Gun Control
Tell Me

Winder, GA

#499 Jan 16, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
And you find that "unconstitutional" or "unamerican" - do you?
And what do you mean by "the current Administration"? Does that mean you don't believe previous administrations did the same? Didn't Bush ignore ALL LAWS - both national and international - when he illegally invaded Irak on pure lies of WMD's? I'd call that "choosing the laws it wishes to break" and effectively "choosing the laws it wishes to enforce" upon itself.
It is terrible that you would resort to outright and deliberate lies about what happened when it is a past part of recorded history. Liberals care nothing for the truth as you can see from the actual vote results of Congress below. You should be ashamed to sit in front of a keyboard.

United States House of Representatives
Party Yes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3

82 (40%) of 208 Democratic Representatives voted for the resolution.
6 (<3%) of 223 Republican Representatives voted against the resolution: Reps. Duncan (R-TN), Hostettler (R-IN), Houghton (R-NY), Leach (R-IA), Morella (R-MD), Paul (R-TX).
The only Independent Representative voted against the resolution: Rep. Sanders (I-VT)
Reps. Ortiz (D-TX), Roukema (R-NJ), and Stump (R-AZ) did not vote on the resolution.

United States Senate
Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0

21 of 50 Democratic senators voted against the resolution: Sens. Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR).
Tell Me

Winder, GA

#502 Jan 16, 2013
Misprint above.

There is no point in discussing legitimate possibilities to make our schools safer with liberals. All they are interested in is banning guns. Registration and insurance or anything to directly or indirectly ban guns. Liberals are the reason we have a lot of this problem although they probably blame Bush.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#503 Jan 16, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
There is no point in legitimate possibilities to make our schools safer with liberals.
Huh?

I think you meant to say, "There is no point in legitimate possibilities to make our schools safer with MORE GUNS".
Pat

East Granby, CT

#504 Jan 16, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>It is terrible that you would resort to outright and deliberate lies about what happened when it is a past part of recorded history. Liberals care nothing for the truth as you can see from the actual vote results of Congress below. You should be ashamed to sit in front of a keyboard.
United States House of Representatives
Party Yes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3
82 (40%) of 208 Democratic Representatives voted for the resolution.
6 (<3%) of 223 Republican Representatives voted against the resolution: Reps. Duncan (R-TN), Hostettler (R-IN), Houghton (R-NY), Leach (R-IA), Morella (R-MD), Paul (R-TX).
The only Independent Representative voted against the resolution: Rep. Sanders (I-VT)
Reps. Ortiz (D-TX), Roukema (R-NJ), and Stump (R-AZ) did not vote on the resolution.
United States Senate
Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0
21 of 50 Democratic senators voted against the resolution: Sens. Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR).
Lies fed to Congress by Bush for he duped Secretary of State Colin Powell with lies who then fed them to Congress.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#505 Jan 16, 2013
Lets face it , both parties have failed. But whats wourse is the people that keep voting them . Alot of people should not have the right to vote.
Force this is none of your bussiness.
Tell Me

Winder, GA

#506 Jan 16, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
I think you meant to say, "There is no point in legitimate possibilities to make our schools safer with MORE GUNS".
You can see in the following post I corrected my post when I left out the word "discussion" Well, maybe I should say most people will figure it out.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#507 Jan 16, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
Force this is none of your bussiness.
Really? Let me ask you a question. What do you think I'm feeling when I hear about yet another shoot'em up in the U.S? Do you think it makes me happy? Do you think it makes me smile to hear about another dozen or so American children getting splattered all over the walls?

There are many reasons why we don't do such things here in Sweden. High quality of education. Socialist-thinking care and medical services for our population. Good pay for everyone and a liberal unemployment system. We don't "hero worship" and we don't admire your right to shoot an intruder to death just for walking across your lawn. We don't call our boss "sir" or "Mister". We don't consider it a personal agression to our ego if someone steps on our foot and we are not fond of the American pre-occupaton with "telling someone off". AND WE DON'T HAVE GUNS.

Anyway, can you please be so kind and answer my above question to you?
Tell Me

Winder, GA

#508 Jan 16, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Lies fed to Congress by Bush for he duped Secretary of State Colin Powell with lies who then fed them to Congress.
Everyone was conned but Bush? He was supposed to be the dumb one. Because we never found WMD's does not mean they were not there. Hussein claimed he had them and there is no doubt he had them in the past when he used them on his own people. You people don't care about the truth .

