Zhiguli

Belgrade, Serbia

#21 May 12, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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how did you know all these ? from the Bible ? and who wrote the Bible ? people just like you and me, all humans, all subject to mistakes.
That's right it's from The Bible. So according to you, Bible is some fake book just because it condemns homosexuality, crossdressing, transvestites, shemales and other abominations.

So enlighten me, what is just, what is truth to you? Who knows according to you maybe even ten Commandments and Lord's Prayer are fake, just written by the people. It's a mistake probably...

Since: Oct 09

Russells Point

#22 May 12, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Sex was created by God for married couples only.
Yeah, good luck trying to prove that.
Sex outside of marriage is SIN.
The concept of sin is a human invention.
Homosexuality is a level of sexual sin that God calls ABOMINATION. And if God calls it 'abomination',.....then it is of........THE DEVIL.
The Devil is no more real than Hades, Set, Loki or any of the other oppositions to goodness found in various pantheons. And besides, why should we care what one of the most wicked gods we have ever created, thinks? Seriously....

Since: Oct 09

Russells Point

#23 May 12, 2014
Zhiguli wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right it's from The Bible. So according to you, Bible is some fake book just because it condemns homosexuality, crossdressing, transvestites, shemales and other abominations.
So enlighten me, what is just, what is truth to you? Who knows according to you maybe even ten Commandments and Lord's Prayer are fake, just written by the people. It's a mistake probably...
Don't forget that there aren't just 10 Commandments. There are in total 613 Laws of Moses and many of them are totally ridiculous. And they most certainly appear to be creations of man. Many things found in the Bible seem to be retellings of earlier religious mythology, borrowed and edited to fit to Yahweh. You should research items like the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and the Ugaritic pantheon. Personally, I have never found Yahweh to be worthy of worship, even if he were real but I don't think for a second that whatever created this wondrous universe is the same being responsible for such a contradictive piece of literature as the Bible, which by todays standards, is full of bad advice. To be a Christian, you have to accept that people who do not accept Jesus as their lord and master, are deserving of eternal punishment. You also have to believe the silly Garden of Eden story (which is a clear example of bad parenting) is true or Jesus's supposed sacrifice becomes meaningless. You have to believe that we are all in need of salvation because the first woman was convinced by a talking snake, to eat fruit from a magic tree. And let's not forget that the folks Christianity "borrowed" their god from, don't believe Jesus was the son of God or that we are born in original sin or that there is a trinity, or the virgin birth, or that Jesus rose from the dead, or an eternal Hell, and various other things.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#24 May 12, 2014
Zhiguli wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right it's from The Bible. So according to you, Bible is some fake book just because it condemns homosexuality, crossdressing, transvestites, shemales and other abominations.
So enlighten me, what is just, what is truth to you? Who knows according to you maybe even ten Commandments and Lord's Prayer are fake, just written by the people. It's a mistake probably...
i love the movie The Ten Commandments. i love Charlton Heston. yes, that part which condemns gays is not OK. fyi, i saw many gays in the church praying, in partners. see ? despite the fact that gays are being condemned in the Bible, i still see many gays who go to church to pay respect to God. i do believe in God, and do believe in Miracles since i witnessed one Miracle myself. i am sure the Bible is not 100% correct. and i am sure God created gays and loves all gays.
Zhiguli

Belgrade, Serbia

#25 May 13, 2014
trailoftears wrote:
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Don't forget that there aren't just 10 Commandments. There are in total 613 Laws of Moses and many of them are totally ridiculous. And they most certainly appear to be creations of man. Many things found in the Bible seem to be retellings of earlier religious mythology, borrowed and edited to fit to Yahweh. You should research items like the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and the Ugaritic pantheon. Personally, I have never found Yahweh to be worthy of worship, even if he were real but I don't think for a second that whatever created this wondrous universe is the same being responsible for such a contradictive piece of literature as the Bible, which by todays standards, is full of bad advice. To be a Christian, you have to accept that people who do not accept Jesus as their lord and master, are deserving of eternal punishment. You also have to believe the silly Garden of Eden story (which is a clear example of bad parenting) is true or Jesus's supposed sacrifice becomes meaningless. You have to believe that we are all in need of salvation because the first woman was convinced by a talking snake, to eat fruit from a magic tree. And let's not forget that the folks Christianity "borrowed" their god from, don't believe Jesus was the son of God or that we are born in original sin or that there is a trinity, or the virgin birth, or that Jesus rose from the dead, or an eternal Hell, and various other things.
Those writing are just writings of pagans, heretics and satanists in order to trick the people and spoil the mankind, driving it away from God. Sorry, it's discredited.

