Why DO White People Claim Rock And Roll

Why DO White People Claim Rock And Roll

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CocoCT

United States

#3 Jan 18, 2008
What white group is claiming the invention of rock and roll? The STones, Clapton and many others acknowledge their black mentors. White groups certainly didnt' invent rock and roll, but they were the most successful in selling it to the consumer.
WhyDoesItMatter

Baton Rouge, LA

#4 Jan 18, 2008
CocoCT wrote:
What white group is claiming the invention of rock and roll? The STones, Clapton and many others acknowledge their black mentors. White groups certainly didnt' invent rock and roll, but they were the most successful in selling it to the consumer.
Yea, I'm with you. Most notable early Rock & Roll artist are very vocal about who their influences were, early black blues artist.
I also have to ask though, Why the hell does this matter anyway? Obviously "TheTruth" is simply trying to start another racist "I hate you and you hate me" thread, as if there aren't enough of them on Topix already.

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Since: Jan 08

Conway

#5 Jan 18, 2008
WhyDoesItMatter wrote:
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Yea, I'm with you. Most notable early Rock & Roll artist are very vocal about who their influences were, early black blues artist.
I also have to ask though, Why the hell does this matter anyway? Obviously "TheTruth" is simply trying to start another racist "I hate you and you hate me" thread, as if there aren't enough of them on Topix already.
Same thoughts here, it's a shame and waste of time to fuel these hate topics.
Jose

Orlando, FL

#6 Jan 18, 2008
I believe I remember hearing it was radio disc jockey WOLFMAN JACK, a white person, that actually coined the phrase "ROCK & ROLL". Regardless of its rhythm and blues heritage it wouldn't be called "Rock & Roll" if it weren't for him. Therefore, if he was the man who coined the phrase, "Rock & Roll" was in fact invented by a white man. Music styles, on the other hand, all have several different roots and influences. Many of them feed from one another.
Jose

Orlando, FL

#7 Jan 18, 2008
For the record, as I said I "believed" it was Wolfman Jack, however I just did a little research and found it was Alan Freed (a disc jockey from Cleveland), a white man, that coined the phrase "Rock & Roll". Wolfman Jack was a fan of Alan Freed and used his phrase on numerous occassions with a much broader audience. I'm guessing the reason the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland is because of Alan Freed.

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Since: Jan 08

NORTH ROSE!

#8 Jan 18, 2008
because the african americans claimed jazz and rap. Plus, only white people can stand men in tight clothes, big hair, and more make-up than Mee-Mee (drew carey show)

Since: Jan 08

Tuscaloosa, AL

#9 Jan 18, 2008
The Truth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R ock_and_roll
ROCK AND ROLL WAS FIRST PLAYED BY RITHYM AND BLUE PLAYERS IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE 1920
IT WAS CONSIDERED N***ER MUSIC
IKE TURNER PUT ON THE FIRST ALBUM IN 1948
2008 WHITE CLAIM ROCK AND ROLL LIKE THEY INVENTED IT THEY SAME WAY THEY CLAIM THEY INVENTED EVERYTHING ELSE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
A lot of white people listen to rock but when did white people claim rock? I never did.
Footballer

Orlando, FL

#12 Jan 18, 2008
nimbleh bimbleh wrote:
because the african americans claimed jazz and rap. Plus, only white people can stand men in tight clothes, big hair, and more make-up than Mee-Mee (drew carey show)
LOL! That's funny, but I think you're referring to 80's style GLAM ROCK or ARENA ROCK or HEAVY METAL. "Rock & Roll", I think, is 50's rock.
Phillip Brame

United States

#13 Jan 18, 2008
Now what does that say about society when some people can and others can not. Oh and by the way you will never be able to separate the truth from the truth. As for Rap Do what you Do Ba-by
Cracker Jack wrote:
We took over rock and roll. You black folks might have came up with it, but since you weren't able to get on tv, radio, and tour like we were, we got more exposure. And now decades later, we completely separated you from it. Can't wait till we do the same with rap.
The Incredible One

Seattle, WA

#14 Jan 18, 2008
Lou Reed was the first rapper.
Anthony

Corona, NY

#18 Jan 18, 2008
The Truth wrote:
ALL WHITES DO IS STEAL
Absolutely hilarious!!!
Taphonomy

Orlando, FL

#19 Jan 18, 2008
The Truth wrote:
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READ THE ARTICLE U IDIOT
THE TERM
" ROCK AND ROLL"
WAS ALREADY BEING USED BY BLACKS WHO INVETED THE MUSIC IN THE LATE 1930 AND 1940
THAT WHITE PUNK DID NOT SAY ROCK AND ROLL UNTIL THE 1950
JUST BECOUSE WHITE PEOPLE HEARD THE TERM LAST DOES NOT MEANED U COINDED IT
Maybe you should read it a little closer before you call someone an idiot for not reading.

