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Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#21 Sep 11, 2012
Timesten wrote:
No case file, Tommy. Twy again...

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#22 Sep 11, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
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No case file, Tommy. Twy again...
Yes it is a case file.
You are wanting the court files which I have no access to...sorry.
If you are trying to say the list is made up and is false then it's up to you to prove that. The ball is in your court.

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#23 Sep 11, 2012
Orthodox Jewish Abuse
The problem with sweeping things under the rug, for whatever reason and for whatever motivation, is that the shmutz remains. Our communal carpet has been soiled for too long. And there’s just no more room under it to hide any more of our secrets. It’s time to peek under the rug and clean up the mess.” Rabbi Mark Dratch
Orthodox Jewish abuse Issue of the molestation of innocent bodies and souls, the issue of the honor due to the tzelem Elokim (image of God) in which everyone is created and is violated when a person is abused, and the issue of correcting the misguided communal values and pressures which discourage and prevent victims from coming forward and getting the help they desperately need.
Sweeping under rug problem Rabbinical cover-up of the sexual abuse problem in the Orthodox community.
“Many believe that rabbis and rabbinic judges are advocates for those that were hurt and injured. Many, whose physical and emotional welfare were torn apart, want, at the very least, their faith to sustain them and remain strong. But many of those who speak out in crude and insolent ways have felt betrayed by those very rabbis and communal mores in which they desperately wanted to believe. Many felt revictimized by those they believed should have been there to help them. So they lash out with feelings of betrayal, disillusionment, abandonment and resentment. This is perhaps no excuse for crude behavior, but perhaps an explanation…and an indictment.” Rabbi Mark Dratch, The Jewish Week, 5 January 2007.
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...
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Orthodox Jewish Abuse Israel
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...
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Orthodox Jewish Abuse Australia
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...
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Orthodox Jewish Abuse Canada
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...
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Orthodox Jewish Abuse US
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...
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Brooklyn Orthodox Jewish Abuse
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...
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June 21, 2012
Ultra-Orthodox Men Charged With Trying to Silence Accuser
The Brooklyn district attorney, facing a wave of public criticism about his handling of sexual abuse allegations in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community, on Thursday charged four men with attempting to silence an accuser by offering her and her boyfriend a $500,000 bribe, and threatening her boyfriend’s business.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/nyregion/4-...
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Blogger Exposes Sexual Abuse in Orthodox Jewish Community
A sexual assault survivor is using her blog to expose sexual assaults in her community and elsewhere. She blogs by the pseudonym, Debbie Teller. The graphic and specific way that she exposes the horrors of being abused in a secretive and closed community on her website, has helped her secure a television interview on NY1; and the site welcomed as much as 13,000 unique readers in a day. Debbie now writes that it is read by 3,000 people a day.

Debbie was molested by her father at the age of five. The abuse continued until she was 10.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nealrodriguez/201...
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Orthodox Jewish counselor on trial in sex abuse case
NEW YORK (AP)– The abuse went on for nearly three years before the schoolgirl told anyone that her spiritual adviser was molesting her while he was supposed to be mentoring her about her religion, authorities said
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/201...

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#24 Sep 11, 2012
The Jewish community is a secretive society, so it only goes to show they want all of this silenced...

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#25 Sep 11, 2012
Timesten wrote:
A link to you cutting and pasting unsubstantiated and unsourced allegations that you found on a website which shares in your mental illness proves what exactly? 32000+ posts in just over two years, works out to more than 40 posts a day, every day, consider therapy.

