Mormonism is a false Religion

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Your comment sounded like you were argueing that Mormonism is based on scripture, and that someone didn't make it up, if not then I appologize for misunderstanding your comment.
oh no, your good. i dont have a religion, im not anything, agnostic mostly i guess.
the only thing i argued was that it is a religion. i didnt say it was a smart one.:) specially with magic underwear. lol
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Well, i disagree. So then you could say that the Government is the President and that Congress is The President and that The House of Representatives is the President.
They're all the President in the Government.
Despite the misplaced adulations of some persons regarding our current administration, government is far from supernatural.
JBWL wrote:
I guess there was something to add to the bible since there was so much time in between testaments.
There wasn't that much time between the old covenant and the new. St.John the Baptist was the last prophet of the Old Testament.
JBWL wrote:
Do you think it's possible that there may be more?
There can be no dispute that there is more to God than what's contained in the Bible.
However, the Bible contains all that is necessary for one to seek salvation of one's soul.
JBWL wrote:
Or were they more holy back then and it's not genuine unless it's ancient. After 300 years, don't you think that some things can be embellished. and after being translated from such an indirect way of stating things that people can interpret the bible in a Myriad of different ways?
People that walked with our savior and were called friends of God could be termed more holy.
Certainly much of society's trends are less holy than back then.
Interestingly, the Qumram documents or Dead Sea Scrolls and the codex Sinaiticus have confirmed the accuracy of Biblical text. Even after millenia of copying and translation.
JBWL wrote:
Isn't this why there are Baptists and Methodists and Protestants? Each one interprets the book how they see fit.
That is the result of Sola Scriptura, and the rebellious nature of mankind in the protestant reformation. Scripture has always been meant to be accompanied by Tradition in teaching.
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In Short, you believe what you want and i will believe what i want. There is no reason to Ridicule another's religion just for being different.
I certainly didn't intend to ridicule your faith.
If there was something that came across that way from me, I apologize.
I am just glad that persons have faith in God.
The Spirit will guide them to truth if they will follow.
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I am not trying to be hatefull here. We have about five x-Mormons at our church and they all have grown up in that faith and say now that God led them out because they don't use the Bible and never did. They had no idea about what Christ did for them at the cross nor did they now how to gain salvation through him. Everything that I have posted on here came from the mouths of X-Mormons that were in that faith for over 30 years. My intention is not to ridicule your religion, but to offer the truth. That is my job as a Christian. I also apologize if anything I have said came across as offensive, this was not my meaning! I am glad that the Mormon church believes in God & Jesus but they need to know the truth about salvation, and I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't atleast try to tell people. Once I explain my side of what the majority of the churches believe is the path to salvation I then leave it up to you to make the decision. Its not my job to bash your religion, just plant a seed to make you question and firmly believe everything you have faith in. Don't take my word for it, search the scriptures.
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Sniper 1 wrote:
I am not trying to be hatefull here. We have about five x-Mormons at our church and they all have grown up in that faith and say now that God led them out because they don't use the Bible and never did. They had no idea about what Christ did for them at the cross nor did they now how to gain salvation through him. Everything that I have posted on here came from the mouths of X-Mormons that were in that faith for over 30 years. My intention is not to ridicule your religion, but to offer the truth. That is my job as a Christian. I also apologize if anything I have said came across as offensive, this was not my meaning! I am glad that the Mormon church believes in God & Jesus but they need to know the truth about salvation, and I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't atleast try to tell people. Once I explain my side of what the majority of the churches believe is the path to salvation I then leave it up to you to make the decision. Its not my job to bash your religion, just plant a seed to make you question and firmly believe everything you have faith in. Don't take my word for it, search the scriptures.
So, then, you single out Mormonism? Are you going to attack Muslims and Jehovah's witnesses next? I suggest that you preach your religion and let it stand or fall on it's own merits. There should be no reason that you would have to Specifically single out one religion as being wrong to prove yours is right. It's Cowardly and lacks ethics. What is your religion so that everyone here will know how narrow minded they need to be when they join it. perhaps they can learn to take up Mud slinging techniques in time, such as those that you are using here.
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and, A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth.
wikipedia.
it's a "real" religion alright.
The statement was "a false religion" no one said it wasn't a real religion.

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<quoted text>The statement was "a false religion" no one said it wasn't a real religion.
your right.

