Would a Somali girl marry a non-Somali man in London?

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#1 Dec 2, 2013
I live in London (UK) where there is a large Somali community.
I found most Somali girls extraordinarily beautiful. I am not a Somali...I wonder if a a Somali girl would marry a non-Somali man over here...
Some Somali girls apparently do marry outside their communities, although it is evident that most do not.
I am not Muslim but I don`t think being a Christian would stop me from being a good husband for a Somali girl who is from a Muslim family.(If she was Christian, that would make things easier, but unfortunately Christian Somalis seem to be nonexistent in this part of the world.)
I am trying to learn Somali, too.
Is there any realistic chance for this kind of marriage to happen in London?

Thank you. Mahadsanid.
Selma

UK

#2 Dec 3, 2013
I am not Muslim but I don`t think being a Christian would stop me from being a good husband for a Somali girl who is from a Muslim family.

Islamic scholars generally forbid Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men. Simple as that.
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Tahuya, WA

#3 Dec 25, 2013
Selma wrote:
I am not Muslim but I don`t think being a Christian would stop me from being a good husband for a Somali girl who is from a Muslim family.
Islamic scholars generally forbid Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men. Simple as that.
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Sybian Princess

Portland, OR

#4 Dec 25, 2013
I just find it tragic that anyone, anywhere, lives in a society where it would matter where the person you want to marry, is from. because it DOES NOT MATTER except in the minds of others around you, and since it should be none of their business marry whomever you want! If your society won't allow that, then move to another place/country. And if it's your religion that won't allow it, then move to a new religion!
Annonymous

Djibouti

#5 Feb 21, 2014
Firstly, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a non Muslim. I had recently listened to a lecture and it was talking about a Muslim woman and a non Muslim man who were married and how they constantly argued about religious differences which then had left them of making the decision of having a divorce. To get to the point you would have to convert in to Islam to marry a Muslim woman
P.s very interesting that your learning somali.
Ace

London, UK

#6 Feb 21, 2014
I'm a white English man in London married to a Somali woman.
She's not the most religious or traditional by any means, very westernized, lived here since she was 9, but even so the marriage is only possible because I have become muslim.

The chances of a Somali girl openly marrying a Christian male in a place like London are almost nil, because as has been mentioned muslim girls cannot marry Christians, and the Somali community is VERY religious, even if individual Somalis are not always.

Ethiopians are Christian. Maybe 50% of Eritreans too.

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#7 Mar 11, 2014
Ace wrote:
I'm a white English man in London married to a Somali woman.
She's not the most religious or traditional by any means, very westernized, lived here since she was 9, but even so the marriage is only possible because I have become muslim.
The chances of a Somali girl openly marrying a Christian male in a place like London are almost nil, because as has been mentioned muslim girls cannot marry Christians, and the Somali community is VERY religious, even if individual Somalis are not always.
Ethiopians are Christian. Maybe 50% of Eritreans too.
@Ace
You can change our mobile phone provider, but I don`t think you should change your religion. You are not the only one who became a Muslim just for a sake of marrying a beautiful Somali lady. I have seen some White converts (Italians, Argentinians, Poles etc) who converted to Islam just to be able to marry a Somali lady. The reasons behind their acts were so visible,so evident... I don`t even know how the Somali ladies` parents didn`t see it.
Nevertheless, at some point when I met a young Somali lady .She was living in other part of the UK with her family), I was tempted to do the same. But I resisted. She didn`t want to leave her city to marry me here, where no Somali knowed her, and I didn`t want to convert to Islam. She could have started a completely new life with me, but she was too scared to be disowned by her parents for marrying me, a non-Somali, non-Muslim man. It was some of the most painful things in my life, but I got over it.
It is ok if you are happy with your wife now...But how will you look into the mirror in the future?(You changed your religion just for a sake of marrying someone. If you check your religion, it says clearly: this kind of conversion is not accepted by Allah, thus you will end up in hell at the end. Check the relevant Hadith, if you have time. And more importantly: what will happen if you find out Islam isn`t for you? At that point it is not only your life that you screwed up, but pretty much your wife`s and (if you have ) your children`s lives. I thought all of this...and decided not to convert.
If you are a rich Englishman and she is from a poor Somali family then things seem to work out for you and your wifea while...but maybe not forever.
Nevertheless, thanks for bothering to answer and I wish you and your wife all the best.
Peace.

