Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2190 Feb 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text>scientifically early tamil inscriptions are old as 250 b.c. The sangam grammer composed between 100 b.c to 400 a.d. The tamil script was quickly developed between the gap of 150 years
FYI,
Thirukkural one enough to say tamil is oldest & classical language in india.2nd century BCE .
Tirukkural sometimes spelt 'Thirukkural, is a classic of couplets or Kurals (1330 rhyming Tamil couplets) or aphorisms.It was authored by Thiruvalluvar, a poet who is said to have lived anytime between 2nd century BCE . It is one of the Tamil books of Law.
The Thirukkural is one of the most important works in the Tamil language. This is reflected in some of the other names by which the text is known: Tamil marai (Tamil Vedas); poyyamozhi (words that never fail); and Deiva nool (divine text). The book is considered to precede Manimekalai and Silapathikaram since they both acknowledge the Kural text.
Thirukkural (or the Kural) is a collection of 1330 Tamil couplets organised into 133 chapters. Each chapter has a specific subject ranging from "ploughing a piece of land" to "ruling a country". It preaches simplicity and truth throughout its verses.
It has been translated to various other languages.Many Tamil researchers and scholars including G.U. Pope have translated the Tirukkural to the western world in 1886;Tamil to English.
Thirukural is praised with many names such as:
1.Uttaravedam - the Superior-Vedam (uttara = Superior / Higher / Future, vedam = Veda)
2.Poyyamozhi - Statements devoid of untruth
3.Vayurai vazhthu - truthful utterances
4.Deyvanool - the divine book
5.Pothumarai - the common-man's Veda
6.Muppal - threefold path
7.Tamil marai - Tamil Veda
. This work is the first translation to the English language.
The following is a list of translations/commentaries of the Tamil literary classic THIRUKURAL - taken out from the Encyclopaedia of Tamil Literature, vol. 1, Inst. of Asian Studies, India.
01) Arabic 02) Bangla 03) Burmese 04) Chinese 05) Czech 06) Dutch 07) English 08) Fiji 09) Finnish 10) French 11) German 12) Gujarati 13) Hindi 14) Hungarian 15) Italian 16) Japanese 17) Kannada 18) Konkani 19) Korean 20) Latin 21) Malay 22) Malayalam 23) Marathi 24) Nederlands 25) Norwegian 26) Oriya 27) Polish 28) Punjabi 29) Rajasthani 30) Russian 31) Sanskrit 32) Saurashtra 33) Sinhalese 34) Spanish 35) Swedish 36) Telugu 37) Urdu
THIRUKURAL
1.Something may not be achievable even by God or through God's help. But the effort exerted to attain that non-achievable will yield its deserving result!
2.Though the world goes round with many activities, it is dependent on agriculture. Hence, though laborious, farming is the foremost activity.
3.As water changes its nature, from the nature of the soil in which it flows, so will the character of men resemble that of their associates.
4.Friendship is not just a smile on the face; It is what is felt deep within a smiling heart.
The stalks of water-flowers are proportionate to the depth of water; so is men's greatness proportionate to their minds (Knowledge).
5.Avoid an act which you may repent later; If done by mistake, better not to repeat it.
Whatever is thought to be done will be achieved as planned, if the planners possess firmness in execution.
6.Excessive or deficient food or activity causes disorders in mobility, breathing and digestion.
Agriculturists are the linchpin of the mankind since they support all others who cannot till the soil.
7.The learned teacher makes you enjoy learning; On leaving, makes you to keep thinking of his teaching.
8.Think and then undertake the work; to think after commencement will bring disgrace.
Determined efforts result in prosperity; Idleness will bring nothing.
9.Defer not virtue to another day; receive her now; and at the dying hour she will be your undying friend.
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2191 Feb 19, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text>scientifically early tamil inscriptions are old as 250 b.c. The sangam grammer composed between 100 b.c to 400 a.d. The tamil script was quickly developed between the gap of 150 years
Thirukkural one enough to say tamil is oldest & classical language in india.2nd century BCE

The Kural has been translated into most languages, next only to the Bible .

