Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2070 Feb 12, 2014
There was no script in tamilnadu before ashoka inscriptions at 250 b.c. Temples in tamilnadu were builted later 7th century. Pallavas(Andhras,telugus)are founders of south indian temple architectures or dravidian architectures). Medieval cholas are telugus,raja raja is a telugu chola,rajendra,uttam,aditya,pa rantaka etc...are telugu cholas from(andhra kingdom). Early cholas ,pandya,chera,are only three original tamil kingdoms remaining kingdoms not belongs to tn. Temples in tamilnadu were builted by telugu kings.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2071 Feb 12, 2014
Madurai Meenakshi amman temple was also not builted by pandyans,u tamils says its a 2500 year olden temple,before 2500 years there was no rockcut architectures existed in india,there is no correct date for madurai temple construction and ur tamil govt hiden the facts and claims it was builted by tamilorigins(pandyas) but it was not builted by pandyas,pallavas are founders of dravidian architectures in 6th century,madurai temple is in architectural styles of kakatiya,madurai nayaks and keladi nayaks,madurai 1000 pillar temple architecture is copied from 1000 pillar temple (10 c.e.) of kakatiyan kingdom,and sculptures on pillars with horse riding wariors is similiar to keladi and kakatiya temples. Nayaks are the origins of ap,nayak caste originated in andhrapradesh,nayaks are the warriors and army of kakatiyan kingdom,after the fall of kakatiyan empire kakatiyas migrated to vijayanagara empire and some migrated to karnataka,nearly 12 clans nayak kingdoms in tamilnadu and karnataka are origin of telugus,vijayanagara temple architectures builted after the joining of nayak wariors in vijayanagara kingdom,not only nayaks,reddiars,mudaliyar,etc. ..are telugu origins in tamilnadu
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2072 Feb 12, 2014
These tamils also wrote favour to them in wikipedia that tyagaraja,bodhi dharma,kambar,sarvepalliradhak rishna,mid cholas,pallavas,etc...as tamils,but they are andhras and telugus
jacob tirunelveli

Chennai, India

#2073 Feb 12, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Madurai Meenakshi amman temple was also not builted by pandyans,u tamils says its a 2500 year olden temple,before 2500 years there was no rockcut architectures existed in india,there is no correct date for madurai temple construction and ur tamil govt hiden the facts and claims it was builted by tamilorigins(pandyas) but it was not builted by pandyas,pallavas are founders of dravidian architectures in 6th century,madurai temple is in architectural styles of kakatiya,madurai nayaks and keladi nayaks,madurai 1000 pillar temple architecture is copied from 1000 pillar temple (10 c.e.) of kakatiyan kingdom,and sculptures on pillars with horse riding wariors is similiar to keladi and kakatiya temples. Nayaks are the origins of ap,nayak caste originated in andhrapradesh,nayaks are the warriors and army of kakatiyan kingdom,after the fall of kakatiyan empire kakatiyas migrated to vijayanagara empire and some migrated to karnataka,nearly 12 clans nayak kingdoms in tamilnadu and karnataka are origin of telugus,vijayanagara temple architectures builted after the joining of nayak wariors in vijayanagara kingdom,not only nayaks,reddiars,mudaliyar,etc. ..are telugu origins in tamilnadu
please visit madurai meenakshi amman temple website you will get the complete details about that temple. we dont want your own guesses. see nellaiappar temple website also. both temples were renovated after 700 ad. but they were built before bc. nellaiappar temple is mentioned in the ramayana itself what do you say. rama came to thamirabarani river and prayed there.
And also see god dakshinamurthy ( datsinaamoorthy) the southern siva. he only taught the vedas to the north indian sages. learn well god dakshinamurthy is mayan.
jacob tirunelveli

Chennai, India

#2074 Feb 12, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
There was no script in tamilnadu before ashoka inscriptions at 250 b.c. Temples in tamilnadu were builted later 7th century. Pallavas(Andhras,telugus)are founders of south indian temple architectures or dravidian architectures). Medieval cholas are telugus,raja raja is a telugu chola,rajendra,uttam,aditya,pa rantaka etc...are telugu cholas from(andhra kingdom). Early cholas ,pandya,chera,are only three original tamil kingdoms remaining kingdoms not belongs to tn. Temples in tamilnadu were builted by telugu kings.
in your village today only you built a school means it does not mean the whole world is illiterate till today. tamils were 10000 years advanced than rest of the world
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2075 Feb 12, 2014
Tamil claims and theories are all selfish and foolish,they foolishly claims about the times belonging to ice ages of 30,50,100000 and 200000 years
Hindu Bindu

