THE REASON WHITES SUPPORT OBAMA.

[mikehuntusa]

a lot of white people want to appease their white guilt. what better way to do that than vote for obama? who cares what his politics are, he's young and black....

i would vote for a black man, just not this one. not just any one. not just because he is black. he would have to be the best candidate, he would have to have a solid background that proves he represents my interests.

i'm not voting based on race.

[Moncie]

mikehuntusa wrote:

a lot of white people want to appease their white guilt. what better way to do that than vote for obama? who cares what his politics are, he's young and black....
i would vote for a black man, just not this one. not just any one. not just because he is black. he would have to be the best candidate, he would have to have a solid background that proves he represents my interests.
i'm not voting based on race.

And a lot of white people (like me) will vote for Obama because he is the best candidate. McCain will bring us the same crap that the current idi*t-in-chief has brought.

BTW, I don't vote based on race either.

[mikehuntusa]

Moncie wrote:

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And a lot of white people (like me) will vote for Obama because he is the best candidate. McCain will bring us the same crap that the current idi*t-in-chief has brought.
BTW, I don't vote based on race either.

one of many reasons obama is not the best candidate. you are not voting based on things like this because if you think this is best for america then you're nuts. but you probably don't even know anything about this type of thing.

to you he's young, he's black, he's charismatic, you can prove you're not a racist AND you don't hate muslims all at that same time... he is the liberals wet dream.

thanks for selling out my country so you can live out your little kuumbaya we are the world fantasy. luckily some of us actually pay attention to the politics.

[mikehuntusa]

Obama's bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for "food" to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.

The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation.

The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.'s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.

there's what i was referring to as one reason we shouldn't be voting for this moron.

meant to paste that in the last ranting. sorry.

[Moncie]

mikehuntusa wrote:

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one of many reasons obama is not the best candidate. you are not voting based on things like this because if you think this is best for america then you're nuts. but you probably don't even know anything about this type of thing.
to you he's young, he's black, he's charismatic, you can prove you're not a racist AND you don't hate muslims all at that same time... he is the liberals wet dream.
thanks for selling out my country so you can live out your little kuumbaya we are the world fantasy. luckily some of us actually pay attention to the politics.

How arrogant you are to assume that I don't pay attention to politics. You're wrong, BTW.

Your post doesn't say a damn thing. For instance, WTH does this sentence mean: "you are not voting based on things like this because if you think this is best for america then you're nuts." Huh??? Things like this? What things? I find it amusing that you'll slam me, but you can't even write a sentence.

As I said, I don't vote based on race. Why don't you tell me why I shouldn't vote for Obama. Please address, SPECIFICALLY, economics, health care, reproductive rights, the Iraq war, and anything else you'd care to talk about.

I'll be waiting. Oh, this is MY country too. Freedom. It's a beautiful thing isn't it?

[Markus Carkus]

Maybe if he's elected we can pressure Congress to enact a law sending Obama on a 4-year mission to Africa to help teach them how to grow food for themselves. He can even stop by on weekends to see Nana and Pap-Pap.

[Anndee]

How about the fact they we don't want to see another lieing Clinton in office?
Too simple?

[Anndee]

Moncie wrote:

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And a lot of white people (like me) will vote for Obama because he is the best candidate. McCain will bring us the same crap that the current idi*t-in-chief has brought.
BTW, I don't vote based on race either.

This is what the democrats said;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Anndee]

mikehuntusa wrote:

a lot of white people want to appease their white guilt. what better way to do that than vote for obama? who cares what his politics are, he's young and black....
i would vote for a black man, just not this one. not just any one. not just because he is black. he would have to be the best candidate, he would have to have a solid background that proves he represents my interests.
i'm not voting based on race.

