Media Bias on the Zimmerman, Martin Case
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#481 Jul 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
I cannot believe that some people actually expect us to believe that George Zimmerman broke his own nose, and cut the back of his own head. What a load of baloney. Those injuries to Zimmerman were clearly caused by Travon, and were duly noted by the police upon their arrival to the scene.
I see your problem: you can't comprehend what you read!

Folks agree that Martin punched Zimmerman on the nose, but folks don't believe Martin got to slam Zimmerman's skull on the concrete.

1. The cuts on Zimmerman's head are superficial and not consistent with a series of violent slamming blows to the head!

2. Zimmerman's MMA experience explains without any doubt that he took Martin to the ground and put that submissive move on Martin, choking him to a point where Trayvon could not even scream with his normal voice

3. Same MMA submissive techniques would requires that Zimmerman rest on his head and shoulder while choking Martin with his legs. Zimmerman subsequently sustained scalp abrasions/cut while tussling on the ground with Martin.

4. Once, George secured Trayvon in that submissive position, Zimmerman shot him at point blank

5. Zimmerman said once he shot Martin, he was able to slide from underneath the body in order to get off the ground

6. Where dead body was found was more than two dozen feet away from concrete; it would have been impossible for Martin to slam Zimmerman's head from concrete that far away from concrete sidewalk.

Clearly, Zimmerman is lying about that concrete head slamming bout!
Clitoris Dasheboon

Roseville, MI

#482 Jul 2, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>
I see your problem: you can't comprehend what you read!
Folks agree that Martin punched Zimmerman on the nose, but folks don't believe Martin got to slam Zimmerman's skull on the concrete.
1. The cuts on Zimmerman's head are superficial and not consistent with a series of violent slamming blows to the head!
2. Zimmerman's MMA experience explains without any doubt that he took Martin to the ground and put that submissive move on Martin, choking him to a point where Trayvon could not even scream with his normal voice
3. Same MMA submissive techniques would requires that Zimmerman rest on his head and shoulder while choking Martin with his legs. Zimmerman subsequently sustained scalp abrasions/cut while tussling on the ground with Martin.
4. Once, George secured Trayvon in that submissive position, Zimmerman shot him at point blank
5. Zimmerman said once he shot Martin, he was able to slide from underneath the body in order to get off the ground
6. Where dead body was found was more than two dozen feet away from concrete; it would have been impossible for Martin to slam Zimmerman's head from concrete that far away from concrete sidewalk.
Clearly, Zimmerman is lying about that concrete head slamming bout!
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TheRealDeal

Troy, MI

#483 Jul 2, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
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I see your problem: you can't comprehend what you read!
Folks agree that Martin punched Zimmerman on the nose, but folks don't believe Martin got to slam Zimmerman's skull on the concrete.
1. The cuts on Zimmerman's head are superficial and not consistent with a series of violent slamming blows to the head!
2. Zimmerman's MMA experience explains without any doubt that he took Martin to the ground and put that submissive move on Martin, choking him to a point where Trayvon could not even scream with his normal voice
3. Same MMA submissive techniques would requires that Zimmerman rest on his head and shoulder while choking Martin with his legs. Zimmerman subsequently sustained scalp abrasions/cut while tussling on the ground with Martin.
4. Once, George secured Trayvon in that submissive position, Zimmerman shot him at point blank
5. Zimmerman said once he shot Martin, he was able to slide from underneath the body in order to get off the ground
6. Where dead body was found was more than two dozen feet away from concrete; it would have been impossible for Martin to slam Zimmerman's head from concrete that far away from concrete sidewalk.
Clearly, Zimmerman is lying about that concrete head slamming bout!
TRANSLATION...."I WATCH CSI AND OTHER DRAMA PROGRAMS INCLUDING HOUSE, AND IM AM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT".

Reality check, martin was seen on top of zimmerman, martin had a problem with authority and with the rules, martin had been caught with stolen property and burglary tools, martin was a druggie, martin believed himself to be a thug!

Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch, zimmerman confronted someone potentially up to no good in an area that suffered from a recent rash of break-ins, zimmerman was attacked, and zimmerman ultimately had to defend himself in order to stay alive.

You are grasping with your "MMA" nonsense, you are confused by the facts because you listen to way too much Nancy Grace or whatever, you are confused with reality verse drama television, and you clearly have no clue of how things wok in the real world much less "urban" areas!

Save your dime store lawyer crap for people who think you know what your talking about.

Last point for you to ponder there Ironside...Riddle me this...IF Zimmerman was out to kill martin, why then didn't he have his gun drawn, and why then was martin allowed to get close enough to commit personal and potentially life threatening physical violence against Zimmerman?

The reality is, Zimmerman confronted martin to find out what he was doing there, martin in a very typical thug way, quickly got aggressive with zimmerman, zimmerman well within his rights, believed he should, could and would stand his ground against someone who very suspicious, martin got physical with Zimmerman in a potentially life threatening manner and went for his gun, Zimmerman defended himself against this additional life threatening action, and the end result....the threat was eliminated!

The police and county prosecutor saw it this way, as did many others.
The political correctness machine got a hold of it, and made it a race thing!

Blacks are threatening all over this country to commit violence and even death against whites if Zimmerman is acquitted.
Hello Rodney King riots, hello OJ, and thanks hate mongering race baiters!
Affreeca Shemail

Roseville, MI

#484 Jul 2, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
<quoted text>
I see your problem: you can't comprehend what you read!
Folks agree that Martin punched Zimmerman on the nose, but folks don't believe Martin got to slam Zimmerman's skull on the concrete.
1. The cuts on Zimmerman's head are superficial and not consistent with a series of violent slamming blows to the head!
2. Zimmerman's MMA experience explains without any doubt that he took Martin to the ground and put that submissive move on Martin, choking him to a point where Trayvon could not even scream with his normal voice
3. Same MMA submissive techniques would requires that Zimmerman rest on his head and shoulder while choking Martin with his legs. Zimmerman subsequently sustained scalp abrasions/cut while tussling on the ground with Martin.
4. Once, George secured Trayvon in that submissive position, Zimmerman shot him at point blank
5. Zimmerman said once he shot Martin, he was able to slide from underneath the body in order to get off the ground
6. Where dead body was found was more than two dozen feet away from concrete; it would have been impossible for Martin to slam Zimmerman's head from concrete that far away from concrete sidewalk.
Clearly, Zimmerman is lying about that concrete head slamming bout!
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#485 Jul 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
I cannot believe that some people actually expect us to believe that George Zimmerman broke his own nose, and cut the back of his own head. What a load of baloney. Those injuries to Zimmerman were clearly caused by Travon, and were duly noted by the police upon their arrival to the scene.
Ummm--we don't actually know if the nose was broken. And the nose injuries could just have easily resulted from pistol recoil as Zimmerman fired with his non-dominant hand, using the other hand to restrain Trayvon.

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#486 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>TRANSLATION...."I WATCH CSI AND OTHER DRAMA PROGRAMS INCLUDING HOUSE, AND IM AM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT".
Reality check, martin was seen on top of zimmerman, martin had a problem with authority and with the rules, martin had been caught with stolen property and burglary tools, martin was a druggie, martin believed himself to be a thug!
Down boy.

Teenagers challenging authority is par for the course. Even attorney Don West is having to live down the recent social media actions of his daughters (in their mid to late 20s) this week. He shrugs and says sometimes your kids don't do what you want.

Martin was caught with a screwdriver and some jewelry--when his backpack was searched because he wrote on a school locker. Turned out the jewelry was NOT reported to have been stolen.

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#487 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
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You are grasping with your "MMA" nonsense, you are confused by the facts because you listen to way too much Nancy Grace or whatever, you are confused with reality verse drama television, and you clearly have no clue of how things wok in the real world much less "urban" areas!
Save your dime store lawyer crap for people who think you know what your talking about.
In fact, Zimmerman's MMA training is already a part of the case record.