New Delhi, India

#2076 Feb 12, 2014
HINDUISM is the oldest Language of India Ever. The Word 'Hindu' is all over the Vedas, Upanishads, Smritis, Puranas (can't you people read for yourself?). It has been proven by our beloved Congress National Party.
The word "India" is also mentioned in all of the Bharatiya/Jambudveepa/Hindusta ni/Sone ki chidiya Granths and scriptures.... All Major Granths Like Bhagavata Purana, Vishnu Puran, Rig Ved, Sam Ved etc. start with "Aum Hindu" and end with "India". In between some of these scriptures are vague mentions/indications regarding "Sanatan Dharam", "Aad -Dharam", "Bharam", "Jambudweep", "Sone Ki Chidiya" etc.

The Greatest Sage of India is different according to different people and communities. Some say the greatest sage is VALMIKI, others say VISHWAMITRA, some say VASHISHTHA, etc. without knowing that they were great robbers looters of their time. They later became sages. But the greatest sage of all time in India is LORD BRAHMA who raped his own daughter Bhagwati Saraswati and married her. In this process, the Veena was used as a Divine dildo and not a musical instrument as a common human mind might think.

The Greatest Scripture ever Survived is the "Hindu Charita" written by Goddess Saraswati herself which is as follows:

Mai Hindu Mai Maader Bindu |
Meri Hijadi Qaum Niraali ||
Kehtey Mujhko Sab Hain Hindu |
Dete Mujhko Sab Hain Gaali ||
Mai Naa Sudhri Kabhi Bhi Saali |
Mai To Hoon Ek Gandi Naali ||

I guess a few short lines are only there as above in Pure Hinduism language. Some Hindi slangs are also there...
Will have to rechek the above phrase from "Hindu Charita". If needed, will contact Bhagwaan Hindu Museum.

Jai Hindu Museum!!!
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#2077 Feb 12, 2014
Hindu Bindu wrote:
HINDUISM is the oldest Language of India Ever. The Word 'Hindu' is all over the Vedas, Upanishads, Smritis, Puranas (can't you people read for yourself?). It has been proven by our beloved Congress National Party.
The word "India" is also mentioned in all of the Bharatiya/Jambudveepa/Hindusta ni/Sone ki chidiya Granths and scriptures.... All Major Granths Like Bhagavata Purana, Vishnu Puran, Rig Ved, Sam Ved etc. start with "Aum Hindu" and end with "India". In between some of these scriptures are vague mentions/indications regarding "Sanatan Dharam", "Aad -Dharam", "Bharam", "Jambudweep", "Sone Ki Chidiya" etc.
The Greatest Sage of India is different according to different people and communities. Some say the greatest sage is VALMIKI, others say VISHWAMITRA, some say VASHISHTHA, etc. without knowing that they were great robbers looters of their time. They later became sages. But the greatest sage of all time in India is LORD BRAHMA who raped his own daughter Bhagwati Saraswati and married her. In this process, the Veena was used as a Divine dildo and not a musical instrument as a common human mind might think.
The Greatest Scripture ever Survived is the "Hindu Charita" written by Goddess Saraswati herself which is as follows:
Mai Hindu Mai Maader Bindu |
Meri Hijadi Qaum Niraali ||
Kehtey Mujhko Sab Hain Hindu |
Dete Mujhko Sab Hain Gaali ||
Mai Naa Sudhri Kabhi Bhi Saali |
Mai To Hoon Ek Gandi Naali ||
I guess a few short lines are only there as above in Pure Hinduism language. Some Hindi slangs are also there...
Will have to rechek the above phrase from "Hindu Charita". If needed, will contact Bhagwaan Hindu Museum.
Jai Hindu Museum!!!
what are you coming to say??????????
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#2078 Feb 12, 2014
those who support sanskrit please give me comments about
1.mayamatham written by mayan
2.surya siddhanta written by mayan
3.sthapathya veda of rig veda mentioning mayan.
4.aryabhatta having his full education in kodunkallur in chera dynasty about mathematics in 499 ad.
5.dakshinamurthy the southern god teaching vedas to the sages in north.
please do some homework before commenting.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2079 Feb 12, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> totally wrong information
Prove it .