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<quoted text>The statement was "a false religion" no one said it wasn't a real religion.
yea, Be Prepared did in the first post. took me a minuted but i remembered.
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Here is some documented examinations of the (cult) like churches from a christians perspective to aid the believers in facing one of the greatest dangers in confronting the church today. I appologize if this is to lengthy.

How to define if the church you want to join is considered a cult.
The four basic operations of math, when applied in the following manner to any religious group, will aid Christians in detecting theological errors which characterize a cult.

*Does this church or group under consideration add to the word of God through indespensable publications that claim to give the Bible's clear meaning or throughpresent day direct revelation from God?
*Does the examined group subtract from the person of the Lord Jesus Christ by making him less "God" than his father or by elevating man one day to become like him?
*Does the sect under consideration multiply the requirements for salvation by making works a necessary condition for redemption?
*Does the religious group in question divide the loyalty of its members between God and itself and its leaders? Also does the sect make devotion to the organization a test of faith and consider adherence to itself the vehicle of salvation for the follower?

Mormons, in their publication The Pearl of Great Price, announce, "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly." The Mormons further regard their book of Mormon, Doctrine and covenants and the Pearl of Great Price as more reliable scriptures that the Bible.
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I guess You didn't read my last post. The only reason you must feel the need to point a finger at someone else is because you yourself are insecure and are looking for Justification. What other reason would there be? You could say that you're trying to direct people to your faith, but the most effective method of doing that would be to Advertise your beliefs, not Ridicule others.

What you're doing is like trying to sell a car by telling the prospective buyer Why they shouldn't buy their Competitor's car. No One wants to hear what they shouldn't do. Give up your Childish Finger Pointing. Besides, who made up those conditions that makes Mormonism a Cult? You? Your intention isn't to gain converts, it's to Gain Attention at the expense of the Mormons who have done NOTHING to you. If you think all Mormons are gonna Burn in hell, That's none of your business anyhow. In Fact, I believe that the only one that is supposed to pass judgment is god, right? You've already convicted Mormons in your Mind. That doesn't sound like a good Christian. Hell, that doesn't even sound like a Good American.
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My mother is a Mormon. They do believe that they will be Gods of their own planets. It's hard to get info on what mormons believe. They think Adam is God and that the Bible is only to be believed as long as it is translated correctly.
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newsies wrote:
My mother is a Mormon. They do believe that they will be Gods of their own planets. It's hard to get info on what mormons believe. They think Adam is God and that the Bible is only to be believed as long as it is translated correctly.
My in-laws are mormon. They wear magic underwear but they call it something different. They also do tell stories about about beople that don't get burnt from fire because of the underwear. They also believe when they die the husband is supposed to marry a bunch of women and eventually become a god himself.
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Yeah, and maybe Mormons wear Jogging suits and wait for a Spaceship that's hidden in the tail of a comet to come and take them away. You guys are horrible. It seems the story is getting better as it goes along............. *Sigh*

