Why Do You Like / Dislike President Obama?
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#1 Mar 31, 2010
This is a serious question. And why not be honest about how you answer it, right?
President Obama has not done anything to you on a personal basis. You havn't even met him, much less chatted with him, or sat next to him...yet I hear so much negative rhetoric as if he is responsible for all the ills America is going thru.
Shouldn't we blame old Georgie Bush, since he was the one that has exasperated the American psyche; lied to the American people; created a war that is still killing our boys and girls; sent our National Debt into oblivion, and made enemies around the world. And now old 'Dubya' sits on the 'catbird seat' with impunity. Let's look back and see WHO REALLY is to blame.
#2 Mar 31, 2010
Everything is always the last president's fault. That has not been any different in my lifetime which started with FDR.
New presidents go in with the expectation that they are going to save the world. To their followers they are and to the opponents they are making it worse.
#3 Mar 31, 2010
Well, you must be a very old man. Old people seem to have that 'mentality', and it sucks, because you old folks CONTAMINATE the minds of our good and young children, and they act in a very negative way towards people in power.
Hey, but thanks for allowing us to 'pinpoint' the problem. And thanks for being honest about your attitude towards a man who is trying his best.
I can only surmise that he is there in the Oval Office because G*d couldn't find anybody else to do the job, and America didn't have a candidate who came across as a real man like the President we have now.
The other fool who divorced his wife, and married another woman with MONEY, became an adulterer and enjoyed his life as a 'freeloader' and went so far as to get too comfortable at that too, and finally set his sites on the Oval Office, had NO SHAME. McCain was toast from the start, because the American public is not stupid or gullible, we know a liar, a cheat, and an adulterer simply because of his actions. And his actions have stunk to high hell for a long, long time.
#4 Mar 31, 2010
Are you OK? I make an observation that all of the presidents since I was born have been blamed by the next administration for all of the problems.
What "mentality" do you have a problem with? Life experience?
I will say one thing about my age, you seem to have a problem with. I know for a FACT that I will live to be this old. You can NOT say that as fact. You can hope you will live to be this old but you can't be 100% sure you will. I, on the other hand, am sure!
What attitude about this man who is trying his best? I didn't mention a thing about him good or bad. He really is no different than the rest of the men who was doing his best. Just a different name.
#5 Mar 31, 2010
You have a very far left , irresponsible mentality to blame someone else for the NEW problems that continually crop up during the new administration.
There are so many NEW problems, that if someone needs to point them out to you...then you have no right to be on Topix.
Instead of defending an irresponsible administration...get out on the internet, and read some news. Educate yourself.
Your quote sums up your ignorance:
"President Obama has not done anything to you on a personal basis. "
“Si vis pacem, para bellum”
Since: Dec 07
Former US of A
#6 Mar 31, 2010
I beg to differ. Much of what Obama has done, is doing and, will be doing, effects me on a very personal level.
Bush is just the excuse to implement the socialist deconstruction of America that Obama is carrying out. Bush made mistakes, as have many other Presidents before him. This is NOT an excuse to scrap our republic and replace it with a Union of soviet style states dependent on an ever powerful socialist government. Obama's Cloward-Piven Strategy has been exposed and more people are realizing the end game.
Obama has done nothing to us on a personal basis? I wonder what George Washington and Thomas Jefferson would be saying right now if they had the floor of the US Senate for 10 minutes.
Oh yeah.....it's personal.
#7 Mar 31, 2010
Ok, Don't shift your position so as to make it look like YOU made the observation. YOU responded to MY POST about MY OBSERVATION.
I stated what you read, and YOU responded. So what is YOUR BEEF?
If I rattled the cage,(yours)...then it's just CLEAR that you had every right and reason to respond. As far as being an 'older' man....well, I commend you for THAT, if that's whay you're fishing for. And if you are an experienced person, well THAT is something YOU would only know, not us.
The FACT, that we have a President that is 'black' or 'half black' is clearly a 'variable' that is being used to slam him. And even though you do say and state that it's (idealogically) to blame the 'active President in charge, and THAT has been the popular STANCE the American people have had with PAST Presidents, I can almost say you've been BORDERLINE against ANY President, but much more so with THIS President, since he is NOT what you wished (?).
At any rate, YOU are still allowed to express your thoughts, feelings.......and what ever 'makes your boat float'.
#8 Mar 31, 2010
I can only 'ponder' that YOU are afraid of change. And even though Obama's strategical speech during his candidacy for the Presidency, did have the word 'CHANGE'......and that is what has materialized in your world......and is still!
