Gun Control
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#780 Feb 6, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
So you collect guns as a hobby. That's fair.
So what is your solution to reducing gun violence? The U.S. does statistically have a much higher incidence of gun violence (the kind where one quack walks into a public area shooting everyone).
The U.S. gov. is involved in alot of these shootings for political reasons and the U.N. Agenda 21.
All lawbiding citizens should be armed.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#781 Feb 6, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
So you collect guns as a hobby. That's fair.
So what is your solution to reducing gun violence? The U.S. does statistically have a much higher incidence of gun violence (the kind where one quack walks into a public area shooting everyone).
Actually, the USA rates at about 12th in gun violence compared globally to other nations.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...

Death by violence crimes would probably be much higher in The USA if gun ownership was restricted.
For instance, look at who is on the top of the charts:
http://www.bing.com/images/search...

South Africa rates number four in gun homicides per 100,000 persons;
http://www.bing.com/images/search...

Clearly the problem is not guns, it is the lack of armed good people.

To wit: Current FBI statistics show more people are killed by hammers and clubs in the US each year than by handguns.
If more people were armed with handguns, less people would die by bludgeoning.

Admit the obvious truth.
A nation of well armed good people is a safer place to live.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#782 Feb 6, 2013


You need to listen and pay attention to what is going on around you.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#783 Feb 6, 2013
Perhaps this looks familiar to you:

http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_wa...

Rather than doing so quickly they have done so gradually so they can hide their agenda in plain sight.
Klink

El Dorado Springs, MO

#784 Feb 6, 2013
>"So what is your solution to reducing gun violence?"

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Violence in the cities? We can admit most of the violence is found in the cities. The most violent US cities are the Sanctuary Cities: Chicago; Oakland & Compton California, have recently been in the news.

The open-border multiculturalism is the cause of the violence, not guns.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#785 Feb 6, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the USA rates at about 12th in gun violence compared globally to other nations.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
Death by violence crimes would probably be much higher in The USA if gun ownership was restricted.
For instance, look at who is on the top of the charts:
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
South Africa rates number four in gun homicides per 100,000 persons;
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
Clearly the problem is not guns, it is the lack of armed good people.
To wit: Current FBI statistics show more people are killed by hammers and clubs in the US each year than by handguns.
If more people were armed with handguns, less people would die by bludgeoning.
Admit the obvious truth.
A nation of well armed good people is a safer place to live.
In terms of mass shootings, the US ranks highest.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidesto...

"US GUN LAWS:

The right to bear arms is set out in the 2nd amendment to the US constitution
Since 1982 there have been at least 62 mass murders with guns in the country
In the last 50 years, 15 out of 25 mass shootings took place in the US
The US has the highest gun ownership per capita in the world with nine guns for every 10 people in the country
A study has shown that minors are 13 times more likely to be murdered with guns in the US
After Australia tightened its gun laws in 1996, murders with guns dropped 40 per cent"

15 out of 25 mass shootings took place in the U.S..

And granted, it's good to have armed good people. But how do you know who is a good person? Or how do you know who will remain a good person after you have given them a gun? People can be sane upon acquiring the gun, but then go insane for whatever other reason and then start shooting others.

You make good points. All things considered, the overwhelming amount of gun owners don't pose any threat to other innocent people. It doesn't stand to reason that every gun owner must be punished for a few quacks gone on a rampage. And in many areas, people really do need guns to defend themselves since the police are useless in many areas.

But what other ideas do you have to avoid these mass shootings? Do you think if everyone else was armed, things would've gone down better? In that school shooting, should the teachers have had guns?
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#786 Feb 7, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>Its our right to keep as many guns as we want. We don't need to explain why.
Isaias 1
19 If you be willing, and wil hearken to me, you shall eat the
good things of the land.
20 But if you will not, and will provoke me to wrath, the sword
shall devour you because the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

“Why not”

Since: Feb 09

Mine

#787 Feb 7, 2013
Force manure is a Totalfuckingoieceoflowlifeshit

gofuckyourselfdouche if you dont know how i am sure your dad will show you
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#788 Feb 7, 2013
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
Isaias 1
19 If you be willing, and wil hearken to me, you shall eat the
good things of the land.
20 But if you will not, and will provoke me to wrath, the sword
shall devour you because the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.
Luke-22;36.....he that hath no sword let him sell his garment and buy one.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#789 Feb 7, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
In terms of mass shootings, the US ranks highest.
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidesto...
"US GUN LAWS:
The right to bear arms is set out in the 2nd amendment to the US constitution
Since 1982 there have been at least 62 mass murders with guns in the country
In the last 50 years, 15 out of 25 mass shootings took place in the US
The US has the highest gun ownership per capita in the world with nine guns for every 10 people in the country
A study has shown that minors are 13 times more likely to be murdered with guns in the US
After Australia tightened its gun laws in 1996, murders with guns dropped 40 per cent"
15 out of 25 mass shootings took place in the U.S..
And granted, it's good to have armed good people. But how do you know who is a good person? Or how do you know who will remain a good person after you have given them a gun? People can be sane upon acquiring the gun, but then go insane for whatever other reason and then start shooting others.
You make good points. All things considered, the overwhelming amount of gun owners don't pose any threat to other innocent people. It doesn't stand to reason that every gun owner must be punished for a few quacks gone on a rampage. And in many areas, people really do need guns to defend themselves since the police are useless in many areas.
But what other ideas do you have to avoid these mass shootings? Do you think if everyone else was armed, things would've gone down better? In that school shooting, should the teachers have had guns?
You really trust Al Jazeera as an unbiased source regarding USA stats?
That's funnier that Ahmadinijad being rocketed into space.