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#26 Sep 11, 2012
Why Rabbis Sin...
&#8232;By Jeremy Rosen, Haaretz, 14 January 2010
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Jeremy Rosen Rabbi and writer who lives in New York
"&#8232;&#8232;On e could be forgiven for thinking that this past year was a very bad one for Orthodox Judaism. Across the Jewish world, one scandal followed another: corrupt and criminal activity among kosher slaughterers and kashrut supervisors, drug smuggling, theft and other illegal financial practices, racial discrimination, sexual abuse, some rabbis recorded demanding sex for conversions and others taking drugs and employing prostitutes. One after another, the headlines have reiterated a sad litany of corruption among Orthodox Jews, in many cases among their rabbinical leaders.
None of this is new; it has been going on for a very long time. But for someone as committed to Torah as I am, this phenomenon represents, far more than theological issues, the most serious of challenges to faith.
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I am tired of making excuses. Once I would argue that 2,000 years of oppression, hatred and exclusion had taught the Jews to do whatever they needed to survive. Or, I would note that much of Orthodox Jewry nowadays is barely a generation removed from life in an Eastern Europe where the state was an enemy and everyone had to break the rules in order to evade the discriminatory regimes. In Israel, one could put the blame on David Ben-Gurion, for not having separated religion and state, which in effect encouraged the Orthodox to indulge in all the temptations that accompany political power.
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But as with attempts to rationalize terrorism, you go through the obvious list of justifications - poverty, alienation, discrimination - and then you find perpetrators who have suffered none of the above. Daily, we Orthodox repeat mantras about justice, charity and kindness in our prayers, and the more we seem to spout them, the less many of us seem to pay any attention to translating the words into actions.
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Considering how religions seem incapable or unwilling to police themselves, what is the solution? Shedding constant and consistent light on the murky recesses of religious corruption, I would sugest. Most humans behave far better when they think they are being observed. If rabbis who are charlatans, predators, thieves and hypocrites know they are likely to be exposed, they might think twice about what they do. As it is, though, Orthodoxy tends to protect them, claiming wrongly that exposure breaches the laws of gossip and lashon hara. Religious leadership tends to close ranks, often blaming the victims or exonerating the perpetrators. Recent ads in the Orthodox press even claim that those convicted of fraud are like "captives" who must be freed.
All closed groups behave this way, not only Orthodox Jews. This is precisely why Israel's Supreme Court is so unpopular with the Haredi world - and so necessary, because it will recognize no such defenses. It is why a free press, and now the Internet too, is so important, and why public opinion must not let even outwardly pious criminals get away with their wrongdoings.
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This is why a code of human rights must coexist alongside Torah. It shouldn't need to, since Torah requires justice and righteousness. But when we see the outwardly observant betraying their core values while Orthodoxy stands idly by, we need the checks and balances that a universal system of legal ethics mandates."
Jeremy Rosen's combining a traditional Jewish outlook with a critical perspective on religious and political issues
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/C...

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#28 Sep 11, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>A link to you cutting and pasting unsubstantiated and unsourced allegations that you found on a website which shares in your mental illness proves what exactly? 32000+ posts in just over two years, works out to more than 40 posts a day, every day, consider therapy.
Prove them wrong is your task. Anyone can deny truths proving them wrong is another story....
Prove any of my posts to be a lie or a falsehood.
DO IT or STHU
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Aren't you the juboy who followed me around before denying everything I posted with a few of your buds?...
Which seat is yours?
http://iranianinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/0...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T1K...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TMI3AIV...
Aiesha S

Surry Hills, Australia

#30 Sep 11, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>A link to you cutting and pasting unsubstantiated and unsourced allegations that you found on a website which shares in your mental illness proves what exactly? 32000+ posts in just over two years, works out to more than 40 posts a day, every day, consider therapy.
Don't worry, Rick. In addition to being psychotic, Tommy Timesten is as full of it as a pit dunny in the bush. Lift the lid, then the putrid stench revolts all decent humans.

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Since: Nov 07

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#31 Sep 11, 2012
Aiesha S wrote:
Don't worry, Rick. In addition to being psychotic, Tommy Timesten is as full of it as a pit dunny in the bush. Lift the lid, then the putrid stench revolts all decent humans.
I've played with his tiny little mind before, but then it was with one of his seemingly endless supply of paranoid fantasies centering around 9/11. I had just planned on rattling his chain and leaving him alone to bark his madness to no one but himself, but for some strange reason, this thread has actually caught on. He's the raving lunatic screaming his fixations on a world conspiring against us at anybody who will bother to pay attention and like any other train wreck of humanity, their antics get our attention. It probably doesn't earn us too many God points, picking on the mentally ill such as lil Tommy, but darn it if he doesn't make it so much fun.

