prove that homosexuality is wrong.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#26438 Apr 2, 2013
Homosexuals have no real arguements against us.
Homosexuality is a sin under the laws of Leviticus and Sharia and is worthy to death.You live your sinful lives in this sinful world thinking that this is your only life you have and there´s no others without caring about the thereafter? One day you will stand at the tribunal of justice, the tribunal of the Lord and the unrighteous/non-believers will cry: "Wish that we were dust". O Sodomites how terrible was the judgement on the sodomites in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah and after,how terrible was the justice who already died naturally and not to forget those who suffered from Aids and died for their sins utterly. They all landed in hell. Just think about it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#26439 Apr 3, 2013
Huffington Post;

"A Dec. 22, 2011 piece by Hugo Schwyzer, a professor of gender studies and history at Pasadena City College, implied that anal sex (which he calls "the most selfless of common sexual acts" given the amount of pain the "bottoming" partner endures in its practice) could be on the rise due to its frequent appearance in both heterosexual porn and mainstream media as well as an increased pressure from heterosexual male partners. He also cited several sources who seemed to cast doubt on how pleasurable the act was for women.

Though there's no telling what he'd say about the implications of the practice between heterosexual partners, Paul Angelo, a Miami-based "gay matchmaker," reportedly called for a 60-day moratorium on anal sex among gay couples last month, saying the act diminishes self-confidence and self-esteem while causing relationship confusion among partners. "The worse part about this destruction of self-esteem is that it's on the subconscious level. A person will not feel anything during the act," he writes. "And the pleasure derived from the act will override the logic necessary to correct the behavior. In addition, there is a delay between the act of anal intercourse and the reduction of self-esteem of the person."
HumanSpirit

Fort White, FL

#26440 Apr 3, 2013
Given the increase of the homosexual behavior along with the time frame of the pharmaceutical industry release of mind drugs and the decision of the mental health industry to reverse its category of homosexual behavior...one would have to question homosexual behavior to pharmaceutical mind drugs that have a history of personality changes and alteration including murders and violence

Death, violence, erratic behavior and the suicide by mind drugs

http://ssristories.com/index.php

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#26441 Apr 3, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Dear, while the causalities of homosexuality have yet to be proved to a scientific certainty, free will choice is nowhere on the list. While there is no specific gene which controls sexual orientation, that does not rule out genetic components. It is known to run in families along maternal lines and occurs more frequently among identical twins than fraternal. there is also significant evidence to indicate biological components at work as well, as it occurs most frequently among children born to older mothers and with multiple older siblings of the same sex. Most scienti
I would like to continue to go to scripture once again. As we continue to learn more about the mental state of the homosexual as God describes it in Romans.

I would like to consider the Greek word for the word {MIND} used in Romans in-light of the homosexual.

Romans 1:28 And even as they {Homosexuals} did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate {MIND}, to do those things which are not convenient;{Sexually-morally proper}

And now we will continue to develop a more full understanding of the homosexual mental state as we consider the overall {MIND} of the homosexual.

Now lets look at this Greek word used for {MIND} it is the Greek word {NOUS} this word means the overall mind.

Which houses the will, intent, desires, and perverted impulses of the homosexual. It is where emotion, reason and compromise and concepts are housed. It is also where evil thoughts are housed and developed as they are given birth.

And remember that all homosexuality is driven by improper male sexual lust, impulse, thought.

Remember that we saw from the word that there is a constant battle going on in the mind {NOUS} of the homosexual.

And all improper sexual lust begins in the arena of the mind {NOUS} of the homosexual.

Why is the homosexual not able to do the proper things they should as regards to female sexual relationships?

Because that part of the brain-mind {NOUS} where proper sexual reasoning is contemplated is totally shut down!

So, You may ask, what causes it to shut down?

Lust! Remember that Romans said that these homosexuals burned in their {LUST} one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly.{Unnatural- out of proper sexual order}

But where is this homosexual lust to have sexual intercourse with men given birth?

It is given birth in the {NOUS} mind of the homosexual.

And understanding this great truth will also prove beyond doubt that homosexuals are not born homosexual.

But homosexuality is in reality developed via the free will thought process and will of the homosexual within the {NOUS}!