Or maybe it's just democrats.
Political HIGHLIGHTS OF
Unfounded Loyalty
Findings Regarding Republicans & Democrats
From the Civil War To 1964
1. Both parties were inspired, by the Bible: one party believed the Bible supported their position that blacks should be free, the other believed the Bible said that blacks should be slaves (Based on the curse of Ham in Genesis 9:25-27. Note: The Muslims were the first religious group to enslave and trade Africans as slaves -*800 years before Columbus* allegedly discovered America.
2. One party and their abolitionist supporters believed the Bible instructed them to lay down their lives for the slaves, the other party and their supporters believed the Bible gave them the right to take the lives of blacks if they rebelled against being slaves.
3. On the issue of slavery, one party and its supporters gave their lives to expand it (to Northern states) and the other party and their supporters gave their lives to ban it.
4. One party was heavily influenced by the Abolitionists and the radical wing of their party (Radical Republicans) and the other party was influenced by the Ku Klux Klan and other terrorist groups.
5. One party and its supporters started the Freedman's Bureau and other programs to help build communities for blacks, the other party and their supporters engaged in practices to hinder those efforts and to destroy those communities (Wilmington, North Carolina).
6. One party and its supporters established quality schools and colleges for blacks, the other party and their supporters engaged in practices that attempted to close some of those schools or diminish their quality.

[Anndee]

7. One party passed laws and Constitutional Amendments (13th , 14th , 15th) to include blacks as part of mainstream society, the other party passed laws to exclude them from the mainstream (Jim Crow Laws and Black Codes). One set of laws that were designed to help blacks, the other set of laws designed to
hurt or hinder blacks.
8. The members of one party gave black voters protection, members of the other party murdered, tortured and intimidated black voters.
9. By 1900, as the lynchings of blacks increased (by the members of Democratic Party and their Klan supporters) the number of black politicians decreased. Up to this time (1900) all of the black elected officials in Congress were Republicans.
10. By 1933, black leaders believed Republicans took their vote for granted and elected Franklin D. Roosevelt. Not long after Roosevelt took office, he banned black newspapers from the military and refused to pass key legislation to help blacks (Civil Rights Commission and Anti-Klan laws).
11. By 1945 (under President Truman), the military was in the process of being integrated, the integration process was completed under President Dwight D. Eisenhower, a Republican President.
12. During the Eisenhower Administration other Civil Rights Laws were passed and school desegregation began (as a result of pressure from the African American community).
13. During the 1960's, the Black Church, which was the foundation of the black community, ultimately became the salvation of the Democratic Party (their only hope for the White House).
14. Under President Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed. Johnson commended Senator Everett Dirksen a Republican senator from Illinois for pushing the law through. More Republicans voted for this law than Democrats. Southern Democrats voted against the law.
15. Under Republican President, Richard Nixon the 1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act was passed and Affirmative Action was established with quotas, goals and timetables.
16. By the time Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 both parties were being influenced by individuals who claimed they were former racist and/or Klansmen (Senator Robert Byrd, Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, and Trent Lott to name a few).
17. By 2003, the Democratic Party had elected white women and white men
as U.S. Senators (for their party), but never a black man. The Republican had elected three.
18. By 2003, the Democratic Party had never offered an apology for the
horrific atrocities that they had committed against blacks over the past 150
plus years.
Summary: The past activities of both parties has a residual resounding affect on blacks today. From one group and their supporters, millions of blacks are still raduating from the schools and colleges that they established; they are still getting the benefits from the constitutional amendments and laws that they legislated; and they are still getting protection from the organizations that they founded and financed (theNAACP). From the racist efforts and practices of the other group and their supporters, blacks are still trying to heal from the wounds inflicted on them (during the past 150 years) and they are still trying to overcome the racist practices and laws that excluded them from the mainstream. Since 1863, the Republicans have sponsored, supported and passed more Civil Rights legislation favoring African Americans than the Democratic Party.
Conclusions: Today both the Republicans and the Democrats are overlooking their past. One party is overlooking the terrible acts they have committed against blacks. The other party is overlooking the terrific things they done for blacks. One party literally gave their lives to hurt blacks, the other party gave their lives to help blacks. One needs to remember its past to correct their errors, and the other needs to remember their past to continue the things they did for us.

[Moncie]

Anndee wrote:

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This is what the democrats said;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

And your point is...?

[mikehuntusa]

Moncie wrote:

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How arrogant you are to assume that I don't pay attention to politics. You're wrong, BTW.
Your post doesn't say a damn thing. For instance, WTH does this sentence mean: "you are not voting based on things like this because if you think this is best for america then you're nuts." Huh??? Things like this? What things? I find it amusing that you'll slam me, but you can't even write a sentence.
As I said, I don't vote based on race. Why don't you tell me why I shouldn't vote for Obama. Please address, SPECIFICALLY, economics, health care, reproductive rights, the Iraq war, and anything else you'd care to talk about.
I'll be waiting. Oh, this is MY country too. Freedom. It's a beautiful thing isn't it?

like i thought. you can't even pay attention. did you read what i just wrote about your messiah candidate and what he supports? you don't even know what he supports.