I look for it to come up again before the trial is over--despite attempts by his lawyers to keep it out.

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#488 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
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The reality is, Zimmerman confronted martin to find out what he was doing there, martin in a very typical thug way, quickly got aggressive with zimmerman, zimmerman well within his rights, believed he should, could and would stand his ground against someone who very suspicious, martin got physical with Zimmerman in a potentially life threatening manner and went for his gun,
And where is the evidence to support this?

Even Zimmerman does not say that he confronted Trayvon to find out what he was doing there. In fact, he says he backed away saying he had no problem with him.

Further, the only thing that made Trayvon suspicious at all was Zimmerman's (false) assumption that he was somehow linked (based on physical appearance) to earlier crimes in the neighborhood--despite the recent arrest of of someone who was later tried and imprisoned for some of those crimes.

BTW--none of Trayvon's prints or DNA turned up on Zim's gun.
TheRealDeal

Troy, MI

#489 Jul 2, 2013
Oh oh another armchair quarterback on deck.

You people are a joke, you site around ALL DAY LONG obsessing over this, watching it, re-watching it, then at nighttime, settle down to a large cup of Nancy Grace to compile all the tree-hugging biased summary's she feeds to gullible fools, who suck it down like a hobo on a hotdog! lmao

Ever heard of common sense, ever heard of reality...some of you fools think your lawyers or jury members really in the courtroom! haha

FKA Reader...this isnt your favorite game of CLUE where Col Mustard did it with the pipe wrench in the library! bwaahaha

You goobers need to climb down off your pseudo courtroom pedestals, and wake up to a dose of reality!

REAL LIFE isn't TV....now say it to yourself..."REAL LIFE isn't TV, REAL LIFE isn't TV!

The sooner you accept that REAL LIFE isn't TV, the sooner you will connect the dots that your Perry Mason wannabe nonsense is stupid!

Ghetto thug mouthing off to a grown adult who was providing a service to the community.
Ghetto thug should have absolutely been questioned, had ghetto thug been a bit ore respectful, it would not have escalated.

BY THE Way...AND here is the reality for you NIGHT COURT bobo's -----
IF Zimmerman was out to kill martin, why then didn't he have his gun drawn, and why then was martin allowed to get close enough to commit personal and potentially life threatening physical violence against Zimmerman?

Oh wait...that's a tough one huh...it doesn't fit with your Matlock MMA theories does it?

It was Col Mustard in the Library with the Candle Stick...bwaaahahahahaha
TheRealDeal

Troy, MI

#490 Jul 2, 2013
Face it FKA Reader, you are a tree hugger, race driven, or naive beyond all comprehension.

Im inclined to believe you are naive, but it may be that you are race driven by looking at all the other threads against zimmerman you are on.

People who are swayed by external influence and are jaded by their own experiences, lack credibility and lose the argument every-time.

Kinda sad, kind of funny!
Bill

Anaheim, CA

#491 Jul 2, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Ummm--we don't actually know if the nose was broken. And the nose injuries could just have easily resulted from pistol recoil as Zimmerman fired with his non-dominant hand, using the other hand to restrain Trayvon.
Anyone who has ever fired a gun knows that the recoil is not that bad, and the gun would never hit you in the nose. Trayvon broke Zimmerman's nose, and Tayvon cut Zimmerman's head as he banged George's head against the concrete.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#492 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
Ghetto thug mouthing off to a grown adult who was providing a service to the community.
Ghetto thug should have absolutely been questioned, had ghetto thug been a bit ore respectful, it would not have escalated.
BY THE Way...AND here is the reality for you NIGHT COURT bobo's -----
IF Zimmerman was out to kill martin, why then didn't he have his gun drawn, and why then was martin allowed to get close enough to commit personal and potentially life threatening physical violence against Zimmerman?
1) What, except for Zimmerman's word, supports your claim that Trayvon was mouthing off to Zimmerman?