If you take a look just south of the US border you will find mass shootings happening in an all too frequent bloody cycle and much, much more often than any in the USA.

There's so many mass shootings in Mexico, Obama's Attorney General had to smuggle them guns just so the Mexican drug cartels could keep killing!
Itsy Bitsy Spider

Salt Lake City, UT

#790 Feb 7, 2013
Thank God that nobody ever used Gasoline to kill people with! Can you imagine what life would be like without that stuff?*Shudder*

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#791 Feb 8, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
You really trust Al Jazeera as an unbiased source regarding USA stats?
That's funnier that Ahmadinijad being rocketed into space.
If you take a look just south of the US border you will find mass shootings happening in an all too frequent bloody cycle and much, much more often than any in the USA.
There's so many mass shootings in Mexico, Obama's Attorney General had to smuggle them guns just so the Mexican drug cartels could keep killing!
No news network is ever unbiased. They are all funded either from government or by shareholders. That makes any news network as good as the next. Why would you trust any American network? Obviously they'll give a rosier than usual picture of the U.S.

Sure other countries have their violence, many of them are more violent than the U.S.. Mexico has their drug cartels, even my country got its horrible murder rate.

In terms of gang violence, opportunistic robbery, murder, the U.S. isn't so bad, comparatively speaking. But specifically the act of a single madman walking in with multiple guns and just shooting everyone, is an issue that plagues the U.S. the most.

Maybe it would help if more innocent people had guns. Then the madman would be shot during his rampage and the deaths overall would be less. WOuld've been nice if some of the teachers at Conneticut had guns to take down that madman before he shot 26 people.

But you know who will benefit the most if everyone gets a gun? The arms manufacturers. They'll take your money and buy a fake island in Dubai. Your country gets poorer.
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#792 Feb 8, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
You really trust Al Jazeera as an unbiased source regarding USA stats?
That's funnier that Ahmadinijad being rocketed into space.
If you take a look just south of the US border you will find mass shootings happening in an all too frequent bloody cycle and much, much more often than any in the USA.
There's so many mass shootings in Mexico, Obama's Attorney General had to smuggle them guns just so the cartels could keep killing!
What is the purpose of killing?
Obama is preaching now.
God is your enemy. If he has to hurt you, he will.
Give it up. He is a God.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#793 Feb 8, 2013
Forum wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the purpose of killing?
Obama is preaching now.
God is your enemy. If he has to hurt you, he will.
Give it up. He is a God.
The only justification for killing is as a last resort to protect the life of the innocent.

As far as the rest of your inane drivel, you sure aren't building yourself up any support for gun ownership.
You ain't qualified,.....you're nuts!
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#794 Feb 8, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
No news network is ever unbiased. They are all funded either from government or by shareholders. That makes any news network as good as the next. Why would you trust any American network? Obviously they'll give a rosier than usual picture of the U.S.
Sure other countries have their violence, many of them are more violent than the U.S.. Mexico has their drug cartels, even my country got its horrible murder rate.
In terms of gang violence, opportunistic robbery, murder, the U.S. isn't so bad, comparatively speaking. But specifically the act of a single madman walking in with multiple guns and just shooting everyone, is an issue that plagues the U.S. the most.
Maybe it would help if more innocent people had guns. Then the madman would be shot during his rampage and the deaths overall would be less. WOuld've been nice if some of the teachers at Conneticut had guns to take down that madman before he shot 26 people.
But you know who will benefit the most if everyone gets a gun? The arms manufacturers. They'll take your money and buy a fake island in Dubai. Your country gets poorer.
Agreed. Finding a non-agenda driven news source is pretty difficult. You've got to listen to many then shake out the chaff.
But there's some better than others.

You're starting to see my point of view.
When an innocent gets shot to death, it doesn't matter the shooter's motivation, you're still deader than a doornail.

So the human solution to a human problem is make it easy, if not mandatory, for good folks to carry weapons, concealed or not. That in and of itself would be a deterrent for most weak-puke shooters looking for glory in a gun free zone.

