Why should you spank Children.

Why should you spank Children.

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Duh

Mokena, IL

#2 Aug 30, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
It is common sense to beat sense into your child:
-it teaches respect
-it teaches him/her to be well behaved
-it teaches them that a good spank is better than getting killed, raped, butchered or losing a limb by doing something stupid.
-Ergo:.....it is called Tough Love
No, it teaches them violence is ok. This is not 1808, it's 2008.

Since: Jul 08

Portland, OR

#4 Aug 30, 2008
Violence does not allow us to overcome all obstacles in life. What a bizarre statement to make. And as a matter of fact, you can negotiate with a child, if you know how. Every child is different, and every child reacts differently. You need to know enough about your own child to understand what will work best for him or her.

I don't spank my kids, and I never would. There are other means to correct a behavior or an action, you just have to find one that works for your situation.

Since: Jul 08

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#5 Aug 30, 2008
Sparingly. Psychologically, if you do it too much, the children will stop caring about it and just get spanked. Repetitive usage will wear down the purpose of discipline because the child gets used to it. There are other, more constructive ways, of dealing with misbehavior rather than saying "Imma gonna beat yo' ass!"

Since: Jul 08

Portland, OR

#7 Aug 30, 2008
chaoman45 wrote:
Sparingly. Psychologically, if you do it too much, the children will stop caring about it and just get spanked. Repetitive usage will wear down the purpose of discipline because the child gets used to it. There are other, more constructive ways, of dealing with misbehavior rather than saying "Imma gonna beat yo' ass!"
Well said! I couldn't agree with you more.

Since: Jul 08

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#8 Aug 31, 2008
Jumping Off Point wrote:
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Well said! I couldn't agree with you more.
Thanks.:P

Since: Jul 08

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#9 Aug 31, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
If spanking is used productively then it is a very reliable tool to enforce discipline on any child; however, I am not suggesting anyone beats the living daylights of their children. That is not what I am talking about; you are referring to torture and unnecessary violence on a child.
It is like match, for example. A match, a tool of sorts, can make a fire to warm you up so you will not die in the wilderness in a cold, cold night, thus preserving life. Now, a match that is misused and a person deliberatly initiates a forest fire and kills countless people and burns many homes to the ground, which is plain incompetance of the use of the valuable match.
That is what I am talking about: TOUGH LOVE; a productive method in maintaining discipline and respect from a child/dren.
Understand; liberal misled do-gooder.
Actually, I'm conservative, but thanks for playing. I never said you can't ever use it, I said SPARINGLY. That means you shouldn't use it every time your child does wrong.

"Le gasp! You ate a cookie before dinner!" *SPANK*

Studies have shown that spanking can actually lead to more violence. It was reported on both CNN and Fox News. Spanking children likely does not work because, speaking from a learning standpoint, four criteria would need to be met in order for it to be effective:

• It should be immediately after the infraction

• It should occur after every infraction

• The punishment of the first offense should be more severe than the punishment for later offenses

• There should be no warning of the impending punishment (like yelling or warnings of punishment if behavior does not change)

It is unlikely that parents meet these four criteria, and thus unlikely that spanking works as a physical punishment that changes behaviors in the desired direction.
Duh

Mokena, IL

#11 Aug 31, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
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No, that is stupid! Violence is an important Human factor of survival that we must always acknowlege and keep around. It allows us to overcome all obstacles in life. You cannot negotiate with a child; they will instinctively react upon this as frailty and anyone will be an easy target to manipulate and then destroy. YOU CANNOT DEPROGRAMM 4 MILLION YEARS OF HUMAN EVOLUTION YOU STUPID COW!!!!!!!!!!
GOD DAMN LIBERAL FOOLS!!!
Ha Ha! I'm far from being liberal. A good parent never needs to raise a hand to their child. If you are a good parent then your child/children respect you. I'm a parent so I should know.

