Prove there's a god.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#558850 Nov 3, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
Sorry Catcher...didnt see you wrote that..I thought it was from Kitten-kodder. Although still....really? Come on, I expect better from ya than my God gives kids diseases. To think that you would have to believe in him and you dont and I believe in him and dont think that.
A decent omnipotent god wouldn't permit that.

If there is a god, it ALLOWS it to happen.

Since: Mar 09

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#558851 Nov 3, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Ah. How is that different from a fear motivating manipulation technique?
The Bible says those who love God will obey him. Nobody is suposed to be obeying just to be rewarded as the motivation is transparent. Where is the fear behind wanting to do what is right?

Since: Mar 09

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#558853 Nov 3, 2012
@Catcher[quote]My critical thinking won't allow it.[quote]Whats unfair about Jesus saying you dont get a free ride simply by believing you must also live your faith (obedience) and live the correct way. Yeah how dare he expect people to follow love your enemy, neighbor, and brother and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Honestly Catcher I think your problem is you cant believe. And instead of leaving it at that you need to demonize the idea of God so you can pretend thats why you dont believe. God could match your moral code and thoughts 100% and you still wouldnt believe. Thats fine By me, free country and all but dont pretend you are rejecting him based on some moral stand. You just dont believe. why cant u leave it at that w\o the other side having to be ur enemy?

Since: Mar 09

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#558855 Nov 3, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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A decent omnipotent god wouldn't permit that.
If there is a god, it ALLOWS it to happen.
Yes God rarely intervenes imo. A consequence of free will, suceptible bodies, genetics, making this planet an unsfae place to be etc is what makes people sick. There would be nois us even being here or us even having free will if God rigged the outcome
Phred

Central Point, OR

#558856 Nov 3, 2012
Rose THeodors wrote:
<quoted text>There is a God. I said it, I wrote it and it is immortalized, so God is. There, proven.
Same goes for flying pigs, too.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#558857 Nov 3, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
@Catcher[quote]My critical thinking won't allow it.[quote]Whats unfair about Jesus saying you dont get a free ride simply by believing you must also live your faith (obedience) and live the correct way. Yeah how dare he expect people to follow love your enemy, neighbor, and brother and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Honestly Catcher I think your problem is you cant believe. And instead of leaving it at that you need to demonize the idea of God so you can pretend thats why you dont believe. God could match your moral code and thoughts 100% and you still wouldnt believe. Thats fine By me, free country and all but dont pretend you are rejecting him based on some moral stand. You just dont believe. why cant u leave it at that w\o the other side having to be ur enemy?
Skom, I think you are a good and decent person, and I respect you.

I don't believe in ANYTHING supernatural--witches, ghosts, fairies, astrology, gods, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack.

It's just my nature. I'm not discriminating against god or gods, but it is part of the supernatural and I find no evidence to support it.

I don't claim a higher moral ground. But faith is not in my nature. That's the divide between you and me, and we're not going to be able to cross it.

This does not mean we can't respect one another. I have great respect for other believers, such as Al Garcia and our long-lost RockStarAwesome. And one of the finest people I have ever come across was a Christian, a chaplain at my undergraduate school.

Since: Oct 10

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#558858 Nov 3, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
@Hiding...dont know how i cut off rest of my post about sins of thought. But doesnt your own moral code tell you it is wrong to lust after another man's wife or to want to cheat on your wife or to be jealous of others?You saiid religion created sin to control but only God knows what one thinks and if the idea is to be moral in both thought and deed because it is the right way to live, how is that a negative?
What's a wife? OH yeah. Those are the things only heterosexual males can have. How convenient that must be for you. If you don't like the one you have, you can just get rid of her and get another one. Your god is awesome.
Lily the aborter

Phoenix, AZ

#558859 Nov 3, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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And yet these innocent little children sometimes get leukemia.
Nice god you have there.
Or do you have an answer for this one too?
Noooooo Catcher...that is not the way it works. If good things happen, it is because of god. "God gave me the strenth to make it through the bad times"..."God made it rain and saved our crops". If bad things happen, it is because of satan/the devil/ Beelzebub/the evil one/Lucifer/etc. "The devil made him kill those people"..."satan told Patty to push her mom down the stairs".

See if it is good...thank god. If it is bad...blame satan. There has to be a boogey man to blame the bad stuff on. So satan gave those innocent, little children leukemia. And if they go into remission it is because of god's work. That's how it goes in Thumperland.

Since: Oct 10

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#558860 Nov 3, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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If you want to impress by putting a potato in your pants, it's better to put it in the front.
I tried that. It really doesn't impress lesbians. Front or back.