Tirukkural sometimes spelt 'Thirukkural, is a classic of couplets or Kurals (1330 rhyming Tamil couplets) or aphorisms. It was authored by Thiruvalluvar, a poet who is said to have lived 2nd century BCE and 5th century CE. Most believe he wrote Thirukkural in 30 BC which is part of Tamil Sangam Period.[citation needed] It is one of the Tamil books of Law.

The Thirukkural is one of the most important works in the Tamil language. This is reflected in some of the other names by which the text is known: Tamil marai (Tamil Vedas); poyyamozhi (words that never fail); and Deiva nool (divine text).The book is considered to precede Manimekalai and Silapathikaram since they both acknowledge the Kural text.

Thirukkural (or the Kural) is a collection of 1330 Tamil couplets organised into 133 chapters. Each chapter has a specific subject ranging from "ploughing a piece of land" to "ruling a country". It preaches simplicity and truth throughout its verses.

Thirukural is praised with many names such as:

1.Uttaravedam - the Superior-Vedam (uttara = Superior / Higher / Future, vedam = Veda)
2.Poyyamozhi - Statements devoid of untruth
3.Vayurai vazhthu - truthful utterances
4.Deyvanool - the divine book
5.Pothumarai - the common-man's Veda
6.Muppal - threefold path
7.Tamil marai - Tamil Veda

1.Something may not be achievable even by God or through God's help. But the effort exerted to attain that non-achievable will yield its deserving result!
2.Though the world goes round with many activities, it is dependent on agriculture. Hence, though laborious, farming is the foremost activity.
3.As water changes its nature, from the nature of the soil in which it flows, so will the character of men resemble that of their associates.
4.Friendship is not just a smile on the face; It is what is felt deep within a smiling heart.
The stalks of water-flowers are proportionate to the depth of water; so is men's greatness proportionate to their minds (Knowledge).
5.Avoid an act which you may repent later; If done by mistake, better not to repeat it.
6.Whatever is thought to be done will be achieved as planned, if the planners possess firmness in execution.
Excessive or deficient food or activity causes disorders in mobility, breathing and digestion.
Agriculturists are the linchpin of the mankind since they support all others who cannot till the soil.
The learned teacher makes you enjoy learning; On leaving, makes you to keep thinking of his teaching.
Think and then undertake the work; to think after commencement will bring disgrace.
Determined efforts result in prosperity; Idleness will bring nothing.
Defer not virtue to another day; receive her now; and at the dying hour she will be your undying friend.
Water will flow from a water well in proportion to the depth to which it is dug, and knowledge will flow from a man in proportion to his learning.
That which God gives, nobody can ban. That which God bans, nobody can give.
If any one do wrong thing for you, do good thing for them.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#2192 Feb 19, 2014
keanu13 wrote:
Hi
There is hot debate between north India and south (especially in Tamil Nadu) regarding the oldest language?
Many claims that Tamil is the oldest where mythic stories (let's assume if its true) suggest Sanskrit is the oldest!
My Question is there any scientific proof exist?
My question is what, if any, language were the Siberian people who crossed over to North America using the Bering straits 15,000 years ago using?