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#509 Jan 16, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
Lets face it , both parties have failed. But whats wourse is the people that keep voting them .
Absolutely correct.
Alot of people should not have the right to vote.
Absolutely incorrect.
Tell Me

Winder, GA

#510 Jan 16, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
Lets face it , both parties have failed. But whats wourse is the people that keep voting them . Alot of people should not have the right to vote.
Force this is none of your bussiness.
I have to wonder if these are some of the voters in last election.
http://www.bet.com/news/music/2013/01/15/shaw...
Tell Me

Winder, GA

#511 Jan 16, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
Alot of people should not have the right to vote.
I posted the link for all the liberal racists. They cry and play the race card every time they can. An almost unanimous black vote for Obama reflects this racism among the blacks in this country. They don't like to hear that though, lol. Every Mormon polygamy story gets blasted by the press but this gets consideration for a reality show? My last post, have fun. I wanted to leave them something that would make steam come out of their plugged up liberal ears and exit before they can release their pent up hate back towards me.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#512 Jan 16, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>Because we never found WMD's does not mean they were not there.
What?! You can defend the illegal invasion of Irak on the "possibility" that WMD's "might" be there?! Try to remember that the NEXT TIME someone ELSE is aquitted of murder.

But I guess the fact that you have shown no sense or any intelligence "does not mean" you have no brain. You may have hidden it away in the closet with your 3rd. grad graduation certificate. The 3rd. grade certainly seems to be your highest mental achievement too, so I can guess that you put them both away at the time
Force Majeure

Sweden

#513 Jan 16, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>You can see in the following post I corrected my post when I left out the word "discussion" Well, maybe I should say most people will figure it out.
The word "discussion" is hardly the noteworthy point.... is it? Should you maybe read my response once again?
Force Majeure

Sweden

#514 Jan 16, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
Alot of people should not have the right to vote.
Your country is responsible for "educating" ALL of your people. In a proper Democracy it's "one man, one vote".

If you feel that "alot" of your countrymen are below-standard of vote-worthy timbre then it's your own fault for not demanding better educational standards.
Cisco Kid

Columbia, CA

#515 Jan 16, 2013
LetNatureHpn wrote:
<quoted text>Still the question stands unanswered. Why is it easier to buy a gun than to adopt a dog for protection?

If I choose to put my faith in a dog with a brain rather than a gun win none, that's my choice. The constitution says I have a right to keep and to bear arms, but it never specifies that it only applies to guns. If the US Armed services has determined that dogs and other animals can be regarded as non-lethal weapons, than why do we need to fill out applications with such personal information or any information at all as some gun advocates suggest? Answer the question.
I don't know where you live, but I live under the thumb of mother California.
Dog adoption is tightly controlled here too.

The reason for the unreasonable control is the Democrats that have been running this state for so long are control freaks that think big government should be involved in dictating every facit of your life, including whether you should be able to adopt a dog.

Want freedom and liberty?
Then vote out the Democrats running your state and country.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#516 Jan 16, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Let me ask you a question. What do you think I'm feeling when I hear about yet another shoot'em up in the U.S? Do you think it makes me happy? Do you think it makes me smile to hear about another dozen or so American children getting splattered all over the walls?
There are many reasons why we don't do such things here in Sweden. High quality of education. Socialist-thinking care and medical services for our population. Good pay for everyone and a liberal unemployment system. We don't "hero worship" and we don't admire your right to shoot an intruder to death just for walking across your lawn. We don't call our boss "sir" or "Mister". We don't consider it a personal agression to our ego if someone steps on our foot and we are not fond of the American pre-occupaton with "telling someone off". AND WE DON'T HAVE GUNS.
Anyway, can you please be so kind and answer my above question to you?
Stay in your perfect little world and STHU. Somebody needs to jap slap your sorry ass.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#517 Jan 16, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>I have to wonder if these are some of the voters in last election.
http://www.bet.com/news/music/2013/01/15/shaw...
Thats the whole problem.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#518 Jan 16, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely correct.
<quoted text>
Absolutely incorrect.
Two wolves and a sheep voteing on whats for supper.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#519 Jan 16, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>Stay in your perfect little world and STHU. Somebody needs to jap slap your sorry ass.
Whether or not somebody "needs" to do that is unimportant. What is absolutely sure is that somebody is definitely blasting your children to kingdom come. If you (personally) don't appreciate my advice on how to stop it, it's no skin off of my azz. You'll just have to bite the bullet and suck on my opinion anyway - because you can bet I'm still here saying what I want to say.
UDIOTRACEMAKEWOR LDPEACE

United States

#520 Jan 16, 2013
Pat wrote:
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Lies fed to Congress by Bush for he duped Secretary of State Colin Powell with lies who then fed them to Congress.
William Blum, Killing Hope, 2004, p389
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The leaders of the empire, the imperial mafia¬óGeorge W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, et al.¬ó and their scribes as well, are as fanatic and as fundamentalist as Osama bin Laden.

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