:-p
Lily the aborter

Phoenix, AZ

#558861 Nov 3, 2012
Rose THeodors wrote:
<quoted text>There is a God. I said it, I wrote it and it is immortalized, so God is. There, proven.
Nope, god doesn't exist. I said it, I wrote it and it is immortalized, so there is no god. There, proven.

“Primum non nocere”

Since: Jun 11

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#558862 Nov 3, 2012
There is no way to prove that there is a god that I can think of, I guess that is why it's called faith.

Since: Oct 10

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#558863 Nov 3, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Your posting style bores me. Makes me feel like I am talking to an adolecent with a stick jammed up their a$$. But the books of Numbers and Deut show that people were not responsible for their disparing words against God unless they were 21 and counted in the census. Jesus also says for one to enter Heaven they must be like a child. He rebuked a diciple from trying to keep children from coming to Him and says those that lead children into sin deserve to have a millstone tied around their neck and thrown in the river. And the ones that led them to sin were the guilty ones. Deut says children do not know the difference between right and wrong. So I believe there is plenty of support for an 'age of accountability'. The Bible also speaks of those who REJECT Christ which obviously a child has not done
I'm not 21. I REJECT Christ.

Do I get a pass?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#558864 Nov 3, 2012
Phred wrote:
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Same goes for flying pigs, too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ mark-c-miller/pig-born-with-wi ngs_b_812882.html

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#558865 Nov 3, 2012
Lily the aborter wrote:
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Noooooo Catcher...that is not the way it works. If good things happen, it is because of god. "God gave me the strenth to make it through the bad times"..."God made it rain and saved our crops". If bad things happen, it is because of satan/the devil/ Beelzebub/the evil one/Lucifer/etc. "The devil made him kill those people"..."satan told Patty to push her mom down the stairs".
See if it is good...thank god. If it is bad...blame satan. There has to be a boogey man to blame the bad stuff on. So satan gave those innocent, little children leukemia. And if they go into remission it is because of god's work. That's how it goes in Thumperland.
"The old lady who said there must be a devil, else how could they make pictures that looked exactly like him, reasoned like a trained theologian -- like a doctor of divinity. "— Robert Green Ingersoll, from "Superstition" (1898)

Since: Oct 10

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#558866 Nov 3, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Yes..you are an idiot if you think God gives little kids leukemia. Do you blame him for making you stupid, thus your subsequent unbelief? I rank you just barely above a troll. I think our conversations are probably over
The Skombois white sheet just dropped on the Catcher. I love irony.

You don't blame him for making me homosexual. Do you think Leukemia is a choice?

Since: Oct 10

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#558867 Nov 3, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No, my moral code doesn't tell me lust is wrong. It tells me that lust is healthy.
I'm lusting. Quick, somebody hit me with a bible.

Since: Mar 09

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#558868 Nov 3, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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What's a wife? OH yeah. Those are the things only heterosexual males can have. How convenient that must be for you. If you don't like the one you have, you can just get rid of her and get another one. Your god is awesome.
Wow that was about as desperate of an attempt to start a fight as I have seen on Topix. For starters I have made my views on bigotry known. Secondly coveting your neighbors wife is hardly a referendum on marriage, the point is the sinful thoughts to want to violate another's union. And divorce is unacceptable in God's eyes except in the case of adulltary.We apply tons of verses to both genders even though it may be about a single person or a man because that is how an individual is to apply the Bible to him or herself. But if it makes you happy you should ot covet your neighbors spouse

Since: Mar 09

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#558869 Nov 3, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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The Skombois white sheet just dropped on the Catcher. I love irony.
You don't blame him for making me homosexual. Do you think Leukemia is a choice?
Is there medication you are supposed to be on that you stopped taking?

Since: Mar 09

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#558870 Nov 3, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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I'm not 21. I REJECT Christ.
Do I get a pass?
It is hard to say. You lack basic reading comprehension so maybe you will get an idiot exception?The point is a child doesnt know better or the difference from right or wrong and therefore cant be helld accountable, especially if they have never heard of Christ in which case they cant reject him. But if you drink paint or try lick an electrical outlet or any other absurdly idiotic way to die before you turn 21 then come back and let me know. Although I definitely was not surprised to learn you are younger than 21

Since: Jul 09

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#558871 Nov 3, 2012
United in faith wrote:
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that was your answer, not a scientist's answer.
animals do not possess a moral conscience.
ONLY humans do.
that is a fact.
If morality was simply a "trait" then everyone would opperate on the same level of moral standards.
that is silly

all social species possess morality

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