Since: Sep 13

Mysore, India

#2193 Feb 19, 2014
Devenagari is he oldest in all.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2194 Feb 20, 2014
Many countries r developed well than india that doesn,t mean those countries r older than india,same goes to tamil script and language,facts about tamilnadu;early tamil inscriptions only 250 b.c. Tamil brahmi was introduced by ashoka from bhattiprolu telugu inscriptions,sangam literature 100 b.c to 400 a.d.,agasthya a north indian who created tamil language,tamil literature modified and copied from vedas bcoz the tamil script was developed quicker than others,tamilnadu is formed with 42%of telugu origins,many villages & districts in tn r dominated by telugu people,tamilnadu is ruled by north indian kings like early cholas(vellalars of north india)pandyas(devars of north west india)cheras(sinhalese)medieva l cholas(telugus)pallavas(telugu s)nayaks(telugus) temples in tamilnadu were builted by telugus
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2195 Feb 20, 2014
widom tree wrote:
all you people are blind and obnoxious ,the oldest language is not known . it cannot be sanskrit or tamil. the tamil sangams are to be decoded properly before making claims they say it spans over 10000 years which is simply impossible . and there was no such thing as lemuria its a theory a very baseless theory . sanskrit is an aryan language from present day iran . other languages were spoken before it came into india . the first humans migrated from africa upon reaching asia split west ward and east ward . the tribe that reached india who are now called DRAVIDIAN{it means tamil and has nothin to do with it ,i really dont wanna use it but no choice}. the dravidians spread along the cost from west coast to the southern tip to west coast . the tsunamis mentioned in the sangam literature are true but they do not span back 10000 years . the whole sangam literature can be false as they claim lemuria which s not scientifaclly possible . the dravidians spoke their own language they were first settled in indus hence harappan settlement proof is there are no signs of horses but plenty signs of snake representations proving it to be dravidian settlement. the dravidians are basically africans like everyone are . their customs and traditions are very close to the egyptian civilization . the god shiva is purely dravidian and the god murugan the god living in the hills also is dravidian and in africa 24 tribes worship a god called murgum even today indicating the dravidian roots . shiva possibly is the only male god .the oldest known god as the dravidians were female centric aand worshipped godessess. theres s much similarity between shiva and muruga , coming to languages . the oldest dravidian spoken language might be in balochistan and the oldest indian dravidian language may be tulu . or kannada or tamil. but it can be proven that tamil and kannada are equally old and are somewhat twins because they originate from the same mother and tulu their elder brother . highly speculative but no real answer . tamil is the second oldest written language after sanskrit . kannada couldn have a written form as the tamils were barbarians and ruled the dravidian clan and the kannada speaking tulu speaking telugu speaking tribes were continously invaded from aryans inn the north and tamils in south hence it took some time for kannada and telugu to develop in writing .any one saying tamil is the oldest language is just a fanatic and ignorant person i suggest u to be practical . it can be the oldest in india just lik how kannada and tulu can be but definetly not the oldest in the world . and sanskrit could be older simply because it comes from central asia the point where the first humans split west and east . but that too is not the oldest . the oldest language must be in africa as that s were the first humans lived and it must have sounds understood like words . please think before commenting . the tamil fanatisicm is just making the others look down on this great dravidian tribe . been a student of linguastics from ten years and have presented many papers on why sanskrit is not the olddest language. and also please remember we all are decendents of the primary tribe who lived in africa so we are all brothers . spread love spread peace
aryan invasion theory and indo european language theory is fake created by britishers to rule india and indian culture
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2196 Feb 20, 2014
To S less widom,Aryan invasion theory and indo european language theory is a fake,aryan and dravidian theory was created by british people for the colonial exploitation to divide and rule indian people and there is zero % similiarity between sanskrit and european and iranian languages,aryan means not a race nor north indians arya is a word means noble,truth,intellectual aryan is a word used to mention the genius and strongest people of ancient india. A sanskrit sentence "krinvanto vishwam aryam" means make the whole world noble. Another theory humans originated in africa is also false imagination,human speices and living creatures are born in every part of the world,for ex;trees,small living creatures,insects,animals are born in every part of the world same happens in the matter of the human beings. The five elements earth,sky,fire,water,air can make the every living creature to born in everycorner of the world with different colours,features in the matter of humans or animals
Panner selvan

