TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#665 Jul 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Bottom line, Martin deserved to live, we don't live in Islamic Law. Don't start hating on his parents, you have no idea about how he was raised, I've seen bad kids come out of the best homes. But this kid did nothing that should have resulted in a bullet in his heart. Now shut up and let the court decide. Then go back to work.
Islamic law? wtf do you get that nonsense from?
We live under US law, in which we have the right to bear arms AND defend ourselves!
You live a sheltered life, you are confused, delusional or perhaps suffering from dementia, I don't know or care, what I do know is that you are really out of touch with REALITY!!!

Everyone deserves to live UNLESS the they choose a path in which NATURAL CONSEQUENCES dictates something different!

His parents? Well for one, he came from a broken home, secondly he was in continual serious and troublesome situation where he was (poor parenting perhaps?), third he was kicked out of his mothers home...yeah you heard that right, he was ejected from moms as a result of all the troubles he was getting into.

Again...Martins actions and aggressive interaction with Zimmerman, is what the result was of Martins actions!

No one has a right to assault anyone EVER! Zimmerman certainly did nothing that warranted getting pummeled by Martin, and when Zimmereman feared for his life, he protected himself!

Now its time for you to shut your pie hole tree hugging nonsense, you sound like an old fool who is out of touch!
By the way, Id rather be working and busy, than glued to the boob tube pretending to be Perry Mason or Matlock!

Go back to the reruns of the Golden Girls, that is more your speed you silly fool!
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#666 Jul 5, 2013
crucifiedguy wrote:
<quoted text>
Dead thugs supported by illiterate racist morons!!! lmfao!!
Spot on! racist morons or out of control political correctness idiots! lol

Since: Nov 12

Wilton, CA

#667 Jul 5, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Islamic law? wtf do you get that nonsense from?
We live under US law, in which we have the right to bear arms AND defend ourselves!
That's where you need to stop, he wasn't defending himself. He made a choice, a bad one. He didn't have to pursue and follow the kid. He did. If his head was getting smashed in, I doubt he would be able to defend himself like he did. Maybe the old west would paint a better picture then islamic law. We don't live in the bang bang old west. Zimmerman is a disgrace to lawful abiding gun owners. He shows why less people with guns is a good idea.
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#669 Jul 6, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>That's where you need to stop, he wasn't defending himself.
That is where you should have stopped many many posts ago!
He absolutely WAS defending himself, otherwise there would have been testimony that had witnesses seeing Zimmerman with the gun drawn and no injuries would have occurred!
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>He made a choice, a bad one. He didn't have to pursue and follow the kid.
He was not in pursuit of the 6'3" suspicious figure near his home in the gated community on a rainy night, he was observing (absolutely legal and in a free country allowed to do).
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>He did.
He did what any "normal" and reasonable citizen would do who was trying to protect himself and his property against someone believed to have been up to no good, which was to observe his actions to provide info to the police who had been unable to catch the thugs that had been breaking in.
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>If his head was getting smashed in, I doubt he would be able to defend himself like he did.
YOU DOUBT??? Really...YOU DOUBT! Who the freak are you...you doubt. lol
Heck, if you stumbled and fell, I have no doubt you would break a hip...you doubt! lmao
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe the old west would paint a better picture then islamic law.
Old west...have you been in any urban area lately (real urban area). I live a few miles from the heart of the worst part that is Detroit, and I can tell you that for the most part, it is a lawless, scummy, nasty part of the city, that would scare the shiznit out of the wild west!
Actually if Islamic law was automatically applied in Detroit, there would be a lot of one handed people running around.
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>We don't live in the bang bang old west.
Better wake up and smell the coffee. In the "bang bang old west" people could defend themselves. Now the tree hugging politically correct "free to be you and me" morons, defend thugs and criminals, and persecute the victims!
We live in the times where nearly every thug is armed, or close to being armed. Martin was on the path!!!
Need proof. http://nyencore.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/0...
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Zimmerman is a disgrace to lawful abiding gun owners. He shows why less people with guns is a good idea.
You again are a moron living in the "old days" where people respected the law and authority.
People in the hood don't respect the law and authority today, Martin's track record shows that!

What I am starting to see with you, and while you don't come right out and say it at one time, your comments definitely show you as one of those anti-gun freaks...what are you too afraid to say it outright?

Over and over you talk about how legal gun owners believe themselves to be baddasses and "less people with guns is a good idea".

MY ASSESSMENT OF YOU IS...You clearly have an agenda here, and are obviously against the the right to bear arms, its clear you are biased and as mentioned, only using this case/thread as your platform to grandstand and to spew your agenda!

