostly, none of knew any big band music, or could name any Trevor Howard or Barbara Stanwyck movies - our parents' thing.
So, here's to your generation.
I'm not nearly normal :)

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Since: Oct 10

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#559144 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
(I was born in the mid fifties).
That's the problem. Why are all the smart people old?

I think god should let people live to be 900 or so. What?

Apparently, that didn't work out.

i guess I'll be on my own for a time ;)
Urvashi

Europe

#559145 Nov 5, 2012
God doesn't exist!!!!Watch 'Ancient Alien' on youtube.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#559146 Nov 5, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed!
In which case, we can all agree that the story of Genesis-Solomon- Moses were all allegories and not real. Correct?

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#559147 Nov 5, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
IANS gets a lot of "first sentences" wrong... I think that's why she misinterprets the Bible so badly.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't see how. If that god exists, everybody is damned. For starters, it's capricious and it's word is no good.
Second, what business does a moral god have making monsters and torture pits? And why punish sin, or punish it by keeping the sinning soul alive forever to be punished to the benefit of nobody except a sadist? Which sadist?
Third, likes to be worshiped by souls with free will. A third of the angels failed that test already, and given infinite time, all admitted into heaven will eventually rebel. How long do you think you would hold out in heaven with free will? A billion years? A billion billion years? How about that a billion times over? Who can last that long? Maybe one person. Could he do it twice? Ten times? A billion times?
As Woody Allen noted, "Eternity is really long, especially near the end." Eventually, one day, everybody weakens, and like the rebellious angels, will be cast out of heaven into the fire forever without hope of parole.
We should all hope that no such creature exists.
RIGHT ON

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Since: Jul 09

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#559148 Nov 5, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
All assumptions are not correct & all assertions are not correct when they don't correspond with the whole text.
To put it bluntly, your assumptions are incorrect. You've twisted the words of the Bible into the meanings that you want. That's not how it works.
the hypocrite prize

handsdown

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#559150 Nov 5, 2012
River Tam wrote:
Did I tell you about the time when I put the Wolf spider under my psychiatrist's coffee cup when he was searching for a book?
When he picked up the cup, the spider dropped in his lap. It was classic. He had to change his clothes. He blamed it on me but I just smiled.
Are you Wednesday Addams?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#559151 Nov 5, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, great points.
People who don't even know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon think nothing of what they will do for an eternity.
Woody also said, "I'm not afraid of dying. I just don't want to be there when it happens."
Thanks.

Here's my favorite scene from Woody Allen. It comes out of "Play It Again Sam."


Max - Woody Allen's character - who is newly single, is at an art museum with his best friend's wife in order to meet and maybe pick up some women. They see a young woman standing by herself gazing up at a huge abstract painting. Max decides to approach her with this ice breaker:

MAX : It's quite a lovely Jackson Pollock, isn't it?

YOUNG WOMAN : Yes, it is.

MAX : What does it say to you?

YOUNG WOMAN : It restates the negativeness of the universe. The hideous, lonely emptiness of existence. Nothingness. The predicament of man forced to live in a barren, godless eternity like a tiny flame, flickering in an immense void, with nothing but waste, horror and degradation forming a useless, bleak straight-jacket in a black, absurd cosmos.

MAX : What are you doing Saturday?

YOUNG WOMAN : Committing suicide.

MAX : What about Friday night?

(The look she gives him as she walks away is priceless)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#559152 Nov 5, 2012
River Tam wrote:
That's the problem. Why are all the smart people old? I think god should let people live to be 900 or so. What? Apparently, that didn't work out. i guess I'll be on my own for a time ;)
Thanks, I think.

:)

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#559153 Nov 5, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>In which case, we can all agree that the story of Genesis-Solomon- Moses were all allegories and not real. Correct?
Just because something is told in an allegorical way doesn't mean it's not true...

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#559154 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Why must it always be personal for you? Do I insult you or even discuss you personally? No. As personal as I get with you is to share dog data and tell you a joke.
I had called you on this behavior once or twice before, and forgiven you thereafter. But it's obviously a habit of thought with you, and won't end. So be it. I take it as permission to go further with you, and I will.
I see this as a character deficiency in you, one I see in most Christians. If one criticizes their god or religion, they swarm like hornets. I don't blame you beyond your capitulation to faith. This behavior is implicit in your church's instruction and example.
Your church builds small people. We can do better without it.
Now, do you want to behave civilly, or continue in this manner? I won't tolerate your insolence. And I think that I can defeat you in any battle. Your choice, Christian.
"insolence"??

"win a battle"????

LMAO! That wasn't a personal attack, sorry you took it that way. I made an observation about you & how you often misinterpret the "first sentence" of shit you read.

So funny, you talk about me attacking, then you say shit like "Your church builds small people. We can do better without it."

Make up your mind.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#559155 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Studied? What's so hard about interpreting our bible?

[1] "In the beginning ..." = "Once upon a time ..."

[2] "Amen." = "And they lived happily ever after."
Thanks for showing what I mean about studying the Bible.

Again, you got it all wrong.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#559156 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Why must it always be personal for you? Do I insult you or even discuss you personally? No. As personal as I get with you is to share dog data and tell you a joke.
I had called you on this behavior once or twice before, and forgiven you thereafter. But it's obviously a habit of thought with you, and won't end. So be it. I take it as permission to go further with you, and I will.
I see this as a character deficiency in you, one I see in most Christians. If one criticizes their god or religion, they swarm like hornets. I don't blame you beyond your capitulation to faith. This behavior is implicit in your church's instruction and example.
Your church builds small people. We can do better without it.
Now, do you want to behave civilly, or continue in this manner? I won't tolerate your insolence. And I think that I can defeat you in any battle. Your choice, Christian.
Sorry, but there is not even any god at all!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#559157 Nov 5, 2012
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but there is not even any god at all!
Sorry, but there is a God. Of course.
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#559158 Nov 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Why must it always be personal for you? Do I insult you or even discuss you personally? No. As personal as I get with you is to share dog data and tell you a joke.
I had called you on this behavior once or twice before, and forgiven you thereafter. But it's obviously a habit of thought with you, and won't end. So be it. I take it as permission to go further with you, and I will.
I see this as a character deficiency in you, one I see in most Christians. If one criticizes their god or religion, they swarm like hornets. I don't blame you beyond your capitulation to faith. This behavior is implicit in your church's instruction and example.
Your church builds small people. We can do better without it.
Now, do you want to behave civilly, or continue in this manner? I won't tolerate your insolence. And I think that I can defeat you in any battle. Your choice, Christian.
You should jump about your own border to be free of any (nonexisting) god!

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