Ashburn, VA

#2197 Feb 20, 2014
widom tree wrote:
all you people are blind and obnoxious ,the oldest language is not known . it cannot be sanskrit or tamil. the tamil sangams are to be decoded properly before making claims they say it spans over 10000 years which is simply impossible . and there was no such thing as lemuria its a theory a very baseless theory . sanskrit is an aryan language from present day iran . other languages were spoken before it came into india . the first humans migrated from africa upon reaching asia split west ward and east ward . the tribe that reached india who are now called DRAVIDIAN{it means tamil and has nothin to do with it ,i really dont wanna use it but no choice}. the dravidians spread along the cost from west coast to the southern tip to west coast . the tsunamis mentioned in the sangam literature are true but they do not span back 10000 years . the whole sangam literature can be false as they claim lemuria which s not scientifaclly possible . the dravidians spoke their own language they were first settled in indus hence harappan settlement proof is there are no signs of horses but plenty signs of snake representations proving it to be dravidian settlement. the dravidians are basically africans like everyone are . their customs and traditions are very close to the egyptian civilization . the god shiva is purely dravidian and the god murugan the god living in the hills also is dravidian and in africa 24 tribes worship a god called murgum even today indicating the dravidian roots . shiva possibly is the only male god .the oldest known god as the dravidians were female centric aand worshipped godessess. theres s much similarity between shiva and muruga , coming to languages . the oldest dravidian spoken language might be in balochistan and the oldest indian dravidian language may be tulu . or kannada or tamil. but it can be proven that tamil and kannada are equally old and are somewhat twins because they originate from the same mother and tulu their elder brother . highly speculative but no real answer . tamil is the second oldest written language after sanskrit . kannada couldn have a written form as the tamils were barbarians and ruled the dravidian clan and the kannada speaking tulu speaking telugu speaking tribes were continously invaded from aryans inn the north and tamils in south hence it took some time for kannada and telugu to develop in writing .any one saying tamil is the oldest language is just a fanatic and ignorant person i suggest u to be practical . it can be the oldest in india just lik how kannada and tulu can be but definetly not the oldest in the world . and sanskrit could be older simply because it comes from central asia the point where the first humans split west and east . but that too is not the oldest . the oldest language must be in africa as that s were the first humans lived and it must have sounds understood like words . please think before commenting . the tamil fanatisicm is just making the others look down on this great dravidian tribe . been a student of linguastics from ten years and have presented many papers on why sanskrit is not the olddest language. and also please remember we all are decendents of the primary tribe who lived in africa so we are all brothers . spread love spread peace
he might belongs to karnataka and claiming tulu and kannada dominating tamil and telugu
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#2198 Feb 21, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Carnatic music originated from goddess saraswathi,u wrote about nayanmars,azhmars but they did not composed any songs or music,how they will be the base of carnatic to follow by others,some saints has special ability to compose better than others those are greater telugus r the intelligent poets & composers,and u copied this information from the wiki but u dont know who are best composers and devotees. U go and ask some traditional music composers about the great saints and devotees,they will say about the annamacharya,sriramadasa,tyaga raja etc... And telugu carnatic is the best of whole india,especially u should have to know about the life of sriramadasu,annamacharya,and from the list u mentioned who composed more devotional songs!telugus, which sankeerthans are available till now,and telugu carnatic is best and sweet with rich mystic lyrics,and u mentioned wrong about kshetragna he composed more than 4000 sankeerthanas . Early tamil inscriptions 250 b.c. Sangam literature 100 b.c.to 400 a.d.and the ephigraphical inscriptions are engraved by non tamils,like pallavas(telugus),medieval cholas(telugus),nayaks(telugus ) not engraved by early kings who ruled tamilnadu from north india like cholas(vellalars of north india)cheras(sinhalese)pandyas (devars of north west india) founder of tamil language (agasthya from north india) where r tamils here?what a shamefull history that tamilnadu had? thu.... Ugly tamil history,i really pity u tamils,tamilnadu was formed and ruled by north indians and andhras,and u tamil dalits lived as slaves under these kings poor fellows
Hey, By seeing ur posts i observe that, day by day u r becoming mad. go and consult some good Psychiatrist. u cannot change the history. ur postings are all fake. Telugu is the mixture of Arab,sanskrit,tamil and kannada. the telugu language was formed sometimes in the ADs. no kings esisted in telugu except Krishnadevaraya of Vijayanagar. simply u borrow the words from tamil and add Lu Lu Lu and make it as Telugu. and finally u are not going to stop BattiproLU. u telugu fool. Fool Lu
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2199 Feb 21, 2014
Vinod S wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, By seeing ur posts i observe that, day by day u r becoming mad. go and consult some good Psychiatrist. u cannot change the history. ur postings are all fake. Telugu is the mixture of Arab,sanskrit,tamil and kannada. the telugu language was formed sometimes in the ADs. no kings esisted in telugu except Krishnadevaraya of Vijayanagar. simply u borrow the words from tamil and add Lu Lu Lu and make it as Telugu. and finally u are not going to stop BattiproLU. u telugu fool. Fool Lu
vinod foolan,it seems u cant digest the facts,no original history from tamilnadu and tamil people african big toothed fools
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2200 Feb 21, 2014
Vinod foolan,ur tamil fools borrowed words from telugu and lastly added "an" and changed the sounds of words. Totally tamilnadu is a fake state,only temles existed in tamilnadu but not culture from tamil people,infact those temples was builted by telugus,tamil region was a tribal region in the steppes and was lately influenced by sanskrit,tamilnadu was created by north indians early cholas(vellalars of north india)pandyas(devars of north west india)cheras(sinhalese)mid cholas,pallavas and nayaks r andhras, agasthya a north india created tamil language,where are tamil people here?did anything was originated in tamilnadu or by tamil peoples!Is telugu mixture of arab and tamil, beggar show me arab and tamil words in telugu,i can show u telugu words and sanskrit words in tamil language,infact tamil was created by a north indian,if u dont know facts and history shut up everything.i cant change the history but the facts are facts,tamilnadu is a fake state created by north indians and andhras,number of famous people in tamilnadu and tamil nri people r origin from telugu,tamilnadu is never better r greater than andhra and karnataka remember this
KUMAR