I think less tree hugging wimps who bury their head in the sand when it comes to reality, and who attempt to protect the criminals and ignore the victims, IS A GOOD IDEA!

YOU ARE A DANGER TO OUR SOCIETY!

DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#670 Jul 6, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>That is where you should have stopped many many posts ago!
He absolutely WAS defending himself, otherwise there would have been testimony that had witnesses seeing Zimmerman with the gun drawn and no injuries would have occurred!
<quoted text>He was not in pursuit of the 6'3" suspicious figure near his home in the gated community on a rainy night, he was observing (absolutely legal and in a free country allowed to do).
<quoted text>He did what any "normal" and reasonable citizen would do who was trying to protect himself and his property against someone believed to have been up to no good, which was to observe his actions to provide info to the police who had been unable to catch the thugs that had been breaking in.
<quoted text>
YOU DOUBT??? Really...YOU DOUBT! Who the freak are you...you doubt. lol
Heck, if you stumbled and fell, I have no doubt you would break a hip...you doubt! lmao
<quoted text>Old west...have you been in any urban area lately (real urban area). I live a few miles from the heart of the worst part that is Detroit, and I can tell you that for the most part, it is a lawless, scummy, nasty part of the city, that would scare the shiznit out of the wild west!
Actually if Islamic law was automatically applied in Detroit, there would be a lot of one handed people running around.
<quoted text>Better wake up and smell the coffee. In the "bang bang old west" people could defend themselves. Now the tree hugging politically correct "free to be you and me" morons, defend thugs and criminals, and persecute the victims!
We live in the times where nearly every thug is armed, or close to being armed. Martin was on the path!!!
Need proof. http://nyencore.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/0...
<quoted text>You again are a moron living in the "old days" where people respected the law and authority.
People in the hood don't respect the law and authority today, Martin's track record shows that!
What I am starting to see with you, and while you don't come right out and say it at one time, your comments definitely show you as one of those anti-gun freaks...what are you too afraid to say it outright?
Over and over you talk about how legal gun owners believe themselves to be baddasses and "less people with guns is a good idea".
MY ASSESSMENT OF YOU IS...You clearly have an agenda here, and are obviously against the the right to bear arms, its clear you are biased and as mentioned, only using this case/thread as your platform to grandstand and to spew your agenda!
I think less tree hugging wimps who bury their head in the sand when it comes to reality, and who attempt to protect the criminals and ignore the victims, IS A GOOD IDEA!
YOU ARE A DANGER TO OUR SOCIETY!
It's OK for you to continue your flailing and protesting the facts of this case, but understand that your current mindset is WRONG and thuggish. In America, private citizens don't provoke, beat up and kill with impunity folks they believe are "sinners." Like Captain Z, you'll be caught killing folks you believe are thugs and you'll pay for your crime.

_ You sound like one of them serial killers who capture, sexually abuse and murder runaways and prostitutes believing they are doing a service to society.....

_ You can collect as many guns as you wish; you may even use them as sex toys, but you are not allowed to go out there with your loaded guns, egging on perceived thugs and prostitutes into fights, murder them then claim self-defense. No rational person will believe you. Ignorant racist thug!
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#671 Jul 6, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>It's OK for you to continue your flailing and protesting the facts of this case, but understand that your current mindset is WRONG and thuggish. In America, private citizens don't provoke, beat up and kill with impunity folks they believe are "sinners." Like Captain Z, you'll be caught killing folks you believe are thugs and you'll pay for your crime.
_ You sound like one of them serial killers who capture, sexually abuse and murder runaways and prostitutes believing they are doing a service to society.....
_ You can collect as many guns as you wish; you may even use them as sex toys, but you are not allowed to go out there with your loaded guns, egging on perceived thugs and prostitutes into fights, murder them then claim self-defense. No rational person will believe you. Ignorant racist thug!
Says the irrelevant old fool that still thinks its ok to refer to blacks as "NEGROS".

Move along you out of touch fool!
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#672 Jul 6, 2013
What I notice about the radical "anti-Zimmerman" anti self-defense whackjobs posting here:

1) They are really out of touch.
2) They are delusional about reality.
3) They are oblivious to how the "real" world works.
4) They seem really unstable (ie a guy who says "negro" and "captain z") and rables on and on about nonsense.
5) They seem to base everything they know around television shows like CSI, Matlock, HouseMD!

