Opinion: Why Fort Hood Really Happened

Close OPINION: WONDER LAND NOVEMBER 12, 2009, 2:45 P.M. ET In war, uncertainty gets you killed.

[Cae]

Operation VVetback II - 2010'

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[Cae]

Mexicanos,Neqros,Hispanics,Lat inos,Muslims

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DO NOT BELONG IN THE USA

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THE ONLY GOOD ONE IS A DE@D ONE

[Cae]

csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

[Cae]

DEPORT!! all the VVETBAX!!

[Librahoppa]

Cae....lay off the booze you jerk! This guy is NOT a Mexican, he was raised here in America. His family is from the middle-east.

[hotep]

Cae wrote:

Mexicanos,Neqros,Hispanics,Lat inos,Muslims
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DO NOT BELONG IN THE USA
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THE ONLY GOOD ONE IS A DE@D ONE

So what are you???If you not native to this land you dont belong here either

Your time is up.Its time to go back to your cave and freeze you mutant human being recessive albino

[Come on]

There is something more to this than just him being of a different religion or his background alone.

"Before Oct. 16, 1991, the Central Texas town of Killeen was perhaps best known for its proximity to the Army base at Fort Hood, and Luby's was known only regionally as a popular cafeteria chain.

But on that day, both came to be linked to what was then the worst mass murder in U.S. history.

At 12:45 p.m., 35-year-old George Hennard of nearby Belton drove his pickup truck through a window at the Killeen Luby's and killed 24 people."

24 people dies, he was a former soldier and was upset about Clarence Thomas hearings, didn't like women and various other things said after he committed that act.

Plus 76 suicides at that base since 2003.

There has been more than one murder/suicide.

Sep 12, 2008 5:55:53 EDT

"KILLEEN, Texas — The dispute that led a Fort Hood soldier to kill his lieutenant and then himself may have been sparked by missing military equipment.

Killeen police said Tuesday that 24-year-old Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher of Jensen Beach, Fla., had gone with a staff sergeant to talk to a 22-year-old specialist under their command.

The specialist was set to be discharged soon, and some equipment was missing.

Police called to the scene on Monday saw the specialist shoot Fletcher to death before killing himself. The staff sergeant was not injured."

And domestic violence cases that also ended in murder/suicide.

The answer that this one person had different religious beliefs or cultural attitudes is overly simple, it is an easy popular answer but it overlooks a lot. There is something much more serious going on here.

[Librahoppa]

The reason why Fort Hood Happened is because the guy has roots to the middle-east by way of family and religion and fighting them for this rich man's oil war didn't make any sense to him. He probably felt like he could handle being in the military service as a high ranking officer given his profession and the hoity-toity white man told him he's headin off to Iraq to "kill his own kind for a very profitable cause for someone OTHER than him!" and like any reasonable person would do he revolted. Problem is he revolted in a way that only an American can be confused about, nobody else in the world is as confused as the American is, he wasn't confused and neither is ANY muslim. Oil wars for the rich have been fought over there in the middle-east for decades now, the people there are use to seeing the west come in and blow away their children for fun and use "war" as an excuse to justify themselves as well as take over the oil fields, pipelines, exporting etc. part's of the business and have any of you American's ever stopped to ask who exactly is getting the money from slaying these people just to take over they're oil industry? Well....it isn't you or me, nope it's the 20-50 white males running this country into the ground right now that is benefitting from all this, the rest of us just get drained financially and the stupid's who chose to go over there and fight to make someone else rich just get dead! I don't blame this guy for not wanting to do this evil deed, but I do feel he should be executed for killing all those stupid f*cks who don't know any better!!!!

[anyone]

The man is just psychotic who happens to be Muslim

[Xavier]

If u don't like people of other culture deport there inventions to.That includes peanut butter,gun powder,FIRE WORKS,etc.Ur insane Cae.Touch my peanut butter and i will rip off your arms beat u over the head with them and shove them down your throwt.

[Come on]

anyone wrote:

The man is just psychotic who happens to be Muslim

That may be true though his background, beliefs and current circumstances would have all played a role just as the other mass murderer in that same town had a background that led to his hate of blacks, women and general rage.

He deserves to be punished for this act, but the bigger question is whst triggered this and the others, what is going on at that base? To try and politicize this or dismiss it with some glossed over convenient answer is a diservice to everyone especially the people who remain at that base.

[Come on]

If it can be proved that cleric encouraged this act of violence they need to find a way to charge him too.

Inciting people to violent acts even from a pulpit is becoming more dangerous for all of us.

