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There is no proof every written or found in the Western Hemisphere that says Mormonism is a real religion. We need to help those that are made to believe that the doctrines of this church are true. Briggam Younf & Joseph Smith were self made prophets who designed a religion for the soal purpose of controlling peoples minds. They stole scriptures out of the King james Bible and changed them around. They like to preach to us and say that there church is of Jesus and God but there are many things that they don't tell you until you are already in. I will leave it up to you to make your own minds up, but here are just a few things that they believe and that are written in the book of Mormon.

1.) God lives on a planet or next to a star called Kolaub, & we all previously existed there in spirit form until we were sent to Earth.
2.) There are three levels of heaven and how hard you work on earth for God is the outcome of which level you get to go to.
3.) There is no Hell!
4.)When you die you become the God of your own planet in the after life.
5.) When women Die there husbands must call them to heaven before they can come, and when they get there they have spirituall babies with God.
6.)They believe in magic underwear that will protect you if you wear them.
7.)Joseph Smith said a man is more likely to get to the highest level of Heaven if he has ten wives rather than one.
8.)Believe they can still Baptise someone when they are dead.
9.) Mountain Meadow Massacar, committed by Mormons.
10.) The Garden of Eden was in Missouri.
11.) That african american people were descendants of Cane and that God threw a fireball down on there planet to curse them with dark skin for eternity.
12.)That God was once a man of flesh & blood like us.
13.) That God had physicall sex with Mary.
14.)There is no holy Trinity, God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are seperate beings.
15.) That satan shaped large rocks that look like dinasaur bones to deceive people into thinking they didn't exist.
16.) That Christ will establish a new Zion in Missouri.
17.) There won't be any parent child relationship in the after life like there is on earth.
18.) Joseph Smith said once that he didn't want to start poligamy but an Angel came down with a sword and made him do it.
19.) Jesus was married to more than one wife and had children.
20.) Men & men only can perform miracles.
21.) Earth fell from its orbit from around Kolaub (The planet where God lives)
22.) Don't believe that salvation is through Jesus Christ.
23.) Most children who grow up in the Mormon church have never read the bible for fear it is bad.

You can look it up anywhere in the archives of religion history and there is no facts, books of mormon, pages, artifacts or anything to prove that it is a true religion. It is a mainstream church that draws you in with lies, and money. The people of this church have been suckered into a cult and must know the truth. Those who know the Bible can prove everything that is in the book of Mormon wrong. Be prepared when they come to your door, if you run and hide then that just makes them feel superior in there belief.
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Most all of them are very nice people and I have nothing against them other than there beliefs are void. Most of them have no idea about what salvation is or what it takes to acheive it.

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Mar 30, 2009
 
Be Prepared wrote:
There is no proof every written or found in the Western Hemisphere that says Mormonism is a real religion. We need to help those that are made to believe that the doctrines of this church are true. Briggam Younf & Joseph Smith were self made prophets who designed a religion for the soal purpose of controlling peoples minds. They stole scriptures out of the King james Bible and changed them around. They like to preach to us and say that there church is of Jesus and God but there are many things that they don't tell you until you are already in. I will leave it up to you to make your own minds up, but here are just a few things that they believe and that are written in the book of Mormon.
1.) God lives on a planet or next to a star called Kolaub, & we all previously existed there in spirit form until we were sent to Earth.
2.) There are three levels of heaven and how hard you work on earth for God is the outcome of which level you get to go to.
3.) There is no Hell!
4.)When you die you become the God of your own planet in the after life.
5.) When women Die there husbands must call them to heaven before they can come, and when they get there they have spirituall babies with God.
6.)They believe in magic underwear that will protect you if you wear them.
7.)Joseph Smith said a man is more likely to get to the highest level of Heaven if he has ten wives rather than one.
8.)Believe they can still Baptise someone when they are dead.
9.) Mountain Meadow Massacar, committed by Mormons.
10.) The Garden of Eden was in Missouri.
11.) That african american people were descendants of Cane and that God threw a fireball down on there planet to curse them with dark skin for eternity.
12.)That God was once a man of flesh & blood like us.
13.) That God had physicall sex with Mary.
14.)There is no holy Trinity, God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are seperate beings.
15.) That satan shaped large rocks that look like dinasaur bones to deceive people into thinking they didn't exist.
16.) That Christ will establish a new Zion in Missouri.
17.) There won't be any parent child relationship in the after life like there is on earth.
18.) Joseph Smith said once that he didn't want to start poligamy but an Angel came down with a sword and made him do it.
19.) Jesus was married to more than one wife and had children.
20.) Men & men only can perform miracles.
21.) Earth fell from its orbit from around Kolaub (The planet where God lives)
22.) Don't believe that salvation is through Jesus Christ.
23.) Most children who grow up in the Mormon church have never read the bible for fear it is bad.
You can look it up anywhere in the archives of religion history and there is no facts, books of mormon, pages, artifacts or anything to prove that it is a true religion. It is a mainstream church that draws you in with lies, and money. The people of this church have been suckered into a cult and must know the truth. Those who know the Bible can prove everything that is in the book of Mormon wrong. Be prepared when they come to your door, if you run and hide then that just makes them feel superior in there belief.
They believe in magic underwear that will protect you if you wear them.

what???????