Since: Apr 13

Scappoose, Oregon USA

#8 Mar 11, 2014
This issue doesn't affect me personally (thank goodness) I just continually find it strange and tragic, that religion any religion can so much effect how people live their lives when morality isn't involved. IMHO people confuse religion, with God. I saw it posted someplace else and really struck me, that; God is God but religion is man. Religions-all religions-were originally made up by somebody, as a way to try and explain the creator Deity which we couldn't (and still don't) understand. I guess I feel that having no religion, is better than having the wrong religion. Having a particular religion is a choice, and you can change it if it's messing up your life. Wow, I can't wait to see the negative hate judgits I get for this one! LOL :-)

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#9 Mar 12, 2014
Jenji wrote:
This issue doesn't affect me personally (thank goodness) I just continually find it strange and tragic, that religion any religion can so much effect how people live their lives when morality isn't involved. IMHO people confuse religion, with God. I saw it posted someplace else and really struck me, that; God is God but religion is man. Religions-all religions-were originally made up by somebody, as a way to try and explain the creator Deity which we couldn't (and still don't) understand. I guess I feel that having no religion, is better than having the wrong religion. Having a particular religion is a choice, and you can change it if it's messing up your life. Wow, I can't wait to see the negative hate judgits I get for this one! LOL :-)
@Jenji
You said exactly what I have been thinking for quiet a while. Despite coming from a Christian background I don`t see myself as a fanatic Christian. I rather see myself as someone who believes in God and tryies to a decent person, treat people as I would expect to be treated by them. If you call it deism or humanism, then let be it. I would rather say I have a personal faith.
When I was a love with Somali girl I didn`t convert to Islam despite that might have meant a realistic chance to marry her. In fact, she asked me not to convert to Islam, because she didn`t want my personality to change. Embracing a faith that you not fully agree is a dangerous thing and might lead not only to unhappyness but also (if marriage is involved) a lots of trouble. All religions are man-made - that is the truth. Some of them might be better than others, but they are all man-made. Sadly, religions -especially Islam - divide people instead for uniting them. I learned it a hard way. All religions should allow their followers to leave the religion, if they wish so. Islam is probably is probably the only religion that doesn`t allow it yet.
Somali parents insisting that their daughters only marry committed Muslim men is very hipocritic. I have seen Muslim Somali couples getting divorced. Being a Muslim doesn`t mean that you are a saint. There are Muslim men (Somali or non-Somali) who secretly drink alcohol, watch porn or even cheat on their wives - you would be surprise how many do so. London is 25% Muslim, I saw it all happening around here.
Bigotry, hipocrisy and lack of basic human feeling disguised in some kind of fake religious commitment have always irritated me - whether it comes from Muslims or not. In my case it came from Muslim (otherwise divorced) mother who would rather disown her Somali daughter than allow her to marry a man who her daughter loved and who was ready to make almost any sacrifice - apart from converting to a religion that didn`t make sense to him.(Was I naive? Maybe a bit. Was I am in love? Of course I was.) She tried to convince her daughter that all non-Muslim men are alcoholic, drug-using, cheating, promiscous, woman-beating animals who just want to sleep with Muslim women and then left them behind. She didn`t bother herself by the fact that I was exactly the opposite: I never drank alcohol or used drugs, I was faithful to her, treated her with respect and was deeply interested in her personality, thoughts and feelings. I encouraged her to be upfront and introduce me to her mum and family. Not because of fear, but because of the respect I felt for her and her family..
It irritates me because it happened to me. But I am very sure it much more common than it seems to be.
My message is not fuelled by anger. It is fuelled by a bitter experience that still often makes me a bit sad.

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#10 Mar 13, 2014
Somali people, for your own sake, please stop following Islam. You deserve better than that. Islam creates hatred, racism and segregation. And as far as I can see it is the source of most problems Somalia has been facing in the last 25 years. It is not khat-chewing, rival warlords, tribal differences or powerty...it is Islam.

You are better people without Islam. If you want to choose a faith, Whether is Christianity, Buddhism, Agnosticism, Atheism, whatever...almost anything is better than the phoney religion that most of you are currently embracing. Even better if you just be yourself. You are generally good people, despite how the Western media portraits you.

I hope one day most Somalis will reject this insanity called Islam. It is probably not going to happen in my lifetime, but is going to happen sooner or later.
Ayan

London, UK

#11 Sunday Aug 31
LMH1983 wrote:
I live in London (UK) where there is a large Somali community.
I found most Somali girls extraordinarily beautiful. I am not a Somali...I wonder if a a Somali girl would marry a non-Somali man over here...
Some Somali girls apparently do marry outside their communities, although it is evident that most do not.
I am not Muslim but I don`t think being a Christian would stop me from being a good husband for a Somali girl who is from a Muslim family.(If she was Christian, that would make things easier, but unfortunately Christian Somalis seem to be nonexistent in this part of the world.)
I am trying to learn Somali, too.
Is there any realistic chance for this kind of marriage to happen in London?
Thank you. Mahadsanid.
I think as a somali women who is open to dating outside her race that it is not possible for you to find a somali women that would marry a Christian man. Islam is embedded in our culture it is not something that can easily be ignored. How do you expect to raise children with a muslim mum and a Christian father, it makes no sense to me. So you either have to convert to islam which would increase your chances of marrying a somali women by 70% or forget about it. I don't want to sound harsh but our religion is the most important thing in our lives.

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