The Tunguska Nuclear Event, 1908

The Tunguska Nuclear Event, 1908

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Klink

Willard, MO

#1 Jan 18, 2013

This video: The Lost Archives: The Tunguska Event

www.youtube.com/watch...

The video shows the extensive Russian investigation and explores all theories. Their conclusion? UFO. Russia's official position on Tunguska was that it was caused by a UFO weapon.

I do not believe in UFOs since there is no evidence for this. The Russian investigation found RADIATION at ground zero.

Conclusion:

The Russian Revolution first broke in 1905. After this failed attempt the revolutionaries supported by westerners demonstrated the nuclear device for the Russian Tsar so he would easily abdicate and surrender the Russian empire, which is what happened.

Devious Dude

Southbury, CT

#2 Jan 19, 2013
Later investigations found particles proving it was a comet or bolide.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3 Jan 19, 2013
Klink wrote:
This video: The Lost Archives: The Tunguska Event
www.youtube.com/watch...
The video shows the extensive Russian investigation and explores all theories. Their conclusion? UFO. Russia's official position on Tunguska was that it was caused by a UFO weapon.
I do not believe in UFOs since there is no evidence for this. The Russian investigation found RADIATION at ground zero.
Conclusion:
The Russian Revolution first broke in 1905. After this failed attempt the revolutionaries supported by westerners demonstrated the nuclear device for the Russian Tsar so he would easily abdicate and surrender the Russian empire, which is what happened.
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Klink, actually, an "uprising" broke out in Russia back in 1905. It WASN'T a "revolution".

I don't agree with your "claim" or "theory" that Russian revolutionaries detonated an atomic device back as early as 1908.

Because of these factors.---- 1. Russian rebels would have had way LESS access to the very critical materials which were necessary towards building an atomic bomb. Compared to the Russian government.

2. Had these so-called Russian rebels had detonated an atomic bomb back as early as 1908.--- The Russian rebels would have forced the Russian Tsar Nicholas II to cede power. Very soon after the Russian rebels achieved the breakthrough in technology with this atomic device.

But, Tsar Nicholas II was overthrown many years after the explosion at Tunguska.

3. Russia fighting on the Allied side throughout World War I. From 1914 till 1917.

Had these so-called Russian rebels achieved a breakthrough with creating an atomic bomb back as early as 1908.---- Russia would have had atomic bombs BEFORE the outbreak of World War I.

Right from the start of World War I, the Russian government would have threatened the governments of Germany, Austria-Hungary & the Ottoman Empire with nuclear annihilation.

So, I don't agree with your "claim" or "theory" that the Russian revolutionaries detonated an atomic device as early as 1908.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#4 Jan 19, 2013
Devious Dude wrote:
Later investigations found particles proving it was a comet or bolide.
__________

Correct.

What are the chances that the Russian government of 1908 had the knowledge to build an atomic device back then?--- None.

What are the chances that the Russian "revolutionaries" who were based in Siberia had the knowledge to build an atomic device as early as 1908?--- None.

Even more so, what are the chances that Russian "revolutionaries" who were based in Siberia had the access to critical raw materials which were necessary to build an atomic device as early as 1908?--- None.
Klink

Willard, MO

#5 Jan 19, 2013
Devious Dude wrote:
Later investigations found particles proving it was a comet or bolide.


Nope, that was ruled out since no particles were found, as the video shows.
Klink

