“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#551921 Oct 17, 2012
Just Results wrote:
Nor do we have the burden to prove it.
Nobody has any burden of proof unless they are trying to change the minds of others. Right now, your church is evaporating away. If that's cool with you, then indeed, you have no burden of proof.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#551922 Oct 17, 2012
YELLODOG wrote:
<quoted text>
put your money where your foul mouth is.
show me who the SECULAR founding fathers were.
go ahead, prove your accusations we were founded by secual men and then i want you to PROVE to me that John Qincy Adams ( a significant founding father) didn't say...
"The highest glory of the American revolution was this, that it came in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government WITH THE PRINCIPLES OF CHRISTIANITY." John quincy Adams
"The bible is the cornerstone of libery. A students perusal of the sacred volume will make him a better citizen, a better father, a better husband." THOMAS JEFFERSON
"The bible is the rock on which our republic rests." ANDREW JACKSON
"We have staked the future of American civilazation upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves ACCORDING TO THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD." JAMES MADISON
every founding father that constructed our constitution was a man who believed in GOD and the bible as the ultimate truth.
history records it and proves it with their own words.
just so you don't think i am making it up.....
http://swampbubbles.com/bubble/quotes-from-ou...
this nation was absolutely not founded on a SECULAR system.
because our founding fathers MADE SURE the constitution ensured the freedom to exercise religious freedom WITHOUT the governments interference.
they PROTECTED IT.
and in the colonial times our leaders held church in the nations capatol building.
wouldn't that send the atheists to the looney bins today.....HAHAHA
what cracks me up is how ANY atheist can even tell themself that when every time they pull out a dollar bill they see, "IN GOD WE TRUST" staring back at them.
or to count all the churches and temples across the lands of America
or to hear the nations motto "ONE NATION UNDER GOD"
or to watch presidents being sworn into office with their hand on the HOLY BIBLE while reading passages from the scriptures.
or when a crisis happens and they flip in the news they see our leaders saying we must look to GOD for our guidence ....
and when congress opens sessions with prayers.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING?
you are an unbeliever living in a nation founded upon the belief in GOD and the bible.
Oh my....there are SO many quotes to choose from to counter yours, but here are just a few:

Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789 (Richard Price had written to TJ on Oct. 26. about the harm done by religion and wrote "Would not Society be better without Such religions? Is Atheism less pernicious than Demonism?")

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

And this last from Jefferson- though there are MANY more but this one is a personal favorite of mine:

“Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.”

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/thomas_...

Now if you want more quotes from Jefferson or any of our other founding fathers showing their disdain for religion and Christianity in particular, do let me know!

But I am heading out soon so it wouldn't be until later today or perhaps not until tomorrow.

“ONE NATION UNDER GOD!”

Since: Jan 09

Cincinnati Ohio

#551923 Oct 17, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>No....YOUR burden is all that WILLFUL IGNORANCE and INTELLECTUAL LAZINESS you so willingly carry around with you.
The burden of those who are INTELLIGENT is that we have to tolerate domestic TERRORISTS such as YOU truly are.
Next- do you think everyone who believes in a different god than YOU do is an atheist?
I'm sure you do since "Christians" like you are not only WILLFULLY IGNORANT and INTELLECTUALLY LAZY, you are also wannabe FASCISTS and DICTATORS.
You should be in prison.
your disdain for GOD has made you loopy.

calling people who love God terrorists is the most LAME and asinine thing you could say. You are deranged OCB

Terrorists are people who have no fear of GOD and think it is aok to pilfer, harm and kill others.

Christians follow "Thou shall not kill"
we don't terrorize ....... we pray for folks.

you are so mean spirited and full of bitterness.
thats a side effect to not knowing GOD.

you better get ahold of that anger before it gets a hold of you.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#551924 Oct 17, 2012
YELLODOG wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU are out of your mind.
the NYT just ran an article not long back about how DETROIT was out of control, the crime rate TRIPLING.
they don't have enough police there to handle the thousands of gang memebers murdering and killing people every day.
they tell people if you go to detroit do so at your own risk.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/detr...
crime is very much on the rise.
the more unemployment we experience the worse that makes it to.
I see- so DETROIT- one American city out of thousands and thousands and a city that has always had a lot of crime is what you are using as representative for the entire nation. That's pretty weak of you to do so.

No....what has baffled crime experts is that despite increasing unemployment, the national crime rate has DECREASED significantly and dramatically.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#551925 Oct 17, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>There's nothing wrong with pretending.
huh?! you don't hafta pretend when you're with me;)

“ONE NATION UNDER GOD!”

Since: Jan 09

Cincinnati Ohio

#551926 Oct 17, 2012
scambuster wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe he caught a case of the gay, and is angry about it? Not that there's anything wrong with being gay...
so then you don't believe then that there is such a thing as a 'higer' standard of moral code, or a right and wrong?

