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Jacob,dont make false statements. Telugu is older than all south indian languages and mother of all south indian languages and what do u know about prakrit language,already the prakrit was highly developed in 4th century b.c.e. It has outstanding scriptures and literature at 4th century b.c.e. Prakrit words are similiar to sanskrit and prakrit is in devanagiri script. Telugu is mother of brahmi script,all south indian languages are derived from brahmi script, early brahmi inscriptions was found in bhattiprolu at 400
b.c.and ashoka modified it as tamill brahmi at 250 b.c.e. Oldest Kannada inscriptions at 350 a.d in tagarthi, malayalam inscriptions at 830 c.e. In vajhapally.
FYI,

Mr.Naveen - first u do not spread flase information . Prakrit (Iran )& Sanskrit not a indian language ( Indo-Euro Language )( Ashoka Brahmi Script in the 3rd century BCE but A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century )

It appears that no use of any script to write an Indo-Aryan languages occurred before the reign of Emperor Ashoka in the 3rd century BCE, This might be explained by the cultural importance at the time (and indeed to some extent today) of oral literature for history and Hindu scripture.

Significant Tamil Brahmi findings :-

There have been claims that fragments of Brāhmī epigraphy found in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka date as far back as the 5th or 6th century BCE. Recent claims for earlier dates include fragments of pottery from the trading town of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka, which have been dated to the early 4th century BCE; and on pieces of pottery in Adichanallur, Tamil Nadu, which were associated with radiocarbon dates to the 6th century BCE. The claimed pre-Ashokan Bhattiprolu and Adichanallur inscriptions have been widely reported in the press, but do not appear to have been academically published so far. Saloman recognized the potential significance of the Anuradhapura inscriptions with respect to dating the origin of Brahmi but was cautious in accepting the early dates. Coningham et al., in their thorough analysis of the Anuradhapura inscriptions, found that the language was Prakrit rather than Dravidian, and they were unwilling to draw any conclusions about the affinities of the script beyond its being Brahmi; no claim was made that it is Tamil Brahmi. The historical sequence of the specimens was interpreted to indicate an evolution in the level of stylistic refinement over several centuries, and they concluded that the Brahmi script may have arisen out of "mercantile involvement" and that the growth of trade networks in Sri Lanka was correlated with its first appearance in the area.

A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century has also been claimed, but as of its 2011 announcement, Iravatham Mahadevan, "a leading authority on the Tamil-Brahmi and Indus scripts," and Dr. Y. Subbarayalu, Head of the Department of Indology at the French Institute of Pondicherry, cautioned that it was difficult to reach a conclusion on the basis of one single scientific dating.

1.A broken storage jar with inscriptions in Tamil Brahmi script in Quseir-al-Qadim,(Leukos Limen) Egypt, 1st century BCE. Two earlier Tamil Brahmi inscription discoveries at the same site, 1st century CE. The inscriped text is "பா னை ஒற&#30 07;(paanai oRi) which means 'pot suspended in a rope net'.
2.Tamil-Brahmi inscription on pottery found in Phu Khao Thong, Thailand, 2nd century CE. Touchstone (uraikal) engraved in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script at Khuan Luk Pat, 3rd-4th century CE
3.Black and red ware potsherd with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions in Ucchapanai, Kandarodai, Jaffna, 3rd century BCE
4.Tamil Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Kodumanal, Chennimalai near Erode
5.Tamil-Brahmi script dating back to the 3rd century BCE near Thenur, Madurai. Script is written in gold bar ..etc.
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Ram, why are u talking about 9000 b.c. Number of cities sunked in water across the world,another 2 cities also sunked in water in north india,a city is 12000 year old another city is 32000 year old,ruins,skeletons etc.. also found in many sunken cities across the world ,even nobody knows about their civilizations,life,language etc.... This era generation religions and languages in the world are started to born from just this common era to 1000 b.c.e.,dont talk foolishly
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RAM wrote:
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FYI,
Mr.Naveen - first u do not spread flase information . Prakrit (Iran )& Sanskrit not a indian language ( Indo-Euro Language )( Ashoka Brahmi Script in the 3rd century BCE but A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century )
It appears that no use of any script to write an Indo-Aryan languages occurred before the reign of Emperor Ashoka in the 3rd century BCE, This might be explained by the cultural importance at the time (and indeed to some extent today) of oral literature for history and Hindu scripture.
Significant Tamil Brahmi findings :-
There have been claims that fragments of Br&#257;hm&#299; epigraphy found in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka date as far back as the 5th or 6th century BCE. Recent claims for earlier dates include fragments of pottery from the trading town of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka, which have been dated to the early 4th century BCE; and on pieces of pottery in Adichanallur, Tamil Nadu, which were associated with radiocarbon dates to the 6th century BCE. The claimed pre-Ashokan Bhattiprolu and Adichanallur inscriptions have been widely reported in the press, but do not appear to have been academically published so far. Saloman recognized the potential significance of the Anuradhapura inscriptions with respect to dating the origin of Brahmi but was cautious in accepting the early dates. Coningham et al., in their thorough analysis of the Anuradhapura inscriptions, found that the language was Prakrit rather than Dravidian, and they were unwilling to draw any conclusions about the affinities of the script beyond its being Brahmi; no claim was made that it is Tamil Brahmi. The historical sequence of the specimens was interpreted to indicate an evolution in the level of stylistic refinement over several centuries, and they concluded that the Brahmi script may have arisen out of "mercantile involvement" and that the growth of trade networks in Sri Lanka was correlated with its first appearance in the area.
A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century has also been claimed, but as of its 2011 announcement, Iravatham Mahadevan, "a leading authority on the Tamil-Brahmi and Indus scripts," and Dr. Y. Subbarayalu, Head of the Department of Indology at the French Institute of Pondicherry, cautioned that it was difficult to reach a conclusion on the basis of one single scientific dating.
1.A broken storage jar with inscriptions in Tamil Brahmi script in Quseir-al-Qadim,(Leukos Limen) Egypt, 1st century BCE. Two earlier Tamil Brahmi inscription discoveries at the same site, 1st century CE. The inscriped text is "&#2986;&#3006; &#2985;&#3016; &#2962;&#2993;&#30 07;(paanai oRi) which means 'pot suspended in a rope net'.
2.Tamil-Brahmi inscription on pottery found in Phu Khao Thong, Thailand, 2nd century CE. Touchstone (uraikal) engraved in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script at Khuan Luk Pat, 3rd-4th century CE
3.Black and red ware potsherd with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions in Ucchapanai, Kandarodai, Jaffna, 3rd century BCE
4.Tamil Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Kodumanal, Chennimalai near Erode
5.Tamil-Brahmi script dating back to the 3rd century BCE near Thenur, Madurai. Script is written in gold bar ..etc.
tamil would be never older than telugu but was developed quicker than telugu,tamil has its roots from bhattiprolu script,sanskrit and prakrit will never be the indo european languages,the european invasion theory is a fake
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<quoted text> telugu politicians are contributed more for tamilnadu economy,they are powerful leaders in tamilnadu,if u dont know facts shut up
dont say telugu politicians they are dravidian looters...
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The issue is not with which language is oldest! But, which one is evergreen...? Tamizh is the only classical language in widespread use in the world today and the only Indian language which is given an official-status in countries (3) outside India!