2) How do you know, except for Zimmerman's word, that Zimmerman did NOT have his gun drawn?

Do you think that nobody ever lies to get out of going to prison?

Sorry, you're right. This isn't Perry Mason. Zimmerman will not jump up in the final act and admit to everything. He will go to jail swearing that he was the injured party. Probably even write a book about it (ghost written by brother Junior, of course).

BTW--Nancy Grace has very little to do with real life.

Last night she was shouting (she's always shouting) about the tapes that the jury just saw that HLN has for it's viewers--as if it was all news. Each and every one of those tapes has been in the public domain for quite some time.

She's catering to a crowd who hasn't been following and will eat up whatever she dribbles out every day.
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#493 Jul 2, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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And where is the evidence to support this?
Even Zimmerman does not say that he confronted Trayvon to find out what he was doing there. In fact, he says he backed away saying he had no problem with him.
Further, the only thing that made Trayvon suspicious at all was Zimmerman's (false) assumption that he was somehow linked (based on physical appearance) to earlier crimes in the neighborhood--despite the recent arrest of of someone who was later tried and imprisoned for some of those crimes.
BTW--none of Trayvon's prints or DNA turned up on Zim's gun.
Astute observations!

You are causing their heads to explode; facts are an inconvenience to fanatics....

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#494 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
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Blacks are threatening all over this country to commit violence and even death against whites if Zimmerman is acquitted.
Really?

I haven't heard that stuff coming from anyone but folks like you.
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#495 Jul 2, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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1) What, except for Zimmerman's word, supports your claim that ...
Do you think that nobody ever lies to get out of going to prison?
Sorry, you're right. This isn't Perry Mason. Zimmerman will not jump up in the final act and admit to everything. He will go to jail swearing that he was the injured party....
Brother Hannity got Zimmerman in trouble. On Hannity, Zimmerman denied he knew about Florida's "Stand Your Ground law." Now, we know Zimmerman took a Criminal Justice course and Zimmerman lawyers are trying to block Zimmerman's teacher from testifying that courses covered that law and self-defense strategies for the courtroom....

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#496 Jul 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Anyone who has ever fired a gun knows that the recoil is not that bad, and the gun would never hit you in the nose. Trayvon broke Zimmerman's nose, and Tayvon cut Zimmerman's head as he banged George's head against the concrete.
You have killed someone in the middle of a hand-to-hand encounter?

I expect it's a tad different from firing at the range.

Did you listen to the ME's testimony today?

A head is spherical. A sidewalk is flat.

How does banging on the sidewalk account for the various bumps/abrasions/lacerations on all sides of his head?
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#497 Jul 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
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Anyone who has ever fired a gun knows that the recoil is not that bad, and the gun would never hit you in the nose. Trayvon broke Zimmerman's nose, and Tayvon cut Zimmerman's head as he banged George's head against the concrete.
You should say "amen" after making a statement like that because it sounds more like a faith/beliefs based statement impossible to support with facts....
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#498 Jul 2, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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...
How does banging on the sidewalk account for the various bumps/abrasions/lacerations on all sides of his head?
Most of Zimmerman's head injuries are consistent with a previous witness statement that the two were rolling on the ground; not from slamming on concrete....
Bill

Anaheim, CA

#499 Jul 2, 2013
A person cannot get cuts on their head from rolling around on the grass, Trayvon was banging George's head against the concrete. All of the evidence supports Goerge's account of what happened, which is why charges were not immediately filed against George, and which is why George will be found NOT GUILTY.

Now, what we need to prepare for, is that we need to prepare for a "NOT GUILTY" verdict in this case, and we need to work to prevent the Blacks from rioting, burning, and looting.

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#500 Jul 2, 2013
DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:
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Most of Zimmerman's head injuries are consistent with a previous witness statement that the two were rolling on the ground; not from slamming on concrete....
I agree.

Or banging into a tree.

Or, I wonder, might those punctate abrasions result from any gun powder blow-back or residue?

Still think that the thingy (punctate, again) on the end of the nose came from recoil.

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