Don't bring George Washington or Thomas Jefferson into the thread, you're only 'fishing' for substantiation and popular rhetoric. Believe me......WE ARE NOT living in 1799. They were good men, and THEY TRIED THEIR BEST.
#9 Mar 31, 2010
“Si vis pacem, para bellum”
Since: Dec 07
Former US of A
#10 Mar 31, 2010
Interesting how you use the word "change" and much like Obama, there is very little clarification as to what this particular "change" suggests. Well, at least until it is too late to make an informed decision. So much for transparency! Let me suggest to you that, this too, will change soon.
I most certainly will bring the likes of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, as well as other founders of this nation, into the thread. The foundation of their struggle was built around the concept of freedom from oppressive government intervention and excessive taxation. The very same things that the socialist agenda of this administration intends to re-institute.
Whether it's 1799 or 2010, Those that still embrace their vision have every right to resist a "change" for what we consider to be the worse.
#11 Mar 31, 2010
I dislike Obama because he is at heart, at his core, neither a Democrat nor a Liberal. He is at his core a foot soldier for Socialism. He is a Socialist by ideology and conviction. What many do not realize is that he does not care if he loses his second term, he does not care if every Democrat in Congress loses his seat in November. So long as he can establish a foundation and precedent for an eventual complete Socialist system in the USA.
No other president since the wanabe Emperor Franklin Delano Roosevelt, has been as hell bent on establishing a Socialist dictatorship in the USA as Obama has. But with this very important caveat, back in the days of the Emperor FDR, Socialism and Communism were new phenomenon, they sounded good on paper and in rhetoric. It wasn't widely known or believed that Socialism and Communism led to poverty, stagnation, death, starvation, and terrorism of the citizenry by the state. It is now widely known and a documented fact that Socialism and Communism lead to all of these things.
If Obama embraces Socialism it can not be because of ignorance of the consequences. As a Harvard trained lawyer there is no conceivable way he can not know the truth and facts of the history of Socialism. He is dishonest and a bold faced liar if he denies the reality and consequences of pursuing Socialism. He and his gang can only be after power, naked and complete power over free and sovereign citizens.
I doubt that he thinks he'll be the one to reap the throne of full Socialist dictatorship, though maybe he does(wanabe dictators are a breed apart with boundless egos), but he'll be just as happy to have paved the road to Socialist dictatorship, believing that history will somehow vindicate him.
#12 Apr 1, 2010
Cafe de La Paix, you may be from Whacko, TX, but surely you aren't so stupid as to be unable to see the Socialism that Obama and Congress is trying to cram down our throats. It didn't work in Russia or any other part of Europe. It is a hughe failure in Cuba and N. Korea. China has modified their Socialism enough that they have incorperated Captialistic ideas into their system. Now Obama thinks he is the "Chosen One" and can make it work here in the US. Don't believe it for a minute. He and Congress is out to distroy our Constitution and our Captialistic government. People like you, that keeps their heads up their butts, can't see what he is doing. You are like the people on one thread that keeps saying that Obama should be worshiped. You and they are nuts.
#13 Apr 1, 2010
Obama has seen the oppression of blacks in the USA. Obama has lived with other black folks who have been treated miserably and regarded as second or third class citizens, simply because they are/were black.
So why should it surprise YOU or ANYONE of us that he wants 'change' in our social world, land so that black folks can get an education without being bombarded before they take their first steps?
White folks have been very mean and ugly and downright dirty with the black community, so CHANGE is the ONLY WAY OUT. This of course hurts anyone who is white, and actually has a very 'stinging' type of penetration against those that have played their life-roles as racists. Is this message getting thru to you?
And you damn well know why Mr. Obama wants change, so don't sit there and suck on your cigar and sip your coffee wonderng what you're gonna say. We know what you're gonna say because your expression of long ago are still the same, and you damn well know it, and so do we.
America CANNOT go into another type of government because we are a Christian Nation, and we hold and stand on the ground that G*d has given us. It won't be that easy to have a foreigner come and take our spoils. But we're being warned of what is coming, and this can clearly be seen by most Americans, especially those of age that have lived longer and experience more.
Of course CHANGE hurts. But it hurts because we can't see into the future. But one thing is for sure, and that is the 'seeds of hate' have been planted and if the roots give off the weeds we call Socialism, and Communism take hold....then you can only blame yourself and your Republican credential material which you've used to 'line your checkbook' and fattened yourselves, exclude the people of color, mix your 'christian theology' with your political-oriented church, and contiue to believe that all is well and that you can do no harm. Thas G*d is not watching because this is a white man's land and nobody should have the audacity to come in and take control.
