Oldest Language in India : Telugu or ...
Teluguiite

Schenectady, NY

#203 Aug 26, 2014
Naveen kumar golty bastard , first remember that Tirupath temple was a tamil temple and all the inscriptions were in tamil. You dirty telugus destroyed it and overrode it with your dirty language there. And you speak as though your people are very cultured . Telugu is not even a language. Its dirty shit spoken by jokers like you. No manners anywhere. Both your men and women look ugly and ill-mannered.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#204 Aug 27, 2014
Teluguiite wrote:
Naveen kumar golty bastard , first remember that Tirupath temple was a tamil temple and all the inscriptions were in tamil. You dirty telugus destroyed it and overrode it with your dirty language there. And you speak as though your people are very cultured . Telugu is not even a language. Its dirty shit spoken by jokers like you. No manners anywhere. Both your men and women look ugly and ill-mannered.
arey bastard son of a prostitue with several bastards blood. Thirupathi temple was builted by a telugu king pallava in ancient telugu empire now tamilnadu and that script was tamil but itwas born from pallava telugu script evolved as tamil script its pallavas script. Even ur half language is a tribal version of telugu dialect u beggars cant pronounce telugu with ur half tongues and dumb brains thus it evolved as Tamil. Its Telugus natives of India ruled u african beggars and developed u ra bastard. Chodas,pallavas,nayaks were telugus, pandyas,cheras were Sinhaleese who ruled u and developed u barbarian beggars. Its ur culture totally derived from great telugu culture. There is nothing called tamil ur dirty shit tamil. It was a tribal version of telugu and script born at 7th cen from telugu u fake beggars
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#205 Aug 27, 2014
Its u tamil beggars are ill mannered bastard u illiterated animals marries the own family members shameless beggars,u beggars built the temples for heroines that is ur culture kamandhulu. U bastards are looters and cheaters. No culture and nothing from u bastards telugu has the unbeatable culture and traditions did u ever seen telugu people bastard. Talking dirty half language that is not at all language to call it. Talking tribal version of telugu with sinhala influence and writing with pallava grantha script.
Aadhi Thamizhan

Bangalore, India

#208 Aug 31, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
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arey bastard son of a prostitue with several bastards blood. Thirupathi temple was builted by a telugu king pallava in ancient telugu empire now tamilnadu and that script was tamil but itwas born from pallava telugu script evolved as tamil script its pallavas script. Even ur half language is a tribal version of telugu dialect u beggars cant pronounce telugu with ur half tongues and dumb brains thus it evolved as Tamil. Its Telugus natives of India ruled u african beggars and developed u ra bastard. Chodas,pallavas,nayaks were telugus, pandyas,cheras were Sinhaleese who ruled u and developed u barbarian beggars. Its ur culture totally derived from great telugu culture. There is nothing called tamil ur dirty shit tamil. It was a tribal version of telugu and script born at 7th cen from telugu u fake beggars
"OTHA" mududa naayae vaaya "MAYIRU PUDUNGI"
JokerNaveen

Palakkad, India

#210 Sep 1, 2014
Aadhi Thamizhan wrote:
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"OTHA" mududa naayae vaaya "MAYIRU PUDUNGI"
Leave that retard, poor thing his wife ran with a strong ,well built &good looking Tamil man. I think this gorilla is a Sinhala tar faced monkey.I have been seeing him in different names posting many crap posts.Of which only some 20% is logical.
shyam

Chennai, India

#211 Sep 2, 2014
JokerNaveen wrote:
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Leave that retard, poor thing his wife ran with a strong ,well built &good looking Tamil man. I think this gorilla is a Sinhala tar faced monkey.I have been seeing him in different names posting many crap posts.Of which only some 20% is logical.
Roughy 20% that too he copy paste those from internet...
He have no brain to think logically...

He is mad junkie freak of his mother tongue...

He is got only one cursed talent, he is gud at writing crap stories to spoil Tamil names...