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#32 Sep 11, 2012
Timesten wrote:
Prove them wrong is your task.
Evidently you didn't notice, but the link you provided to prove the "truth", that there was/is some sort of long running "Jewish Rabbinical Conspiracy" to support and maintain a "tradition" of "pedophilia"; was nothing more than a list of people who were being identified as Rabbis and/or Jewish, who had at least been "accused" of criminal acts, which offered absolutely NOTHING that could be considered as being a source for these so called "facts". In doing that, they kind of lose the benefit of the doubt in regards to ANYTHING and everything they might be claiming. Congratulations, you've managed to find a web based "public encyclopedia" with lower editorial standards than Wikipedia. By the by, it's your paranoid fantasy at play here dear, it's your task to convince me that you're not in need of psychiatric intervention.

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#33 Sep 12, 2012
I don't think you few Ju's commenting here, know very much of your books, except for what your Rabbis tell you. and they surely don't tell you the whole truths of the story.

Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed,
“A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.”

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophilia...
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Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed,

“A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.” 1
Yebamoth 60b,
Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as “halakah,” or binding Jewish law. 2 Yebamoth 60b
Has Rabbi ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory.
References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin.

The Pharisees Endorsed Child Sex

The rabbis of the Talmud are notorious for their legal hairsplitting, and quibbling debates. But they share rare agreement about their right to molest three year old girls. In contrast to many hotly debated issues, hardly a hint of dissent rises against the prevailing opinion (expressed in many clear passages) that pedophilia is not only normal but scriptural as well! It’s as if the rabbis have found an exalted truth whose majesty silences debate.
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Because the Talmudic authorities who sanction pedophilia are so renowned, and because pedophilia as “halakah” is so explicitly emphasized, not even the translators of the Soncino edition of the Talmud (1936) dared insert a footnote suggesting the slightest criticism. They only comment:“Marriage, of course, was then at a far earlier age than now.”
https://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/...

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WHAT THE JEWISH SAGES SAY:
Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed,
“A proselyte who is&#65279; under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.”
Jewish Yebamoth 60b,
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"When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this (three years and a day) it is as if one put the finger into the eye." The footnote says that as “tears come to the eye again and again, so does virginity come&#65279; back to the little girl under three years.” Kethuboth 11b.
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References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin.
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The theological basis of oral suction in the Talmud, Shabbat 19:2 and Shabbat 133b, states that everything necessary for circumcision can be preformed on the Sabbath, including sucking out the blood. And if any mohel refuses to perform metzitzah, he would be seen as creating a danger to the child, and would be dismissed from his position.
http://thebrooklynink.com/2012/09/12/47917-co...

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#34 Sep 12, 2012
You can deny these truths all you want, but the facts remain and are recorded in your own books. You should spend more time researching them, rather than just denying them and listen less to the Rabbis instructing you....
https://www.google.com/search...
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#35 Sep 12, 2012
Not a "Ju", just a passing by poly-deist and assorted links to anonymous postings, with few or no clearly claimed sources, is not doing a whole lot to convince me that you aren't bat sh*t crazy. You're trying to convince us that there has existed since antiquity a "Jewish Rabbinical Conspiracy" to give God's wink and a nod to pedophilia. Being as unhinged and hostile as you come across about it ain't helping you in the slightest. We're sorry that you've seriously maleducated yourself on yet another range of topics, but that was your doing, not ours.

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#37 Sep 12, 2012
Not God's wink or approval It was the sick Head Rabbis of the past that made it a law for rabbis to follow, just like this modern day law of theirs....
"The theological basis of oral suction in the Talmud, Shabbat 19:2 and Shabbat 133b, states that everything necessary for circumcision can be preformed on the Sabbath, including sucking out the blood. And if any mohel refuses to perform metzitzah, he would be seen as creating a danger to the child, and would be dismissed from his position."
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Is it a conspiracy you ask?....I'd say so, according to the definition.
https://www.google.com/search...
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Definition: conspiracy.....
'In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future. Criminal law in some countries or for some conspiracies may require that at least one overt act must also have been undertaken in furtherance of that agreement, to constitute an offense. There is no limit on the number participating in the conspiracy and, in most countries, no requirement that any steps have been taken to put the plan into effect (compare attempts which require proximity to the full offence). For the purposes of concurrence, the actus reus is a continuing one and parties may join the plot later and incur joint liability and conspiracy can be charged where the co-conspirators have been acquitted or cannot be traced. Finally, repentance by one or more parties does not affect liability but may reduce their sentence.'
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Why are you trying to defend these monsters? If you had a child molested by them you'd be posting all over the board to hang them by their fingers tips.
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And prove any of the links I posted are false.
Would you like singular cases posted. That can be done...