All homosexual sexual activity is always proceeded by thoughts. Thoughts developed within the homosexual {NOUS}

Lets look at this same word-{NOUS} in another section of the word to help broaden out understanding of it.

2nd Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these [ Homosexuals and the ungodly} also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds,{NOUS} reprobate concerning the faith.

This is interesting because Romans also describes the homosexuals mental state as corrupt and reprobate.

All scripture makes its appeal to the centers of the brain where morality resides within man.

But as I have shown via Scripture, the homosexual has a seared conscience concerning proper moral sexual behavour.

And those centers of the homosexual brain, mind {NOUS} are shut down.

But that part of the brain within the homosexual that is responsible for sexual perversion, sexual corruption and lies is open for business!

Why? Because as scripture has shown, the LUST for male flesh is alive and well.

Remember that God said in Romans 1:24 that he had to give them up because of the uncleanness through the lust of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves.

A free will decision made within the {NOUS} of every homosexual to this day!

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#26442 Apr 3, 2013
Mistle wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I didn't, I asked for your sources supporting your argument.
Before we move on I felt that I should give you a little information concerning the book of Romans. And the homosexual content covered in the book of Romans.

Have you ever thought about why Romans is very important to our study of the homosexual?

What is special about the book of Romans and the homosexual information contained in Romans.

We know that the homosexual and Gods condemnation of the lifestyle is recorded thru out the entire bible.

But why is Romans special, why is Romans different?

The answer is very simple!

God had seven church Epistles written to the born-again believers.

An Epistle is another word for letter.

A Church Epistle contains information directly from God to man.

God gave Paul the revelation-spiritual inspiration concerning what he wanted written and how the believers were to function.

But we have still not answered the question, why is Romans so special?

The answer is really very simple.

The book of Romans was the very {FIRST} Epistle-letter of instruction God had written to and for the individuals that got born-again on the day of Pentecost.

Romans is what is referred to as an Doctrinal Epistle.

So, What is a Doctrinal Epistle?

A Doctrinal Epistle gives information concerning how to believe rightly.

It shows the believer how to live righteously. It shows the believer what to avoid.

It can never be overstated how important Romans is. And the weight it carries.

Why? Because its the first Epistle addressed to the believers!

Now, With this understanding in mind we all must ask ourselves a question?

What is the very first thing that God brings up in this very first Epistle?

The answer, HOMOSEXUALITY-LESBIANISM!

Could God speak any louder concerning his condemnation of HOMOSEXUALITY-LESBIANISM?

No!

Out of all the sins, out of all the sexual maladies. What does God bring up first, HOMOSEXUALITY-LESBIANISM!

Do you know that there is more recorded concerning the sin of homosexuality then all the other sins and maladies?

Why?

Because the sin of homosexuality is so deep that it literally guts any individual that participates in the lifestyle on every level of morality.

Homosexuality is like a piece of wood that has been stained.

The negative effects literally permeate the very inner soul of those that involve themselves with this lifestyle.

So, How does the homosexual function and appear normal?

The answer is really very simple.

Scripture says that the homosexual has had their mind seared with a hot iron.

What does that mean?

It means that, the part of the brain were sexual morals and sexual morality is reasoned, is shut down!

Much the same way an alcoholic shuts down.

Now you will understand to a much deeper degree why God said they have a reprobate mind!

They couldn't make a sound moral decision if they wanted to.

Why? Because that part of the brain where sexual decisions and sexual morality is made is shut down.

Yes, All this corruption takes place in the arena of the mind!

And this is why God brings up homosexuality first!

There is no deeper sin then homosexuality.

Because homosexuality poisons all the other moral nuances!

God brought up homosexuality first because he did not want any misunderstanding concerning this very vile and degrading life choice.

Homosexuality is actually a crime against humanity as far as God is concerned!

Homosexuality dirties all of the beauty and simplicity that God built into the fabric of life!

Homosexuality degrades man, cheapens man, cheapens life in all of its wonder and beauty!

Everything the homosexual touches is dirtied and degraded.

Homosexuality is a mockery of God, marriage, children!

God considers it the vilest of the vile! And rightfully so!

Make no mistake about it, it is no accident that God confronts and condemns homosexuality first! In his first admonitions to the believers.

