“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#24964 Dec 6, 2012
Bet Me wrote:
Read Romans Chapter 1. It clearly states the truth.
You mean where Paul says that God gave presumably heterosexual Romans of the Christian faith over to same sex sexual acts that freaked the abstinent Paul all kinds of out and then an assortment of other sins both large and small as payback for their being foolish enough to believe in other Gods in the neighborhood? Spoiler alert! You might want to actually read through Chapter 2, Paul takes a rather dim view of what you are trying to do to us with Chapter 1.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#24965 Dec 6, 2012
winfredable wrote:
gayness is worng and wrong ...don't need to prove it.
This mindset is anyone else's problem but your own, how exactly?
GZ GZ

Brussels, Belgium

#24966 Dec 6, 2012
skeleton christ wrote:
That's right; prove it. Keep your religion out of it. I want scientific proof that it is wrong to be gay, and wrong to commit gay acts. If you can't come up with a better reason than "well, it's in the Bible" Then don't even bother trying to convince me.
2 gay dudes can't reproduce. Neither can 2 chicks. Love is really just the feeling you have when you want to have sex, and there are 2 sexes for a reason. If there would only be one, love would not exist. And gays "loving" is just a friendship gone too far.
Jeff1996

Augusta, GA

#24967 Dec 6, 2012
The_Box wrote:
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Given that the Earth is already overpopulated, why would it be God's plan for people to continue to reproduce in high numbers?
So if being gay is a good thing because it limits the number of people on the Earth, then murder, cancer, aids, and other horrible diseases or deformities are just as good as being gay? Not a very good argument for supporting gays.
Jeff1996

Augusta, GA

#24968 Dec 6, 2012
GZ GZ wrote:
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2 gay dudes can't reproduce. Neither can 2 chicks. Love is really just the feeling you have when you want to have sex, and there are 2 sexes for a reason. If there would only be one, love would not exist. And gays "loving" is just a friendship gone too far.
True dat true dat, gay relations is lust not love.
Jeff1996

Augusta, GA

#24969 Dec 6, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>If you say so dear, but not in this instance, the earliest known copies of Leviticus all agree, this is one of those instances where man only means man.
Doesn't change the fact that God made one man and one woman the be together. If he had made a man and a man or a woman or a woman then none of us would be here no would we? eh tinker bell?

Since: Dec 11

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#24970 Dec 6, 2012
Jeff1996 wrote:
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So if being gay is a good thing because it limits the number of people on the Earth, then murder, cancer, aids, and other horrible diseases or deformities are just as good as being gay? Not a very good argument for supporting gays.
I'd say there's a rather large difference between killing existing people and not making more.
Jeff1996

Augusta, GA

#24971 Dec 6, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Um sweetie, if that is really what you want to believe, more power to you, but if you had actually bothered to read that book you keep threatening me with, you'd know that Adam and Eve actually followed the creation of the gay in the creation story and while there was a death threat by same sex gang rape which was the given last straw in the God's genocide of every last soul in five cities, if there were any "homosexual trash" actually in the crowd that night, it was the least of their problems. Read your own damn book for crying out loud. <quoted text>So you pray. Good luck with that one.
Wow your'e even dumber than I thought, I'm not sure if you're trying to say God made gays before adam and eve or if you're trying to say adam and eve were gay either way then you have created your very own level of ignorance, congrats tinker bell. Lol you can't even read the first book of the Bible correctly.

As for what you say about Sodom and Gomorrah, God was already gonna burn the little freaks up before the gay trash tried raping the angels. The only reason he didn't do it right away is because there was but one normal family in the cities with enough sense to obey God and the laws of nature. which lead to whole reason why the angels were in the city in the first place, so they could tell the normal good family to leave the city before God destroys it and all the gay trash inside it.
Jeff1996

Augusta, GA

#24972 Dec 6, 2012
The_Box wrote:
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I'd say there's a rather large difference between killing existing people and not making more.
I'm just saying, you claim being gay is good because it limits population growth, if that is passes for normal or a good thing nowadays then that must also mean murder, diseases, and birth defects are also good.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#24973 Dec 6, 2012
Jeff1996 wrote:
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I'm just saying, you claim being gay is good because it limits population growth, if that is passes for normal or a good thing nowadays then that must also mean murder, diseases, and birth defects are also good.
No, I didn't say it was good for limiting population growth. I don't consider it morally good OR bad, just like heterosexuality isn't morally good OR bad.

