Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2145 Feb 16, 2014
Chandraprakasham Jain wrote:
Hear, all of you morons.There is nothing called 'Pure Tamizh Origin' or anything like that.Don't twist history like Dravidian fundamentalists.(most of them are dalit tamils & telugu naidus) Iam also a Tamizhan.Facts are facts, problem with Indians is that we are not open to opinions.Here are some facts. It is well recorded in history that Agastya created tamil language after his arrival from Indus Valley.Together he brought Vellalars from Dwaraka under the instruction of Lord Siva. The purpose of creating Tamizh language was for easy communication unlike Sanskrit and Prakrit.Dravidian historians will say that only Brahmins were outsiders to South India especially Tamil country.Which is a big lie.Neither Chola,Chera, Pandya or Pallava dynasties were australoids like most dalits in our country.Chola dynasty was established by Vellalars after some 800years after Agastya.Pandya kingdom came from North West India.It was established by Devars(Sanskrit) or Thevars/Mukkulathors known in Tamil.Pallavas had Iranian ancestary, Cheras were either Ezhavas (Sinhalese & Tamil buddhist warriors of low class origins) or Cheramar Pulaya caste.Even brahmins have a 2500 year old presence in Tamilnadu.Many of them have close genetic relations with these rulers. Some brahmins came very recently say about 1100A.D.They are known as Vadamas,later many of them become Sri Vaishnavas/Vadakalai Iyengars under Ramanujar.Half of sangam literature including 'Thirukural','Purananooru','Ak ananooru','Chilapathikaram' have North Indian Jain origins.
RSS Hindu extremists & Dravidian fundamentalists will never reveal the truth about Jain Sangam Works In Madurai Or True Tamil History.
Meaning of Chola Region = New Country (Central Tamil Nadu)
Meaning Of Pandya = Old Country (South Tamilnadu)
Meaning Of Chera = Hill Country (Kerala)
Meaning Of Pallava = From Pahlavi kingdom In Persia ruled from Kanchi & Chennai.
pallavas are andhras,and tamils,pahlavi are iranians
Hindu Bindu

New Delhi, India

#2146 Feb 16, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> are u male or female,hindu r ex hindu,what r u trying to conclude bastard
OLDEST SURVIVING HINDU SCRIPTURE UNEARTHED TODAY BY ARCHEOLOGISTS!

Astonishing scriptures foud which read as follows:

Mai Hindu Mai Maader Bindu |
Meri Hijadi Qaum Niraali ||
Kehtey Mujhko Sab Hain Hindu |
Dete Mujhko Sab Hain Gaali ||
Mai Naa Sudhri Kabhi Bhi Saali |
Mai To Hoon Ek Gandi Naali ||

The Scripture is said to be narrated by Saraswati!!
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2147 Feb 16, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Brahmi born from bhattiprolu inscriptions and ashoka named it as brahmi and introduced same brahmi to tamil,kannada people and different parts of india,the scripts derived from sanskrit or prakrit is written in devanagiri script such as hindi,nepali,punjabi,bhojpuri, etc... Tholkappiyam is copied grammer from vedic sanskrit betweem 100 b.c and 400 a.d as the script of tamil was developed quicker than others,early inscriptions of tamil brahmi introduced by ashoka and which too not a total developed tamil script from 250 b.c.
Tholkappiam and vedic sanskrit-----Now Naveen moron is accepting indirectly the relation between vedic sanskrit and Tamil.Does he know that Panini Grammar was not written in Sanskrit and For Sanskrit. Panini and Tholkapiar are contomporaries
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2148 Feb 16, 2014
Tholkappiam and vedic sanskrit-----Now Naveen moron is accepting indirectly the relation between vedic sanskrit and Tamil.Does he know that Panini Grammar was not written in Sanskrit and For Sanskrit. Panini and Tholkapiar are contemporaries
Soon he will claim that Tholkapiar know telugu and translated to Tamil.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2149 Feb 16, 2014
Mudaliar wrote:
Tholkappiam and vedic sanskrit-----Now Naveen moron is accepting indirectly the relation between vedic sanskrit and Tamil.Does he know that Panini Grammar was not written in Sanskrit and For Sanskrit. Panini and Tholkapiar are contemporaries
Soon he will claim that Tholkapiar know telugu and translated to Tamil.
tholkappiyam was copied from vedic grammer,tamils copied vedas and also created some fake myths,no history from tamils,tamil early inscriptions 250 b.c.,tamil kings are north indians,tamilnadu is formed by north indians and andhras
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2150 Feb 16, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Upper of the image are the telugu letters,here u can see the older telugu brahmi inscriptions from different kingdoms in different periods bhattiprolu inscriptions 400 b.c.,other kingdoms inscriptions at 300 b.c.,100 b.c.,300 a.d.,400 a.d.,500 a.d., all are similiar to each other,and at number 8 u can see tamil pallava script derived from older telugu at 700 a.d. Telugu brahmi inscriptions engraved by ashoka at 250 b.c copied from bhattiprolu and bhattiprolu script is older than ashoka inscriptions which is similiar to the ashoka telugu brahmi edicts . Http://upload.wikipedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd ...
Dear Mr.Naveen please give me a any proofs for Telugu is old language ..prove it.