Libertarian

London, UK

#26443 Apr 3, 2013
Right and wrong is a moral judgement. There are no morals in science.

Therefore you cannot prove homosexuality is wrong.
You cannot not believe it because I can prove it exists.

I suppose making your child think you're going to kill him, mutilating a child without his consent and hating others based on something a magical mythical being said is right then is it??

Satan wanted us to have the knowledge and reason. I'm very much on his side in this.
Keep your genocidal god to yourselves.

Since: Mar 13

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#26444 Apr 3, 2013
Adam wrote:
Not to forget gay marriage is a imitation of man-woman marriage.
Imitation Vanilla!

Definition of IMITATION:

1: an act or instance of imitating

2: something produced as a copy : counterfeit.

3: the assumption of behavior observed in other individuals

As one considers and compares the homosexual with all other humans.

There is no question that the homosexual is the only human that has in fact, created a perception of who and what they would like others to believe they are.

People of color have not done this.

People of other ethnicity's have not done this.

Everything the homosexual portrays themselves to be, is fabricated!

Yes, It is all an imitation!

Unlike people of color, the homosexual still remains a stranger to themselves!

No one in all of recorded history. Has spent so much, lied so much, twisted so much, distorted so much, destroyed so much. In an attempt to create a perception, of who they would like others to believe they are!

In short, the whole homosexual lifestyle is an imitation. Based upon unproven and unknown concepts unknown to mankind since antiquity!

Homosexual concepts that have destroyed parents, family's and acquaintances the world over.

But most of all, it has destroyed the homosexual themselves and their potential for greatness. As they had the potential to contribute to the advancement of humanity and proper norms resident within every human!

The purpose of mankind is to advance civilizations, it is not to create an imitation civilization.

No homosexual can propagate any civilization in its truest sense.

All homosexual propagation is only artificial. And all natural forms of propagation become only, an propagation based strictly upon imitation and slight of hand!

All homosexuality is driven by an individuals willingness to abandon their natural inclinations, concerning right and proper conduct. And right and proper sexual conduct!

All homosexuality confuses unchanging moral values with changing moral practices. That is, it confuses morals with mores. And it confuses Gods moral command with our relative comprehension of it!

And if the entire civilization was homosexual, all civilizations would self destruct!

And the argument that homosexuality is a private matter, will not negate the truths I am setting forth.

The argument that domestic violence and drunkenness is a private matter makes as much sense!

Labeling something private never negates the destructive nature of it to an individual or to a nation.

Also moving a corrupt behavour from a public arena to a private location. Does not change the violation of the moral laws involved.

God gave man great freedom and freedom of will.

God also gave man emotions.

So, What part does emotions play as man makes choice's concerning his sexual conduct?

They serve him in many ways. But the greatest service is the protection they provide to his emotional state.

And as one ignores those emotional signals and those protections, it can and does lead to bad places at times.

And this is true of homosexuality, domestic violence, drunkenness and a whole host of other issues.

And emotion has no bias!

And the belief that homosexuality is natural, is a denial of those warning bells, called emotion.

And there is no greater emotional turmoil then living a lie and ignoring those warnings!

Looking everyday in the mirror and realizing your entire life is based upon an series of lies and denials, a fabrication, an imitation.

Once again I have not written to be critical. But the truth must be told!

Truth is good, truth delivers!

No individual can remain an stranger to themselves and enjoy life!

Psalm 50:15 And call on Me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you shall honor and glorify Me.

Of all the needs of man, their greatest need is to feel loved! But when hope in God is ignored, the reality of feeling loved is lost!

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#26445 Apr 3, 2013
"Transforming the Homosexual to fit into the American culture!"

Transforming-Verb: To make a thorough or dramatic change in the form, appearance, or character of.

As one studies the homosexual movement in America. There is absolutely no doubt that the entire homosexual transformation is a complete and total facade.

And all designed to give the illusion of normalcy to the homosexual.

And every natural culture norm has been skewed, tweaked and distorted in an attempt to squeeze the homosexual into the American culture.

Homosexuals cannot have children, which means they cannot be considered a family.

