Anon

Lakewood, OH

#436 Jan 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not suggesting one could, not entirely. Perfection is the enemy of good. No law will ever perfectly prevent anything. But that doesn't mean one should not try and remedy an ongoing problem as much as one intelligently and reasonably can.
Agreed. My complaint is most of the solutions being bantered about are ineffective. Not once have I seen a simple gun lock, a device which fits over the trigger mechanism, ever mentioned. This effectively disarms any handgun or rifle. A secure gun safe is also an excellent deterrent. These simple measures might be enough of a hurdle in stopping a would-be assailant from carrying out his twisted plan.
Forum carlsbad nm

Hobbs, NM

#437 Jan 14, 2013
Obama does not understand who rules.
JUST ME

United States

#438 Jan 14, 2013
My wife is absolutely opposed to guns of any kind, and I respect her opinion, but it's important that she knows how to protect herself in case I'm gone. It's amazing what a .357Mag Gold Dot can do to an intruder.
Forum carlsbad nm

Hobbs, NM

#439 Jan 14, 2013
JUST ME wrote:
My wife is absolutely opposed to guns of any kind, and I respect her opinion, but it's important that she knows how to protect herself in case I'm gone. It's amazing what a .357Mag Gold Dot can do to an intruder.
Buy her a frying pan.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#441 Jan 14, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. My complaint is most of the solutions being bantered about are ineffective. Not once have I seen a simple gun lock, a device which fits over the trigger mechanism, ever mentioned. This effectively disarms any handgun or rifle. A secure gun safe is also an excellent deterrent. These simple measures might be enough of a hurdle in stopping a would-be assailant from carrying out his twisted plan.
Gun locks should not need be mentioned. Every NEW firearm comes with one,many cities GIVE them away and they are cheaply available at any gun shop.(They also double as a great bicycle lock......)
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#442 Jan 14, 2013
Forum carlsbad nm wrote:
<quoted text>
Buy her a frying pan.
That might work if the Three Stooges were breaking in...
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#443 Jan 14, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Gun locks should not need be mentioned. Every NEW firearm comes with one,many cities GIVE them away and they are cheaply available at any gun shop.(They also double as a great bicycle lock......)
I would wager to say most people on this thread have never heard of them.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#444 Jan 14, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
I would wager to say most people on this thread have never heard of them.
I would agree there has to be a percentage who do have them but choose not to use them. I don't have one on my nightstand pistol. It stays in the drawer,locked & loaded with the safety on. The first of every month I unload/clean it and change out the magazines to prevent spring wear in the mag. A good practice and keeps you familiar with your weapon.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#445 Jan 14, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>I would agree there has to be a percentage who do have them but choose not to use them. I don't have one on my nightstand pistol. It stays in the drawer,locked & loaded with the safety on. The first of every month I unload/clean it and change out the magazines to prevent spring wear in the mag. A good practice and keeps you familiar with your weapon.
You're one of the few people who knows how to handle a firearm. Unfortunately, most people I know who own them have no idea what they're doing, nor do they wish to. These are the same people who experience accidental discharges, misplace them, etc. To put it succinctly, they mess things up for the rest of us.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#446 Jan 14, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>
I say, but more important is who did not say. No one questioned their birth.
Wrong. Many have questioned Bush on the re-counting votes fiddle in Florida and on his country of birth - but he simply said, "You're either with me or you're with the terrorists" - so everybody shut up.
Team Player

Rochester, MN

#447 Jan 14, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
My spoons and forks made me fat, ban'em all.
Yes lets do wright along with rocks. hammers. screwdrivers, axes
Sal

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#448 Jan 14, 2013
okimar wrote:
I would agree there has to be a percentage who do have them but choose not to use them. I don't have one on my nightstand pistol. It stays in the drawer,locked & loaded with the safety on. The first of every month I unload/clean it and change out the magazines to prevent spring wear in the mag. A good practice and keeps you familiar with your weapon.

Mine just collect dust!
Force Majeure

Sweden

#449 Jan 14, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>And when did Obama prove his?
When he applied to run for president. It's a law you know, to be born in the U.S. if you want to become president.

No one in the government is questioning Obama's nationality - it's just simple-minded buffoons and racists who are running a smear-the-black-guy campaign.
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>All this was started by the Connecticut shooting. What of all you suggest what would have prevented that specific case from happening?
If he didn't have acess to guns would have prevented it.