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#12 Aug 31, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
"chaoman45 wrote:
Studies have shown that spanking can actually lead to more violence. It was reported on both CNN and Fox News. Spanking children likely does not work "
chaoman45 are you nuts; You are not a teacher. You don't know much about discipline. You may be a parent, but as a teacher you don't comprehend the meaning of discipline; NONE WHATSOEVER.
And getting your sole information from FOX and CNN isn't any good either; They are bias and never forthcoming on their broadcast of the news. It's all lies and half-truths with these clowns.
I tell you the truth from many years of observations and teaching. For example, Discipline is vanishing from public schools and are affecting the students in a very big way. They aren't learning anymore; they are being taught elementary content in the high schools; many are dropping out ill prepared for the world before them; and if, they do graduate their ability to cope with responsibility and pressure of life due to a lack of discipline produces prisom terms for many; single parent families; irresponsible parenting; and a whole vast of ills that our society is going through because of a lack of discipline in a young persons' life. Tough love should be working for the benefit for these young people but now what is happening is that we are actually going backwards and only producing fools rather than elite prepared young people to challenge and overcome any obstacles the world will ever place in front of them. The lack of a good spanking would have helped big time.
The American Prison Institution has close to 4 million convicts; 4 million lost souls! There are many sordid stories why many are there; however, you will always here many commenting,"... if only someone gave me some discipline in my youth to avoid this kind of life..." from a many prisoners from a many a prisons.
It's all these Liberal left wing nuts with their fantasy of maintaing diplomacy with young people to change their ways, but it is not working. You cannot alter 4 million years of hostility in one to two generations. You are going to have to work with harsh discpline such as a good spank'n to make the world right for a child.
I didn't say avoid it like the plague. Also, I'm not a parent. I'm 18.

And yes, I AM nuts but I still respect your opinion nonetheless.

Since: Jul 08

Portland, OR

#13 Sep 1, 2008
"The American Prison Institution has close to 4 million convicts; 4 million lost souls! There are many sordid stories why many are there; however, you will always here many commenting,"... if only someone gave me some discipline in my youth to avoid this kind of life..." from a many prisoners from a many a prisons. "

Most convicts are in prison because of choices they made. They can't try to pin the responsability on if someone should have spanked them or not. People need to take responsability for their own actions. I believe they are only lost souls if they have given up on trying to correct themselves, and educate themselves as to how they need to conduct themselves properly so that they can give themselves a 2nd chance at life.

I believe a lot of bad behavior from kids comes from lack of attention or involvement from parents. I've seen it in my neighborhood, and at my son's school. One of my neighbor kids gets spanked and I've seen her interrupt the teacher in class more than once. I've seen her do things she knows she's not supposed to be doing while watching out of the corner of her eye. She knows how to watch out for herself to get what she wants, and she's not even 10 yet. All because she's trying to work her way around getting a spanking. Spanking never corrected her behavior, it only taught her to watch her back closer, and to find other means of getting what she wanted.

I can understand why you would feel this way, having worked with kids that are not your own. I've seen how some of them behave, or rather misbehave in school. However, I still believe it is because of lack of parental involvement or lack of parents knowing how to parent.
Craig

UK

#14 Oct 1, 2008
I think it is right to spank my kids when they are misbehaving i have 2 boys and i see that spanking them when they are naughty works very well. the goverment don't know how hard it is bringing up your own kids they need to get into the real world. I do spank my children and always will spank them for doing the wrong thing.

Since: Dec 07

Ballston Spa, NY

#16 Oct 2, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
It is common sense to beat sense into your child:
-it teaches respect
-it teaches him/her to be well behaved
-it teaches them that a good spank is better than getting killed, raped, butchered or losing a limb by doing something stupid.
-Ergo:.....it is called Tough Love
You need to talk to Right Wing Sean. He agrees with you totally. You two could share notes.
He prefers using a belt on a bare arse preferably in a woodshed.

He also doesn't believe in anyone calling the police to report any abuse in the home unless bones are broken or the victim is so bruised that they are bloody and near death.

Right Wing Sean thinks that it is every parents right to beat the crap out of their kids and anyone who calls the police or attempts to stop the brutality, is a fascist or Nazi.

If you want to speak to Right Wing Sean, let me know.

Since: Dec 07

Ballston Spa, NY

#17 Oct 2, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
If spanking is used productively then it is a very reliable tool to enforce discipline on any child; however, I am not suggesting anyone beats the living daylights of their children. That is not what I am talking about; you are referring to torture and unnecessary violence on a child.
It is like match, for example. A match, a tool of sorts, can make a fire to warm you up so you will not die in the wilderness in a cold, cold night, thus preserving life. Now, a match that is misused and a person deliberatly initiates a forest fire and kills countless people and burns many homes to the ground, which is plain incompetance of the use of the valuable match.
That is what I am talking about: TOUGH LOVE; a productive method in maintaining discipline and respect from a child/dren.
Understand; liberal misled do-gooder.
Have you ever heard of positive discipline or talking to your kids?

