Media Bias on the Zimmerman, Martin Case
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#746 Jul 7, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Unless you were some kind of mommy's boy and like the rest of us, your parents didn't know what you were up to. That is not a defense, that is a rebuttal to your comment.
Well its typical you are attempting to spin it to fit the framework of your argument, but the reality is...if he was the nice loving little boy that the lame stream media and all the black leaders tried to portray, then why was it no one cared that he was missing for 2 to 3 days, and his girlfriend never told anyone that a mystery "crazy ass cracker" forced that little lad to say "get off get off" and the line went dead.

Yeah I think there are a lot of holes in the whole "innocent little kid" routine you ding-dongs are trying to spew!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#747 Jul 7, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Unless you understand the black community, then you are clueless about the mindset of the gang-banger!
Secondly, unless you are in total denial and/or daft, you are a fool if you think crime is not more prevalent in black urban communities than anywhere else. Be it a socioeconomic or other factors, the numbers do not lie!
Regardless, you want so dearly to pin anyone a racist that doesn't agree with you, which is pretty weak of you and your ability to debate! I am sure you will misconstrue the statistically accurate observations I made as racist as well....just remember, I (unlike you) do not use the "N" word nor do I say the derogatory word "NEGRO" as you out of touch old timers do, relative to describing race. Even after it was explained to you that it is offensive, your retort was "its a word, so what"...yeah a word that is offensive when used in the manner you morons use it!
But hey, you don't care about anything but what you think you know!
The reality...you live in a nice community, and most people look at where you live as a vacation location close to Fisherman's Wharf and such.
You live an HOUR AWAY FROM Stockton, Oakland and Richmond? Yeah ok whatever bro...keep stretching it! lol
"Zimmerman types"? What is that supposed to mean?
The tone in your words seems a bit racial, as though you may have a bit of bias going on.
The crime stats look pretty bad there in the ole urban streets of "Elk Grove CA". hahahahahaha
How do you know so much about Black neighborhoods? Yes I live 5 minutes from Sacramento and yes an hour to those other cities i mentioned. Live in a mix of all races. Poor you.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#748 Jul 7, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Well its typical you are attempting to spin it to fit the framework of your argument, but the reality is...if he was the nice loving little boy that the lame stream media and all the black leaders tried to portray, then why was it no one cared that he was missing for 2 to 3 days, and his girlfriend never told anyone that a mystery "crazy ass cracker" forced that little lad to say "get off get off" and the line went dead.
Yeah I think there are a lot of holes in the whole "innocent little kid" routine you ding-dongs are trying to spew!
it's nothing to do with how nice or innocent he was, he didn't deserve to die.
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#749 Jul 7, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>it's nothing to do with how nice or innocent he was, he didn't deserve to die.
Agreed!

No one deserves to die...but the consequences of his actions caused his untimely death!

Pointing out Martins history, the nature of his family and home element, his background...ALL play to the mindset of how he thought, how he reacted, and what really happened!

But please...don't let something like facts and circumstantial/character evidence get in the way!

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#750 Jul 7, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Well its typical you are attempting to spin it to fit the framework of your argument, but the reality is...if he was the nice loving little boy that the lame stream media and all the black leaders tried to portray, then why was it no one cared that he was missing for 2 to 3 days, and his girlfriend never told anyone that a mystery "crazy ass cracker" forced that little lad to say "get off get off" and the line went dead.
Yeah I think there are a lot of holes in the whole "innocent little kid" routine you ding-dongs are trying to spew!
OK. Time to offer up some proof of your claim that nobody reported him missing for 2-3 days.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#751 Jul 7, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed!
No one deserves to die...but the consequences of his actions caused his untimely death!
Pointing out Martins history, the nature of his family and home element, his background...ALL play to the mindset of how he thought, how he reacted, and what really happened!
But please...don't let something like facts and circumstantial/character evidence get in the way!
I agree, the consequences of his actions caused his untimely death in this case. That doesn't mean he did anything wrong, which he didn't. The fat cop wannabe's actions caused the death of the young man. His bad decision to take matters in his own hands. Martin's history and his family had nothing to do with a person playing cop with a loaded gun. Still waiting for you to point out a similar case with the races being different and your explanation on how you are an expert of the streets? Are you a copper? I hope to God that you aren't. We have enough gun happy cops out there.

crucifiedguy

“atheism is knowing the bible ”