He very specifically wrote:

"...IF Alan Freed was the man who coined the phrase, "Rock & Roll"...

Was that just an oversight on your part, or, by your logic would it be appropriate now for you to be considered an idiot?
Janie in CT

United States

#20 Jan 18, 2008
I always thought the term "rock and Roll" originated as sexually innuendo way back there in the 1930"s.
Taphonomy

Orlando, FL

#21 Jan 18, 2008
Furthermore, after reading his statement, it was very clear to me that he was attempting to answer the reason why a person might claim a white person invented it. He wasn't trying to prove anything otherwise. In all actuality, I have never heard a person say that a white person invented Rock & Roll except for the title of this thread. Is there possibly a link on the internet somewhere that you can provide that says a white person claimed rock & roll please? And if you find that link, just ask the person that wrote it why he thinks the way he does.
John Holliday

United States

#22 Jan 18, 2008
READ THE ARTICLE U IDIOT.....
Infusion of American Blues
Often the first instances of this come through the Stones' use of a blues-based R&B sound. Jagger and Richards' shared interest in the Americans Jimmy Reed, Muddy Waters, and Little Walter, were influential on the band's leader, Brian Jones, of whom Richards says, "He was more into T-Bone Walker and jazz-blues stuff. We'd turn him onto Chuck Berry and say,'Look, it's all the same sh1t, man, and you can do it.' Charlie Watts, a traditional jazz drummer, was also turned onto the blues after his introduction to the Stones. "Keith and Brian turned me on to Jimmy Reed and people like that. I learned that Earl Phillips was playing on those records like a jazz drummer, playing swing, with a straight four..."

Jagger, recalling when he first heard the likes of Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Muddy Waters, Fats Domino and other heavies of the American blues scene, said it "seemed the most real thing" he had heard up to that point. Similarly, Keith Richards, describing the first time he listened to Muddy Waters, said it was the "most powerful music [he had] ever heard...the most expressive." These strong early impressions helped fuse the music of the American Blues into the foundation of the Rolling Stones.
Sounds like a lot of white guys giving credit to a lot of black guys to me.
:)
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#24 Jan 19, 2008
The Incredible One wrote:
Lou Reed was the first rapper.
Rap music has it's roots in socially engineered music by payments to the recording studios. It was originally used to put the right and wrong in culturally deprived society by music.
White people steal

Oxford, MS

#25 Jan 20, 2008
White people never originated anything. They steal the minority things and take it as their own. This is seen throughout American history since the English landed. They stole from the Indians and stole rock and roll from Little Richard, Chuck Barry, James Brown, Funkadelic, Hendrix, and Isleys to name a few. Someone said in a previous comment that telling the truth will start a race riot. A revolution starts when someone is fed up with the way our society is going and decides that it is time for a change and all great men are assassinated for their belief when their belief contradict the white society. "TheTruth" shall set you free!!!! WhyDoesItMatter Baton Rouge LA

Wild Irish Rose2

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Since: Sep 07

United States

#26 Jan 20, 2008
The Truth wrote:
READ U IDIOT
"However, the term had already been introduced to US audiences, particularly in the lyrics of many rhythm and blues records. Three different songs with the title "Rock And Roll" were recorded in the late 1940s; one by Paul Bascomb in 1947, another by Wild Bill Moore in 1948, and yet another by Doles Dickens in 1949, and the phrase was in constant use in the lyrics of R&B songs of the time."
Come on, man. What's with the "racist" bs? Music is something that belongs to all people and many different cultures and races have contributed to it. Elvis is known to have started singing Gospel, so "black" music had a huge influence on him and many others.

No one stole "rock n roll". Get with the program, man. I thought we moved past that hate thing; guess not. Black people were still being discriminated against during those time periods you mention. It took another 20 years for the Civil Rights Movement to rectify that. A lot of black artists didn't get the recognition they deserved at the time; that was wrong. But they have gotten it since then.

You can't put music on hold and wait 'til the people you want to give credit to catch up. Music is alive, fluid, changing. Let's not try and screw that up too.
discriminated

Oxford, MS

#27 Jan 20, 2008
So you believe that the Civil Rights Movement rectified all that is black. We are still discriminated against till this day. This subject of this blog is why do white people claim rock and roll this is the subject of my argument. Not racism... I'm not taking credit from Elvis because Tupac and Bob Marley are our Elvis. Elvis was born and raised only 45 min. from here. I attend a school where white people dress as black people for Halloween.

Since: Jan 08

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Jan 20, 2008
discriminated wrote:
So you believe that the Civil Rights Movement rectified all that is black. We are still discriminated against till this day. This subject of this blog is why do white people claim rock and roll this is the subject of my argument. Not racism... I'm not taking credit from Elvis because Tupac and Bob Marley are our Elvis. Elvis was born and raised only 45 min. from here. I attend a school where white people dress as black people for Halloween.
woo, yeah. Mississippi sucks worse than Alabama!

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