Filthy bugger...
devaraj

Vellore, India

#215 Sep 9, 2014
i am also tamil family i have reseach into language telgu is one old language ,but tamil language mother for telgu eg vijayanagar dynsty,pallava dynasty,kaktiya dynsty ,sozha dynasty,kshatriya, kadavans , kammas tamil kings only pandiya dnsty only
xyz

Rajkot, India

#216 Sep 17, 2014
Arun wrote:
Its a shame that people with in India have to fight out about language. Well just to add summary you are fighting outing oldest language without proper proof. One says stories imaginary other another. Telugu is the oldest language cause it has inscriptions unearthed aged at 4500BC and. Ever know tomorrow they might unearth 10,000 BC old Telugu inscriptions and just matter of time. Sanskrit was developed and used in the northern India starting early 200 AD before which the actually language used was Pali and prakrit. After which Sanskrit gained a strong foothold in the northern India until 1000AD, after which the. Ollapse of the language started once Hindi was the common language among people in north and Telugu in the south. Old Tamil existed in southern most tip and didn't get a chance to mingle with other language as was the case with Telugu and Sanskrit which had an influence on each other for centuries making it even more popular among most of India. In the south the old tamil was used . Well if so old was Tamil and. Ery reknowned in literature why is that it is spoken only in TN and still only 5th largest spoken in India, where Telugu is 2nd highest spoken language of India in top 15 languages spoken around the world. Telugu Literature has profound affects of influencing languages like Tamil Kannada Malayalam and even Sinhalese. It's the sweetest language of India hence called the "Italian of the East" where 95% of Telugu words end with a vowel giving a sweet effect. Now coming to your age factor , Telugu has inscriptions in Greek history too. Checks your facts right if Tamil even had any influence so far.
So let you ask you a simple question my friend:
Most of the great temple of TN have Telugu inscriptions on the temple walls in Tamil Nadu, but you will not find a single temple in Andhra Pradesh with Tamil inscriptions. Does that even answer your question that whole of south was Telugu speaking until the few centuries back.
Here I would summarise TELUGU is the sweetest and the oldest language in India and world.
bloody golti 's..........atrocity is too much.My foot you don,t have even a classical status which even a copy cat of tamil (kannnada) has.Please achieve some thing and then keep your mouth wide open
accept the truth telugu is a saw dust to tamil otherwise the result would be champestanu of teluu including muddle headed telugu's(bloody goltiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiii)
Divin Rakesh

New Delhi, India

#217 Sep 19, 2014
Fighting on languages without proper proof:
'If I say Malayalam is the Oldest' can anyone digest that.......NO is the answer...
Beacuse most of them who might be writing out here might be knowing that malayalam was the last of the Official languages to be created in the Indian sub-continent...I know people might say its Punjabi...but Punjabi was spoken much before Guru Nanak was born....
Tamil, Telugu, Kannada & Malayalam the dravidian Languages...

Let me tell a sensible story....when a new born baby is born how will he speak ma, pa, uchu....after a few years he will speak some other words, but will his grammar be perfect...obviously NOT...when Do you think a child's grammar gets built up for his Language....may be by the age of 16 approx......until that time he creates his own set of grammar...his own dictionary etc....

So in Tamil the Grammar is incomplete...Telugu has a perfect grammar with vowels and sound Great.....Kannada has all the grammar needed and has a unique style.....Malayalam is most versatile, as any language can be translated to Malayalam (this can be a merit as well a demerit for Malayalam)....

So now go according to the Story, you can answer out yourself which is the oldest and which is the newest....

Fouling any language is not the solution, the reason is we do not know the proper facts....proper facts come with extensive research.....

My forte of research is not of languages but of the civilisation..I found this thread, so just stopped by to make things right....now please dont say that there was an old telugu civilisation.....although tamil is there in the picture, but I am not ye sure about it.....