Therefore every natural culture norm has been skewed, tweaked and distorted. In an attempt to make the homosexual into the American family as they adopt children. Or have a child created in an attempt to portray themselves as a family. Another attempt to transform them into American culture. But it is all just another facade.

All homosexual adoption is built upon the false premise that children are to be given to homosexuals based upon nothing more then the private purpose to obtain. Based upon the desire for that which one, because of the choices they have made forbids them children by a natural and Godly means!

All homosexual adoption is based upon the homosexuals desire to posses children for a private purpose rather then what is actually best for the child!

Homosexual adoption is nothing more then a slight of hand trick carried out via the state to shift the adoption of children from an essential purpose of society, to the inessential private purpose of the homosexual! As a means to complete their transformation into the American culture.

Homosexuals adopting, like a rainbow is an optical illusion. As a rainbow has no actual end point. And there is really no end point to homosexual adoption. Other then to complete the transformation of the homosexual into the American culture.

Homosexual marriage is also another created reality. And this to has has been skewed, tweaked and distorted in an attempt to squeeze the homosexual into the American culture. Another facade created to put a normal transformation face upon marriage, another natural culture norm.

A government definition of marriage between two homosexuals strikes against the beauty and virtue of what we know as healthy societal norms for all involved.

Homosexual marriage provides no strength, benefits, or usefulness to any future generation's.

At best, all homosexual marriage is self-serving providing nothing of benefit to society as a whole.

All civilizations have derived their stability and longevity since antiquity. Based solely upon the enduring truth that family has perpetuated itself and culture in a true, natural and Godly form.

In order for all natural civilizations to flourish and remain true, those civilizations must be supported via the natural family and not the individual, nor a government created definition of what a natural family is.

And the husband-wife still provide the best soil to produce all future, and virtuous children as all societal norms flourish and propagate themselves.

As societal norms are destroyed, societies are also destroyed from within.

And all attempts to transform sound norms into unsound norms. Will only weaken the nation that attempts to do such.

Right and proper conduct is necessary in order to sustain a civil and prospers society.

No nation can sip honey laced with poison and avoid emotional and moral sickness.

Much of the violence we see today is in reality, symptoms of a host of emotional and moral honey laced poison.

And the entire homosexual agenda has done much to confuse, distort and destroy good Godly norms that have served our nation well.

We have become a very very morally sick nation.

A nation in desperate need of men and women willing to stand up. And speak up for those good and Godly principles that have served our nation. And the children of our nation.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#26446 Apr 3, 2013
A Still Small Voice wrote:
<quoted text>
Before we move on I felt that I should give you a little information concerning the book of
I know Biblical scholars who have have studied Greek and Hebrew who beg to differ with you. They happen to be professors at a Theological School.

I'll take their word over the opinions of an asstroll any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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#26447 Apr 3, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
I know Biblical scholars who have have studied Greek and Hebrew who beg to differ with you. They happen to be professors at a Theological School.
I'll take their word over the opinions of an asstroll any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
{I know Biblical scholars who have have studied Greek and Hebrew who beg to differ with you.}

Good, Then I am sure that they wont mind posting their rebuttal?
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#26448 Apr 3, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
No Rick, you're wrong.
He is always wrong because he isn´t a right thinking dog.
Dogs live in here and now they don´t care about past and future.

Since: Mar 13

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#26449 Apr 3, 2013
Mistle wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I didn't, I asked for your sources supporting your argument.
I would like to go deeper into this idea of adoption and homosexuals adopting.

I feel there may be some misunderstanding concerning the true purpose of adoption.

Clearly the true purpose of adoption in not to provide any couple with children per,se. But rather provide children with the best possible environment to flourish in. Which naturally would have to be a male-female in the home.

There is no question that both a male-female provides the best soil for children to flourish.

The male-female because of the special attributes that God created within them are without question the most beneficial to the child's well being overall.

It is virtually impossible for two men or two women to meet all the complex needs of a child thru out its lifetime.

Study's have shown for example that young girls are less chaste when raised via same sex couples.

Studies have also shown more emotional and psychological problems within children raised via same sex couples.

Scripture will also bare this out.

There are literally hundreds of scripture giving instruction as to how the male-female-children relationship is to function.

But at the same time there is not one scripture that gives any information as to how a homosexual/lesbian/children are to function.