The list really goes on and on, but the bottom line is, they are in the extreme minority, but due to their bizarre and wacky nature, they jump up and down like retarded baboons on anonymous forums on the "interwebs" lmao!
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#673 Jul 6, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
What I notice about the radical "anti-Zimmerman" anti self-defense whackjobs posting here:
1) They are really out of touch.
2) They are delusional about reality.
3) They are oblivious to how the "real" world works.
4) They seem really unstable (ie a guy who says "negro" and "captain z") and rables on and on about nonsense.
5) They seem to base everything they know around television shows like CSI, Matlock, HouseMD!
The list really goes on and on, but the bottom line is, they are in the extreme minority, but due to their bizarre and wacky nature, they jump up and down like retarded baboons on anonymous forums on the "interwebs" lmao!
There would be a legitimate self-defense claim if Zimmerman was the one with the "hallow point" bullet in his heart.

_ Martin was almost home when Captain Z jumped out of his truck, chased the kid to the dark alley, attempted to corner kid, kid tried to runaway (witnesses heard sneakers' noise like someone making evasive moves on Basketball courts).

_ If a lawful pedestrian were to resist a dog chasing them by kicking the dog; and, if dog got the better of that person and killed them; do you believe dog is at fault or is it the victim's fault for finally stopping and kicking the dog?
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#674 Jul 6, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>
There would be a legitimate self-defense claim if Zimmerman was the one with the "hallow point" bullet in his heart.
Hey you illiterate ignorant old fool, it hollow point!

You talk a lot about things you know nothing of.

Based on the facts and eyewitness accounts, this is the most likely scenario:

Treyvon was looking for stuff outside of peoples apartments to steal, or casing a place to later break into, or just acting suspicious without doing anything wrong. This doesn't really matter as to the legality of the case.
When confronted by Zimmerman, there was an argument about why Trayvon was there and what was he doing.
Trayvon proceeded to get rowdy and in Zimmermans face (actin' hard), Zimmerman pushed Trayvon off of him, Trayvon came back swinging and knocked Zimmerman on the ground (which is why Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of his head).
Trayvon proceeded to continue wailing on Zimmerman.
Zimmerman screams for help repeatedly. With no help in sight, Zimmerman manages to reach for his gun with Trayvon on top of him and shot Trayvon from the front, in the chest.
Trayvon becomes fatally wounded and falls over into the grass as Zimmerman pushes Trayvon's now lifeless corpse off of him and proceeds to get back up.

Now which is more believable? This or Zimmerman attacking and shooting him for walking around doing nothing while showing no aggression? I think the answer is obvious.

Trayvon was shot in the chest, from the front at point blank range. He was not walking or running away when he was shot, he was facing Zimmerman and on top of him.
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#675 Jul 6, 2013
Sabrina Fulton (Trayvon’s Mom) is seeking Trademarks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

In both instances, Fulton is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.

The USPTO applications, each of which cost $325, were filed by an Orlando, Florida law firm representing Fulton.

How many “grieving parents do you know that would be concerned with “Trademarking” their dead child’s name? And why?

But then again, the Trayvon “Brand” would be more marketable and valuable if the constructed image of the innocent child victim could continue.

Alas, now it becomes clear, why all of those people who stand to profit from the death of Trayvon, consider any fact based, or truthful, information too risky to the Trayvon brand.

This also explains why Sabrina Fulton (Mom) and Tracy Martin (Dad) hired an attorney named Benjamin Crump. The very first action that Crump took upon retention was to file an injunction to “seal” Trayvon’s school and criminal records. Thereby trying to hide the troubling background.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#676 Jul 6, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>It's OK for you to continue your flailing and protesting the facts of this case, but understand that your current mindset is WRONG and thuggish. In America, private citizens don't provoke, beat up and kill with impunity folks they believe are "sinners." Like Captain Z, you'll be caught killing folks you believe are thugs and you'll pay for your crime.
_ You sound like one of them serial killers who capture, sexually abuse and murder runaways and prostitutes believing they are doing a service to society.....
_ You can collect as many guns as you wish; you may even use them as sex toys, but you are not allowed to go out there with your loaded guns, egging on perceived thugs and prostitutes into fights, murder them then claim self-defense. No rational person will believe you. Ignorant racist thug!
WELL SAID! Thank you.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#677 Jul 6, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Says the irrelevant old fool that still thinks its ok to refer to blacks as "NEGROS".
Move along you out of touch fool!
Thanks for that comeback, proving you just got smoked, he couldn't have said it better. WHy don't you complain to the United Negro fund?
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#678 Jul 6, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for that comeback, proving you just got smoked, he couldn't have said it better. WHy don't you complain to the United Negro fund?
Your denial extends beyond the Zimmerman self defense trial, but includes your ignorance for current trends and racial insensitivity, much like your other like minded bigoted biased retard poster.