God exists, who else created the Heavens and The Earth, the whole Universe. God shows in many other ways that He exists.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#26 May 13, 2014
Zhiguli wrote:
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Those writing are just writings of pagans, heretics and satanists in order to trick the people and spoil the mankind, driving it away from God. Sorry, it's discredited.
God exists, who else created the Heavens and The Earth, the whole Universe. God shows in many other ways that He exists.
I agree.

Since: Oct 09

Russells Point

#27 May 13, 2014
Zhiguli wrote:
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Those writing are just writings of pagans, heretics and satanists in order to trick the people and spoil the mankind, driving it away from God. Sorry, it's discredited.
God exists, who else created the Heavens and The Earth, the whole Universe. God shows in many other ways that He exists.


No worries. You didn't discredit anything. You only showed that you are fully indoctrinated and know very little about where many of your religious beliefs really come from. How convenient for Christianity to "borrow" from so many earlier beliefs and then to label those earlier belief systems to be evil or of the Devil.

Who created the Heavens and the Earth and the entire universe? Depends on who you ask. I'm sure people of other religions would claim their god did it all. I would never presume that it was a who, when it very well could be a what. I assume you mean the planets and stars when you say "heavens" considering we discovered that there was no Heaven up in the clouds, as was once believed. Your flood can be found in the Epic of Gilgamesh., many of your modern beliefs can be traced back to Egyptian practices. The Book of the dead contains most of your 10 Commandments. Yahweh himself can be traced back to the Ugaritic pantheon as one of the 70 sons of El (and Asherah) Most of your major holidays are simply borrowed pagan traditions (most definitely Christmas and Easter).

And that's before you even get into the immorality of Yahweh, who often takes his anger out on those not responsible for creating that anger in the first place (often times, it's innocent children who payed the price). Sorry but if we were to take your religion seriously for a moment, the Devil and everything he does would still be Yahweh's responsibility consider he created him with the knowledge of what he would become. In Judaism, Satan is not the Devil. That's a Christian invention. Originally Satan, was just an angel. When you do a comparative study of the characters found in the Bible, Yahweh comes out looking way worse than Satan does. Face it, Christianity borrowed the Jewish faith and then changed so many things about it that many of the major items are in complete opposition of one another and then we toss around words like Judeo-Christian beliefs as if they are the same, when they are practically opposites on everything that is important to the faiths.

It's just modern day snake oil salesman. They first have to convince you that you are sick. And then they have to convince you that they have the only cure. But upon closer examination, Christians seem no better off then people of other faiths or those of no faith at all. Few gods that we have created compare with the open immorality that Yahweh promotes.

Since: Oct 09

Russells Point

#28 May 13, 2014
If you read the Bible fully, it reads like a god who just keeps failing and then blames his failures on his own creations and even punishes them for it. If put into simple terms, if you make a pie and that pie taste like crap, do you then blame the pie for tasting bad or do you blame the cook who made the pie? Even humans already know that it is immoral to blame the son for the sins of the father, let alone every generation afterwards. This god is evil by todays standards. Few gods have taken credit for killing almost everything on the entire planet. To punish you eternally for trivial crimes is highly immoral. The really sickening part is how this faith likes to play on your guilt and fears in order to indoctrinate you or keep you indoctrinated. You aren't to question it. That's why the unforgivable sin has nothing to do with things like suicide or child murder but instead is denial, questioning or blasphemy of the holy spirit (a part invented by Christianity so that there could be a trinity found like in some of the earlier pantheons).

