Blaming Israel for carnage

Blaming Israel for carnage

There are 121874 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Jul 22, 2006, titled Blaming Israel for carnage. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

Most media outlets aren't providing news of Israel's barbaric air raids on Lebanon with fairness and integrity.

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#117255 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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You haven't reduced anybody to anything. You think you are so superior, even over your like minded minions. In reality, you're just a pompus, puffed up windbag.
Sure I have and I have also shown how you don't know the meaning of soul. Of course you would agree with another dummy

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#117256 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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So I made a spelling error. It would only be a big deal to a self righteous minion like you.
BTW, I made a few errors yesterday, but you weren't smart enough to catch them. It is certain you would have squealed if you had.

I don't have the time to correct all of your posts, but thanks for admitting your mistakes. I usually just skim them as they are usually lacking in content and anything of substance.LOL

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#117257 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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First we don't have souls, then we have souls but they die, now we are souls?
Ramble on, maybe you weren't meant to get it.
You know exactly what I have stated. I stated to Danetoo that we don't have souls in the way she and a lot of Christianity perceive soul. I stated we are a soul not that we have a soul. I also provided examples to show what the bible teaches. But thick as a brick you are still unable to understand. The reason being that you don't have a sound grasp on the bible. I guess that means that you deny what both the Greek and Hebrew state in relation to what the word soul and spirit means and that you know better than the biblical writers. Ramble on yourself because you have still been unable to disprove what I have stated. You will never get it because you are brainwashed by the Catholic Church as is George. That is where the pagan belief re "souls" originated and nowhere is it stated in any bible that there is an immortal soul. The examples that you yourself gave confirm my claim

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#117258 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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An obvious cut and paste job. No link is given because she wants you to think she wrote it

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Try and keep up because I have already provided the link you filthy liar. I have never claimed that the words are mine only that they support what I have claimed which is what the person requested

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#117259 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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They were twisting their lies around the following:
Zechariah 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
They just focused on 2/3 Jews killed. They love only the scriptures they think resonates with their hatred.
Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
The bible doesn't lie unlike you
sheilaa

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#117260 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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We know your true desire is to be one of those virgins in allah's heaven. Waiting for the troops to arrive, no longer envious of a brown tongue.
"We"? The only person who you speak for is yourself you arrogant dummy. I think you are a closet Jew not a Christian, no real Christian would post and use the type of language that you do.
USA Born

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#117261 Feb 19, 2014
Sheilaa wrote:
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Sure I have and I have also shown how you don't know the meaning of soul. Of course you would agree with another dummy
ROTFLMAO Stupid minion.

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#117262 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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ROTFLMAO Stupid minion.
Yes you are. A servant of Satan no less

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#117263 Feb 19, 2014

2/3 of Israel will be destroyed in the coming war...
...but 1/3 will prevail and her enemies will be destroyed.

"And it shall come to pass

in all the Land (Israel), says the Lord,

That two-thirds of it shall be cut off and die,

but one-third shall be left in it:

I will bring the one-third through the fire,

will refine them as gold is tested.

They will call on My Name,

and I will answer them.

I will say,'This is My people';

and each one will say,'the LORD is my God.'"

(Zechariah 13:8-9)

See how Israel needs to be refined and put through the fire? That is why 2/3rds of its people will be exterminated. They returned back to Israel in disbelief

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#117264 Feb 19, 2014
Lord Curzon on Palestine as a Class A Mandate: League of Nations said ‘Homeland for Jews’ not a Legal Claim on Territory

By Juan Cole | Mar. 18, 2010 |

I posted Tuesday on the legal implications of the League of Nations’ recognition of Palestine as a “Class A” Mandate, i.e. a former Ottoman territory nearly ready for national independence, to which the mandatory authority (i.e. Britain) was to lend ‘administrative assistance’ in its attainment of independence. I received some strange mail from fanatics afterward, insisting that the British Mandate of Palestine was not recognized as a Class A Mandate. A scholar also wrote me to point out that unlike the case with Iraq and Syria, the British brought the Balfour Declaration into the Mandate document. The latter is true, but not relevant to my point, since the League of Nations interpreted the language of the declaration differently than did the Zionists. Others complained that the map starts in the mid-1920s after the British had already hived off Transjordan. But so what? If Class A Mandates were almost ready for independence, why couldn’t some portion of them be granted independence first? The French also split the Mandate of Syria into two parts, Syria and Lebanon. What has that got to do with anything?