YES, CHANGE -- Your 'enemy word'.
#14 Apr 1, 2010
The point of my post was not that the current president is the problem. In the cases I was referring to the fact that the LAST president always "caused the problems". All of Obama's problems are Bush's fault, all of BushGW's problems were Clintons fault, all of Clinton's problems were BushGHW's fault and all the way back.
“Si vis pacem, para bellum”
Since: Dec 07
Former US of A
#15 Apr 1, 2010
I knew it.....I JUST KNEW IT! You crutch toting racists are getting so predictable that I can see you coming a mile away. You just couldn't help yourself could you! Why waste time defending his policies when you can just drop that race bomb and slither off.
Against my better judgment, I've decided to waste one more moment of my time on you.
First. His political agenda was the topic of discussion here. YOU and only YOU brought race into this. You asked the questions and you didn't like the answers so here comes the race bait to drag us all into your mud.
Second, to set the record straight, Obama is half white. This is, of course, irrelevant to his policies but you seem to be all about race now.
Third, loose the whole "whitey keeping the black man down" act because it's old and tired. Explain to me how affirmative action gets certain ethnicity's in to colleges that other students with higher grade point averages cannot get in to. Explain to me how there are successful black scientists, politicians, athletes, and businessmen and women including billionaires. Whats that about the "white man's land" again?
Finally, You're damn right change hurts, especially when it's a change for the worse and intentionally so in my view. I could care less if a little green man from mars brings it to my doorstep. I will criticize it with the same intensity. With you however, it's all about whitey.
#16 Apr 2, 2010
And yes, WHY should I give you 'my time' right? Oh well, because I can, and SHOULD. My good and wonderful MAN. You care, and WE ALL care. We want the best for THIS COUNTRY.
Affirmative Action means that: Something went very wrong, with how we treat people, and it's come 'full circle' to know and acknowledge, that if WE DON'T/or DIDN'T do something to give the 'other' race(s)(blacks and other ethnic groups) to exercise their LIFE, IDEAS, BELIEFES, EDUCATION, and ultimately their FUTURE.........AMERICA would just go down, and quickly.
That is why the 'courts' found themselves in a dutiful and obligatory sphere of doing the best for America. It could have been worse if they had not done their job as 'appointed leaders'.
What do you want........A utopia that continues to give ONLY to a group of people, and at the same time LEAVE THE REST without the BASIC RIGHTS to Vote, Speak, and Work?
Get OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE Buddy, will you! And let 'The Best' that America has in governmental positions DO THIER BEST!
Now is that fair enough? I hope so. This good LAND called America is NOT about how much money you have; how much power and prestige you can obtain; how much fame and Hollywood status you can gain.......It's about HOW TO LIVE OUR LIVES TO THE FULLEST AND BE AT OUR BEST NOT ONLY FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR OTHERS WHO NEED US JUST AS MUCH AS WE NEED THEM.
And if you want to bring in the Bible to defend your stance and expressions, well then do it.
God IS NOT a respecter of PERSONS, and YOU are no exception to His rules, got it mister?
Let's move FORWARD, not back to the 1950's OKAY? And let the pieces fall as they may (or should).
#17 Apr 2, 2010
Cafe de la Paix ----- You said "Shouldn't we blame old Georgie Bush".---- Now, Bush Jr. did make some errors. And these were Bush Jr.'s errors.---- 1. He didn't handle Afghanistan &/or Iraq properly ((We didn't win in Afghanistan &/or in Iraq (At least not yet)). 2. He overspent. 3. He didn't secure America's southern border (He didn't do anything about illegal aliens). 4. He didn't pardon border agents Ramos & Compean (At least not until the very end of his administration).
Now, who caused Americas economic troubles?---- Answer.---- The democratic party. And this is why.---- The democrats "pushed" for "everyone to own a home". And the democrats did this for votes, so that they could / would get reelected to office. And just some of the top / major democrats who did this were Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd & the Congressional black caucus.
And the middle class "footed the bill for" (Paid for) the underclasses homes.
And the buyers "bit off more than what they could chew".
So, Obama was part of the clique which brought about the Subprime Crisis.
And the Republicans WANTED to as well as TRIED to regulate Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac back as early as 2005. However though, the Republicans were blocked by the democrats. And just some of the top / major democrats who blocked the Republicans were ---- Maxine Waters (Democrat -- California), Gregory Meeks (Democrat --- New York), Barney Frank (Democrat ---- Massachusetts) & Christopher Dodd (Democrat ---- Connecticutt).