Since: Oct 09

Russells Point

#29 May 13, 2014
*like found (not found like)
dad of 3

Portland, OR

#30 May 13, 2014
Okay I'm taking bets, what are the odds that DR was molested as a child and he didn't like it! LOL Of all the evils in the world; greed, hatred, murder,, covetousness, lying and cheating and stealing... homosexuality is the only one he carries on about. Something set him off!
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#31 May 13, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because God was sick and tired of their homosexuality.
Maybe god just quit cigarettes and was in a really shitty mood...
Zhiguli

Belgrade, Serbia

#32 May 13, 2014
Like I said it wasn't just homosexuality that was the reason for destruction. Sodomites and Gomorrans weren't good people, they were killing each other and the murderers weren't even judged for their deeds, you could kill a man there and get away with it, it was like you squashed a cockroach, then there were robbers, thugs who bullied people. You could say it was a total anarchy, no law and order at all
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#33 May 13, 2014
Zhiguli wrote:
Like I said it wasn't just homosexuality that was the reason for destruction. Sodomites and Gomorrans weren't good people, they were killing each other and the murderers weren't even judged for their deeds, you could kill a man there and get away with it, it was like you squashed a cockroach, then there were robbers, thugs who bullied people. You could say it was a total anarchy, no law and order at all
There was no justice and immorality was rampant. Today is no different.

Matthew 24:38
"For just as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking,[men] marrying and [women] being given in marriage, until the [very] day when Noah went into the ark,"
Zhiguli

Belgrade, Serbia

#34 May 13, 2014
Yes, people eat, drink, do their business and only a lil number of people thinks about repenting

What Matthew wants to say is people in the End Times will not be on their guard, they will do their regular business and Jesus will come unexpectedly and suprise everyone. Will then be late to repent?
yon

Miami Beach, FL

#35 May 13, 2014
yon wrote:
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There was no justice and immorality was rampant. Today is no different.
Matthew 24:38
"For just as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking,[men] marrying
Did you notice - "men marrying'?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#36 May 13, 2014
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Sex was created by God for married couples only. Sex outside of marriage is SIN. Homosexuality is a level of sexual sin that God calls ABOMINATION. And if God calls it 'abomination',.....then it is of........THE DEVIL.
Sex was created for """married couples only"? Do tell. I guess King David didn't know that when he orchestrated Urriah's (sp) death so that he could have sex with Uriahs wife. Hmmm.

Then David had multiple wives and concubines as did his son Solomon who had 1000 wives and concubines. I often wondered why in one part of the Bible we are told that only one wife is allowed yet these "men of God" BACK THEN WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE AS MANY AS THAT WANTED.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#37 May 13, 2014
trailoftears wrote:
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I have never found the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to portray a very good man (Lot), considering he offered up his own daughters to the mob and later had sex with his own daughters to produce offspring. It never seemed like Lot was a very righteous person, worthy of saving in the first place. I'm sorry, but for in order for a man to get so drunk that he was incapacitated to the point of not knowing he was having sex with his own daughters, it's more likely that he wouldn't be able to perform either. That's assuming the story has any real basis in the first place. JMO
I'm not sure about how well Lot was able to perform but evidently he was able to sire Moab and Ammon by his two daughters. I'm just playing Devils here.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#38 May 13, 2014
Ooops. Meant to say I'm just playing Devils advocate here.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#39 May 13, 2014
Zhiguli wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right it's from The Bible. So according to you, Bible is some fake book just because it condemns homosexuality, crossdressing, transvestites, shemales and other abominations.
So enlighten me, what is just, what is truth to you? Who knows according to you maybe even ten Commandments and Lord's Prayer are fake, just written by the people. It's a mistake probably...
People really misunderstands so much of the Bible . For example, you stated the Bible condemns crossdressing and I guarantee you that you're most likely referring to the oft misunderstood scripture that says that a woman should wear nothing that pertains to a man etc. Yet when studied carefully and broken down,that verse is not talking about the wearing of clothing at all but instead it means that a woman should not take the place of a man sexually.....AND VICE VERSA.

Since: Oct 09

Russells Point

#40 May 13, 2014
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text> I'm not sure about how well Lot was able to perform but evidently he was able to sire Moab and Ammon by his two daughters. I'm just playing Devils here.
Lol, yep....or so the Bible claims. Although it is strange that they both became pregnant when in real life, it often takes several attempts to conceive. It's probably just a story though. My point was that if he was sober enough to perform, then he was sober enough to know he was sleeping with his daughters. A person who is passed out is usually pretty much worthless in the sack. I found it immoral for Lot to offer up his own daughters over the strangers, to the mob. Just my personal opinion though.

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