[Moncie]

mikehuntusa wrote:

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like i thought. you can't even pay attention. did you read what i just wrote about your messiah candidate and what he supports? you don't even know what he supports.

I know EXACTLY what he supports. Address what I asked you to.

[mikehuntusa]

Moncie wrote:

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How arrogant you are to assume that I don't pay attention to politics. You're wrong, BTW.
Your post doesn't say a damn thing. For instance, WTH does this sentence mean: "you are not voting based on things like this because if you think this is best for america then you're nuts." Huh??? Things like this? What things? I find it amusing that you'll slam me, but you can't even write a sentence.
As I said, I don't vote based on race. Why don't you tell me why I shouldn't vote for Obama. Please address, SPECIFICALLY, economics, health care, reproductive rights, the Iraq war, and anything else you'd care to talk about.
I'll be waiting. Oh, this is MY country too. Freedom. It's a beautiful thing isn't it?

if your dumb ass will look directly above this libtard spewing you will see the answer to your questions. apparently you have short attention span and only read the first thing i posted and not the info on obama's bill i posted directly under my first response to your ramblings.

as for your retarded challenge, your candidate does not represent my interests, like i said, i won't vote for him just because he is black. his stance on reproductive rights alone is enough for me to know he doesn't represent me.

if he represents you then good for you but you don't even know what he represents and you didn't even read the bill i posted about. if you agree with that sort of thing then like i said, you are nuts.

[Moncie]

Anndee wrote:

7. One party passed laws and Constitutional Amendments (13th , 14th , 15th) REMAINDER OF POST DELETED FOR STUPIDITY

Would you please provide a link to the source of your post? I'd love to see where it came from.

[Markus Carkus]

Moncie wrote:

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I know EXACTLY what he supports. Address what I asked you to.

I can answer that. His ingenious one-word answer to everything is "CHANGE". Maybe he shoulda followed his own reasoning long ago and CHANGEd preachers.

[andet1987]

this coming November, many whites will support McCain. aside from whites, McCain will be supported by some blacks, a lot of Hispanics, Asians, Jews, Evangelicals, etc etc

Bye bye Barrack Hussein Ossama.

[Fish]

mikehuntusa wrote:

a lot of white people want to appease their white guilt. what better way to do that than vote for obama? who cares what his politics are, he's young and black....
i would vote for a black man, just not this one. not just any one. not just because he is black. he would have to be the best candidate, he would have to have a solid background that proves he represents my interests.
i'm not voting based on race.

He's not black. He's bi-racial. His mother's white genes didn't magically disappear.

[Moncie]

mikehuntusa wrote:

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if your dumb ass will look directly above this libtard spewing you will see the answer to your questions. apparently you have short attention span and only read the first thing i posted and not the info on obama's bill i posted directly under my first response to your ramblings.
as for your retarded challenge, your candidate does not represent my interests, like i said, i won't vote for him just because he is black. his stance on reproductive rights alone is enough for me to know he doesn't represent me.
if he represents you then good for you but you don't even know what he represents and you didn't even read the bill i posted about. if you agree with that sort of thing then like i said, you are nuts.

Oh, I read the info you posted about the bill. That doesn't address everything I asked you to. Here's your problem. You hate democrats. You don't have the foggiest freakin' idea of what Obama is about. All you know is how to be a sheep and follow the herd and vote for the dumb a**es who've gotten us into the mess in the first place!

No candidate represents everyone's interest genius. That's why we vote. That's why we have a CHOICE! Get it?

BTW, I am not the one who is rambling. I've asked you to address specific points, but you apparently can't do it. Just admit it and move on.

[mikehuntusa]

The quotes below are from Obama's book, "Dreams of My Father":

Although Obama spent various portions of his youth living with his white maternal grandfather and Indonesian stepfather, he vowed that he would "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

This is from "Audacity of Hope":

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

From "Dreams":

"The emotion between the races could never be pure,”“Even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart."

"There was something about him that made me wary,” Obama wrote. "A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white"

apparently moncie thinks this type of thing is okay. i don't think it's okay from any candidate to say such things. i don't want a bigot for my president, sorry.