September 12, 2012
Brooklyn DA's Manipulation Of Child Sex Abuse Victims And Advocates Further Exposed
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messi...
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September 05, 2012
Some Victims’ Advocates Balk On More Meetings With Brooklyn DA On Child Sex Abuse
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messi...
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Were There More Agudah Child Sex Abuse Victims?
Philip Fishman wrote a memoir about growing up in Williamsburg before the hasidic takeover of the Brooklyn neighborhood. In it Fishman talks about being sexually abused by a very well known "middle aged" "charismatic" leader of Agudath Israel of America he calls "Glatt." I've now been told that "Glatt" – whose real identity is very easy to determine – has many more victims.
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http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messi...
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November 02, 2011

Rabbi Mordechai Elon Indicted For Sex Assault
A criminal indictment was served today against Rabbi Mordechai (Moti) Elon, one of the most prominent rabbis in Israel's Orthodox Zionist movement, for two counts of indecent and sexual assault against two minor boys, one of whom was his student at the time of the alleged assault. Elon, who broke an agreement he made with an Orthodox Zionist ethics committee not to teach boys or work around or with boys, denies the allegations against him saying his actions have been "misunderstood.'
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messi...
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I can post many of the same individual cases, would you like to see them also?
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Why am I posting this thread? Because you Jews are suppose to be an enlightenment to the world, Gods examples, but with all you have been so blindly involved yourselves with, all over the world, you have pushed Gods Laws aside, that he gave you all to follow and to show the rest of the world the example.
http://www.truthaboutsundayworship.com/10%20C...

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#38 Sep 12, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Being as unhinged and hostile as you come across about it ain't helping you in the slightest. We're sorry that you've seriously maleducated yourself on yet another range of topics, but that was your doing, not ours.
What way should I come across as... "Hi everyone here is a colorful topic,'Many Jewish Rabbis who love children?'" Would that be more of a subtle entry to this book? I am not using profanities here, no racial slurs, no anti-semitic rhetoric, so why would you say "the way I am coming across"? Or are you just trying to play down and smoke screen the truths?

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#39 Sep 12, 2012
And for you people who would call me antisemitic for posting this thread, here are a few Jewish souls that I truly love and respect as honest people... http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TNS... ....as if they were my own family. Why?
Because they to have a need for the world to know the truth, such as I do....
despite the flack we receive from people, that the Leaders of Government and Religion, have corrupted the TRUE meaning of Judaism and what it takes to be true in faith to it.
Read the Commandments 6-10 again, from the link above, and see if you see people who say they are Jews for Judaism, who are honoring and obeying these 5C's.
And if they are breaking these 5C's, then for surely the other 5C's are broken as well.
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Since: Nov 07

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#40 Sep 12, 2012
Just blithering like the completely deranged idiot we all know you to be. The only thing you have EVER convinced anyone of is your desperate need of therapy.
Aiesha S

Surry Hills, Australia

#41 Sep 12, 2012
Timesten wrote:
I don't think you few Ju's commenting here, know very much of your books, except for what your Rabbis tell you.
I'm about as Jewish as a ham sandwich. Try again.

But decent folks know a racist when they hear one, and will NOT sit down and let it go unchallenged. Hope I would have done the same back in 30s Germany.
Aiesha S

Surry Hills, Australia

#42 Sep 12, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Just blithering like the completely deranged idiot we all know you to be. The only thing you have EVER convinced anyone of is your desperate need of therapy.
Very true, Rick. The next thing he'll drag up is the old medieval myth of the Blood Libel.

He's mad as a cut snake.

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#43 Sep 12, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Just blithering like the completely deranged idiot we all know you to be. The only thing you have EVER convinced anyone of is your desperate need of therapy.
Can you prove any of the intel I posted wrong or false?
I didn't think so mr off topic spammer.

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