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#551927 Oct 17, 2012
YELLODOG wrote:
<quoted text>
put your money where your foul mouth is.
show me who the SECULAR founding fathers were.
go ahead, prove your accusations we were founded by secual men and then i want you to PROVE to me that John Qincy Adams ( a significant founding father) didn't say...
"The highest glory of the American revolution was this, that it came in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government WITH THE PRINCIPLES OF CHRISTIANITY." John quincy Adams
"The bible is the cornerstone of libery. A students perusal of the sacred volume will make him a better citizen, a better father, a better husband." THOMAS JEFFERSON
"The bible is the rock on which our republic rests." ANDREW JACKSON
"We have staked the future of American civilazation upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves ACCORDING TO THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD." JAMES MADISON
every founding father that constructed our constitution was a man who believed in GOD and the bible as the ultimate truth.
history records it and proves it with their own words.
just so you don't think i am making it up.....
http://swampbubbles.com/bubble/quotes-from-ou...
this nation was absolutely not founded on a SECULAR system.
because our founding fathers MADE SURE the constitution ensured the freedom to exercise religious freedom WITHOUT the governments interference.
they PROTECTED IT.
and in the colonial times our leaders held church in the nations capatol building.
wouldn't that send the atheists to the looney bins today.....HAHAHA
what cracks me up is how ANY atheist can even tell themself that when every time they pull out a dollar bill they see, "IN GOD WE TRUST" staring back at them.
or to count all the churches and temples across the lands of America
or to hear the nations motto "ONE NATION UNDER GOD"
or to watch presidents being sworn into office with their hand on the HOLY BIBLE while reading passages from the scriptures.
or when a crisis happens and they flip in the news they see our leaders saying we must look to GOD for our guidence ....
and when congress opens sessions with prayers.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING?
you are an unbeliever living in a nation founded upon the belief in GOD and the bible.
Here- just for starters- if you want more quotes from our founding fathers to illustrate their disdain of religion and Christianity in particular, do let me know....but it wouldn't be until later on today or maybe not until tomorrow as I am heading out in just a very few minutes.

"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on
man...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the
teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and imposters led by Paul, the first great corruptor of the teachings of Jesus."

http://www.ecis.com/~alizard/founding-fathers...

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#551928 Oct 17, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
oxymoron alert!;)
So you don't think gay people have FAMILIES???

WOW.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#551929 Oct 17, 2012
YELLODOG wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU are out of your mind.
the NYT just ran an article not long back about how DETROIT was out of control, the crime rate TRIPLING.
they don't have enough police there to handle the thousands of gang memebers murdering and killing people every day.
they tell people if you go to detroit do so at your own risk.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/detr...
crime is very much on the rise.
the more unemployment we experience the worse that makes it to.
LOL!! You are using what has ALWAYS been a crime-ridden city- DETROIT-as representational of the thousands and thousands of cities across America? LOL!!!

Uh....no......what has baffled crime experts is that DESPITE the rise in unemployment, crime rates across the nation are down significantly and dramatically.

Gotta go- TOODLES!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#551930 Oct 17, 2012
Just Results wrote:
go to hell, you a8shole.
What happened to your promised peace and fruits of the spirits? Don't you mind that you were promised these? You're in a deal with people that have already failed to keep their part of the bargain. Can you move a mountain with faith? Did your god return soon as promised?

When are you going to realize that you've been swindled not just out of your tithes and your time, but also your only shot at an authentic existence, for nothing in return but promises from proven liars?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#551931 Oct 17, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I have an interesting story about prostitutes. One day, I may tell you.
gays live their lives around their sexual orientation like gluttons live for food. wow - what an interesting & 'special' emphasis on life.....

“ONE NATION UNDER GOD!”

Since: Jan 09

Cincinnati Ohio

#551932 Oct 17, 2012
BOOOOTS

i know HL has you on a tight leash but i have something to say that you really need to hear.

you are posting your 'Yellodog hate blogs' in hopes that your asinine insults will somehow stifle my free speech here..........

i would really like to ask you ONE question
and who knows maybe HL will give you permission to answer it.....maybe not.

you live in canada......... you have all the so called 'free rights' there to endorse 'queerly beloved' AND you have even gone so far in Canada now to make laws punishing folks who dare oppose it. you jail and fine people for objecting to sexual immorality there, and even your system not forbids parents from opting their children out of classes teaching them all about the 'ins and outs' of homosexuality.
even your private schools are now under attack to forbid parents or teachers from disengaging in classes on homosexuality.

you have everything you want right where you are
you should be as happy as a buzzard feasting on road kill, but your not........WHY IS THAT?

why are you sticking your nose in the American system? why are you not satisfied with your liberal and secular socialist country?
if you were you wouldn't be trying to meddle in how OUR country is governed.

or could it be that sneeky little pesty AGENDA that says, the whole world must agree with gays ... or else?

my advice to you booots would be to stop worrying about how we choose to govern our states here and worry about your own neighbor there.
you have your 'equal rights' to call sexual immorality a legal right there, you are not an American or live here in America boooots
so stop pushing and peddling your love of smut on our doorstep.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#551933 Oct 17, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
One minor point: In the US, they don't make beer.:D
So what are you working on? Are you affiliated with any Universities and what is your research on?
I have a (pretty good) laymen's knowledge of the Mesozoic, as I have always had an interest in paleontology, especially involving dinosaurs. Would love to know if you know anything about the thory that Nanotyrannus was actually a juvenile T-Rex?
Nah, I only have a lowly bachelor of science degree and I got into retail sales of all things. For the last couple of years or so I have been brushing up on the old knowledge by debating on websites.