Yet to address the questions and evidences systematically.Give timelines with evidences of South Indian History before 700 B.C.E - 1000 B.C.E
Try to be constructive .Wake up , it is better late than never. If the cat closes its eyes that it does not mean the world is dark.
Keep dreaming that Kambar wrote Ramayana in Telugu. And Telugu is one of South Indian languages and nowhere we find any proof as older than other south languages.
Keep hunting WIKI and Distorted History books.
Have a look on latest Anthropology findings and Gene mapping.
Try to know about the forbidden word with R and conspiracy theory floating around and improve your perception continuously.
You have gathered too much of dust and try to get rid
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2080 Feb 12, 2014
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
<quoted text>
what are you coming to say??????????
Can you understand that he is a fundamentalist wrongly brought up by either one came with sword and the other to harvest souls.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2081 Feb 12, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Tamil claims and theories are all selfish and foolish,they foolishly claims about the times belonging to ice ages of 30,50,100000 and 200000 years
Ya ,keep proving Darwinian theory which west is struggling to defend .
Just now I was studying the dissection of Sozha period by the renowned writer Jayakanthan including the Sangam period.His constructive arguments on domination of Brahmins and their counter Vellalas which continued for thousands of years extending to British era., as well as Telugu Brahmins is superb.
Give one or more Telugu writer name who has done any exhaustive research in history of south.
Hope you do not claim as Telugu scholar.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2082 Feb 13, 2014
Naveen

For your research, try to find out who said the following

1^Sumerian has been systematically neglected in the study of ancient languages and perhaps because very early it was recognized that it does not belong to the Semitic or the Indo-Aryan family of language. A serious study of the original texts indicate that it is an an Archaic form of Tamil and Rigkrit, the language of Rig Veda is a later variant of this SumeroTamil.^
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#2083 Feb 13, 2014
Naveen
I am giving below more hints

^1. Yes there is a large range of shared vocabulary between Tamil and Sanskrit , larger than we think but this is NOT due lexical borrowing through cohabitation and so forth. It is best understood as different branches of the SAME primitive language and here Sumerotamil. Sanskrit is an early evolute from Archaic Tamil just like other Dravidian languages like Telugu and so forth.

2. Words like pater, pateer etc., though obsolete in Classical Tamil but may be terms in Archaic Tamil. In Sumerian we have ab-ba ( father) am-ma, um-ma ( mother) and related terms : dumu ( offspring) mus-san ( maccaan,: son in law etc.) tab ( tambi, tambu: brother, friend), kuli ( friend, Ta. kulam, ikuli) etc.. And it has also roots like 'bi'( to give , Ta. pii, pey), mu ( self, Ta. moo) and tar ( to give, Ta. taru, taa). Thus we can have bi-tar ( > pitar): he who gives rise to birth? ; mu-tar( matar) ; one who delivers a self, a child etc.

3. The word akam also occurs in Sumerian as well as classical Tamil and which is retained in Ta. as the vocative 'ka, kam" etc. In Su. akam means the inside and later derivatively it has come to be used in the sense of 'self', that which is inside the body. The term for 'being" also occurs in Su. as 'as, es" separately as well as verbal suffixes.

4. The wrods 'sul, sur" are well attested in Su. as in "utu sul" radiant sun etc.( sul> sun, Eg. sun?) So also 'mul' and which exists now in Ta. as min, mul, muul-an etc and which might have given rise to Eg. moon etc.

Studies taken against the background of Sumerian may in fact throw further light on the genesis of Sanskrit as well as Greek and Latin. Studies on Rig Veda and and so forth indicate that if Sumerian is Archaic Tamil and hence Dravidian so is also Sanskrit.^????????