My response was merely a rebuttal to your argument that population growth was inherently good, which it is not.
Jeff1996

Augusta, GA

#24975 Dec 6, 2012
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I didn't say it was good for limiting population growth. I don't consider it morally good OR bad, just like heterosexuality isn't morally good OR bad.
My response was merely a rebuttal to your argument that population growth was inherently good, which it is not.
It certainly sounded like that was what you were suggesting. Homosexuality is bad because it breaks the laws of nature and biologically speaking how can it be right if one of the things that makes a living being a normal living being is reproduction? Your rebuttal falls flat because you can't give any good reasons why homosexuality is good.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#24976 Dec 7, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, we weren't speaking about homosexuality now were we? You asked me which of the 600+ commandments laid down by God that not even the most Orthodox of followers follow. Remember? No wonder you get so many little light bulbs for your comments, everybody can see you sitting in the dark. On the subject of homosexuality, even Orthodox Jews are finding themselves revisiting what they want to believe God's opinion really is. It is getting better even for Lesbian and Gay Orthodox Jews. Think about it.
What do u call a Jew who's gay?
He blew.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#24977 Dec 7, 2012
Jeff1996 wrote:
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I'm just saying, you claim being gay is good because it limits population growth, if that is passes for normal or a good thing nowadays then that must also mean murder, diseases, and birth defects are also good.
Sounds like Malthus.
Barney

Battle Lake, MN

#24978 Dec 7, 2012
You had a Mother and a Father and can be sumed up in one word =" PROCREATION "
Crystal

Australia

#24979 Dec 7, 2012
Majority of the species on this planet engage in sexual activities despite the gender of their partner. Humans are the only species on this planet to suffer, yes SUFFER, from homophobia
I bet that half the people rattling on about how wrong it is to be a gay man have watched lesbian porn and liked it.
Crystal

Australia

#24980 Dec 7, 2012
And to everyone else talking about procreation. Open your eyes to the world outside your own city or country. There aren't enough resources on this planet to sustain the population as it is

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#24981 Dec 7, 2012
Jeff1996 wrote:
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Homosexuality is bad because it breaks the laws of nature and biologically speaking how can it be right if one of the things that makes a living being a normal living being is reproduction?
What exactly are the laws of nature, and why is it wrong to break any?

If 'normal' is reproducing, is anyone who doesn't choose to have children immoral?

Wouldn't it be wrong for a gay person to pretend to be straight in order to have children? They would be lying to their spouse.
Jeff1996 wrote:
Your rebuttal falls flat because you can't give any good reasons why homosexuality is good.
I don't need to because that's not my stance. It's amoral, like heterosexuality.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#24982 Dec 7, 2012
GZ GZ wrote:
2 gay dudes can't reproduce. Neither can 2 chicks. Love is really just the feeling you have when you want to have sex, and there are 2 sexes for a reason. If there would only be one, love would not exist. And gays "loving" is just a friendship gone too far.
There are opposite sex couples which either can't or won't be reproducing, are they "wrong" too?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#24983 Dec 7, 2012
Jeff1996 wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that God made one man and one woman the be together.
Sweetie, if that is what you want to choose to believe, believe to your heart's content. It's just a shame for you that more and more people are listening to that point of view, shaking their heads and are now supporting the legal rights of same sex couples.
Jeff1996 wrote:
If he had made a man and a man or a woman or a woman then none of us would be here no would we? eh tinker bell?
Sweetie, my reading of Genesis is that God made the gay, right along with the rest of humanity in the first week, the story of him taking Adam and creating Eve for him is a project he took up in week 2. Adam and Eve are nothing more than the first believers in this God, what they clearly aren't, is the first humans and the sole ancestors of all of us in the species.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#24984 Dec 7, 2012
Jeff1996 wrote:
Wow your'e even dumber than I thought, I'm not sure if you're trying to say God made gays before adam and eve or if you're trying to say adam and eve were gay either way then you have created your very own level of ignorance, congrats tinker bell. Lol you can't even read the first book of the Bible correctly.
Cupcake, you're confused and yet I am the dumb one? Fascinating. Have you ever actually read Genesis? If Adam was the sole man created by God in the making of the species, what happened to the woman created before Eve? He takes only the man Adam to Eden, but he created them both male and female back in Chapter 1. If God didn't create a whole slew of other folk, which would have included the gay folk, in addition to Adam, the text immediately causes problems for the literal. By the by, you do realize that not even the folk for whom Genesis was originally written read it literally?
Jeff1996 wrote:
As for what you say about Sodom and Gomorrah, God was already gonna burn the little freaks up before the gay trash tried raping the angels. The only reason he didn't do it right away is because there was but one normal family in the cities with enough sense to obey God and the laws of nature. which lead to whole reason why the angels were in the city in the first place, so they could tell the normal good family to leave the city before God destroys it and all the gay trash inside it.
Again sweetie, if that is the reading of it you wanna believe in, knock yourself out. Just realize that there is absolutely NOTHING in the Bible which actually supports such a belief and that the "tradition" behind your belief that God wiped out S&G etc for no other reason than the gay folk is only about 90 years old. If you're trying to convince me that you know something that I don't, you're failing miserably.

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