The legal history does not bear out any of these objections to my argument. The following British archival document makes it very clear that the British were forced by France and Italy not to disregard the interests of the over 90% of their mandate that was Palestinian, and that London revised its Mandate document under pressure as a result. The League of Nations created and granted the Mandate, contrary to what Balfour kept sputtering (he was not even in office 1922-1924). What the victorious Powers and the League of Nations wanted has to be part of the interpretation of the Mandate’s charge. The League of Nations wanted the British Mandate of Palestine to serve the Palestinians in accordance with their status as “Class A.” It envisaged a Palestinian state. Indeed, Sir Herbert Samuel, the first governor of the British Mandate of Palestine, urged that the “future government of Palestine” be required to repay any loans raised during the Mandate for its development. So they envisaged a future government of Palestine, which they assumed would be overwhelmingly Palestinian.

As for the language about a Jewish homeland, by that was not meant a territorial state on Palestinian land. Curzon is clear that although the Powers at the Versailles conferences after WW I recognized a Jewish connection to Palestine and the Balfour Declaration,“this was far from constituting anything in the nature of a legal claim ...” He also reports that the Powers said that “while Mr. Balfour’s Declaration had provided for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, this was not the same thing as the reconstitution of Palestine as a Jewish National Home–an extension of the phrase for which there was no justification ...”

So here is the Memorandum of Lord Curzon, British Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, concerning League of Nations “Class A” Mandates in November 30, 1920. British National Archives, Catalogue Reference: CAB/24/115. Crown copyright.(Note that I am not reproducing the entire document, leaving out some discussion of arrangements in Iraq):

To be continued:

http://www.juancole.com/2010/03/lord-curzon-o...
USA Born

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#117265 Feb 19, 2014
sheilaa wrote:
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"We"? The only person who you speak for is yourself you arrogant dummy. I think you are a closet Jew not a Christian, no real Christian would post and use the type of language that you do.
Arrogant dummy? How Christian of you.

I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to your like minded hater who used "we" in the same way smartie.

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#117266 Feb 19, 2014
MANDATES A.

MEMORANDUM BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS.[Lord Curzon].

A FINAL decision about Mandates A is required. The Assembly of the League of Nations is concerned about their submission to the Council, and will probably not allow the gathering at Geneva to come to an end without a decision being taken on the point.

It is understood that the Council of the League is likely to hold a meeting while at Geneva to consider these Mandates, and it has been informed that they will be submitted without further delay. The Mandates concerned are those for Syria, Mesopotamia and Palestine.

The French Mandate for Syria is drawn on the same lines as ours for Mesopotamia, though not actually identical with it. There is nothing in it to which we desire to object.

The Mandate for Mesopotamia has passed through several stages, tending in each case to further simplification. It has been shown to, and approved by, the French and Italian Governments, to whom we were under a pledge at San Remo to submit it In its last printed form this Mandate was approved by the Cabinet a few weeks ago ...

As regards the Palestine Mandate, this Mandate also has passed through several revises. When it was first shown to the French Government it at once excited their vehement criticisms on the ground of its almost exclusively Zionist complexion and of the manner in which the interests and rights of the Arab majority (amounting to about nine-tenths of the population) were ignored. The Italian Government expressed similar apprehensions. It was felt that this would constitute a very serious, and possibly a fatal, objection when the Mandate came ultimately before the Council of the League. The Mandate, therefore, was largely rewritten, and finally received their assent. It was also considered by an Inter-Departmental Conference here, in which the Foreign Office, Board of Trade, War Office and India Office were represented, and which passed the final draft.

In the course of these discussions strong objection was taken to a statement which had been inserted in the Preamble of the first draft to the following effect:—” Recognising the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and the claim which this gives them to reconstitute Palestine as their National Home.”