Willard, MO

#6 Jan 19, 2013
Johnny wrote:
Klink, actually, an "uprising" broke out in Russia back in 1905. It WASN'T a "revolution".
I don't agree with your "claim" or "theory" that Russian revolutionaries detonated an atomic device back as early as 1908.
Because of these factors.---- 1. Russian rebels would have had way LESS access to the very critical materials which were necessary towards building an atomic bomb. Compared to the Russian government.
2. Had these so-called Russian rebels had detonated an atomic bomb back as early as 1908.--- The Russian rebels would have forced the Russian Tsar Nicholas II to cede power. Very soon after the Russian rebels achieved the breakthrough in technology with this atomic device.
But, Tsar Nicholas II was overthrown many years after the explosion at Tunguska.
3. Russia fighting on the Allied side throughout World War I. From 1914 till 1917.
Had these so-called Russian rebels achieved a breakthrough with creating an atomic bomb back as early as 1908.---- Russia would have had atomic bombs BEFORE the outbreak of World War I.
Right from the start of World War I, the Russian government would have threatened the governments of Germany, Austria-Hungary & the Ottoman Empire with nuclear annihilation.
So, I don't agree with your "claim" or "theory" that the Russian revolutionaries detonated an atomic device as early as 1908.


The revolution went from 05 to 07 according to wikipedia. I wasnt there. Tunguska was then in 1908.

Following the explosion, i dont know why it took until 1917 to finally replace the Tsar but maybe he allowed them in earlier. They unseated him very fast only possible if he was in on it. The following civil war is what lasted several years.

As I said westerners supported the Revolution. They would be the ones with the bomb then supplied to the revolution.

Supposedly there was no bomb before 1945 used on Japan. But if one was used in Russia then this means the world powers possessed the weapon earlier. It was only used on Japan 1) to destroy civilian cities of Christian Japanese and 2) create the cold war. Washington also gave the nuke to Russia at this time through Lend Lease. With the cold war there was no peace following ww2. There was continued military buildup and state of emergency rule.

Anyway there is radiation at Tunguska according to the report. It was not a UFO as they are claiming. Maybe it was related to the revolution, i dont know.

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#7 Jan 19, 2013
Here's a theory that you may not have heard, the Tunguska event as the result of a misfiring of the world's first particle beam weapon. Shortly after the turn of the century, increasingly crazy genius Nicola Tesla, built a wireless power transmitter theoretically capable of generating 100 billion watts electricity at Wardenclyffe, Long Island, NY, ostensibly to transmit radio signals and electricity wirelessly. Tesla also saw another potential use for his technology, as a weapon, if that 100 billion watts of power could all be directed at a single location, you could blast it off the face of the earth. Tunguska coincided with Admiral Robert Peary's expedition to the North Pole. Before Peary departed Tesla asked him to take notice of any electrical phenomenon he was to observe over the pole. It's believed he intended to fire what he called his "peace ray" for a detonation in the atmosphere over the pole and miscalculated. After his death, all of Tesla's papers were classified for decades and a lot was "lost" including much about what he actually achieved at Wardenclyffe, which was demolished by the government.
Klink

Willard, MO

#8 Jan 19, 2013
Hellooo Rick in Ks, I actually have read about that theory before

www.reformation.org/tesla-and-tunguska.html

Problem is I believe you will find Tesla's tower was not a projector rather a power collector. The project was to collect enuff power from the aether to power a nearby city then smaller collectors would be placed on houses.

Of course Tesla had other weapons but there's the problem of the radiation. It's an interesting vid in the OP no matter what happened. I believe they looked into Tesla if I remember.
Devious Dude

Southbury, CT

#9 Jan 20, 2013
Knock off purse seller

Denver, CO

#10 Jan 21, 2013
http://www.teslasociety.com/tunguska.htm

This makes more sense.

UFOs visiting earth is nonsense because they would not travel billions of light years just to hover a short while and then leave...unless they're drunk of course.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#11 Feb 23, 2013
Klink, Rick in Kansas & Devious Dude ---- Links of pictures of Nikola Teslas Wardenclyffe Tower.--

http://www.kevreid.com/tesla_wardenclyffe_sma... .

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_te... .

http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/tesla%200... .

http://www.teslaplay.com/images/tower.gif .

I don't know if you guys are aware of the mysterious domes in Yakutia, Siberia.

If you are not aware of them, here's a link about them.---

http://hight3ch.com/mysterious-domes-in-siber... .
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#12 Feb 23, 2013
Knock off purse seller wrote:
UFOs visiting earth is nonsense because they would not travel billions of light years just to hover a short while and then leave.
__________

Well, there are at least 4.5 BILLION earth like planets in the Galaxy.