In addition, many regulations were also removed under the previous presidential administrations of democrats Jimmy Carter & Bill Clinton. Especially under Bill Clinton via Clinton & "other" democrats (Democrats in the House & Senate back then) "revising" the Community Reinvestment Act.
#18 Apr 2, 2010
Cafe de La Paix ----- You said "created a war that is still killing our boys and girls".---- Now, it is true that VERY brave American men & women of our armed forces are being killed & wounded in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan. But, Afghanistan, as well as Iraq have been & currently are VERY just, noble & righteous causes. And this is why.----
Bush Jr. HAD to order the invasions & liberations of Afghanistan AS WELL AS Iraq.
Now, in regards to Afghanistan ---- America was attacked on 9/11 by Osama Bin Laden & his Islamic fundamentalist Al Qaeda organization. And Afghanistan was under the control of the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban regime. And the Taliban were providing Bin Laden & his Al Qaeda organization with "safe haven", weapons & training. Subsequently, Bush Jr. HAD to order the invasion & liberation of Afghanistan.
In regards to Iraq ----- Iraq was under the control of Saddam Hussein & his leftwing Baathist regime. And Hussein COULDN'T be trusted. Hussein was VERY anti-American, VERY anti-Israel & VERY anti-British. Furthermore, Hussein had ties / connections to international Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organizations. In addition, Hussein had "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" (WMDs). And these were the WMDs ---- Anthrax, Ricin, Botulinum Toxin, Saxitoxin, Staphylococcal Enterotoxin B, T-2 Mycotoxin, Tetrodotoxin & Chemical Weapons ----- Mustard Gas, Lewisite, Phosgene, Tabun, Sarin, Soman & VX.
And this was pointed out by Colin Powell at the United Nations.
In addition, EVEN Americas ex. president, democrat Bill Clinton even acknowledged this stuff.
Now, right prior to American & Allied Forces invading Iraq, Hussein moved his WMD "stashes" to neighboring Syria (Especially to Syria) & to Iran. And this took place back in early March, 2003.
And ALL of this stuff has been VERY well documented by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Israeli Mossad Organization & the British MI6 Organization.
#20 Apr 2, 2010
Cafe de La Paix ---- Now, let's look at what democrat Obama as well as what the democrats in the House & Senate have done from February, 2009 till now.---- These are the policies which have led to this VERY widescale disillusionment.----- Democrat Obama & the democrats in the House & Senate have undertaken ---- OUT OF CONTROL spending, taking over the auto industry, trying to take over the Health Care System, running up our nations debt & running up our nations budget deficit.
For instance ---- 1. Over 1.4 trillion dollars in budget deficit.
2. Over 787 billion dollars of wasted "stimulus" money.
3. BILLIONS of taxpayer sponsored bailout money for Wall Street firms, for auto firms & for Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac.
4. Running up our nations national debt 3 x MORE than EVERY administration up to this point COMBINED.
5. With the Health Care Plan which just passed, BILLIONS MORE will be spent on government sponsored Health Care.
6. And HIGHER taxes are on the way for working Americans "across the board".
#21 Apr 2, 2010
Cafe de La Paix ----- Here are some other examples why most of the American populace views democrat Obama as well as the democrats in the House & Senate negatively.-----
1. Democrat Obama hired tax cheats to run the Treasury as well as other cabinet level positions.
2. Democrat Obama flip flopped on CIA interrogation investigations.
3. Democrat Obama appointed self admitted leftwing communists to adviser (Czar) positions.
4. Democrat Obama promoted the gov't takeover of select private companies while letting other companies fail.
5. Democrat Obama waffled on our nations war efforts in Afghanistan as well as in Iraq.
6. Democrat Obama sounds even worse than George Bush Jr. without a teleprompter.
7. Democrat Obama has displayed COMPLETE & TOTAL indecision/indecisions in regards to Americas foreign policy. Especially in regards to Afghanistan, Iraq (He was initially against the "troop surge". And this surge has been VERY successful), Iran, North Korea, Venezuela & Honduras. Obama didn't even support Honduras's new president right after Honduras's former leftwing president was removed (And rightly so).
8. Democrat Obama as well as the democrats in the House & Senate have increased unemployment.
Just look at the democrats spending ----- Lower tax base from such high unemployment + increased gov't spending on entitlement programs (On stimulus, on health care, on private sector bailouts)+ pet project spending (The pork barrell spending)+ increased taxes on small businesses + increased taxes on large corporations + increased taxes on high income earners = x. And the x is NOT on the positive side.
The country started the downward spiral after the democrats took over the Congress back in November, 2006. It has just got put on the express train after the election back in November, 2008.
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