Gun Control
Force Majeure

Sweden

#127 Dec 31, 2012
positron wrote:
The second amendment is there so that the people can defend themselves against a corrupt government.
So it states that in the Constipation: "Defend yourselves against a corrupt government". Is that what it says?
JESUS

Point Cook, Australia

#128 Dec 31, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
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So it states that in the Constipation: "Defend yourselves against a corrupt government". Is that what it says?
Oh, I get it. so that's why they keep asassinating their presidents.
JESUS

Point Cook, Australia

#129 Dec 31, 2012
UR BS wrote:
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You are a fool!
The right to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed. They didn't say the right to keep and bare Muskets they said arms. Semis are todays arms.
You lose live with it stop living in your fantasy world.
By the way the SCOTUS has still not agreed with you on any of this so stop crying like a little Btch and get over it.
By the way still waiting on those winning lotto numbers since you seem to be able to see the future there tinkerbell.
You really are a fuckwit aren't You?

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#130 Dec 31, 2012
JESUS wrote:
<quoted text>You really are a fuckwit aren't You?
So the idiot from Swedene now has another idiot to talk to! Good for you 2 now go play and let the grownups talk.
swxxxt

Ellwood City, PA

#131 Dec 31, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
Guns that control Humans?
JUST ME

United States

#132 Dec 31, 2012
swxxxt wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=AAEs_9Y-8a o
Guns that control Humans?
Of course, in todays society guns are an expression of ones manhood, it's a phallic symbol, "OH! look! my gun's bigger than your gun" Following along those lines I doubt if many know how to properly use their gun, but it sure is a big one.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#133 Dec 31, 2012
JESUS wrote:
<quoted text>You really are a fuckwit aren't You?
Oh, he's definitly that alright. So is the idiot he hangs with.

You see these two say that to "bare arms" should be taken literally in the sense that ALL WEAPONS (past, present and future) apply to the term "arms" but NOT literally enough to mean bodily limbs, ie. "arms".

Note that we haven't yet touched upon the use of the word "bare"! That ought to be fun!

I say "blessed are the cheesmakers" - meaning quite obviously producers of all dairy products.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#134 Dec 31, 2012
JUST ME wrote:
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Of course, in todays society guns are an expression of ones manhood, it's a phallic symbol, "OH! look! my gun's bigger than your gun" Following along those lines I doubt if many know how to properly use their gun, but it sure is a big one.
Very well said, Just You.

“Ignorance is a choice..”

Since: Dec 12

Searcy

#135 Dec 31, 2012
Can we all just learn some American History please? Is that too much to ask? Don't comment if your that ignorant. IT SAYS

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]

That, right there. The militia were common people, not the military. We have the right to be equally armed so we have a fighting chance against a corrupt government. Why anyone wouldn't want to be able to defend themselves is beyond me.

I'd like to point out how many freedoms, and rights have been infringed on already. All you have to do it try to get on a plane and it becomes painfully clear. When it comes to the airport, you have no rights. We are moving into a time where we are guilty until proven otherwise, instead of the other way around. It is scary and I for one would like to be able to protect myself. Please, feel free to remain defenseless.
Elohimsokie

Stillwater, OK

#136 Dec 31, 2012
positron wrote:
Can we all just learn some American History please? Is that too much to ask? Don't comment if your that ignorant. IT SAYS
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]
That, right there. The militia were common people, not the military. We have the right to be equally armed so we have a fighting chance against a corrupt government. Why anyone wouldn't want to be able to defend themselves is beyond me.
I'd like to point out how many freedoms, and rights have been infringed on already. All you have to do it try to get on a plane and it becomes painfully clear. When it comes to the airport, you have no rights. We are moving into a time where we are guilty until proven otherwise, instead of the other way around. It is scary and I for one would like to be able to protect myself. Please, feel free to remain defenseless.
Very well said. People who competly trust in goverment have a mental problem. In the end they'll all become slaves.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#137 Dec 31, 2012
positron wrote:
Can we all just learn some American History please? Is that too much to ask?
An excellent idea, Positron! I'm glad to see someone is using his head and thinking clear. Let's see - American History:

The American flag is the flag that brought Black people to this country in chains, buying and selling them as slaves. Many of those 13 stripes on the flag stand for slave states.

And where did those stars come from? Many of them represent states stolen from Mexico in an unprovoked, unjust war of conquest to extend the U.S. empire, and within that the slave states in the South.