Existing proofs that tamil is Oldest Indian Language

Mr.Naveen - first u do not Make flase information . Note : A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th B.C , but bhattiprolu 500 b.c script and Can u give me bhattiprolu 500 b.c script .how many place epigraphy found ?,

Above statement it self Tamil Brahmi 600 B.C Inscriptions found in (Palani )Tamil nadu)& bhattiprolu 500 b.c script.

In fact u writting all information wrong statement ........

1.First u study tamil histroy & People , Grammar .then u come & Speak . eg: Telugu Grammar (11th century A.D )vs Tolkappiyam ( Tamil Grammar )- 5th century BCE , Tamil is mother for dravidian language.

2.Please compare tamil (Sangam ) literature (5th century BC to 2nd century AD) and telugu literature(The earliest available literature is the Telugu Mahabharata, 1067 AD)
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3.Tamil Script 5th century BCE ( Tholkappayam - Grammar Book ), See u think we have 5th century BCE year before grammar book mean- our language evolution Minimum 15,000 year before.

4. U said bhattiprolu inscriptions 400 b.c , OK show me any literature , It is means your telugu people copy all literature from ( Tamil & Sanskrit )

I have give more Significant Tamil Brahmi findings :-

1.There have been claims that fragments of Tamil Brahmi epigraphy found in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka date as far back as the 5th or 6th century BCE.

2. Recent claims for earlier dates include fragments of pottery from the trading town of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka, which have been dated to the early 4th century BCE; and on pieces of pottery in Adichanallur, Tamil Nadu, which were associated with radiocarbon dates to the 6th century BCE. The claimed pre-Ashokan Bhattiprolu and Adichanallur inscriptions.

3.A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century has also been claimed, but as of its 2011 announcement, Iravatham Mahadevan, "a leading authority on the Tamil-Brahmi and Indus scripts," and Dr. Y. Subbarayalu, Head of the Department of Indology at the French Institute of Pondicherry, cautioned that it was difficult to reach a conclusion on the basis of one single scientific dating.

4.A broken storage jar with inscriptions in Tamil Brahmi script in Quseir-al-Qadim,(Leukos Limen) Egypt, 1st century BCE. Two earlier Tamil Brahmi inscription discoveries at the same site, 1st century CE. which means 'pot suspended in a rope net'.

5.Tamil-Brahmi inscription on pottery found in Phu Khao Thong, Thailand, 2nd century CE. Touchstone (uraikal) engraved in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script at Khuan Luk Pat, 3rd-4th century CE

6.Black and red ware potsherd with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions in Ucchapanai, Kandarodai, Jaffna, 3rd century BCE

7.Tamil Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Kodumanal, Chennimalai near Erode.

8.Tamil-Brahmi script dating back to the 3rd century BCE near Thenur, Madurai. Script is written in gold bar ..etc.
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2151 Feb 16, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Brahmi born from bhattiprolu inscriptions and ashoka named it as brahmi and introduced same brahmi to tamil,kannada people and different parts of india,the scripts derived from sanskrit or prakrit is written in devanagiri script such as hindi,nepali,punjabi,bhojpuri, etc... Tholkappiyam is copied grammer from vedic sanskrit betweem 100 b.c and 400 a.d as the script of tamil was developed quicker than others,early inscriptions of tamil brahmi introduced by ashoka and which too not a total developed tamil script from 250 b.c.
Mr. Naveen,- Devanagari Nagari are first attested from the 7th century CE.