Dubai, UAE

#2201 Feb 21, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Vinod foolan,ur tamil fools borrowed words from telugu and lastly added "an" and changed the sounds of words. Totally tamilnadu is a fake state,only temles existed in tamilnadu but not culture from tamil people,infact those temples was builted by telugus,tamil region was a tribal region in the steppes and was lately influenced by sanskrit,tamilnadu was created by north indians early cholas(vellalars of north india)pandyas(devars of north west india)cheras(sinhalese)mid cholas,pallavas and nayaks r andhras, agasthya a north india created tamil language,where are tamil people here?did anything was originated in tamilnadu or by tamil peoples!Is telugu mixture of arab and tamil, beggar show me arab and tamil words in telugu,i can show u telugu words and sanskrit words in tamil language,infact tamil was created by a north indian,if u dont know facts and history shut up everything.i cant change the history but the facts are facts,tamilnadu is a fake state created by north indians and andhras,number of famous people in tamilnadu and tamil nri people r origin from telugu,tamilnadu is never better r greater than andhra and karnataka remember this
Difference Between Tamil and Telugu
Tamil vs Telugu
Tamil and Telugu are Dravidian languages that are spoken in the southern states of India. Tamil is spoken in Tamil Nadu and Telugu in Andhra Pradesh. There are a number of differences between these two languages. The Indian Government declared Tamil a classical language in 2004. It is the only Dravidian language that has this classical status.
The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages. It is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between 3 BC and 3 AD. The earliest Telugu inscription can be dated back to 575 AD and has been attributed to Renati Cholas. It was in the tenth century AD that Telugu literature began.
The influence of the Sanskrit language can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas the Tamil language has not been much influenced by it. In grammar, the Tamil language has its own grammatical structure whereas the influence of Sanskrit is clearly evident in the Telugu language.
There are also significant differences in the scripts of the two Dravidian languages. Tamil has one special character aytam, 12 vowels and 18 consonants. In Telugu, there are 41 consonants, 16 vowels and three vowel modifiers. Almost all the Telugu words end in a vowel sound.
While a lot of Sanskrit words have been adopted in the Telugu language, the Tamil language has adopted words from Malay, Munda, Greek, Chinese, Urdu, Persian, Marathi and Arabic.
Summary
1.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
2.The Indian Government declared Tamil a classical language in 2004. It is the only Dravidian language that has this classical status.
3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
4.The Tamil language is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between BC 3 and AD 3.
5.The earliest Telugu inscription can be dated back to 575 AD and has been attributed to Renati Cholas.
6.The influence of Sanskrit can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas Tamil has not been influenced by it much.
7.There are also significant difference in the scripts of the two Dravidian languages.
Hoysala Fan

