Blaming Israel for carnage

Blaming Israel for carnage

There are 121927 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Jul 22, 2006, titled Blaming Israel for carnage. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

Most media outlets aren't providing news of Israel's barbaric air raids on Lebanon with fairness and integrity.

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USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#134170 Jun 15, 2014
Gray wrote:
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The following is an honest evaluation of the actual numbers Re: "Raining Hamas Rockets" from an Israeli Intelligence service ........not IDF's inflated figures that include an ax killing as from a Hamas rocket.
“Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks”
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-...
source Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC).
EXCERPTS “To begin, Israeli spokespeople frequently remind the world that a million Israeli citizens are within range of Gaza rockets, twelve thousand of which have been fired into Israel in the last twelve years, inflicting thousands of injuries and several dead.
However, we are rarely told exactly how many people have been killed by these rocket attacks.” CONTINUED
Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.
Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.
Operation Cast Lead (December 27, 2008–January 18, 2009) and Operation Pillar of Cloud:
more than one out of every four deaths occurred during these two operations, which were ostensibly designed to deter rocket attacks.
For the entire duration of the 2008 Hamas–Israel cease-fire—even after Israel had broken the cease-fire on Nov. 4—not a single person was killed by rocket or mortar fire into Israel.
“And for an entire year before Operation Pillar of Cloud, not a single Israeli was killed by rocket or mortar
This disputes the clichéd notion that rocket attacks are “designed to maximize civilian casualties.” Indeed, with such a low fatality rate and with the characteristic imprecision of the weapons, they cannot be expected to inflict a fatality most of the time.
every year listed, the IDF’s rocket fatalities number is higher than what has been established.
Jewish Israeli taxi driver was strangled to death by three Palestinians as revenge for the IDF killing of a relative. Outside of that, a 16-year old boy in the Bat Ayin settlement was killed by a lone Palestinian with an axe,
We can add to the embarrassment by referring to a page about “The Hamas Terror War Against Israel” on the website of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which reproduces both the IDF bar chart and rocket numbers as reported by ITIC—contradictory information, presented together in a single page by the Israeli government, in order to explain “The Hamas Terror War Against Israel.”CONTINUED
I've never maintained that either side is blameless of killing, I only note that no one has endured a brutal & illegal Occupation without Resistance.
Israel has the option to cease expanding its Occupation. Doing so would open the possibility of Peace. Until then, the native Palestinians will do as all Occupied people have done over the centuries; Resist with whatever they have (i.e. The French etc Resistance groups were reviled as "terrorists" too)
If Israel would withdraw to the legal '67 Borders, the Arabs would definitely make peace. They do not want to "drive the Jews into the sea",( that phrase is of Israeli origin.
Israel doesn't want to make peace & has clearly proven so by expanding settlements during "Peace Talks" & does so with reward in US Aid
I don't expect to change any minds here but just to present little known realities
Counting rockets and the dead does not justify Hamas firing rockets into Israel at will. Hamas fires those rockets purposely from civilian populated areas.

There is no guarentee there would be peace if Israel returned to the "67 borders. Gaza is a good example of that.


USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#134171 Jun 15, 2014
PeteSake wrote:
Scurrying and currying LOL
"Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending) from a heathen, is a divine service ..."
Martin Luther 'The Jews and Their Lies.' 1543
Now you're saying Jews adhere t the talmud? For an all knowing minion you're pretty stupid.
USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#134172 Jun 15, 2014
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Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#134175 Jun 15, 2014
HasBhaRAT Trolls Fixers wrote:
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jackass Jim demonstrates again as to who suffers from persistent halitosis, paranoia and deep seated psychological hang ups.
Talking of employment, do you have any, Jimbo?
Fck off, you little jerk off troll. Get a life.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#134177 Jun 15, 2014
I hope there is a full-blown Shia-Sunni war and that they televise it in America, so we can all laugh.
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134178 Jun 15, 2014
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>“Brevity is the soule of wit”
Is that so.
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134179 Jun 15, 2014
Faith wrote:
“For F**k's Sake”.
Really?
Mandela

Perth, Australia

#134182 Jun 16, 2014
An NFL Fan wrote:
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Spelling ....??
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Well it obviously matters not to a scum like me..........
When even a lumpkin like yo can get the message clear enuff ..........
An thats all that matters......is it not ??
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But jus imagine how much more information a citizen wit intelligence
wud glean from it ....
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here endeth yo lesson DUH!
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You make no sense. Could you repeat that in the King's English, ignorant fool?