Tell me one ...How all the vedas & purana written , u said the scripts derived from sanskrit or prakrit . Devanagari first attested 7th century CE . only,

Saskrit - No native script , How they written all vedas in saskrits (Devanagari ). May be All vedas & puranam in tamil Language , then all people ( Sanskrit & Pali ...etc .) Copy the Tamil Vedas(Sivapuranam ).

Awake !!!!!!!!!! Mr.NAveen.

Devanagari is part of the Brahmic family of scripts of India, Nepal, Tibet, and South-East Asia. It is a descendant of the Gupta script, along with Siddham and Sharada.Eastern variants of Gupta called Nagari are first attested from the 7th century CE; from c. 1200 CE these gradually replaced Siddham, which survived as a vehicle for Tantric Buddhism in East Asia, and Sharada, which remained in parallel use in Kashmir. An early version of Devanagari is visible in the Kutila inscription of Bareilly dated to Vikram Samvat 1049 (i.e. 992 CE), which demonstrates the emergence of the horizontal bar to group letters belonging to a word
Selvan

Ashburn, VA

#2152 Feb 16, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> tholkappiyam was copied from vedic grammer,tamils copied vedas and also created some fake myths,no history from tamils,tamil early inscriptions 250 b.c.,tamil kings are north indians,tamilnadu is formed by north indians and andhras
dont fight tamil & telugu both are oldest and surviving languages
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2153 Feb 16, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> tholkappiyam was copied from vedic grammer,tamils copied vedas and also created some fake myths,no history from tamils,tamil early inscriptions 250 b.c.,tamil kings are north indians,tamilnadu is formed by north indians and andhras
Naveen Kumar

Above statement itself , u do not know about Tamil kingdom & Culture , language . First u study Tamil Kings ( Pandiyan , Cera & Chozhan ) this kings are tamil . u Know As per history any north king not even touch Tamil King feet .
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2154 Feb 17, 2014
Vishnu wrote:
<quoted text> tamils are just tribals,tamil morons cant accept the facts
FYI ,

The REAL FACT :- India - Ancient Classical tamil music & Classical Dance .

Ancient tamil music & Classical Dance ( Bharathanattiyam) belong to Tamil People.

The tradition of Tamil music goes back to the earliest period of Tamil history. Many poems of the Sangam literature, the classical Tamil literature of the early common era, were set to music. There are various references to this ancient musical tradition found in the ancient Sangam books such as Ettuthokai and Pattupattu. The early narrative poem Cilappatikaram, belonging to the post-Sangam period also mentions various forms of music practiced by the Tamil people. Music was also utilised in the compositions of the Tamil Saiva saints such as Appar, Thirugnana Sambanthar and Manikkavasagar during the Hindu revival period between the sixth and the tenth centuries CE. The musical poet (sandakkavi) Arunagirinathar further embellished the Tamil musical tradition through his compositions of Tamil hymns known as Thiruppugazh.

Carnatic (Tamil )music :- Tamil Trinity of Muthu Thandavar (1560 - 1640 CE)

Carnatic music, which is the classical music form of Southern India, has a long history in Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu has produced a number of famous performers, as well as a closely related classical dance form Bharatha Natyam. Chennai hosts a large cultural event, the annual Madras Music Season, which includes performances by hundreds of artists.

There are 72 basic scales on the octave, and a rich variety of melodic motion. Both melodic and rhythmic structures are varied and compelling. This is one of the world's oldest and richest musical traditions. Songs have been composed by great artists and handed down through generations of disciples.