Negro is a term referring to people of Black African ancestry. Prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s, the appellation was accepted as a normal neutral formal term both by those of African descent as well as non-African blacks. Now it is often considered an ethnic slur although the term is still used in some contexts for historical reasons such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund.

It shows how you old timers are out of touch and irrelevant, it also shows your unwillingness to accept change and the fact you are locked into some twisted sense of reality from 1960!

That's ok...you old fuktards can continue using racially offensive speech, all it does is discredit you!
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#679 Jul 6, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>WELL SAID! Thank you.
Awe look...its the buddy program! lol

When one moron supports another moron, you have the peanut gallery! lol

Keep up the good work!

NEXT!
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#680 Jul 6, 2013
Zimmerman saw Martin walking through the neighborhood on a dark, rainy night. As a neighborhood watchman he tried to follow him in his car because there had been a series of break-ins in the gated community.
Zimmerman lost sight of Martin and got out of his car to call police, and while walking back to his vehicle the 17-year-old 6'3" overly aggressive thug, attacked him.
Martin jumped out and said ‘What the eff is your problem, homie?' Zimmerman got out his cell to call 911, and said ‘I don’t have a problem.’ the thug Martin then said ‘No, now you have a problem,’ and he punched him in the nose.”

Zimmerman fell down to the ground after being punched repeatedly, Martin is now on top of Zimmerman and says ‘You are going to die tonight.’ and began to bang his head onto the ground.

Martin saw Zimmermans gun and went for it, Zimmerman was able to prevent that, drawing the firearm and shooting Martin.

SELF DEFENSE CUT AND DRY!

The police supported that, the county prosecutor supported that!

You goons here are victims of the biased leftwing hate/fear mongering media and black leaders that opened their mouths and spewed nothing but diarrhea...which is nothing new to the pro martin pukes on here!

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#681 Jul 6, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>First and foremost..."TREY" really dude? WTF, nothing like showing your bias right out of the gate!!! lol
Zimmerman was following Martin, no one is denying that, what the boobs on this thread keep saying is that Zimmerman was perusing Martin, which he was not...following and observing is a completely different thing and 100% legal!
Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon. He followed him with his car, then when he saw that Trayvon was running, he got out and started running as well.
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>

A little correction to your statement about citizens arrests...Citizens have every right to make a citizen arrest if they reasonably believe a felony is being or has been committed as well as other things. It is quite detailed to go into all the aspects of that here and now, and I am not suggesting Zimmerman was evoking his right to make a citizens arrest.
Zimmerman had no reason to suspect that a crime was being committed. All he saw nwas a young boy on the phone talking. Nothing Trayvon was doing was criminal.
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#682 Jul 6, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>WELL SAID! Thank you.
No problem. Apparently, this rabid dog enjoys the occasional smacking....
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#683 Jul 6, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon. He followed him with his car, then when he saw that Trayvon was running, he got out and started running as well.
<quoted text> Zimmerman had no reason to suspect that a crime was being committed. All he saw nwas a young boy on the phone talking. Nothing Trayvon was doing was criminal.
The testimony didn't support that Zimmerman was running.

Someone running does not warrant another to beat them up and pummel them into the ground!

Young boy? Martin was not a "YOUNG BOY", but I love the attempt to make him appear as just a child...the media did the same thing! Its laughable at best.


The part you apparently did not comprehend of my comment was where I said "and I am not suggesting Zimmerman was evoking his right to make a citizens arrest."

Accuracy is important, the Martin side seems to run on emotion not facts!
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#684 Jul 6, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>
No problem. Apparently, this rabid dog enjoys the occasional smacking....
Misery loves company...you and the other old-timer(s) are evidence of that!

You have been shown to be irrelevant, foolish, emotion and racially driven, and all around loony!

I have taken much enjoyment in schooling you old goats, and bitchslapping you where necessary!

Your irrelevance and lack of being in touch, has been exposed.

hahahahahaha
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#685 Jul 6, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Spot on! racist morons or out of control political correctness idiots! lol
Dumb folks come from every ethnic group; and, it would be shameful for me to know we'd share same racial attributes because you are a very stupid and hateful person!

_ I don't believe my race is superior to somebody else's race; so, by definition I cannot be a racist!

_ If I were related to Captain Z, I would not be posting regarding this case because I can see he's been caught lying trying to get away with cold-blooded murder of an innocent child....

You, you have no conscience... You should hope your guns will save you, because it's likely that, one day, a family member of one of them Negroes you've murdering might want to booby-trap your car at your local shopping center, programming it for a 3:00AM fireworks.

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