Why? Because God never considered them suitable for marriage and or child rearing.

Once again the best interest of the child must be put first, not political correctness!

And the state placing children with same sex couples and denying the child access to a male-female. Is nothing but state sanctioned child abuse.

Once again the adoption of children can never be based upon the inessential need of the homosexual/lesbian.

As the inessential homosexual/lesbian need is paid for by the essential need of children to enjoy the necessary benefits that the male-female provide as the child flourishes.

Once again I have not posted to be critical. But the truth must be told concerning homosexual/lesbian adoption.

Where would you place your child?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

At least I think we all know the honest answer to that question!

Homosexuals cannot have children, which means they cannot be considered a family.

Therefore every natural culture norm has been skewed, tweaked and distorted. In an attempt to make the homosexual into the American family as they adopt children. Or have a child created in an attempt to portray themselves as a family. Another attempt to transform them into American culture. But it is all just another facade.

All homosexual adoption is built upon the false premise that children are to be given to homosexuals based upon nothing more then the private purpose to obtain. Based upon the desire for that which one, because of the choices they have made forbids them children by a natural and Godly means!

All homosexual adoption is based upon the homosexuals desire to posses children for a private purpose rather then what is actually best for the child!

Homosexual adoption is nothing more then a slight of hand trick carried out via the state to shift the adoption of children from an essential purpose of society, to the inessential private purpose of the homosexual! As a means to complete their transformation into the American culture.

Homosexuals adopting, like a rainbow is an optical illusion. As a rainbow has no actual end point. And there is really no end point to homosexual adoption. Other then to complete the transformation of the homosexual into the American culture.

Since: Mar 13

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#26450 Apr 3, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Dear, you tried this once before. One more time, since you obviously did not pay attention and didn't bother to take notes. Dear, the sins of the Christians of Rome were idolatry and the worship of false Gods. For these sins, God, according to Paul, turned them over to the commission of other sins, a whole laundry list of them which Paul says were the recompense for their idolatry and other Gods and were intended to wake them up to the error of THOSE ways. Yes, Paul writes quite disapprovingly of same sex sexual acts, he wasn't a fan of sex for Christians, period, but you clearly missed the point of his warning and it wasn't about homosexuality, homosexuals or even same sex sexual behavior. But this is what I should expect from someone who reads the Bible in snippets.
A government definition of marriage between two homosexuals strikes against the beauty and virtue of what we know as healthy societal norms for all involved.

Homosexual marriage provides no strength, benefits, or usefulness to any future generation's.

At best, all homosexual marriage is self-serving providing nothing of benefit to society as a whole.

All civilizations have derived their stability and longevity since antiquity. Based solely upon the enduring truth that family has perpetuated itself and culture in a true, natural and Godly form.

In order for all natural civilizations to flourish and remain true, those civilizations must be supported via the natural family and not the individual, nor a government created definition of what a natural family is.

And the husband-wife still provide the best soil to produce all future, and virtuous children as all societal norms flourish and propagate themselves.

As societal norms are destroyed, societies are also destroyed from within.

And all attempts to transform sound norms into unsound norms. Will only weaken the nation that attempts to do such.

Right and proper conduct is necessary in order to sustain a civil and prospers society.

No nation can sip honey laced with poison and avoid emotional and moral sickness.

Much of the violence we see today is in reality, symptoms of a host of emotional and moral honey laced poison.

And the entire homosexual agenda has done much to confuse, distort and destroy good Godly norms that have served our nation well.

We have become a very very morally sick nation.

A nation in desperate need of men and women willing to stand up. And speak up for those good and Godly principles that have served our nation. And the children of our nation.

I have not written to be critical, but the truth of what is really going on must be told.

Since: Mar 13

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#26452 Apr 3, 2013
To more fully understand this homosexual craze occurring today in the U.S. One must remember it can take years for investments to pay off.

And this homosexual investment is no different.

As I have explained, this has all been orchestrated years in advance via Wall Street.

And investors always study the timing and social acceptance of such investments.

Now there is something that you must remember concerning the marketing of the homosexual.

Yes, The homosexual has literally been marketed much the same way other commodities are marketed.

Also remember that these intellectuals that market commodities are much more brilliant then the common homosexual.