Since: Jan 09

fictional hell

#752 Jul 7, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Nice rant, but that's all it was again. I doubt your parents knew where you were and what you were doing all time when you were that age, stop blaming the parents. Once again TM was NOT breaking any laws. What's funny is the fact that your hero's are fat white gun toting cop wannabe's. I bet next time Zman might take advice of others and not act like a fool. Plus he got his taste of killing a black kid. He's done that. Next.
And your hero's are dead street thugs that fucked with the wrong man. I would shoot anyone that attacked me also. And If I shoot someone it ain't gonna be in the leg it would damn sure be to kill the thug that attacked me!!!!
Don't you know anything if you only wound a thug / gang member it makes you an open target and you gotta shoot all of them because they are to stupid to realize what they do is against the law!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#753 Jul 7, 2013
crucifiedguy wrote:
<quoted text>
And your hero's are dead street thugs that fucked with the wrong man. I would shoot anyone that attacked me also. And If I shoot someone it ain't gonna be in the leg it would damn sure be to kill the thug that attacked me!!!!
Don't you know anything if you only wound a thug / gang member it makes you an open target and you gotta shoot all of them because they are to stupid to realize what they do is against the law!
No my hero's were the cops that would have straightened out both the kid and the fat wannabe cop. That's why I pay taxes. Would you shoot someone that you followed around? What's funny is the fact that mall cops are your hero's.

crucifiedguy

“atheism is knowing the bible ”

Since: Jan 09

fictional hell

#754 Jul 8, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>No my hero's were the cops that would have straightened out both the kid and the fat wannabe cop. That's why I pay taxes. Would you shoot someone that you followed around? What's funny is the fact that mall cops are your hero's.
NO my hero's are the founding fathers of this great country we live in . You know the ones that gave us the constitution? Yes the same ones of which wrote in that very same constitution about the number 2 amendment. The right to carry and protect person , property, and family . The use of deadly force is a given with this inalienable right( No I'm not being racist , dick)don't you think ?
THIS IS WHY I PAY TAXES.
LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
We should band together and support it because the government is slowly eating away at it . Look up the NDAA bill and tell me what scares you .
TheRealDeal

Detroit, MI

#755 Jul 8, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>\Folks are just tired of your senseless rambling....
- Get use to it, little coward: it's clear to all that Judge Dredd, your hero and wannabe cop has committed premeditated/cold-blooded murder; he's gonna pay!
Judge Dredd? Isn't that yet another outdated out modded irrelevant movie from a lot of years ago? You are so out of touch, but so hooked on Hollywood AND television! lol

Wait...premeditated cold blooded murder??? Hey stupid...that's first degree murder, which again shows you are a nut, you have no concept of the law, no understnding what is going on in this case, and clearly struggle reality in general! LMFAO

THIS IS TOO EASY FOLKS...discrediting you nuts is not a challenge!
It almost feels like picking on retards, although I think retards may out "IQ" some of you! roflmfao
TheRealDeal

Detroit, MI

#756 Jul 8, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, the consequences of his actions caused his untimely death in this case. That doesn't mean he did anything wrong, which he didn't.
Again....I agree with you!(its getting scary lol)

Here is where we differ, while you say he did nothing, others say he was acting in a manner that would draw reasonable attention to a concerned citizen in a place where a rash of breaks-ins had occurred recently.

Martin was unknown there, he was a visitor, it was dark, raining, and he was not just passing through but acting suspiciously by stopping and looking at or in the homes where he didn't live.

Any reasonable person, would be concerned given the crime that had been plagued at this location.

And while you say Martin did nothing wrong, assuming you mean up to the altercation, I say that Zimmerman likewise did nothing wrong and did exactly what he was supposed to do in his capacity.

Zimmerman in his capacity as neighborhood watch had been responsible for the capturing of 2 to 3 other thugs that had committed crimes there, so it wasn't his first day at the rodeo, and he didn't kill them.

Again, if Martin had gotten to the gun first, you people here would have never heard about this case.

You and the others have clearly been biased by the the lame-stream-media and the so-called black leaders that made this a so-called "black white" thing.

Its pathetic how easily people can be swayed by some fast talking garbage slinging fool on tv, and totally lose the ability to apply any critical thought process.

Then again, you guys likely believed the media portrayed this accurately all along?
TheRealDeal

Detroit, MI

#757 Jul 8, 2013
crucifiedguy wrote:
<quoted text>
And your hero's are dead street thugs that fucked with the wrong man. I would shoot anyone that attacked me also. And If I shoot someone it ain't gonna be in the leg it would damn sure be to kill the thug that attacked me!!!!
Don't you know anything if you only wound a thug / gang member it makes you an open target and you gotta shoot all of them because they are to stupid to realize what they do is against the law!
They teach to shoot center of mass!

The reason...the adrenaline of someone who is coming at you with the intent to commit grave bodily damage isn't going to stop with a flesh wound or at the sound of the gun. Small caliber weapons often prove to be ineffective against a perpetrator if they are high on something and have their adrenaline pumping.

There have been cases where several rounds (meaning more than 10)of small caliber ammunition have been pumped into a thug who was hyped on adrenaline and drugs, and he was still coming at police in a highly dangerous manner.

Zimmerman did the right thing!
TheRealDeal

Detroit, MI

#758 Jul 8, 2013
crucifiedguy wrote:
<quoted text>
NO my hero's are the founding fathers of this great country we live in . You know the ones that gave us the constitution? Yes the same ones of which wrote in that very same constitution about the number 2 amendment. The right to carry and protect person , property, and family . The use of deadly force is a given with this inalienable right( No I'm not being racist , dick)don't you think ?
THIS IS WHY I PAY TAXES.
LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
We should band together and support it because the government is slowly eating away at it . Look up the NDAA bill and tell me what scares you .
GREAT POST!