To be continued

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#117267 Feb 19, 2014
It was pointed out (1) that, while the Powers had unquestionably recognised the historical connection of the Jews with Palestine by their formal acceptance of the Balfour Declaration and their textual incorporation of it in the Turkish Peace Treaty drafted at San Remo, this was far from constituting anything in the nature of a legal claim, and that the use of such words might be, and was, indeed, certain to be, used as the basis of all sorts of political claims by the Zionists for the control of Palestinian administration in the future, and ;2) that, while Mr. Balfour’s Declaration had provided for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, this was not the same thing as the reconstitution of Palestine as a Jewish National Home–an extension of the phrase for which there was no justification, and which was certain to be employed in the future as the basis for claims of the character to which I have referred. On the other hand, the Zionists pleaded for the insertion of some such phrase in the preamble, on the ground that it would make all the difference to the money that they aspired to raise in foreign, countries for the development of Palestine. Mr. Balfour, who interested himself keenly in their case, admitted, however, the force of the above contentions, and, on the eve of leaving for Geneva, suggested an alternative form of words which I am prepared to recommend.

Paragraph 3 of the Preamble would then conclude as follows (vide the words italicised in the Draft-;

” and whereas recognition lias thereby (i.e., by the Treaty of Sevres) been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine, and to the grounds for reconstituting their National Home in that country.”

Simultaneously the Zionists pressed for the concession of preferential rights for themselves in respect of public works, &c, in Article 11.

It was felt unanimously, and was agreed by Mr. Balfour, that there was no ground for making this concession, which ought to be refused...

During the last few hours a telegram has been received from Sir H. Samuel, urging that, in order to facilitate the raising of loans by the Palestine Administration, which will otherwise be impossible, words should be added to Article 27, providing that on the termination of the Mandate, the future Government of Palestine shall fully honour the financial obligations incurred by the Palestinian Administration during the period of the Mandate. This appears to be a quite reasonable demand, and I have accordingly added words (italicised at the end of Article 27) in order to meet it. With this explanation, therefore, I hope that the Mandates in the form now submitted may be formally passed and forwarded to the Council of the League.

http://www.juancole.com/2010/03/lord-curzon-o...

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#117268 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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Arrogant dummy? How Christian of you.
I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to your like minded hater who used "we" in the same way smartie.
That doesn't stop you from using the word yourself. Arrogant dummy is exactly what you are. There is no problem with calling a spade a spade and it has nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with the lies you post. I'm still waiting for a response re the words soul and spirit but I doubt I will get it as you have no evidence to dispute what I have posted LMAO
USA Born

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#117269 Feb 19, 2014
Sheilaa wrote:
2/3 of Israel will be destroyed in the coming war...
...but 1/3 will prevail and her enemies will be destroyed.
"And it shall come to pass
in all the Land (Israel), says the Lord,
That two-thirds of it shall be cut off and die,
but one-third shall be left in it:
I will bring the one-third through the fire,
will refine them as gold is tested.
They will call on My Name,
and I will answer them.
I will say,'This is My people';
and each one will say,'the LORD is my God.'"
(Zechariah 13:8-9)
See how Israel needs to be refined and put through the fire? That is why 2/3rds of its people will be exterminated. They returned back to Israel in disbelief
The scriptures you posted say "but one-third shall be left in it": Why is that so hard for you?
George