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and, A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth.
wikipedia.
it's a "real" religion alright.
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and, A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth.
wikipedia.
it's a "real" religion alright.
Get a copy of the Atheists Bible then come back with your replies.
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You can look up the magic underwear thing!

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You can look up the magic underwear thing!
yea, you learn somethin new everyday. weird.

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Be Prepared wrote:
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Get a copy of the Atheists Bible then come back with your replies.
why?
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addyisme wrote:
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why?
I think I missread your comment.
What faith are you, if you don't mind me asking?
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why?
Your comment sounded like you were argueing that Mormonism is based on scripture, and that someone didn't make it up, if not then I appologize for misunderstanding your comment.
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yea, you learn somethin new everyday. weird.
You mean you don't have a pair of magic underwear?
Most Mormons will tell you stories about say that someone was hit by a car in there church and lived, They believe that, that person lived because they had there magic skivies on.
I am a Southern Baptist and it didn't take me but about 3 hours to disprove there faith through scripture and facts from history. Its really quite sad how many people believe this stuff, but I guess when you are brought in from an infant, its all you know. I boldly asked questions before I found my faith in Christ, and I looked at every view point there was.
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There all False religions.
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I grew up Mormon. SOME of the things that you said are KIND OF true, but most are completely False. There is no "Magic Underwear". That's just Ridiculous!!

Mormons use the Bible along with the Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of great Price.

It's true that Mormons believe in The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost as 3 separate beings.

God of your own planet? Have you been doing drugs? That is completely Fabricated.

I think that you just wanted to try and discredit Mormonism. I'm not an active member, but i certainly will come to the defense of my Religion. Most of the stuff that you said is just Hurtful and False. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such Slander. Christians shouldn't try to gain Converts to their religion by spreading lies and half truths about another. What about the commandant that says "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"? Isn't that what you've just done?

I don't know about a New Zion in Missouri, but why would all the Mormons tend to settle in Utah if Missouri was so important?

Every Mormon Prayer ends with "In Jesus Christ's Name we pray, Amen" That sounds like pretty high praise for Jesus Christ to me.

There is a Hell, but it's called "Outer Darkness". It's only for those that Reject God. The Punishment is In being totally alone. Complete emptiness.
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There all False religions.
Take your rederick & false propaganda elsewhere athiest. Why is it that you all try so hard to make people have doughts about there faith? If you lose faith, thats your decision. Not all christians are trying to pound there religion on you. All i hear from you'all is how nice athiests are and how caring and supportive but I have only met one single person on topix that I would describe like that. Aren't you'all getting tired of all the hate?
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JBWL wrote:
I grew up Mormon. SOME of the things that you said are KIND OF true, but most are completely False. There is no "Magic Underwear". That's just Ridiculous!!
Mormons use the Bible along with the Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of great Price.
It's true that Mormons believe in The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost as 3 separate beings.
God of your own planet? Have you been doing drugs? That is completely Fabricated.
I think that you just wanted to try and discredit Mormonism. I'm not an active member, but i certainly will come to the defense of my Religion. Most of the stuff that you said is just Hurtful and False. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such Slander. Christians shouldn't try to gain Converts to their religion by spreading lies and half truths about another. What about the commandant that says "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"? Isn't that what you've just done?
I don't know about a New Zion in Missouri, but why would all the Mormons tend to settle in Utah if Missouri was so important?
Every Mormon Prayer ends with "In Jesus Christ's Name we pray, Amen" That sounds like pretty high praise for Jesus Christ to me.
There is a Hell, but it's called "Outer Darkness". It's only for those that Reject God. The Punishment is In being totally alone. Complete emptiness.
I didn't make these things up, you can find this stuff anywhere. Show me the proof that your religion has been around since 3-400. Prove to me that Briggem Young and Joseph Smith were truley prophets. Where is it written outside of the book that they wrote. Where is the proof of the golden tablets? Mormons say there Christians just because they talk about Jesus. Talking about Jesus doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in the garage makes you a car! Even Biblical and Historical catalogs show that Mormonism is definatley man made. If you use the Bible then you know exactly where it says that God, Jesus, & the holy Spirit are one and the same! Those who go to hell won't be alone i assure you, and that makes me sad.