Mandela says....
>>>>> OMG..........Who be in dire need o a brain transplant ......?? <<<<
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Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134183 Jun 16, 2014
Mandela wrote:
An NFL Fan wrote:
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Spelling ....??
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Well it obviously matters not to a scum like me..........
When even a lumpkin like yo can get the message clear enuff ..........
An thats all that matters......is it not ??
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But jus imagine how much more information a citizen wit intelligence
wud glean from it ....
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here endeth yo lesson DUH!
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You make no sense. Could you repeat that in the King's English, ignorant fool?
Mandela says....
>>>>> OMG..........Who be in dire need o a brain transplant ......?? <<<<
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Notice how Government Troll Creep has disappeared probably writing a report on you to the Superiors in Washington telling that you are trying to subvert the The Agent-Trolls form of narrow Democracy.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#134184 Jun 16, 2014
Dang It wrote:
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Notice how Government Troll Creep has disappeared probably writing a report on you to the Superiors in Washington telling that you are trying to subvert the The Agent-Trolls form of narrow Democracy.
you got you name from a dung ?:)

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#134197 Jun 16, 2014
PeteSick 666 wrote:
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And we thought this Jew's obsession with little boys was curtailed? Never trust a racist Jew eh?
I noticed you posted your hatred till very late this past weekend, Lucifer. Was something (aside from employment) keeping you awake?
ocxz

Reunion

#134198 Jun 16, 2014
-Eight Ball- wrote:
<quoted text>It's more likely ocxz will die in Shiite/Sunni sectarian violence, than go to jail, dull commie stooge. <¦-o
it's more like you'll catch yourself a fecal germ from licking latrines clean, dirty sewer rodent.
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ocxz

Reunion

#134201 Jun 16, 2014
-Eight Ball- wrote:
<quoted text>Just because the Qur'an called young boys 'Allah's little pearls', doesn't mean what you and Ratslayer did at your mosque, was legal. <¦-o
Just because you were given a job as a toilet cleaner, dose not mean that it is legal to harrass male customers...
Satan

Reunion

#134202 Jun 16, 2014
-Eight Ball- wrote:
<quoted text>The indictment is on its way, Satan. Soon you'll be bunking with Ratslayer in the pen. You two shouldn't have messed with all those little boys, Moslem cretin. <¦-o
I'm waiting for you.
i'm going to drill many holes in you with my fire hose, racist shitstain.
you'll love it
Gray

Mechanicsville, VA

#134205 Jun 16, 2014
EXCELLENT SOURCE
Mandela wrote:
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The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
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http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin...
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By Jews for Justice in the Middle East
Published in Berkeley, CA, 2001
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Jews for Justice has made this excellent resource available to people around the world. just Download it!-
As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict.
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The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the Palestinians are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to.
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Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice.
EDITED FOR SPACE

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The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land & started building up the Jewish community there.
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They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism.
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The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves &, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.
The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true, as the documentary evidence will show.
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What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible.
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Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was by law held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).
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The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine.
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Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D.(Over 1200 years)
In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.
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Thanks "Mandela" for citing one of the most readable and forthright evaluations of the Region's most heavily distorted, oldest and critical conflicts.

"If Americans Knew" presents a balanced evaluation of what most Americans don't know due to the pro Israel bias of NY Times, Washington Post, Fox "News" etc who parrot:

"The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land & started building up the Jewish community there." etc

Sadly, those that should read this won't out of 50+ years of zionist Media brainwashing and regarding the fictional movie: "Exodus" as fact
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134206 Jun 16, 2014
Dang It wrote:
It appears the Islamic State of Iraq is bringing M1 Abrams tanks captured from Iraq into Syria.
-Eight Ball- wrote:
<quoted text>So you're saying Iraq captured the tanks from Iraq? Iraq didn't have any Abrams tanks to begin with. You don't make any sense, ignorant Nork minion. <¦-o
If you say so, Troll-Traitor.
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134207 Jun 16, 2014
“Brevity is the soule of wit”

ocxz wrote:

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it's more like you'll catch yourself a fecal germ from licking latrines clean, dirty sewer rodent.
-Eight Ball- wrote:
<quoted text>You've quite the fixation on toilets. They are after all, few and far between in Moslem countries. Have you ever had the chance to use one, Islamic donkey? <¦-o
You have the night off without pay? Topix will Fire this government troll soon for lacking in brevity.
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134208 Jun 16, 2014
“We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary [of State James] Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960’s that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America.”

Who said this?
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134209 Jun 16, 2014
-Eight Ball- wrote:
<quoted text>You've quite the fixation on toilets. They are after all, few and far between in Moslem countries. Have you ever had the chance to use one, Islamic donkey? <¦-o
You better jump on the Seattle bus there and go get some sleep.
Dang It

Thief River Falls, MN

#134210 Jun 16, 2014
“On July 31st, two days before the Iraqi invasion [of Kuwait], John Kelly, Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern affairs, testified to Congress that the ‘United States has no commitment to defend Kuwait and the U.S. has no intention of defending Kuwait if it is attacked by Iraq’.”

This was to confirm to our Friend for Life Saddam Hussein that we were happy together.

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