If any one have still the confusion....you may search for a profesional linguist with speacilisation towards phonology, he can give a clear cut explanation for this confusion....Please don't make a tamil or telugu crap out this post....
This post is only meant for thinkers and not for rationalists......
kathir

Austell, GA

#218 Sep 23, 2014
Prashant Singhal wrote:
Hi,
It is not to hurt anyone/s feeling.
Everyone would do believe that in older days, everyone used to the mode of language communication used to be in the form of literature unlike now.
As per my research, Telugu is the oldest language amongest all south indian languages.
My research goes as below.
Great poets and kings from Tamilnadu and Karnataka, prefer Telugu to write their literature. Even in the modern world, Tamil and Kannada poets would do accept the same. Eg. Tyagaraja Swamy, he hails from TN but he wrote all his keertanas in Telugu, King Sri krishna Devaraya, he is from Karnataka, he simply says that telugu is the most sweetest language. This simply proves.
Thyagarajar Swami lived in Thanjavoor and composed musical songs. He was a son of a Telugu migrant.. There are quite a number of them who eventually became Tamils.. Most of the migration happened during Mughal rule.. T S composed in the language that he best knew, Telugu.. He expressed his devotion is a language closest to his heart.

His musical ambience was still Tamil. Thanjavor had Trinity of composers who came before TS... Tanjavoor produced a Trinity: Muthu Thandavar who pioneered the modern Karnatic Keerthana with Pallavi, AnuPallavia nd Saranam format. He also composed smaller patham for dance.. Marimutha Pillai and Arunachala Kavi composed in Tamil..

All the Bhakthi saints 600 AD composed in Tamil.. Even to this day these are performed and they are sweet to listen to... Appar, Sundarar, Mannikkavasagar, Sambandhar.. 63 Nayanmars and a host of Azhwars composed devotional songs set to 'Ragas'-Pans much before Thayarajar...

Thiruppugazh was composed before Thayarajar and is still very popular in Murugan temples..
kathir

Austell, GA

#219 Sep 23, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Tamil barbarian looters stolen telugu gramer books and transliterated into Tamil which was again a tribal version of Telugu. Tholikavyam is a gramer which was writen by some poets of choda(telugu) court. Tholikappiyam(tamil) is a modified name of Tholikavyam(telugu) tholi means ancient and kavyam means gramer/literature/texts. They dont even know the meaning of tholi in tamil. They created a author for this gramer and named him tholikaappiyar lol.... 2, thirukural/thiruvallavur is modified name for the gramer calld shreevallabham it was writen under pallava court. They dont have shree and bha letters in tamil they named its author name as thiruvalluvar. Tamils r fake idiots translated telugu gramer to Tamil.
thol is a root word in Dravidian... Tamils had grammar when Telugu had only spoken form and writing was much much later.
Thol-old, distant.. tholaivu-distance in Tamil. thol=tele in greek. tholaik_kaatchi=television,
tholainthaan=he got lost.. tholai_nakal.... telecopy...

You can copy and use it or stick to Skt.. thoor_tharshan.....

Tamil uses 100s of words with the root for 1000s of years.. tholai_maaniyiyal- telemetry..

Your Dad is ashamed that he begot an idiot and says,"naveen kumar nee tholainthu pO... Naveen get lost he says....

Let us have a root word challenge and we can form words....
kathir

Austell, GA

#220 Sep 23, 2014
Divin Rakesh wrote:
Fighting on languages without proper proof:
'If I say Malayalam is the Oldest' can anyone digest that.......NO is the answer...
Beacuse most of them who might be writing out here might be knowing that malayalam was the last of the Official languages to be created in the Indian sub-continent...I know people might say its Punjabi...but Punjabi was spoken much before Guru Nanak was born....
Tamil, Telugu, Kannada & Malayalam the dravidian Languages...
Let me tell a sensible story....when a new born baby is born how will he speak ma, pa, uchu....after a few years he will speak some other words, but will his grammar be perfect...obviously NOT...when Do you think a child's grammar gets built up for his Language....may be by the age of 16 approx......until that time he creates his own set of grammar...his own dictionary etc....
So in Tamil the Grammar is incomplete...Telugu has a perfect grammar with vowels and sound Great.....Kannada has all the grammar needed and has a unique style.....Malayalam is most versatile, as any language can be translated to Malayalam (this can be a merit as well a demerit for Malayalam)....
So now go according to the Story, you can answer out yourself which is the oldest and which is the newest....
Fouling any language is not the solution, the reason is we do not know the proper facts....proper facts come with extensive research.....
My forte of research is not of languages but of the civilisation..I found this thread, so just stopped by to make things right....now please dont say that there was an old telugu civilisation.....although tamil is there in the picture, but I am not ye sure about it.....
If any one have still the confusion....you may search for a profesional linguist with speacilisation towards phonology, he can give a clear cut explanation for this confusion....Please don't make a tamil or telugu crap out this post....
This post is only meant for thinkers and not for rationalists......
You can read books from the library written by Indologists and Anthropolpgists... Kamil Zvelebil is a good start... Sounds or lack of a few phonetics is not even a criteria as some bigots say.. They still use English with only 26 characters...