[Xavier]

Come on wrote:

If it can be proved that cleric encouraged this act of violence they need to find a way to charge him too.
Inciting people to violent acts even from a pulpit is becoming more dangerous for all of us.

Just like trying to take my peanut butter

[Librahoppa]

Come on wrote:

If it can be proved that cleric encouraged this act of violence they need to find a way to charge him too.
Inciting people to violent acts even from a pulpit is becoming more dangerous for all of us.

Says who? Look at ANY police department, beating up and killing the mentally ill and kids! Everyone in this Country is learning by example: If it's okay for the police to do it, so can I! Rough Economic times, over-zealous cops and less citizen rights is the breeding ground for these kinds of acts to happen. Don't pretend that its just crazy people doing this kind of thing, look around you. In my state there were 3 murder-suicides in the last week ALL OF THEM DUE TO ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS, NO JOBS ETC. Who to look to?

[Come on]

Xavier wrote:

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Just like trying to take my peanut butter

I don't want your peanut butter but you are so annoyingly stupid I may shove you face in it. It will be an independent act encouraged only by your own behavior.

[Come on]

Librahoppa wrote:

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Says who? Look at ANY police department, beating up and killing the mentally ill and kids! Everyone in this Country is learning by example: If it's okay for the police to do it, so can I! Rough Economic times, over-zealous cops and less citizen rights is the breeding ground for these kinds of acts to happen. Don't pretend that its just crazy people doing this kind of thing, look around you. In my state there were 3 murder-suicides in the last week ALL OF THEM DUE TO ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS, NO JOBS ETC. Who to look to?

I didn't say it was just crazy people. The economy is not the only answer either as some of these acts had no relationship to that such as the man who went off and killed people at the health spa.

I notice that many of the posters on topix seem to be anti-cop and anti-government and even that encourages violent acting out. I am not denying that incidents happen, that cops and others overstep and abuse their authority. All of that is true, but exaggerating it here and in the media causes a skewed perception that benefits no one and encourages those extreme fringes.

Fort Hood has a long history of problems and it is something more than one individuals choices.

[Librahoppa]

Come on wrote:

<quoted text>I didn't say it was just crazy people. The economy is not the only answer either as some of these acts had no relationship to that such as the man who went off and killed people at the health spa.
I notice that many of the posters on topix seem to be anti-cop and anti-government and even that encourages violent acting out. I am not denying that incidents happen, that cops and others overstep and abuse their authority. All of that is true, but exaggerating it here and in the media causes a skewed perception that benefits no one and encourages those extreme fringes.
Fort Hood has a long history of problems and it is something more than one individuals choices.

I do not perceive exaggerated authority abuses, I live and work within a community full of violence by cops and given permission by government officials, I have to deal with their victims! So please don't act like it doesn't exist or that I am anti-government in a way that encourages extreme violence. I do not. In my community the cops DO get overly violent and there are MANY folks working within our local government who point that out through the media a lot. So I am not the only one. I don't speak for everyone who posts on topix, but I think you are seeing posts in a way that encourages "turn a blind eye" attitude. I don't see anti-government sentiment as much as you do on here. As for being anti-cop, you do have a point there. I really have no respect for the majority of them. Most(not all)are not very bright and I take offense to dumbing down the written portion of the test's required by the state to become an officer, as a direct result of they're low IQ's and inability to judge objectively they make fatal decisions out on patrol and they forget things like crazy, it makes my job hard most of the time. They don't take direction well and they are all very egotistical, rude and arrogant to a fault! So yes, I have an anti-cop attitude, but it comes with years of experience working with them!!

[Librahoppa]

One more thing: Cops not only make fatal mistakes on patrol, but it is a direct reflection on how they are trained and deal with the public. If you know about the types of test's they are required to take you would know that these people do not have to have more than a fifth grade reading level. That is no joke! I went over the required test's myself and was horrified to see this, just to make sure I wasn't reading into it, I took it to one of my criminology professors and HE told me that the proficiency test's are in fact at a fifth grade reading level. They lowered it from an eighth grade level about 9 years ago! These cops do NOT fill out they're paperwork in any kind of legible way, full of mistakes and lack objectivity to the point where detectives have to come in to re-write the reports!! It's crazy.

[Mike]

What led a guy to yell "Allah Akbar" and go on a jihad at Ft. Hood?

Well, I'm thinking it had something to do with Isl...(reading a fax from CAIR's lawyers)...uhm, Isl..and. Yes. Iceland. It must have had something to do with Iceland. Damn Icelandish.

[Mike]

hotep wrote:

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Your time is up.Its time to go back to your cave and freeze you mutant human being recessive albino

Only a 2 digit IQ simian would get Neanderthals and Homo sapiens sapiens confused.