Again, there is no genuine support for the homosexual and homosexual issues outside of any financial interest.

So this brings us to an honest and reasonable question?

What was the first thing that these intellectuals that market commodities have to do to market the common homosexual?

And the answer is very simple!

They had to clean them up!

They had to talk them out of their black leather and chains. The had to put a shirt on them and remove their speedos.

They had to tone down the gay pride parades as much as possible. Remove the lip stick, eye shadow from the men etc.

They had to perfume them and gift wrap them in Armani suits.

And the most polished had to have positions created for them to garner public exposure and recognition.

And all done via a huge marketing campaign.

Yes make no mistake about it, billions were spent!

Now, there is something else that you must understand.

None of this elaborate marketing will ever pay off if the public is not on board!

So, what's the next marketing nuance that must be completed?

The answer is again very simple!

They spent billions to weaken all moral culture norms. And they started with the political corruption already alive and well for the taking!

And the family was the next inroad to marketing the homosexual.

Piped into millions of homes by one Ellen DeGeneres.

Why Ellen? There was two reasons for Ellen.

One, She is an female, which makes her a little more palatable.

Two, Comedy to lighten the appeal. She is very cutesie, and appears harmless. The marketing was genius no question.

They could not start with Rosie O'donnell, Good Lord!

The next inroad was organized religion.

But why organized religion?

There were two reasons.

One, Because they saw there was no strong opposition. They figured out that the ministers had no deep conviction on the matter. And were intellectually incapable of debating homosexual issues outside of scripture.

They had figured out that many of these large churches were nothing more then secular social clubs. Ran by individuals that had sold their convictions for a morsel of bread.

Watch the interviews when their asked about homosexual issues. They literally shake in their shoes to answer! And this is what the Wall Street boys picked up on!

And with that came the collapse of the will of the believers to stand for morality. And the marketing of the homosexual to America remains unfettered.

There are other nuances involved as well, but I can only share so much at one time because of space limits here to post.

But this I believe will help you understand what has gone on behind the veil of darkness for years.

Yes the homosexual lives daily with the illusion that they are lifted up, they are not.

Little do they know that they are really nothing more then another commodity to be exploited at the hands of the wealthy!

There is no parental or national support whatsoever.

Even our bisexual President has used them as an political commodity to garner votes when he sensed defeat. And only then at the eleventh hour of desperation did he cash them in! And that is the absolute truth!
Blake

Livonia, MI

#26453 Apr 3, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text> unsafe reptive anal sex with other men, a category which includes gay, bisexual and straight men are disproportionately effected not because of their sexual orientation, but because of how the virus transmits from host to host.
#1 a man having anal sex cannot be straight. By definition he is gay or at least bi sexual.
#2 anal sex leads to tearing of rectal tissue, then bleeding and fecal infections into these tears. This occurs with or without a condom, which is why gay men have such a high rate of anal cancer, and other infections/ diseases from anal sex.
There is no way to justify gay sex as a healthy physical activity. Just as there is no way to justify a family without a father or without a mother as serving the best interests of the children.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#26454 Apr 3, 2013
A Still Small Voice wrote:
<quoted text>
{I know Biblical scholars who have have studied Greek and Hebrew who beg to differ with you.}
Good, Then I am sure that they wont mind posting their rebuttal?
Been there, done that, and what I've learned (from others) is that your mind is absolutely firmly made up already . Further, you're just not worth the time and trouble.
Good created me, as I am. He loves me, warts and all. I wasn't created to live a life of shame and you weren't created to shame me. Your beliefs have absolutely no bearing on my life which, btw, is pretty damned fabulous.

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#26455 Apr 3, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Been there, done that, and what I've learned (from others) is that your mind is absolutely firmly made up already . Further, you're just not worth the time and trouble.
Good created me, as I am. He loves me, warts and all. I wasn't created to live a life of shame and you weren't created to shame me. Your beliefs have absolutely no bearing on my life which, btw, is pretty damned fabulous.
Look, You have emotionally gutted your parents, isn't that bad enough. You should just be still!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#26456 Apr 3, 2013
A Still Small Voice wrote:
I would like to continue...
Sweetie, you are still not paying attention to what you claim to be replying to. I really couldn't care less how you rationalize your prayer that God hates homosexuals/homosexuality/homo sexual behavior/and/or/your own homoerotic fantasies as much as you want him to. I've read the Bible, your homophobic version of God, not in there. You have made your free will choice to place your bets on a bigoted version of God, good luck with that.