This is the flag carried into battle by the U.S. Cavalry as it carried out genocide against the Native Americans, murdering, burning and pillaging a bloody trail across the country.

This is the flag that invaded and conquered Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines, killing hundreds of thousands in 1898.

This is the flag that killed two million in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia with napalm, carpet bombing, death squads and village massacres.

This is the flag that twice made war on the people of Iraq, invading and occupying, killing hundreds of thousands.

The American flag is the flag that proclaims the right to go anywhere in the world and invade any country that it claims is a potential threat to the U.S.

This is the flag that economically dominates and devastates vast areas of the globe, ruining the lives of billions.

This is the flag that holds thousands of people in Guantánamo and secret prisons throughout the world, proclaiming the right to torture and jail them forever.

And this is the flag over prisons that hold two million people, many of them Black and Latino, mostly for the crime of being hungry, poor, and desperate.

This is the flag of U.S. imperialism and its global empire. Even the rights and freedoms this system brags about—to the extent they are anything but total lies—are built on the blood and bones of those they murder and work to death here and around the world to create the prosperity you see in la jaula de oro (the cage of gold).

“Ignorance is a choice..”

Since: Dec 12

Searcy

#138 Dec 31, 2012
I'm confused are you trying to blame the American PEOPLE for that? It's not like we vote on war. I completely agree with you that we stick our nose where it does not belong but it is not by any means a representation of the American people themselves. Citizens, and even soldiers are misrepresented by our government. Our voting system is corrupt, our politicians are corrupt, our entire government is corrupt. This is the most dangerous time to take away our defense, and that my friends, is the plan. And I'm a her, thank you very much.

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#139 Dec 31, 2012
Oh the Swede is playing holier than thou? Wekk how about this for History dickwad?
"The Swedish slave trade occurred in the early history of Sweden, and again during the 17th century, around the time Swedish overseas colonies were established in North America (1638) and in Africa (1650). It remained legal until 1813.

Sweden had treaties with England[1][2] and France[3] concerning slave trade, with Swedish vessels involved in the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Between 1784 and 1878, the country held minor colonies in the Caribbean. The Swedish island Saint-Barthélemy functioned as a duty free port and became a major center for the Caribbean slave trade. Slaves were brought in tax free by both Swedish and foreign vessels and the Swedish authorities made a profit by collecting an export tax when slaves were shipped out. Sweden was also a major supplier of iron chains used in the slave trade.[4]"

Yep you Swedes are pure as the driven snow!

What a hypocrite you are!
Elohimsokie

Stillwater, OK

#140 Dec 31, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
An excellent idea, Positron! I'm glad to see someone is using his head and thinking clear. Let's see - American History:
The American flag is the flag that brought Black people to this country in chains, buying and selling them as slaves. Many of those 13 stripes on the flag stand for slave states.
And where did those stars come from? Many of them represent states stolen from Mexico in an unprovoked, unjust war of conquest to extend the U.S. empire, and within that the slave states in the South.
This is the flag carried into battle by the U.S. Cavalry as it carried out genocide against the Native Americans, murdering, burning and pillaging a bloody trail across the country.
This is the flag that invaded and conquered Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines, killing hundreds of thousands in 1898.
This is the flag that killed two million in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia with napalm, carpet bombing, death squads and village massacres.
This is the flag that twice made war on the people of Iraq, invading and occupying, killing hundreds of thousands.
The American flag is the flag that proclaims the right to go anywhere in the world and invade any country that it claims is a potential threat to the U.S.
This is the flag that economically dominates and devastates vast areas of the globe, ruining the lives of billions.
This is the flag that holds thousands of people in Guantánamo and secret prisons throughout the world, proclaiming the right to torture and jail them forever.
And this is the flag over prisons that hold two million people, many of them Black and Latino, mostly for the crime of being hungry, poor, and desperate.
This is the flag of U.S. imperialism and its global empire. Even the rights and freedoms this system brags about—to the extent they are anything but total lies—are built on the blood and bones of those they murder and work to death here and around the world to create the prosperity you see in la jaula de oro (the cage of gold).
All of this is why we're going to keep our guns. Your confused about the gov. and the people.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#141 Dec 31, 2012
positron wrote:
I'm confused are you trying to blame the American PEOPLE for that? It's not like we vote on war. I completely agree with you that we stick our nose where it does not belong but it is not by any means a representation of the American people themselves. Citizens, and even soldiers are misrepresented by our government. Our voting system is corrupt, our politicians are corrupt, our entire government is corrupt.
Take it easy, my friend. I blame the Amercian people, yes, but not as far as you think I do.