Bangalore, India

#2203 Feb 21, 2014
Ya i agree sanskrit not influenced on tamil so Tamil ppl pronunciation is not good lik kannada ppl.
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#2204 Feb 21, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Vinod foolan,ur tamil fools borrowed words from telugu and lastly added "an" and changed the sounds of words. Totally tamilnadu is a fake state,only temles existed in tamilnadu but not culture from tamil people,infact those temples was builted by telugus,tamil region was a tribal region in the steppes and was lately influenced by sanskrit,tamilnadu was created by north indians early cholas(vellalars of north india)pandyas(devars of north west india)cheras(sinhalese)mid cholas,pallavas and nayaks r andhras, agasthya a north india created tamil language,where are tamil people here?did anything was originated in tamilnadu or by tamil peoples!Is telugu mixture of arab and tamil, beggar show me arab and tamil words in telugu,i can show u telugu words and sanskrit words in tamil language,infact tamil was created by a north indian,if u dont know facts and history shut up everything.i cant change the history but the facts are facts,tamilnadu is a fake state created by north indians and andhras,number of famous people in tamilnadu and tamil nri people r origin from telugu,tamilnadu is never better r greater than andhra and karnataka remember this
TeluguLu NaveenLu FoolLu, Where ever you google, Wiki the history remains the same. All the great south indian kings are Tamils all the temples are built by Tamils. your andra was ruled by muslim dynasty. Defeat is not common with telugu kingdoms good example is Krishnadevaraya who got defeated. telugu lang speaking totally borrowed by sanskrit, Tamil and the script copied from Kannada. what is comedy telugu history is? Ha ha Lu, ha ha Lu ha ha Lu.
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#2205 Feb 21, 2014
Vishnu wrote:
<quoted text> telugu is the oldest language in south india
FYI,

Difference Between Tamil and Telugu & Sanskrit

Tamil vs Telugu

1.Telugu Grammar (11th century A.D ) vs Tolkappiyam ( Tamil Grammar )- 3rd century BCE

2.Tamil and Telugu are Dravidian languages that are spoken in the southern states of India. Tamil is spoken in Tamil Nadu and Telugu in Andhra Pradesh. There are a number of differences between these two languages. The Indian Government declared Tamil a classical language in 2004. It is the only Dravidian language that has this classical status.

3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages. It is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between 6 BC and 3 AD. The Pre-Nannayya Period (before 1020 AD) In the earliest period Telugu literature existed in the form of inscriptions, precisely from 575 AD on-wards. Most of the works were translations from Sanskrit. It was in the tenth century AD that Telugu literature began.

4.The influence of the Sanskrit language can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas the Tamil language has not been much influenced by it. In grammar, the Tamil language has its own grammatical structure whereas the influence of Sanskrit is clearly evident in the Telugu language.

5.Saskrit - No native script , How they written all vedas in saskrits (Devanagari ). Devanagari are first attested from the 7th century CE. May be all vedas first Written in Tamil.

Summary

1.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
2.The Indian Government declared first Tamil a classical language in 2004.
3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
4.The Tamil language is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between BC 3 and AD 3.
5.The earliest Telugu inscription can be dated back to 575 AD and has been attributed to Renati Cholas.
6.The influence of Sanskrit can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas Tamil has not been influenced by it much.
Finaly

Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world. It has been described as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past and having "one of the richest literatures in the world".Tamil literature has existed for over 3000 years. The earliest epigraphic records found on rock edicts and hero stones date from around the 6th century BC.
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#2206 Feb 21, 2014
Telugu warriors wrote:
<quoted text>
Telugu is the oldest language in india (sanskrit borrowed many words from telugu to make its grammer complete , with out telugu there is no sanskrit )
telugu is the oldest language in india , sanskrit born around 200AD and tamil born around 3300BC and telugu born around 3400BC .......dont be in a false propagation that tamil and sanskrit are old languages.
FYI &A,

Difference Between Tamil and Telugu & Sanskrit

Tamil vs Telugu

1.Telugu Grammar (11th century A.D ) vs Tolkappiyam ( Tamil Grammar )- 3rd century BCE

2.Tamil and Telugu are Dravidian languages that are spoken in the southern states of India. Tamil is spoken in Tamil Nadu and Telugu in Andhra Pradesh. There are a number of differences between these two languages. The Indian Government declared Tamil a classical language in 2004. It is the only Dravidian language that has this classical status.