The Milky Way Galaxy ALONE may have as many as 4.5 BILLION earthlike planets. Some of these earthlike planets are within a close distance of earth.

As interstellar gulfs go, within 13 light-years.

So, with there being billions & billions of galaxies out there in the universe.--- There must be life out there. Probably intelligent life too.

It's highly doubtful that planet earth is the only life form in the universe.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#13 Feb 23, 2013
Klink --- How's it going? Sorry about the delay with getting back to you. Always a pleasure blogging with you.

You said "The revolution went from 05 to 07".--- Correct.

You said "Tunguska was then in 1908".--- True.

You said "Following the explosion, i don't know why it took until 1917 to finally replace the Tsar but maybe he allowed them in earlier".--- I don't see this.

You said "They unseated him very fast".--- The real buildup & momentum for unseating Russias former Tsar Nicholas II really began after the Russian army started receiving very bad setbacks on the battlefield. At the very start of World War 1.

If first started with the Russian army suffering very bad reversals against the German army. In the First Battle of the Masurian Lakes.

Then, following the setbacks of the Russian army in the Battle of Tannenberg.

After the Battle of Tannenberg, mass disillusionment within Russia (Especially within Russias western border regions) really began to escalate against Tsar Nicholas II.

From the early autumn, 1914 till early, 1917, support for Tsar Nicholas II greatly dissipated.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#14 Feb 23, 2013
Klink --- You said "As I said westerners supported the Revolution".--- With all due respect, I don't see this at all.

This is why.--- From 1914 till 1917, within the Allied nations of the United Kingdom (UK), France & Italy.--- The political Right wing as well as even the political left wing in the UK, France & Italy did NOT want Tsar Nicholas II overthrown.

Because if Tsar Nicholas II would be overthrown, this would definitely mean that Russias new left wing, communist government would seek out a separate armistice. A separate peace deal with the Central Powers of the German Empire, Austria-Hungary & the Ottoman Empire.

This is exactly what Russias left wing, communist government which was headed by Vladimir Lenin did. Lenin, via using his main adviser & cohort, Leon Trotsky concluded the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk with Germany, Austria-Hungary & the Ottoman Empire.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#15 Feb 23, 2013


Klink --- You said "westerners would be the ones with the bomb then supplied to the revolution".---Even "if" certain westerners had the atomic bomb back as early as 1917.--- Would these westerners give such a very ADVANCED & LETHAL weapon such as an atomic bomb over to Russian revolutionaries?

Especially considering that from 1914 till 1917, the ideological factions in power in western european nations were on the political Right wing.

So, would these Right wing factions who were in power in the main western nations?--- Would they hand over such a very ADVANCED & very LETHAL weapon such as an atomic bomb over to the radical left wing, communist faction in Russia?

I just don't see this happening.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#16 Feb 23, 2013
Klink ---- Your last points to me here.--- You said "Washington also gave the nuke to Russia at this time through Lend Lease".--- I disagree.

When World War 2 was raging on, the United States (US) had the presidency of Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR). FDR, ideologically, was center to mildly left wing. FDR was NOT radical left wing.

So, had the United States (US) had atomic bombs from say from around March, 1941 till early, 1945.--- I just don't see FDR giving the go-ahead for the US federal government to give the Soviet Unions left wing, communist dictatorship such a very advanced & very lethal weapons system. With atomic bombs.

Klink here are some other factors, which point towards the US, the United Kingdom (UK) & France NOT having any atomic bombs throughout the 1930s.---

Had the US, the UK & France had atomic bombs throughout the 1930s.--- Why then didn't the governments of the US, the UK & France threaten Germanys Nazi government, Japans Fascist regime & Italys Fascist government?

To contain Nazi Germany, Imperial Fascist Japan & Fascist Italy as early as the late 1930s?

Most of all, to PREVENT the outbreak of World War 2 from happening. A world war which ended up claiming at least 60 million lives.

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