How many Americans (precentage wise) feel the way that you do? Not very many? No. Americans are very stupid people ..... excuse me .... I meant to say that Americans are under-educated, which does make them rather stupid. OK, so you're an exception? Maybe. Good. Now raise the percentage of the American population who see that they are being duped, manipulated, cheated, misrepresented. When you've done that you need one more ingrediant: call it violence, civil disobediance, "mighty angry people". Calculate the number of people needed who can face the police clubs and push right through anyway. Smash windows. Tear down walls. Fill the cells. Are you too young to remember Martin Luther King? Too young too to know how the Berlin Wall and Iron Curtain fell? MASSES OF PEOPLE who decided that Liberty or Death is the real deal. Yes, I blame the American people. They don't have the guts to charge the gates.
positron wrote:
This is the most dangerous time to take away our defense, and that my friends, is the plan. And I'm a her, thank you very much.
First you convinced me that you are smart - but then this? Your national defense is an Iron Curtain against yourselves. The Soviet Union said the wall was to keep out the nasty Capitalists and in a similar way your national defense is the same sort of lie. Your danger is as much internal as the USSR was. But I really thought you were smart enough to know that. Instead you think in terms of external forces out to get you. You're not so bright after all. But of course you're talking about individual defense against those angry men that you foster by supporting your corrupt government - NOT because of potential gun laws - but because those angry men have nothing to lose. Why shouldn't they rob and steal? How else should they live? You keep telling them that their situation is their own fault and when you push a man so far he snaps. You should be joining him and tear down that "misprepresentation - your corrupt voting system - corrupt politicians - corrupt government". Isn't that what you said they are? So .........
positron wrote:
..... are you trying to blame the American PEOPLE for that?
...... who else should I blame? OK, so now I know that you're "a her" but you can still get some balls and do something about your country. Do you expect me to do it?
Elohimsokie

Stillwater, OK

#142 Dec 31, 2012
JESUS wrote:
<quoted text>You really are a fuckwit aren't You?
Your name tells it all.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#143 Dec 31, 2012
UR BS wrote:
"The Swedish slave trade occurred in the early history of Sweden
* Let me get this straight ... you're saying Sweden's role in slave trade (before you had a country) is the reason why you Americans TODAY murder people daily at shopping malls, cinemas, kindergartens, primary schools, high schools, colleges, universities, post offices, churhces, and "drive-bys"? Like, it's OUR FAULT?

* Or are you saying that it's alright for you Americans TODAY to murder people daily at shopping malls, cinemas, kindergartens, primary schools, high schools, colleges, universities, post offices, churhces, and "drive-bys" - because Sweden dealt in the slave trade before you had a country?

FOOTNOTE: The 1700's is NOT "early history of Sweden" Our history goes back long before Christ was born. MY CITY alone was established about 5 or 6 thousand years before your country was and about 3 thousand years before your country was even discovered. That's only MY PARTICULAR CITY!

You have much to learn, grasshopper, and you haven't even begun.

Since: Feb 12

Germany

#144 Dec 31, 2012
Why are these idiots sticking their noses in where they don't belong anyway?
Elohimsokie

Stillwater, OK

#145 Dec 31, 2012
UR BS wrote:
Why are these idiots sticking their noses in where they don't belong anyway?
I was wondering the same thing.

“Ignorance is a choice..”

Since: Dec 12

Searcy

#146 Dec 31, 2012
Hell no I don't expect you to do it. I expect my fellow American's to get off their ass and wake up.

The problem with people is that they just do not care unless it is directly affecting their lives. They will ignore, block out, and completely deny cold hard facts until they are backed into a corner and have nowhere to go and then it will hit them like a ton of bricks. Then it gets dangerous for my family and I. My two very young children who need me to protect them.

A lot of what you said is actually true. Many people are not paying attention to the right information. Our media lies to us on a daily basis about anything and everything and yet people run CNN and Fox News in their living room 24/7.

If you ask me we ALL need to grow some balls and tell our government to get out of our business and give us our country back.

I am 24 years old, I had nothing to do with slaves. What my ancestors did was beyond my control. I didn't exist yet. If you want to blame someone for that, blame the ones who did it, not me.

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