New words are formed using a classical root.. That is how a language becomes modern... For example neer is liquid/water. patha_neer is conditioned water.. theLi_neer-clear water...
neer_aavi -water vapor... neer_iyangkiyal- hydrodyanamics..neer_aadu-take bath (verb)

. one can write 100s of words in Tamil with the old root neer.. If you venture to do that in Malayalam... it has to come back to its base in Tamil... One can resist and borrow or anglicize words call it television as opposed to tholaik_kaatchi or use Skt dhoor_dharshan....

Tamil (Dravidian) is Agglutinate language with proper grammar for forming newer words... phone-pEsi

telephone tholai_pEsi....micro_phone... nuN_pEsi

oottu=feed... feedpoint of an antenna=antennaavin oottap_puLLi...

oottach_chaththu : nutrient

paal_ootti : mammal (that feed their babies with milk)

muL-thorn... Porcupine... muLLam_panRi... Literally thorned_pig

ponthu -slot....Time slot.... nErap_ponthu

moolam-source... Electric source min_moolam

sound=oli; kEL-listen....audio= a sound that you can listen to: kEt_poli... audio_amplifier.. kEt_poli_perukki

perukki-amplifier, alaivi-oscillator.. transmitter-anuppi ; receiver-ERpi

Tamil word multiple is pala->pal or pan attaches to other Tamil words to form

Multiple Access pan_aNukal..... Multiple Access Technique pan_aNukal nutpam..

Triode- mum_munaiyam.... moonu is three in all Dravidian languages...

Duplex ---iru_vazhi

Duplexer-iru_vazhi_yaakki.... Look how we can easily form words and translate with meanings intact....
kathir

Austell, GA

#221 Sep 23, 2014
VEnkat reddy wrote:
Tamil .. Is the oldest
Next is Kannada
Telugu is the child of Kannada
one - Onnu- Ondhu- Okati ???? Where is sanskrit here???
Brahmins create hatred among all caste and linguistic people. They want all of us to fight and they should occupy the higest positions at work. Remember guys dont allow them to separate us.
<quoted text>
three=mooRu Triode=mum_munaiyam (a device that has three terminals; munai-terminal)
vinay

Belgium

#222 Oct 6, 2014
VEnkat reddy wrote:
Tamil .. Is the oldest
Next is Kannada
Telugu is the child of Kannada
one - Onnu- Ondhu- Okati ???? Where is sanskrit here???
Brahmins create hatred among all caste and linguistic people. They want all of us to fight and they should occupy the higest positions at work. Remember guys dont allow them to separate us.
<quoted text>


hey man brahmins are always top in any state, we the best...
vinay

Belgium

#223 Oct 6, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
U kannada fools,kannada font and sounds are copied from telugu,malayalam is copied from tamil,kannada is copied from telugu,kannadigas do u have any history like telugus,telugu population is above 9 crores,kannadis population is 6 crores,telugu is the most speaken language in india after hindi,and in world than tamil and kannada,telugu nri population is 40 lakhs,kannadas nri is 10 lakhs,telugu people in tn are 41% in them 7%r counted as telugu remaining as tamils which they are notable to speak in telugu,means 36 lakh people r living as telugus in tn,and 33 lakhs in karnataka,13 lakhs in maharashtra,and lakhs of telugu people living across india
hold ur tongue u idiot,, your telgu is nothing for us...we have won 7 jnanapith awards, ur script is copied by us... forget about your education ...u r illitrate man... who is kannadis? what is the meaning of that..... & about percentage, it might be 1995
Hari