Its funny they keep calling Zimmerman a fat wannabe cop, and a mall cop?
Hmmm, he volunteers his own time to help his community, and people like them make fun of him.

Wonder what these idiots do to help in their community...oh that's right, they are tree-hugging anti-gun types who desire to take away peoples rights!

The best part is, these foolish out of touch nimrods keep calling Zimmerman fat mall cop or whatever (another misrepresentation by the pro thug side) but the reality is he was only 194lbs at the time (only 30 lbs more than Martin), and about 3 - 7 inches shorter than Martin.

I guess when you have no real argument and facts, you make stuff up!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#759 Jul 8, 2013
crucifiedguy wrote:
<quoted text>
NO my hero's are the founding fathers of this great country we live in . You know the ones that gave us the constitution? Yes the same ones of which wrote in that very same constitution about the number 2 amendment. The right to carry and protect person , property, and family . The use of deadly force is a given with this inalienable right( No I'm not being racist , dick)don't you think ?
THIS IS WHY I PAY TAXES.
LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
We should band together and support it because the government is slowly eating away at it . Look up the NDAA bill and tell me what scares you .
I do too, but the mall cop wannabe was not protecting anything by killing a kid that was only walking in his neighborhood. You mad bro?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#760 Jul 8, 2013
Zimmerman thought his neighborhood was threatened by Martin because of Martin’s skin color.

People have a tendency to want to believe that young black men are growing up in these urban neighborhoods to be violent. And that is absolutely not the case. They want to make it appear Trayvon Martin comes in a broken home and that he lacks parental guidance and youthful guidance and therefore, was more apt to be the aggressor in the situation with Mr. Zimmerman, without any evidence to support that inference.

How many neighbors have stood up for Zimmerman? How many neighbors have taken the stand for Z?
TheRealDeal

Macomb, MI

#761 Jul 8, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I do too, but the mall cop wannabe was not protecting anything by killing a kid that was only walking in his neighborhood. You mad bro?
Yeah he was...he was protecting his own life!
You blind bro?

crucifiedguy

“atheism is knowing the bible ”

Since: Jan 09

fictional hell

#762 Jul 8, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I do too, but the mall cop wannabe was not protecting anything by killing a kid that was only walking in his neighborhood. You mad bro?
Hell yes I'm mad !! Not at anyone in particular unless they are in congress and support the ndaa bill. Mad at anyone on this thread ? That would be silly no one has ever done anything to make me mad .
Words are only words and cannot hurt me unless I get hit with a book or they are taking my liberties away!
But thanks for asking ....:)
TheRealDeal

Macomb, MI

#763 Jul 8, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
Zimmerman thought his neighborhood was threatened by Martin because of Martin’s skin color.
WRONG...it was because a stranger was lurking about in a neighborhood at night in the rain where he had no business being.
RiccardoFire wrote:
People have a tendency to want to believe that young black men are growing up in these urban neighborhoods to be violent.
And that is absolutely not the case.
WRONG AGAIN...no one is talking about urban kids in general, but now that you mention it, young men that grow up in "urban" areas have a propensity to violent behaviors.
The interesting thing is that Zimmerman had no idea what background Martin had or what kind of neighborhood he was from, just that he was lurking about in the dark.
RiccardoFire wrote:
They want to make it appear Trayvon Martin comes in a broken home and that he lacks parental guidance and youthful guidance and therefore, was more apt to be the aggressor in the situation with Mr. Zimmerman, without any evidence to support that inference.
WRONG YET AGAIN...Martins home WAS a broken home...mom and dad divorced, mom kicked Martin out due to behavioral and other issues, dad was living with girlfriend (dysfunctional for sure). On top of that it took a couple of days before anyone filed a missing persons report.
And ON TOP OF THAT...there have been several photos tweets and other social media postings of Martins that show him with or discussing the use of drugs, weapons, violence etc...

Pictures don't lie captain denial!

Stop grasping...it makes you look really pathetic!
TheRealDeal

Macomb, MI

#764 Jul 8, 2013
People that make this race related...are morons and suffer from some sort of mental retardation!

The media made this racial because it sells...but once they realized it wasn't "black/white" they started making up stuff to "fit" their reporting.

The black leaders made this racial, becasue the likes of Jackson and Sharpton can monitize anything racial.

Bottom line, if you are not making a sleezy buck off the racial side of this...and your still boo-hooing racial shitt...then you are a foolish fear mongering idiot who has your head in the sand, or can't come up with a better argument for your losing position.

Either way....you lose! lmao

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#765 Jul 8, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah he was...he was protecting his own life!
You blind bro?
That would be the same as me packing a loaded gun walking around a bad Black neighborhood and when approached say "i'm just protecting my life, bang bang!" That is a disgrace to gun owners.

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