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JBWL wrote:
I grew up Mormon. SOME of the things that you said are KIND OF true, but most are completely False. There is no "Magic Underwear". That's just Ridiculous!!
Mormons use the Bible along with the Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of great Price.
It's true that Mormons believe in The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost as 3 separate beings.
God of your own planet? Have you been doing drugs? That is completely Fabricated.
I think that you just wanted to try and discredit Mormonism. I'm not an active member, but i certainly will come to the defense of my Religion. Most of the stuff that you said is just Hurtful and False. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such Slander. Christians shouldn't try to gain Converts to their religion by spreading lies and half truths about another. What about the commandant that says "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"? Isn't that what you've just done?
I don't know about a New Zion in Missouri, but why would all the Mormons tend to settle in Utah if Missouri was so important?
Every Mormon Prayer ends with "In Jesus Christ's Name we pray, Amen" That sounds like pretty high praise for Jesus Christ to me.
There is a Hell, but it's called "Outer Darkness". It's only for those that Reject God. The Punishment is In being totally alone. Complete emptiness.
Good for you. Folks on the inside usually know more than the ones outside looking in and pretending.
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Take your rederick & false propaganda elsewhere athiest. Why is it that you all try so hard to make people have doughts about there faith? If you lose faith, thats your decision. Not all christians are trying to pound there religion on you. All i hear from you'all is how nice athiests are and how caring and supportive but I have only met one single person on topix that I would describe like that. Aren't you'all getting tired of all the hate?
See JWBL's post. I wonder who the hateful one is Sniper 1.
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I didn't make these things up, you can find this stuff anywhere. Show me the proof that your religion has been around since 3-400. Prove to me that Briggem Young and Joseph Smith were truley prophets. Where is it written outside of the book that they wrote. Where is the proof of the golden tablets? Mormons say there Christians just because they talk about Jesus. Talking about Jesus doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in the garage makes you a car! Even Biblical and Historical catalogs show that Mormonism is definatley man made. If you use the Bible then you know exactly where it says that God, Jesus, & the holy Spirit are one and the same! Those who go to hell won't be alone i assure you, and that makes me sad.
Gosh you're hateful. Did you even pay attention to me when i said we use the bible? Talk about Jesus? Come on now......... Are you saying that Jesus ISN'T the Son of God? How can Jesus be the son of God and God at the same time. When Jesus said the prayer at the last supper, who was he praying to? Himself? So, how can God and Jesus be the same?

BTW, that's Brigham Young and Joseph Smith. If you want to debate physical evidence, where are the Ten Commandments? They were etched in stone at one time weren't they? I'm not saying that i don't believe in them, I do, But there's no evidence to support their exsistance except the Bible. Even the Bible was written 1000 Years AFTER the death of Christ. In addition, it wasn't all written by the same person. I'm not discounting it's validity, i'm just showing that The Book Of Mormon is no Less Credible if you put it in perspective. Since when is age a factor when determining crediblity? Do you tout that your Religion is Older so therefore it must be Genuine? What did they do when your religion was only 20 Years old and others still believed in multiple gods?
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JBWL wrote:
.. Are you saying that Jesus ISN'T the Son of God? How can Jesus be the son of God and God at the same time. When Jesus said the prayer at the last supper, who was he praying to? Himself? So, how can God and Jesus be the same?
Jesus was teaching the disciples HOW to pray at the Last Supper;

"This is how you are to pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as in heaven....."
Matt.6:9,10

Many times in the New Testament Jesus tells us He and the Father are the same.
If you have seen me you have seen the Father, etc.
Jesus is God the son.
Son of God by Holy Spirit, son of man by Mary.
One of three persons in God.

"Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM."
John 8:58
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Even the Bible was written 1000 Years AFTER the death of Christ. In addition, it wasn't all written by the same person. I'm not discounting it's validity, i'm just showing that The Book Of Mormon is no Less Credible if you put it in perspective.
Now in all fairness, it is common knowledge that the Bible was published around 300AD, NOT a Thousand years after Christ's crucifixion.

The Bible could not possibly have been written by one person, as the scribing took place over thousands of years.

Of course, parts of the Tanakh, or Old Testament preceded that by a couple thousand years.
Much of the New Testament writings like the pastorals and gospels were written within twenty years of 33AD.
There is reason to believe that unpublished gospel transcripts were extant in notes during Jesus' Earthly ministry.

While I have no animosity toward the LDS, if credibility and veracity rests on antiquity of writings, put things truthfully in perspective.
The Book of Mormon could have come out as a TV documentary if they waited just a couple more years.
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Well, i disagree. So then you could say that the Government is the President and that Congress is The President and that The House of Representatives is the President. They're all the President in the Government.

I guess there was something to add to the bible since there was so much time in between testaments. Do you think it's possible that there may be more? Or were they more holy back then and it's not genuine unless it's ancient. After 300 years, don't you think that some things can be embellished. and after being translated from such an indirect way of stating things that people can interpret the bible in a Myriad of different ways? Isn't this why there are Baptists and Methodists and Protestants? Each one interprets the book how they see fit. The Best way to get something across is to be direct. Saying "Son of God by Holy Spirit, Son of Man by Mary" is open to interpretation. Why use the word "Son" in the first place if he is God? You could say it is because he was born to Mary, but if he's God, doesn't that trump being anyone's son? and in being the son of Mary, doesn't that imply that Mary Herself is also a god for having given birth to him? So then it's the Holy Quad? But it's actually TWO people when four are spoken about. In the end, the only way for you to Truly know what you believe is to look inside yourself. In Short, you believe what you want and i will believe what i want. There is no reason to Ridicule another's religion just for being different.

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