3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages. It is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between 6 BC and 3 AD. The Pre-Nannayya Period (before 1020 AD) In the earliest period Telugu literature existed in the form of inscriptions, precisely from 575 AD on-wards. Most of the works were translations from Sanskrit. It was in the tenth century AD that Telugu literature began.

4.The influence of the Sanskrit language can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas the Tamil language has not been much influenced by it. In grammar, the Tamil language has its own grammatical structure whereas the influence of Sanskrit is clearly evident in the Telugu language.

5.Saskrit - No native script , How they written all vedas in saskrits (Devanagari ). Devanagari are first attested from the 7th century CE. May be all vedas first Written in Tamil.

6.Prakrit & Pali are the early north indian language and tamil is the oldest of all indian language.

Summary

1.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
2.The Indian Government declared first Tamil a classical language in 2004.
3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
4.The Tamil language is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between BC 6 and AD 3.
5.The earliest Telugu inscription can be dated back to 575 AD and has been attributed to Renati Cholas.
6.The influence of Sanskrit can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas Tamil has not been influenced by it much.

Finaly,

Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world. It has been described as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past and having "one of the richest literatures in the world".Tamil literature has existed for over 3000 years. The earliest epigraphic records found on rock edicts and hero stones date from around the 6th century BC.
tamil

Chennai, India

#2207 Feb 22, 2014
mr naveen and vishnu, before you write something crazy here, i think you should google unesco classical langauge, telegu comes under middle ages whereas tamil belongs to Antiquity, you entire argument is invalid
tamil

Chennai, India

#2208 Feb 22, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Vinod foolan,ur tamil fools borrowed words from telugu and lastly added "an" and changed the sounds of words. Totally tamilnadu is a fake state,only temles existed in tamilnadu but not culture from tamil people,infact those temples was builted by telugus,tamil region was a tribal region in the steppes and was lately influenced by sanskrit,tamilnadu was created by north indians early cholas(vellalars of north india)pandyas(devars of north west india)cheras(sinhalese)mid cholas,pallavas and nayaks r andhras, agasthya a north india created tamil language,where are tamil people here?did anything was originated in tamilnadu or by tamil peoples!Is telugu mixture of arab and tamil, beggar show me arab and tamil words in telugu,i can show u telugu words and sanskrit words in tamil language,infact tamil was created by a north indian,if u dont know facts and history shut up everything.i cant change the history but the facts are facts,tamilnadu is a fake state created by north indians and andhras,number of famous people in tamilnadu and tamil nri people r origin from telugu,tamilnadu is never better r greater than andhra and karnataka remember this
What the hell you have been smoking, tamil is totally different sanskrit and other indo euro languages,its widely accepted fact if agasthya was a north indian tamil should have sanskrit influence, agasthya compiled early tamil grammer called agasthiam, which mean tamil exists even before agasthiya, you dont write grammer for non existing language,The fact of Agastya's leadership of Velir clan rules out the possibility that he was even in origin an Indo-Aryan speaker. The Velir-Velar-Velalar groups constituted the ruling and the land-owning classes in the Tamil country since the beginning of recorded history and betray no trace whatever of an indo-Aryan linguistic ancestry.
Abhinav

Ashburn, VA

#2209 Feb 22, 2014
Sanskrit has influence in all indian languages even in kannada,tamil,telugu,malayalam also,so sanskrit is the oldest language in india
Abhinav

Ashburn, VA

#2210 Feb 22, 2014
tamil wrote:
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What the hell you have been smoking, tamil is totally different sanskrit and other indo euro languages,its widely accepted fact if agasthya was a north indian tamil should have sanskrit influence, agasthya compiled early tamil grammer called agasthiam, which mean tamil exists even before agasthiya, you dont write grammer for non existing language,The fact of Agastya's leadership of Velir clan rules out the possibility that he was even in origin an Indo-Aryan speaker. The Velir-Velar-Velalar groups constituted the ruling and the land-owning classes in the Tamil country since the beginning of recorded history and betray no trace whatever of an indo-Aryan linguistic ancestry.
show the proofs that agasthiam grammer written before 100 b.c.

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