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#117270 Feb 19, 2014
Sheilaa wrote:
It was pointed out (1) that, while the Powers had unquestionably recognised the historical connection of the Jews with Palestine by their formal acceptance of the Balfour Declaration and their textual incorporation of it in the Turkish Peace Treaty drafted at San Remo, this was far from constituting anything in the nature of a legal claim, and that the use of such words might be, and was, indeed, certain to be, used as the basis of all sorts of political claims by the Zionists for the control of Palestinian administration in the future, and ;2) that, while Mr. Balfour’s Declaration had provided for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, this was not the same thing as the reconstitution of Palestine as a Jewish National Home–an extension of the phrase for which there was no justification, and which was certain to be employed in the future as the basis for claims of the character to which I have referred. On the other hand, the Zionists pleaded for the insertion of some such phrase in the preamble, on the ground that it would make all the difference to the money that they aspired to raise in foreign, countries for the development of Palestine. Mr. Balfour, who interested himself keenly in their case, admitted, however, the force of the above contentions, and, on the eve of leaving for Geneva, suggested an alternative form of words which I am prepared to recommend.
Paragraph 3 of the Preamble would then conclude as follows (vide the words italicised in the Draft-;
” and whereas recognition lias thereby (i.e., by the Treaty of Sevres) been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine, and to the grounds for reconstituting their National Home in that country.”
Simultaneously the Zionists pressed for the concession of preferential rights for themselves in respect of public works, &c, in Article 11.
It was felt unanimously, and was agreed by Mr. Balfour, that there was no ground for making this concession, which ought to be refused...
During the last few hours a telegram has been received from Sir H. Samuel, urging that, in order to facilitate the raising of loans by the Palestine Administration, which will otherwise be impossible, words should be added to Article 27, providing that on the termination of the Mandate, the future Government of Palestine shall fully honour the financial obligations incurred by the Palestinian Administration during the period of the Mandate. This appears to be a quite reasonable demand, and I have accordingly added words (italicised at the end of Article 27) in order to meet it. With this explanation, therefore, I hope that the Mandates in the form now submitted may be formally passed and forwarded to the Council of the League.
http://www.juancole.com/2010/03/lord-curzon-o...
OMG Shiela, is it really that important to you, that your opinion is the correct one??? I mean you keep going ballistic on anyone that says something slightly different or completely different, are they not entitled to an opinion as well? Between you and Gray you try to dominate this thread not allowing anyone to say anything positive or at least anything about Israel or Jews, you almost seem to be foaming at the mouth. Hey lets let the Palestinians talk to the Israeli and work it out, did you read the link I put on with Jews and Arabs working together in the hospitals, isn't that a better solution than arguing about this stupid 2000 year old war or 60 year old war, its OVER, Israel exists so learn how to deal with it, go to councelling, this hatred is eating you up alive.
USA Born

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#117271 Feb 19, 2014
Sheilaa wrote:
2/3 of Israel will be destroyed in the coming war...
...but 1/3 will prevail and her enemies will be destroyed.
"And it shall come to pass
in all the Land (Israel), says the Lord,
That two-thirds of it shall be cut off and die,
but one-third shall be left in it:
I will bring the one-third through the fire,
will refine them as gold is tested.
They will call on My Name,
and I will answer them.
I will say,'This is My people';
and each one will say,'the LORD is my God.'"
(Zechariah 13:8-9)
See how Israel needs to be refined and put through the fire? That is why 2/3rds of its people will be exterminated. They returned back to Israel in disbelief
Do you really believe the Jews need to be refined but the gentiles and heathens don't? God has not left Israel.

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#117272 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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This is a perfect description of you USA:

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction,” 2 Peter 2:1.
The fact that you believe in an immortal soul is just one example of your heresy. The trinity is another example. Dispute what I have posted if you can.

All you are capable of doing is posting derogatory comments but no evidence to dispute what I have claimed

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#117273 Feb 19, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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Do you really believe the Jews need to be refined but the gentiles and heathens don't? God has not left Israel.
I believe that we all need to be refined but the Jews were God's chosen people and he will refine them, and 2/3 of them will be gone as is written in the bible

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#117274 Feb 19, 2014
George wrote:
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OMG Shiela, is it really that important to you, that your opinion is the correct one??? I mean you keep going ballistic on anyone that says something slightly different or completely different, are they not entitled to an opinion as well? Between you and Gray you try to dominate this thread not allowing anyone to say anything positive or at least anything about Israel or Jews, you almost seem to be foaming at the mouth. Hey lets let the Palestinians talk to the Israeli and work it out, did you read the link I put on with Jews and Arabs working together in the hospitals, isn't that a better solution than arguing about this stupid 2000 year old war or 60 year old war, its OVER, Israel exists so learn how to deal with it, go to councelling, this hatred is eating you up alive.
No George it is not so much important to me because I am not a Palestinian but it is important for them who have been discriminated against to get their message out there. I am just one person voicing my opinion in support of them and bringing the message to others.

The majority of the people on this thread don't address the situation and are apologists for Israel. The Palestinians need people to speak out on their behalf and I for one am happy to do that.

The fact that Israel exists is neither here nor there, so does murder but it doesn't make it right. When Jesus returns two thirds of the Jews living in Israel will be wiped out. The Palestinians are speaking out and unlike the propaganda machine of Israel with its money and media domination, people like me are needed to speak out on their behalf to support them.

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