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My in-laws are mormon. They wear magic underwear but they call it something different. They also do tell stories about about beople that don't get burnt from fire because of the underwear. They also believe when they die the husband is supposed to marry a bunch of women and eventually become a god himself.
Tom-Doggie! You folks in Shertz should'nt talk! Ever dang one of you are wierd too! Buncha litter from a dang space ship is what ya'll are.
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JBWL wrote:
I grew up Mormon. SOME of the things that you said are KIND OF true, but most are completely False. There is no "Magic Underwear". That's just Ridiculous!!
Mormons use the Bible along with the Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of great Price.
It's true that Mormons believe in The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost as 3 separate beings.
God of your own planet? Have you been doing drugs? That is completely Fabricated.
I think that you just wanted to try and discredit Mormonism. I'm not an active member, but i certainly will come to the defense of my Religion. Most of the stuff that you said is just Hurtful and False. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such Slander. Christians shouldn't try to gain Converts to their religion by spreading lies and half truths about another. What about the commandant that says "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"? Isn't that what you've just done?
I don't know about a New Zion in Missouri, but why would all the Mormons tend to settle in Utah if Missouri was so important?
Every Mormon Prayer ends with "In Jesus Christ's Name we pray, Amen" That sounds like pretty high praise for Jesus Christ to me.
There is a Hell, but it's called "Outer Darkness". It's only for those that Reject God. The Punishment is In being totally alone. Complete emptiness.
I hate to tell you this but there are in fact "magic underwear". They're called garments and you start wearing them once you've gone through the temple. Joseph Smith instructed church members (those who practiced polygamy) to start wearing them as a means of distinguishing those who were polygamists. Based on your statements, you obviously never have been to the temple.
The reason garments are referred to as "magical" is because when Joseph and Hyrum Smith, John Taylor and Willard Richards were in the Carthage jail, Joseph instructed them to remove their garments which they did with the exception of Willard Richards. While Joseph and Hyrum were killed and John Taylor was injured Willard Richards survived without a scratch. That's why.
On a side note, you'll be surprised to know that the Egyptian papyrus that Joseph used to write the Book of Abraham in the Pearl of Great Price was not written by Abraham but is actually the Book of Breathings, a condensed version of the Book of the Dead.
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Be Prepared wrote:
There is no proof every written or found in the Western Hemisphere that says Mormonism is a real religion. We need to help those that are made to believe that the doctrines of this church are true. Briggam Younf & Joseph Smith were self made prophets who designed a religion for the soal purpose of controlling peoples minds. They stole scriptures out of the King james Bible and changed them around. They like to preach to us and say that there church is of Jesus and God but there are many things that they don't tell you until you are already in. I will leave it up to you to make your own minds up, but here are just a few things that they believe and that are written in the book of Mormon.
1.) God lives on a planet or next to a star called Kolaub, & we all previously existed there in spirit form until we were sent to Earth.
2.) There are three levels of heaven and how hard you work on earth for God is the outcome of which level you get to go to.
3.) There is no Hell!
4.)When you die you become the God of your own planet in the after life.
5.) When women Die there husbands must call them to heaven before they can come, and when they get there they have spirituall babies with God.
6.)They believe in magic underwear that will protect you if you wear them.
7.)Joseph Smith said a man is more likely to get to the highest level of Heaven if he has ten wives rather than one.
8.)Believe they can still Baptise someone when they are dead.
9.) Mountain Meadow Massacar, committed by Mormons.
10.) The Garden of Eden was in Missouri.
11.) That african american people were descendants of Cane and that God threw a fireball down on there planet to curse them with dark skin for eternity.
12.)That God was once a man of flesh & blood like us.
13.) That God had physicall sex with Mary.
14.)There is no holy Trinity, God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are seperate beings.
15.) That satan shaped large rocks that look like dinasaur bones to deceive people into thinking they didn't exist.
16.) That Christ will establish a new Zion in Missouri.
17.) There won't be any parent child relationship in the after life like there is on earth.
18.) Joseph Smith said once that he didn't want to start poligamy but an Angel came down with a sword and made him do it.
19.) Jesus was married to more than one wife and had children.
20.) Men & men only can perform miracles.
21.) Earth fell from its orbit from around Kolaub (The planet where God lives)
22.) Don't believe that salvation is through Jesus Christ.
23.) Most children who grow up in the Mormon church have never read the bible for fear it is bad.
You can look it up anywhere in the archives of religion history and there is no facts, books of mormon, pages, artifacts or anything to prove that it is a true religion. It is a mainstream church that draws you in with lies, and money. The people of this church have been suckered into a cult and must know the truth. Those who know the Bible can prove everything that is in the book of Mormon wrong. Be prepared when they come to your door, if you run and hide then that just makes them feel superior in there belief.
Mormons are evil hypocritical people.
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I guess You didn't read my last post. The only reason you must feel the need to point a finger at someone else is because you yourself are insecure and are looking for Justification. What other reason would there be? You could say that you're trying to direct people to your faith, but the most effective method of doing that would be to Advertise your beliefs, not Ridicule others.
What you're doing is like trying to sell a car by telling the prospective buyer Why they shouldn't buy their Competitor's car. No One wants to hear what they shouldn't do. Give up your Childish Finger Pointing. Besides, who made up those conditions that makes Mormonism a Cult? You? Your intention isn't to gain converts, it's to Gain Attention at the expense of the Mormons who have done NOTHING to you. If you think all Mormons are gonna Burn in hell, That's none of your business anyhow. In Fact, I believe that the only one that is supposed to pass judgment is god, right? You've already convicted Mormons in your Mind. That doesn't sound like a good Christian. Hell, that doesn't even sound like a Good American.
If you lived around Mormons you would say the same thing. They are hypocrites and the most insincere least religious fanatics around.