The composers belonging to the Tamil Trinity of Muthu Thandavar (1560 - 1640 CE), Arunachala Kavi (1712–1779) and Marimutthu Pillai (1717–1787) composed hundreds of devotional songs in Tamil and helped in the evolution of Carnatic music. Three saint composers of the 18th to 19th Century, Tyagaraja, Muthuswami Dikshitar and Shyama Shastri, have composed thousands of songs that remain favourites among musicians and audiences. Today, Tamil Nadu has hundreds of notable carnatic singers who spread this music all over the world. M. S. Subbulakshmi, a renowned carnatic singer, had the honour of singing a song in the UN Security Council.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2155 Feb 17, 2014
RAM wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI ,
The REAL FACT :- India - Ancient Classical tamil music & Classical Dance .
Ancient tamil music & Classical Dance ( Bharathanattiyam) belong to Tamil People.
The tradition of Tamil music goes back to the earliest period of Tamil history. Many poems of the Sangam literature, the classical Tamil literature of the early common era, were set to music. There are various references to this ancient musical tradition found in the ancient Sangam books such as Ettuthokai and Pattupattu. The early narrative poem Cilappatikaram, belonging to the post-Sangam period also mentions various forms of music practiced by the Tamil people. Music was also utilised in the compositions of the Tamil Saiva saints such as Appar, Thirugnana Sambanthar and Manikkavasagar during the Hindu revival period between the sixth and the tenth centuries CE. The musical poet (sandakkavi) Arunagirinathar further embellished the Tamil musical tradition through his compositions of Tamil hymns known as Thiruppugazh.
Carnatic (Tamil )music :- Tamil Trinity of Muthu Thandavar (1560 - 1640 CE)
Carnatic music, which is the classical music form of Southern India, has a long history in Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu has produced a number of famous performers, as well as a closely related classical dance form Bharatha Natyam. Chennai hosts a large cultural event, the annual Madras Music Season, which includes performances by hundreds of artists.
There are 72 basic scales on the octave, and a rich variety of melodic motion. Both melodic and rhythmic structures are varied and compelling. This is one of the world's oldest and richest musical traditions. Songs have been composed by great artists and handed down through generations of disciples.
The composers belonging to the Tamil Trinity of Muthu Thandavar (1560 - 1640 CE), Arunachala Kavi (1712–1779) and Marimutthu Pillai (1717–1787) composed hundreds of devotional songs in Tamil and helped in the evolution of Carnatic music. Three saint composers of the 18th to 19th Century, Tyagaraja, Muthuswami Dikshitar and Shyama Shastri, have composed thousands of songs that remain favourites among musicians and audiences. Today, Tamil Nadu has hundreds of notable carnatic singers who spread this music all over the world. M. S. Subbulakshmi, a renowned carnatic singer, had the honour of singing a song in the UN Security Council.
tyagaraja and shyama sastri are telugu brahmins,infact tallapaka annamacharya,bhadrachala sriramadasu,movva kshetrayya are greatest carnatic originators, composers than them
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2156 Feb 17, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> tyagaraja and shyama sastri are telugu brahmins,infact tallapaka annamacharya,bhadrachala sriramadasu,movva kshetrayya are greatest carnatic originators, composers than them
Fine ....

Who is Come First Tamil Trinity of Muthu Thandavar (1560 - 1640 CE) Arunachala Kavi (1712–1779) and Marimutthu Pillai (1717–1787) composed hundreds of devotional songs in Tamil and helped in the evolution of Carnatic music. Three saint composers of the 18th to 19th Century & Three saint composers of the 18th to 19th Century, Tyagaraja, and Shyama Shastri.

Classical languages of India

U know Which Language INDIA Given First Classical status.

In 2004, the Government of India declared that languages that met certain requirements could be accorded the status of a "Classical Language in India".

1. Languages thus far declared to be Classical are Tamil (in 2004),
2. Sanskrit (in 2005),
3. Telugu and Kannada (in 2008)
5. and Malayalam (in 2013).
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2157 Feb 17, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Tamil people says our kings built shiva temples,who built early cholas,pandyas or cheras? those temples builted by pallavas,nayaks and mid cholas(non tamils) there are more lord shiva temples in andhrapradesh and karnataka than tamilnadu.infact chera people and agasthiyar belong to malayalam land
Friend ,

Tamil Kings are Pandiyan , Cera & Chozhan ,

FYI,

Chera dynasty is one of the most ancient Tamil dynasties in India, ruling over an area corresponding to modern-day western Tamil Nadu and central Kerala. Together with the Cholas and the Pandyas, they formed the three principal warring Iron Age Tamil kingdoms of southern India in the early centuries of the Common Era.

By the early centuries of the Common Era, civil society and statehood under the Cheras was developed in present day western Tamil Nadu. The location of the Chera capital is generally assumed to be at modern Karur (identified with the Korura of Ptolemy). The Chera kingdom later extended to the plains of Kerala –through the Palghat gap – along the river Perar and occupied land between the river Perar and river Periyar, creating two harbor towns – Tondi (Tyndis) and Muciri (Muziris)– where the Roman trade settlements flourished.