Can you give a date to Sumerian civilization and pre vedic periods when classical Sanskrit was not born yet.
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#2084 Feb 13, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
These tamils also wrote favour to them in wikipedia that tyagaraja,bodhi dharma,kambar,sarvepalliradhak rishna,mid cholas,pallavas,etc...as tamils,but they are andhras and telugus
Telugu contains half sanskrit (Central Asia - Literally Turks Language) and half Tamil and partially Kannada. And the entire script is borrowed from Kannada its Nannaya Tikkanna who borrowed the script from kannada and gave the New structure to Telugu script. How come Telugu language will become Old than Tamil and Kannada, Only you are claiming and the all Kings are telugu. I had explored on this, I nowhere found the evidence that they are telugu origin. Go and Wiki on Bodhi Dharuman he is a Second son of Tamil Pallava king, Probably you would have mistaken by seeing 7th sense movie dubbed from Tamil to telugu. Telugu has its root from Tamil. Earlier there was no lang called Telugu it was chaste tamil. After sanskritising it became as telugu. Battiprolu inscription is in prakrit not in telugu. Prakrit and pali are totally different from telugu. Even it is not Telugu it is Telungu(The name was from tamil).
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2085 Feb 13, 2014
Vinod,Telugu has inscriptions and scripts belonging to every kingdom,u can see similiar inscriptions/script from the kingdoms of shatavahanas,bhattiprolu,gupta ,ashoka,ishvakus,salankayana,a nandaghotrika,vishnukundina,va kataka,etc..... In different periods,but the script was developed slowly,the ancient telugu poets,sages refer sanskrit script and telugu script to write their literature even nannaya bhattaraka,thikkana somayaji,bammera pothanna,valmiki also used sanskrit script to write their literatures like stotras,mantras,shlokas,poems, etc... Telugu language was older than tamil and kannada,kannada and tamil brahmi script was originated from bhattiprolu script,but tamil&kannada scripts was developed fastly,ashoka introduced brahmi script to tamil and kannada from bhattiprolu,early inscriptions in tamil cave inscriptions at 250 b.c, early kannada inscriptions tagarthi 350 a.d,early telugu inscriptions is bhattiprolu 400 b.c.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2086 Feb 13, 2014
Vinod,pallavas r origin of ap from palnadu in guntur dist,bodhi dharma is 2nd son of sinha vishnu not 3rd son,u tamils cant pronounce his name properly and claiming him as tamilian fools,bodhi dharma is the name origin from (telugu/sanskrit)not tamil and his name is nor bodhi dhaaruman,pallavas mother tongue is telugu,and their oficial language was sanskrit,and tamil in wiki bcoz they ruled tamil area,and why pallava language was sanskrit in wiki?and why sanskrit is not in wiki of pandyas and early cholas kingdoms and those r older kingdoms than pallavas,vinod did u see pali script,pali and prakrit are 0%similiar in script,prakrit is similiar to sanskrit bcoz prakrit was derived from sanskrit,both prakrit and sanskrit was originated from vedic sanskrit,and onemore thing sanskrit has out standing literature such as vedas before 1700 b.c.,prakrit also has verywell developed literatures at 400 b.c.and prakrit is in devanagiri script not bhattiprolu. Ashoka also introduced brahmi script to different parts of india and outside of india
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2087 Feb 13, 2014
Vinod,the director of 7th sense cinema murugadoss also accepted bodhi dharma is a telugu in a tv interview
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2088 Feb 13, 2014
I cant understand why these tamil fools proud about their state,even tamilnadu was formed with 42%of telugu origins,tamilnadu was ruled by telugu kings,pallavas,medieval cholas,nayaks,bodhi dharma,kambar,sarvepalli radhakrishna,tyagaraja,and many telugu comunities in tn,telugu politicians,etc.....are telugus in tn,and in cinema also they feel proud about rajanikanth,prabhudeva,arjun,p rakash raj they are karnataka people,tamil people are ignorant, they only said tholkappiyam which is copied from vedas,if tamils are genius like telugus,any body tell about great people names and their works from tn, i gave a list of great telugus in tn and ap,can u......from ignorant tn dont say about the fake stories of 50000 or 50 lakhs years
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#2089 Feb 13, 2014
Tamil people says our kings built shiva temples,who built early cholas,pandyas or cheras? those temples builted by pallavas,nayaks and mid cholas(non tamils) there are more lord shiva temples in andhrapradesh and karnataka than tamilnadu.infact chera people and agasthiyar belong to malayalam land

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