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ibelieve wrote:
<quoted text>If you lived around Mormons you would say the same thing. They are hypocrites and the most insincere least religious fanatics around.
How 'bout just letting go and letting God?...ya know?... versus "playing GOD" and making all these judgements that lack any semblence of tolerance or acceptance? What's all this business of "stirring everyone else's soup"? anyway.
Your obsession is a "fox eating your guts"!
I'm fairly certain that no mormons are losing sleep over your pipsqueak notions, Big Shot!

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You know it's one thing to claim that Mormonism is a false religion, and another thing to prove it. Well guess what, I can give you a LOGICAL proof that Mormonism is false. That's right, a LOGICAL proof.

And here it is

Mormonism teaches that God used to be a man on another world and that he became a god (this is called exaltation) and came to this world with his goddess wife. He was able to become a god because he followed the laws and ordinances of the god he served on another world. That god in turn was exalted by his god, who was exalted by his god, ad infinitum. In other words, there is a progression of gods being formed as far back as you look in time.

Truth does not contradict itself. If I gave two statements about a subject and the two statements contradicted each other, then you would know something was wrong. The law of non contradiction states that something cannot be both true and false in the same sense at the same time. In other words, truth does not contradict itself. This is basic logic. That which is true is internally consistent and contains no logical impossibilities. If something does contain a logical impossibility, then it cannot be true.

Mormonism teaches an infinite regression of causes. This means that it teaches that each god was made a god by a previous god. This means that as far back as you look in time, this process has always been occurring. This means that from an infinity of time in the past, the Mormon plan of exaltation (become gods) has been in effect. The only problem is that this is logically impossible. Since it is logically impossible, this means that Mormonism is false. Let's take a closer look.

There cannot be an infinite regression of causes. It is logically impossible. Why? Because you can not cross an infinity.

In other words, in order for us to get to the present state of this god on this planet, there would have had to be an infinite number of exaltations in the past. However, this cannot be because in order to get to the present, you would have to transverse an infinity of exaltations and that is impossible since you cannot transverse an infinity -- if you could cross (transverse) an infinity of time, then it isn't infinite. Therefore, the Mormon system of infinite regressions of exaltations to godhood is impossible and Mormonism is proven false. It's just that simple.

However, Mormons will not give in to a logical proof because their testimonies are not based on facts, but on what they claim is a testimony of the Holy Spirit. Of course, all cult groups have testimonies that their church is true (proving that testimonies are contradictory and untrustworthy as a means to determining truth). Nevertheless, they are taught to "feel" theological truth, not think it through. How then do they respond to this logical proof that Mormonism is false? Normally they say that it is a mystery. Mysteries are fine, but they cannot suffice as an explanation if they contradict logic. In other words, if a principle is blatantly illogically, it cannot be true. Did you get that? It CANNOT be true. Saying it is a mystery means nothing if the proclamation of that mystery violates the laws of logic. Mormonism is proven false.

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Okay, so if the Mormon principle of eternal regression of exaltations is logically impossible, then what is the truth?

The truth is that there is a single uncaused cause. Logic necessitates that there must be a single being who is without beginning and upon which time has no meaning or affect who is the single uncaused cause. The Bible says that God is unchanging (unlike the Mormon god) and that He has been God from eternity. This is exactly what logic necessitates as being true. The God of Christianity is not an exalted man from another planet with a goddess wife. The God of Christianity has always been God and has never been anything else.

Check out the following Bible verses

"For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed," (Mal. 3:6).

"Before the mountains were born or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God," (Psalm 90:2).

What is sad is that this simple logical proof, and it is proof that Mormonism is false, will mean basically nothing to those whose spiritual eyes have been blinded by the god (satan) of this world.

"And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God," (2 Cor. 4:3-4).

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A Brother in Christ: Okay, so if the Mormon principle of eternal regression of exaltations is logically impossible, then what is the truth?

The truth is you are not a judge and you are not to judge others personal spiritual beliefs and practices.
Acceptance and tolerance of our fellows, plus the principle of the freedom to pursue personal religion on which our free nation is founded, combine to classify you as a hopeless power boss and an irksome meddler.

Your screen name is misleading and dripping with false piety.

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