Since you are so fond of scripture, here's some for you: Matthew 7:15-23.

Since: Mar 13

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#26458 Apr 3, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, you are still not paying attention to what you claim to be replying to. I really couldn't care less how you rationalize your prayer that God hates homosexuals/homosexuality/homo sexual behavior/and/or/your own homoerotic fantasies as much as you want him to. I've read the Bible, your homophobic version of God, not in there. You have made your free will choice to place your bets on a bigoted version of God, good luck with that.
Since you are so fond of scripture, here's some for you: Matthew 7:15-23.
God only ordained heterosexuality not homosexuality or lesbianism.

Also to affirm that moral laws themselves change is misinformed for several reasons. It confuses unchanging moral values with changing moral practices.

That is, it confuses morals and mores. It confuses an absolute moral command with our relative comprehension of it.

For example, my understanding of love has changed over the past 70 + years. But love has not changed. Claiming that morals can change confuses facts and values.

And to the degree that moral principles reflect the nature and will of God. They cannot change his basic moral character and the will he established for all society's to flourish.

As those society's function within the precepts and principles regarding morality that he has established for all time.

And all homosexuality, lesbianism and homosexual pedophilia are clearly outside of those norms. And should never be acceptable as proper morality for a society, much less a civil right to commit such vile acts.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#26459 Apr 3, 2013
A Still Small Voice wrote:
A government definition of marriage between two homosexuals strikes against the beauty and virtue of what we know as healthy societal norms for all involved.
A governmental definition of marriage which excludes same sex couples strikes against the very principles which this nation stands for, personal liberty and equal treatment under the law. You might find same sex marriages to be ugly sweetie, but that would be your problem, not ours.
A Still Small Voice wrote:
Homosexual marriage provides no strength, benefits, or usefulness to any future generation's.
Says the closed-minded fool. Many same sex couples are raising the next generation moron and seeing gay and lesbian role models in committed and legally recognized marriages gives future generations of gays and lesbians something beneficial and real to hope for.
A Still Small Voice wrote:
At best, all homosexual marriage is self-serving providing nothing of benefit to society as a whole.
All marriages, regardless of their gender construct are essentially self-serving sweetie. You may not believe that same sex marriages provide no benefit, but your evident religiously rationalized bigotry is clearly in the way. Same sex couples will benefit from the legal rights, benefits, protections and obligations associated with marriage, their children will benefit from having legally married parents, future generations of gays and lesbians will grow up knowing that they are nobody's legal inferior, even with fools like you telling us you pray that we are your moral inferiors.
A Still Small Voice wrote:
All civilizations have derived their stability and longevity since antiquity. Based solely upon the enduring truth that family has perpetuated itself and culture in a true, natural and Godly form.
Sweetie, there have been many forms of marriage and family throughout the course of human history, including same sex marriages. Just a reminder, your problems with same sex marriages and any you claim your choice of versions of God has with them, not our problem.
A Still Small Voice wrote:
In order for all natural civilizations to flourish and remain true, those civilizations must be supported via the natural family and not the individual, nor a government created definition of what a natural family is.
Sweetie, your definition of a "natural family", not the only one recognized now and never has been.
A Still Small Voice wrote:
And the husband-wife still provide the best soil to produce all future, and virtuous children as all societal norms flourish and propagate themselves.
As societal norms are destroyed, societies are also destroyed from within.
Except in the far too many instances where the husband and wife never should have also become father and mother. Sometimes that soil is downright dangerous and has produced a bumper crop of unwanted and abused children. Not all heterosexual couples should have children dear, some of you are seriously bad at it.
A Still Small Voice wrote:
And all attempts to transform sound norms into unsound norms. Will only weaken the nation that attempts to do such...
As to the rest of your holier than though diatribe, just a reminder, your problems with same sex marriages, not our problem. The only sickness here is your own, the certitude that you and you alone speak on behalf of that which is righteous and on behalf of God.

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