Dravidian architecture was a style of architecture that emerged in the Southern part of the Indian subcontinent or South India. It consists primarily of pyramid shaped temples which are dependent on intricate carved stone in order to create a step design consisting of many statues of deities, warriors, kings, and dancers. Mentioned as one of three styles of temple building in the ancient book Vastu shastra. The majority of the existing buildings are located in the Southern Indian states of Tamilnadu, Karnataka, Kerala, and Andhra pradesh. Various kingdoms and empires such as the Cholas, Chera, Pandyas, Pallavas, Rashtrakutas, Chalukyas, Hoysalas, and Vijayanagara Empire amongst many others have made a substantial contribution to the evolution of Dravidian architecture through the ages. Dravidian styled architecture can also be found in parts of North India, Northeastern and central Sri Lanka, Maldives, and various parts of Southeast Asia. Angkor Wat in Cambodia and Prambanan in Indonesia were built based on early Chola Architecture.
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2158 Feb 17, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
These tamil fools always fights with the fake theories and false statements they cant accept the facts,tamilnadu is a joke,tamilnadu is formed with 42%of telugu origins,tamil kings are early cholas,pandyas and cheras, telugu kings are pallavas,mid and later cholas,madurai nayaks,tanjore nayaks,bodhi dharma is a telugu,kambar,sarvepalli radhakrishna,tyagaraja etc..are telugu people in tamilnadu these tamils are ignorant,no temple architectures were builted by tamil kings
FYI,

Tamil architectures-.

Rajendra Chola: In india only one Tamil king ruled entered South East Asia & Tamil Chola Empire built more then 20,000 Temple in India & South East Asia .

Rajendra Chola was the son of Rajaraja Chola I and considered one of the greatest rulers and military leaders of the Tamil Chola Empire. He succeeded his father in 1014 CE as the Chola emperor. During his reign, he extended the influences of the already vast Chola empire up to the banks of the river Ganges in the north and across the ocean. Rajendra’s territories extended coastal Burma, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Lakshadweep, Maldives, conquered the kings of Srivijaya (Sumatra, Java and Malay Peninsula in South East Asia) and Pegu islands with his fleet of ships. He defeated Mahipala, the Pala king of Bengal and Bihar, and to commemorate his victory he built a new capital called Gangaikonda Cholapuram. The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign. The Tamil Chola armies exacted tribute from Thailand and the Khmer kingdom of Cambodia. Like the predecessors of the Cholas, the Pallavas and the contemporaneous Pandiyans, the Cholas too under Raja Raja I the father of Rajendra and then Rajendra Chola I too undertook several expeditions to occupy territories outside Indian shores. Of these kings, it was Rajendra who made extensive overseas conquests of territories like the Andamans, Lakshadweepa, wide areas of Indo China (Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, Laos, Indonesia and Modern Vietnam) and indeed, Burma . In fact, Rajendra Chola I was the first Indian king to take his armies overseas and make conquests of these territories, even though there is epigraphical evidence of Pallava presence in these very areas, but it is not known that Burma and Indo-China were subordinate to them, as they were under Rajendra and his successors up to Kulothunga Chola I.

After his successful campaign to Ganges he got the title Gangaikonda Chola (The Chola who took the Ganges), he also built a Shiva temple at his new capital Gangaikonda Cholapuram, similar in design to the Tanjore Brihadisvara temple built by his father Rajaraja Chola and expanded the Pathirakali Amman Temple and Koneswaram temples of Trincomalee. Rajendra Chola created at his capital a vast artificial lake, sixteen miles long and three miles wide which to this day remains one of the largest man-made lakes in India. He inherited from his father the famous title Mummudi Cholan (The Chola with three crown), Mummudi title was used by Tamil kings who ruled the three kingdoms of Chola, Pandya and Chera. He founded a new capital called Gangaikonda Cholapuram.