Since: Dec 07

Ballston Spa, NY

#18 Oct 2, 2008
Irish Jack wrote:
If spanking is used productively then it is a very reliable tool to enforce discipline on any child; however, I am not suggesting anyone beats the living daylights of their children. That is not what I am talking about; you are referring to torture and unnecessary violence on a child.
It is like match, for example. A match, a tool of sorts, can make a fire to warm you up so you will not die in the wilderness in a cold, cold night, thus preserving life. Now, a match that is misused and a person deliberatly initiates a forest fire and kills countless people and burns many homes to the ground, which is plain incompetance of the use of the valuable match.
That is what I am talking about: TOUGH LOVE; a productive method in maintaining discipline and respect from a child/dren.
Understand; liberal misled do-gooder.
Do you hit your pets too to discipline them?
If you don't have pets, would you hit them if you had to discipline them?
Azakia

Christchurch, New Zealand

#19 Oct 2, 2008
Duh wrote:
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No, it teaches them violence is ok. This is not 1808, it's 2008.
You shouldn't beat them, but smacking them on the backside does far more good than harm. I had a lot of anger problems as a child and ended up with serious psychiatric help when I was only 11 for attacking my parents, I've now matured and seen how necessary physical discipline was. It teaches kids wrong and right far more effectively than any other method. As for saying its 2008, so what? It's also the month of October, time is completely irrelevant. It's not as if over time physical discipline has become less effective or unnecessary, the only thing that's changed since 1808 is brainless idiots like yourself have been born.
Azakia

Christchurch, New Zealand

#20 Oct 2, 2008
Lucy Ricardo wrote:
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Do you hit your pets too to discipline them?
If you don't have pets, would you hit them if you had to discipline them?
Are pets held under the same laws as human beings? Do pets have the same capacity to as humans to do harm in society?

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#21 Oct 10, 2008
I came back and read through SOME of this. Are people really saying that if you don't spank, your children will become lost souls? A bit of a stretch if you ask me...
Katrina

Baltimore, MD

#22 Oct 10, 2008
Duh wrote:
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No, it teaches them violence is ok. This is not 1808, it's 2008.
My A$$ got whipped with belts,fists ect.though I would never abuse my kids my parents put the fear of GOD in me and because of that I never smoked,drank did drugs or was promiscuous or disrespected adults.I see kids that hit kick and cuss there parents out and a swift smack in the mouth would be nessacary but they always say."STOP" a million times,don't get me wrong abuse is'nt great but if you want to see instant results its the way to go.
Ocean56

AOL

#23 Oct 10, 2008
Craig wrote:
I think it is right to spank my kids when they are misbehaving i have 2 boys and i see that spanking them when they are naughty works very well. the goverment don't know how hard it is bringing up your own kids they need to get into the real world. I do spank my children and always will spank them for doing the wrong thing.
Great, Craig; when your kid grows up and possibly gets CONVICTED for assault (hitting) another person, maybe you'll finally clue in to the fact that spanking your children was a LOUSY idea after all. His excuse for doing it at trial will probably be, "but my father always hit me, and he told me hitting is okay." Oh, and what is the "wrong thing" by the way? Anything your kids do that just ticks you off?@@
Ocean56

AOL

#24 Oct 10, 2008
Katrina wrote:
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My A$$ got whipped with belts,fists ect.though I would never abuse my kids my parents put the fear of GOD in me and because of that I never smoked,drank did drugs or was promiscuous or disrespected adults.I see kids that hit kick and cuss there parents out and a swift smack in the mouth would be nessacary but they always say."STOP" a million times,don't get me wrong abuse is'nt great but if you want to see instant results its the way to go.
Oh PLEASE, what utter garbage. I never did drugs or was promiscuous and I was NEVER hit by my parents. What a surprise, huh? Because they disciplined me and my siblings in a non-violent way and explained to me WHY something I did was wrong, I didn't repeat the transgression.

Parents who hit their kids as the only way to discipline them probably shouldn't have become parents in the first place. You really have to wonder how many of them end up in jail or prison for assault (hitting someone) got this lousy behavior from their "spanking is perfectly okay" parents. JMO
Ocean56

AOL

#25 Oct 10, 2008
Azakia wrote:
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You shouldn't beat them, but smacking them on the backside does far more good than harm. I had a lot of anger problems as a child and ended up with serious psychiatric help when I was only 11 for attacking my parents, I've now matured and seen how necessary physical discipline was. It teaches kids wrong and right far more effectively than any other method. As for saying its 2008, so what? It's also the month of October, time is completely irrelevant. It's not as if over time physical discipline has become less effective or unnecessary, the only thing that's changed since 1808 is brainless idiots like yourself have been born.
As far as I'm concerned, the above is nothing more than self-serving justification for smacking your kid(s) around when they do something that just pisses you off for some reason. And the next time you call someone a brainless idiot for saying there are better and NON-violent ways of disciplining your kids, try looking in a mirror.

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