Now I know that y'all say people can kill without guns but what would you suggest what would have been his method of murder without a gun? Strangulation? Stone throwing? A pointed stick? Poison? A fingernail clipper? Foul language?
Pat wrote:
So what will they do when the next lunatic drives a car onto a playground at a school or daycare and starts mowing down little kids, attempt to ban cars?
How about putting fences around playgrounds? Oh! You mean they already have fences around playgrounds? Now ain't that sumpin'! And what do you mean "the next time"? How many cases of cars driving into playgrounds do you have?
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Here in CT ..... when you buy a gun you go through a five day waiting period, an FBI check and a copy of your new purchase is forwarded to your local police department.
5 days? Whew! What an intensive check that must be! The CIA had years to decide Irak had WMD's b .... bu .... but ...... dey was wrong.
okimar wrote:
All these mass shootings have two things in common. They were all perpetrated by people with mental health problems and all(except the Giffords shooting)were committed at "gun free" zones.
You forgot the MOST IMPORTANT POINT ..... they all had guns. And sorry, you are blowing smoke up your backside when you say they were all mentally ill.
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>Hey lib. who do you call when you need help, a man with a gun.
I call a plumber when my drains are on the fritz. I call a doctor when I am ill. I call a policemen when I need civil assistance. Who do you call?..... the mentally deranged neighbour's son?
JUST ME wrote:
It's amazing what a .357Mag Gold Dot can do to an intruder.
It's even more amazing what a job with fair wages can do to someone's self esteem and to curltail his/her frustration against the goverment and community and thus reducing crime by billions.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#450 Jan 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
I would recommend not passing laws based on anecdotal occurrences. But that being said, there should not have been guns in the house of a child who was mentally ill.
I agree with you on the reconsideration of gun handling with a mentally unstable person in the house.
There are ways to manage that safety factor sensibly.

BUT! It is important to remember that when this sandy hook sleezeball stole the guns from his mother, he shot her to death.
Was she fighting him for the guns?

Nobody has brought this possibility up.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#451 Jan 14, 2013
JUST ME wrote:
My wife is absolutely opposed to guns of any kind, and I respect her opinion, but it's important that she knows how to protect herself in case I'm gone. It's amazing what a .357Mag Gold Dot can do to an intruder.
A .357Mag does terrible damage to the drywall, trim and even studs and outer siding.

A short barrel shotgun with 00Buckshot usually just damages the drywall and.....anything in the way.

ps: she doesn't have to be as good of an aim either.

Nothing else sounds like a twelve gauge racking in the dark.
Sometimes you don't even have to shoot.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#452 Jan 15, 2013
We should go back tothe first persuader
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/...
.
No fuss no muss no Low operating costs...no refilling magazines

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#453 Jan 15, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Possibility: Violent movies/TV/video games. Possibility: Illegal drug use or mis/perscribed Psychotropic drugs. Possibility: Single parent upbringing. Possibly a combination of any of the above. One thing is clear-it wasn't the weapon's fault.
Of course it's not the weapon's fault. That isn't the point. The point is, until all those other issues are better resolved, guns need to be better regulated, and illegal guns need to be removed from society.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#454 Jan 15, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>Hey lib. who do you call when you need help, a man with a gun. You bunch a dumasses make me sick.
Lib? LOL! Assume much?

The police are supposed to be armed; that's their job, dumbass. What is your point?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#455 Jan 15, 2013
Tell Me wrote:
<quoted text>There shouldn't be a lot of things but besides that none of your suggestions would have done anything to prevent this tragedy. That is why a liberal cannot effectively come up with a solution to anything. You must put your prejudices aside and look at a problem directly to solve it, something you are not willing to do.
Reading and comprehension aren't your thing, are they? I already said I wasn't addressing this isolated incident. I was addressing larger issues.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#456 Jan 15, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. My complaint is most of the solutions being bantered about are ineffective. Not once have I seen a simple gun lock, a device which fits over the trigger mechanism, ever mentioned. This effectively disarms any handgun or rifle. A secure gun safe is also an excellent deterrent. These simple measures might be enough of a hurdle in stopping a would-be assailant from carrying out his twisted plan.
Exactly. Some people seem to think that you are either trying to take away all guns, or want to hand them out to everyone. Alot of lame bi-polar partisan dipshits out there.

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