If Sandy Hook Elementary had a weapons certified janitor, teacher or security guard carrying on campus that day, it would have reduced the carnage.
If everybody knew there was a qualified shooter or more protecting any campus, there would likely be no more mass shooting crimes on any school grounds.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#795 Feb 8, 2013
True Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
No news network is ever unbiased. They are all funded either from government or by shareholders. That makes any news network as good as the next. Why would you trust any American network? Obviously they'll give a rosier than usual picture of the U.S.
Sure other countries have their violence, many of them are more violent than the U.S.. Mexico has their drug cartels, even my country got its horrible murder rate.
In terms of gang violence, opportunistic robbery, murder, the U.S. isn't so bad, comparatively speaking. But specifically the act of a single madman walking in with multiple guns and just shooting everyone, is an issue that plagues the U.S. the most.
Maybe it would help if more innocent people had guns. Then the madman would be shot during his rampage and the deaths overall would be less. WOuld've been nice if some of the teachers at Conneticut had guns to take down that madman before he shot 26 people.
But you know who will benefit the most if everyone gets a gun? The arms manufacturers. They'll take your money and buy a fake island in Dubai. Your country gets poorer.
Everytime the anti-gun freaks start their nonsense gun owners get worried. They had had past successes by playing on the publics fears about shootings. Sooooo,a run on guns/ammo occurs and the laws of supply/demand kicks in. THATS why manufacturers are making big profits. BEFORE the school shooting there was plenty of ammo on dealers store shelves. Gun racks were well stocked. As soon as the gun grabbers began their mantra another panic ensued. While this is understandable,it happens,THIS time there is a difference. Gun owners are fighting back. Finally saying no more to the libs infantile demands and their usual tactics of playing on peoples' fears and emotions. We gun owners have tried it THEIR way for too long and seen these shootings STILL occur all the while seeing OUR rights diminish. No more. We have over 20,000 gun control laws on the books at all levels of government and we are still seeing tragedies happen. OBVIOUSLY their way isn't effective. Time to try something new.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#796 Feb 8, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. Finding a non-agenda driven news source is pretty difficult. You've got to listen to many then shake out the chaff.
But there's some better than others.
You're starting to see my point of view.
When an innocent gets shot to death, it doesn't matter the shooter's motivation, you're still deader than a doornail.
So the human solution to a human problem is make it easy, if not mandatory, for good folks to carry weapons, concealed or not. That in and of itself would be a deterrent for most weak-puke shooters looking for glory in a gun free zone.
If Sandy Hook Elementary had a weapons certified janitor, teacher or security guard carrying on campus that day, it would have reduced the carnage.
If everybody knew there was a qualified shooter or more protecting any campus, there would likely be no more mass shooting crimes on any school grounds.
And end the lunacy of these G-- D---ed "gun free" free fire zones......
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#797 Feb 8, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>And end the lunacy of these G-- D---ed "gun free" free fire zones......
No doubt.
What kind of lugubrious liberal lunatics decided that if we post "Gun Free Zone" it would make that zone a safer place?

That's like a bank posting "No Guards, No Guns, No Alarms and Tellers that don't Tell".
And thinking they won't be inviting a free-for-all on bank robbery.

Good guys with guns are what keeps bad guys with guns from doing bad things to good people.
Plain and simple fact of life.

You know?
There's a lot of talk nowadays about the debt burden of government pensions.
The average age of a retiree from the military, fire dept. or police force is early to mid-fifties.
At the top of form and experience.

Why don't we ask that they spend a couple of days a week as an undercover armed security working as a maintenance person or something on campus?
There's enough availables to cover the whole week and I bet most of these people already used to serving their country and community would enjoy it.
Something good to do with their time and a great benefit to our schools, kids and society.

Then we take down the "Gun Free Zone" signs and replace them with "You Are In Range" signs.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#798 Feb 8, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
No doubt.
What kind of lugubrious liberal lunatics decided that if we post "Gun Free Zone" it would make that zone a safer place?
That's like a bank posting "No Guards, No Guns, No Alarms and Tellers that don't Tell".
And thinking they won't be inviting a free-for-all on bank robbery.
Good guys with guns are what keeps bad guys with guns from doing bad things to good people.
Plain and simple fact of life.
You know?
There's a lot of talk nowadays about the debt burden of government pensions.
The average age of a retiree from the military, fire dept. or police force is early to mid-fifties.
At the top of form and experience.
Why don't we ask that they spend a couple of days a week as an undercover armed security working as a maintenance person or something on campus?
There's enough availables to cover the whole week and I bet most of these people already used to serving their country and community would enjoy it.
Something good to do with their time and a great benefit to our schools, kids and society.
Then we take down the "Gun Free Zone" signs and replace them with "You Are In Range" signs.
Sounds good to me. The one glitch might be in some of the military guys. 20-30 years in the service,depending on your MOS,really beats the body up. Shot knees,hearing loss,stuff like that. Many retirees qualify for some percentage of disability. Usually small to be sure but nonetheless. But still a good idea. One I'm sure being discussed somewhere.
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#799 Feb 8, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
The only justification for killing is as a last resort to protect the life of the innocent.
As far as the rest of your inane drivel, you sure aren't building yourself up any support for gun ownership.
You ain't qualified,.....you're nuts!
May your guardian angel protect you.

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