And we do have some pretty good beer in the U.S., you just have to avoid the major brand names. We have microbrewries that will match anything you guys have. Of course we drank Coors and Bud in those days, long before microbreweries came out.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#551934 Oct 17, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
Firstly, talking to each over is natural, talking over a phone isn't, the same with gays, having heterosexual sex is natural, homosexual sex is unnatural, including being able to bear a child.
Yo!! Orange dude... Have you figured out how to answer my question on your "gay religion" comment?

What is a "gay religion"? I'm still waiting for you to respond.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#551935 Oct 17, 2012
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it might be seen as "unnatural" by the gay person having sex with someone of the opposite sex.
But if a gay woman wants a baby badly enough and can't afford artificial insemination and/or likes as a PERSON the straight guy she has sex with and would like that person to be the father of their child, then whatever "unnaturalness" they might feel about engaging in sex with a member of the opposite sex would be secondary at the very least.
As far as what you say about gay marriage, it has already been passed into law in 8 states and I think it will become legal in all 50 states in time.
Yep, it is just a matter of time. I am going to be voting for it this fall. Does your 8 states included Washington State? It was passed by the legislature but it is now under referendum which means the people have the final say so.
Orangelion

Wrexham, UK

#551936 Oct 17, 2012
USN Atheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yo!! Orange dude... Have you figured out how to answer my question on your "gay religion" comment?
What is a "gay religion"? I'm still waiting for you to respond.
I wasn't being literal, there is no such thing as an actual religion with some homosexual deity with his homosexuality to being the main thing about the religion. I was saying there fanatic wants for homosexuality, and their perverted brains making them have a strong desire for gay homosexuality, they are earthly beings, no more than seeking worthless pleasure through homosexual fetishes.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#551937 Oct 17, 2012
YELLODOG wrote:
<quoted text>
how about instead i tell YOU that no CHRISTIAN sued over the billboards.
When we get involved is when you God haters try to remove monuments and crosses and things that have been in place for decades..........
you can spew all the anti-God garbage you want to.
you have every right to..........but your right ends when it infringes on my right to express my faith and exercise my religion freely.
Just because something has been in place for decades does not mean that it is right and has to stay where it is. Lets use all of those "Whites Only" signs as an example. They were in place for years and they are now gone. How about all of those billboards where a "doctor" was extolling about a brand of cigarettes...that too has gone the way of the dinosaurs.
Welcome to the 21st century "yellodog", a century where many people refuse to be led around like sheep just because their "god" says so. A century where freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion and where our government does not break it's own laws by sponsoring or favoring a specific religion or "god" over another as it has been doing.

You can scream all you want about the infringement on your rights and faith, and your ability to exercise your religion freely....scream away, I invite you to list where your rights have been infringed upon though we both know that it is not being taken away from you but it is being put in it's proper place as it should have been put in the first place.
Your "god" has no place in my government (which coincedentally is yours as well) to include public schools, public parks, public buildings AND all government facilities and land.

Now be a good little girl and start your list of how your religious rights are being taken away.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#551938 Oct 17, 2012
Just Results wrote:
athetards are "spiritually defective"
You clearly have no concept of what spirituality is. For starters, it has nothing to do with believing in magic or ghosts. Your religion has kept your horizon small and your experience dilute.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#551939 Oct 17, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't being literal, there is no such thing as an actual religion with some homosexual deity with his homosexuality to being the main thing about the religion. I was saying there fanatic wants for homosexuality, and their perverted brains making them have a strong desire for gay homosexuality, they are earthly beings, no more than seeking worthless pleasure through homosexual fetishes.
Very well...thank-you for answering, there are so few that will do that.

Obviously I do not agree with your opinion of homosexuality. You do not like that people are attracted to someone of the same sex, that is obvious. But calling their attraction perverse or a fetish is incorrect. Look at it this way...two men engage in sex behind closed doors...fine, their business, what harm is it doing to you? Those same two men are also in love with each other, in a committed relationship with each other (depending on the state they may also be married)...where is the "fetish" of two people in love with each other? Where is the perverseness of two people in love?

Do you think people of the same sex can love one another? Have actual emotional feeling of love for one another? You (as well as many others) seem to be stuck on the aspect of physical sex when it comes to homosexuality. You think it is icky, gorss, an abomination etc. when all it is is the physical expression of two adults towards each other. Sure they may not be in love or it may just be so that each can mutually "get off"...how is that any different than those who are heterosexual who do the exact same thing just with different methods?
RiversideRedneck

Santa Barbara, CA

#551940 Oct 17, 2012
USN - Be a good little boy & tell us how your free rights are infringed upon due to religion...
I'll wait.
Google is free.
Do tell..........

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