Do not Say next time no temple architectures were builted by tamil kings.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2159 Feb 17, 2014
RAM wrote:
<quoted text>
Fine ....
Who is Come First Tamil Trinity of Muthu Thandavar (1560 - 1640 CE) Arunachala Kavi (1712–1779) and Marimutthu Pillai (1717–1787) composed hundreds of devotional songs in Tamil and helped in the evolution of Carnatic music. Three saint composers of the 18th to 19th Century & Three saint composers of the 18th to 19th Century, Tyagaraja, and Shyama Shastri.
Classical languages of India
U know Which Language INDIA Given First Classical status.
In 2004, the Government of India declared that languages that met certain requirements could be accorded the status of a "Classical Language in India".
1. Languages thus far declared to be Classical are Tamil (in 2004),
2. Sanskrit (in 2005),
3. Telugu and Kannada (in 2008)
5. and Malayalam (in 2013).
telugu trinity is older than tamil and telugus r founders of carnatic music
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2160 Feb 17, 2014
Ram, Telugu trinity is older and intelligent than tamil. Thallapaka annamacharya(1408-1503)age-94, (saint,poet,carnatic composer,writer,)founder of cainatic music composed 36000 devotional sankeerthanas which are available and popular till now. Movva kshetrayya(1600-1680)poet and carnatic composer,composed more than 4000 devotional songs. Kancherla gopanna or bhadrachala sriramadasu(1620-1680)poet and carnatic composer,composed 100's of great sankeerthanas and wrote 100's of poems also dhasharathi shathakam,another great carnatic comporers from telugu. Tyagaraja or tyagabrahman(1767-1847)father of cainatic. Syama shastri(1762-1827)another great composer. And about clasical languages. Tamil has clasical status for only 1 year at 2004 bcoz its a half language. Sanskrit at 2005 for 1 year bcoz its a dead language. Telugu and kannada from(2008-2013)for 5 years bcoz telugu is the oldest and sweetest surviving language of india mind it.
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#2161 Feb 17, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Ram, Telugu trinity is older and intelligent than tamil. Thallapaka annamacharya(1408-1503)age-94, (saint,poet,carnatic composer,writer,)founder of cainatic music composed 36000 devotional sankeerthanas which are available and popular till now. Movva kshetrayya(1600-1680)poet and carnatic composer,composed more than 4000 devotional songs. Kancherla gopanna or bhadrachala sriramadasu(1620-1680)poet and carnatic composer,composed 100's of great sankeerthanas and wrote 100's of poems also dhasharathi shathakam,another great carnatic comporers from telugu. Tyagaraja or tyagabrahman(1767-1847)father of cainatic. Syama shastri(1762-1827)another great composer. And about clasical languages. Tamil has clasical status for only 1 year at 2004 bcoz its a half language. Sanskrit at 2005 for 1 year bcoz its a dead language. Telugu and kannada from(2008-2013)for 5 years bcoz telugu is the oldest and sweetest surviving language of india mind it.
are you really a crack. classical status for one year. what do you mean by that. fool go toschool first. what do you think about declaration of classical status. tamil was declared as a classical language in 2004. thats it. and here after please speak about bc. pleaase give evidence of telugu literature before 300bc. everyone is laughing at you.
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#2162 Feb 17, 2014
tholkapiyam's introductry poem is the proof of tamil before hinduism. i will explain.
munthu nool kandu murapadi enni pulam thoguthone.. pulam means lands used by human. it says you have learned ancent literatures about lands(pulam) and classified them accordingly.

pokku aru panuval nilam tharu thiruvin... pokku aru means unexplored land. panuval nilam means cotton field(paruthi kadu) tharu thiruvin means it gave us the god.

pandian avaiyathu... avaiyathu means the world that teaches righteosness. pandian avaiyathu means tamil sangam.

aram karai naavin naanmarai mutrya... by the gods(thiruvin) tongue the four chapters (pirazhnavam of mayan) is sung and concluded.

athankottu aasaarku.. kottu means follower it says you are the followe of the god who is the teacher of naanmarai(four chapter of pirazhnavam)

aril thabath terinthu... aril means next. it says next to the god you are th wise man.

mayanka marabin... this line comes also in silapathikaaram. it says the tradition preserved by mayan.

ezhuthu murai kaatti.. you wrote the grammer.

malku neer varaipin... mlku neer means the water that fills and rises. varaipin means territory. it says as the water fills and raises beyond te territory.

aintiram niraintha tholkapiyan... you are filled with aintiram(written by mayan).
Linduism