Chennai, India

#224 Oct 18, 2014
Tamil is the oldest language than telugu and also other languages. Telugu been a combination of tamil and sanskrit. Someone says that there is no 'ha' sound in tamil. yes its true but ,its there in telugu because of the sanskrit influence. Some month before i have went to tirupathi and found lot of tamil inscriptions on temple. Whoever says its not there pls once again go to the temple and verify. Thirupathi was built by tamil king and later that temple was developed by krishnadevaraya. I am supporting all the languages of India. every language is great but don't disgrace the other language. Its like disgracing ur own blood relations. My dad is tamlian and my mom is telugu i love both language...
Raviteja

Ashburn, VA

#225 Oct 19, 2014
Raviteja
Raviteja

Ashburn, VA

#226 Oct 19, 2014
What about the language we are indians and divided by linguistic basis.There is no meaning for fighting abt this.if any inscriptions found in any language there is an estimation of age.Keep in mind that its just estimation we dont have time machine to find its age accurately.every language in this discussion has old as well as new literature.Like old telugu and vernacular telugu which we r now speaking.only tis old versions are in telugu,tamil,sanskrit,kannada. And these languages include their own style of dance,music etc..
Divin Rakesh

New Delhi, India

#227 Oct 20, 2014
kathir wrote:
<quoted text>
You can read books from the library written by Indologists and Anthropolpgists... Kamil Zvelebil is a good start... Sounds or lack of a few phonetics is not even a criteria as some bigots say.. They still use English with only 26 characters...
New words are formed using a classical root.. That is how a language becomes modern... For example neer is liquid/water. patha_neer is conditioned water.. theLi_neer-clear water...
neer_aavi -water vapor... neer_iyangkiyal- hydrodyanamics..neer_aadu-take bath (verb)
. one can write 100s of words in Tamil with the old root neer.. If you venture to do that in Malayalam... it has to come back to its base in Tamil... One can resist and borrow or anglicize words call it television as opposed to tholaik_kaatchi or use Skt dhoor_dharshan....
Tamil (Dravidian) is Agglutinate language with proper grammar for forming newer words... phone-pEsi
telephone tholai_pEsi....micro_phone... nuN_pEsi
oottu=feed... feedpoint of an antenna=antennaavin oottap_puLLi...
oottach_chaththu : nutrient
paal_ootti : mammal (that feed their babies with milk)
muL-thorn... Porcupine... muLLam_panRi... Literally thorned_pig
ponthu -slot....Time slot.... nErap_ponthu
moolam-source... Electric source min_moolam
sound=oli; kEL-listen....audio= a sound that you can listen to: kEt_poli... audio_amplifier.. kEt_poli_perukki
perukki-amplifier, alaivi-oscillator.. transmitter-anuppi ; receiver-ERpi
Tamil word multiple is pala->pal or pan attaches to other Tamil words to form
Multiple Access pan_aNukal..... Multiple Access Technique pan_aNukal nutpam..
Triode- mum_munaiyam.... moonu is three in all Dravidian languages...
Duplex ---iru_vazhi
Duplexer-iru_vazhi_yaakki.... Look how we can easily form words and translate with meanings intact....
I neither know Tamil nor Malayalam....so the phonetics does not enter my head.. If you wish to explain some points then you may put forward some reasonable historical facts...which will help me research over this topic more....

One thing I know about Tamil is that it is proto-dravidic language not an austro-asiatic language...so it is for sure that it is the first one of its kind...
siva

Europe

#228 Oct 21, 2014
Hey Vamsi, Dont talk about tamilans. Tamil is an ancient language. If you dont know about Tamil language, just shut ur mouth and ash.

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