New Delhi, India

#2163 Feb 17, 2014
Sri Hari Narayan Narayana Narayan!
Teri choot Maarayan Marayan Marayan!!
aahahaha, Mujhe to teri sexy Laxmi devi ke mulayam honth choosey haaaaaaaaaaa!
aur uski mulaayam choot mein lund daal ke ahahaaha mutthh nikal gayi.
Teri Laxmi devi to bahut ameer hain bhadwe
itna paisa lutaaati hain mere pe
Maine usey Vishnu Thugwaan ke saamne chodaaaahhhh
Aur us sey fir Brahmin Paida huwe

Oye Hindu!!! Tujhe pata hain ki Brahmin sir ke peechey choti kyon rakhtey hain?? Kyonki maine teri laxmi ko chodha aur Brahmano ki choti mere SPERM ka prateek hain. kyonki choti Sperm cell jaisi dikhti hain!!!

The Choti, the small tuft of hair behind every bald brahmin head looks like a sperm cell. True Hindu Rapism.
RAM

Dubai, UAE

#2166 Feb 17, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Ram, Telugu trinity is older and intelligent than tamil. Thallapaka annamacharya(1408-1503)age-94, (saint,poet,carnatic composer,writer,)founder of cainatic music composed 36000 devotional sankeerthanas which are available and popular till now. Movva kshetrayya(1600-1680)poet and carnatic composer,composed more than 4000 devotional songs. Kancherla gopanna or bhadrachala sriramadasu(1620-1680)poet and carnatic composer,composed 100's of great sankeerthanas and wrote 100's of poems also dhasharathi shathakam,another great carnatic comporers from telugu. Tyagaraja or tyagabrahman(1767-1847)father of cainatic. Syama shastri(1762-1827)another great composer. And about clasical languages. Tamil has clasical status for only 1 year at 2004 bcoz its a half language. Sanskrit at 2005 for 1 year bcoz its a dead language. Telugu and kannada from(2008-2013)for 5 years bcoz telugu is the oldest and sweetest surviving language of india mind it.
Naveen , Change your satament .Old Tamil music base of all music.

Pre-Trinity Composers (7th to 9th century)

FYI,

1.Nayanmars - 7th to 9th century- Tamil -'pre carnatic ancient sangam music pannicai]

2.Azhwars -7th to 9th century- Tamil 'pre carnatic ancient sangam music[pannicai]'

3.Akka Mahadevi -12th century -Kannada 'carnatic music[transformation of sangam music[pannicai] into present carnatic music started at this time Sanskrit names were adopted for Tamil panns'

4.Purandara Dasa 1484 - 1564 -Kannada, Purandara Vittala Set the Carnatic music in its present form; composed basic exercises for practice like sarali and janta varisai

5.Kanaka Dasa 1509 - 1609 Kannada 1,000 Adi Keshava

6.Annamacharya 1408 - 1503 Telugu, Sanskrit 36,000 Venkatachala

7.Sripadaraya 1404 - 1502 Kannada Ranga Vittala

8.Arunachala Kavi 1711 - 1788 Tamil 320

9.Arunagirinathar 1480- Tamil 760 Composed Tiruppugazh

10.Basavanna 12th century Kannada Kudala Sangama Deva Composed Vachanagalu

11.Jayadeva 12th century Sanskrit 50 Composed Geetha Govindam

12.Bhadraachala Raama daasu 1620 - 1688 Telugu 500

13.Kshetragna 1600 - 1680 Telugu 100 Muvvagopala

14.Marimutthu Pillai 1717 - 1787 Tamil 42

15.Muthu Thandavar 1525 - 1625 Tamil 165

16.Narayana Teertha 1650 - 1745 Telugu, Sanskrit 200 Vara Naaraayana Teertha Composed Krishna leelaa Tarangini

17.Paidala Gurumurti Sastri 17th century Telugu

18.Papanasa Mudaliar 1650 - 1725 Tamil etc...

Tamil Music is mother of All Music , All people follow the same tradition but name change.

Do u know ,

Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world.It has been described as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past and having "one of the richest literatures in the world".Tamil literature has existed for over 2500 years. The earliest epigraphic records found on rock edicts and hero stones date from around the 6th century BC. The earliest period of Tamil literature, Sangam literature, is dated from ca. 500 BC – AD 300. The two earliest manuscripts from India to be acknowledged and registered by UNESCO Memory of the World register in 1997 and 2005 were in Tamil. More than 55% of the epigraphical inscriptions (about 55,000) found by the Archaeological Survey of India are in the Tamil language. According to a 2001 .

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