May be Sanskrit is older than Tamizh. But, you know one thing, Only 30% of Tamizh literature was able to found. Remaining major literary works, which dates millenniums old, are only existing as references in the retrieved literature. Whatever, Tamizh still exists and evolves with all its uniqueness and beauty.
It is well known that Dravidians are the first occupants/native to India. Also, its is proven that Tamizh uses more than 80% of Dravidian script & usage. Then, we need to calculate by ourselves how much old Tamizh is.

What about Sanskrit? Ofcourse it has a character that found suitable for creating many religious poems and sacred texts. But the same sophistication it has that led to the creation of divine texts and its exclusiveness to a particular set of community (brahmins) led to its ultimate demise in propagation and of practical use !!

It doesn't mean that Tamizh didn't create any religious literary contribution. Apart from great epics & transcendental works of Tamizh, there are scores of divine works in Tamizh. For your information, the age in India called 'Bhakthi-Age' originated in Tamil-Nadu and the birth of Shaivas & Vaishnavas were from there. Also, the foremost temple for Shaivas is Chidambaram Natarajar temple and for Vaishnavas it is Srirangam (the world's largest functioning Temple).
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Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> tamil would be never older than telugu but was developed quicker than telugu,tamil has its roots from bhattiprolu script,sanskrit and prakrit will never be the indo european languages,the european invasion theory is a fake
Mr.Naveen - i think u know only bhattiprolu script sanskrit and prakrit , please give me a any archaeological evidence. Harappan civilization belong to dravidians( Tamil ) archaeological evidence & Poompugar (12,000 BC ).Archaeological Survey of India discoverie in 2004 at Poompugar . U do not have any proof .ancient times all over india tamil as a spoken language & Indian Native People dravidians( Tamil (Dravida -Dramila-Tamizha or Tamil)..

Tapic is Which is the Oldest Indian Language? Sanskrit Vs Tamil , i advice you first sduty indian histroy ,

please give me the answers

1. Still am not get from u Tamil ( Samgam ) literature Vs Telugu literature
2. Tamil Grammar -tolkappiyam 5000 BC Vs Sanskrit Grammar CE 400(or ) Telugu Grammar 1000 years old .
3. World people accept tamil as classical language , But not telugu ?
4. Archaeological Survey of Ind discoverie 66 % belong to dravidians( Tamil )

Finaly our education system in india not teach all indian histroy , india hide real indian histroy , i do not know ?. Mr.Naveen - AP first u study one or two years Samgam literature & Tamil (IND ) Histroy . then u realize which one turth.
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Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> tamil would be never older than telugu but was developed quicker than telugu,tamil has its roots from bhattiprolu script,sanskrit and prakrit will never be the indo european languages,the european invasion theory is a fake
Mr.Naveen ,

Sanskrit do not have own writing scripts , I have doubt Rigveda which script written ? Sanskrit oral language & origin place Iran . Please Clarifiy .

Finaly do not spread false information.Mr. Naveen ? Sanskrit - No Native Script & Now days hardly 5000 people only speaking all over world . Why ....... How they written all Vedas in sanskrit , Please Tell me .
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Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> is it? I should say same to all tamils who dont have brain to accet facts like you
Naveen, till now u have not provided any proofs at all instead u say the same thing and u are not coming our of batiprolu. who the bloody said tamil is a half language give me the proof. it is telugu which contains half sanskrit and half tamil. we have equivalent meanings in our own language for what whatever borrowed from sanskrit to telugu. how dare u say its a tribal version of telugu language. Our language is very rich it literature as it contains 5 Epics, Aathichudi and Thirukural written by Saint Thiruvalluvar which is translated to several european languages and the facts is worldwidely accepted. u r fully dumped with bloody superstitious as u say sanskrit is gods breathe. Its purely about Language bebate and u r talking rascism this shows how much educated u r.
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Naveen kumar wrote:
Ram, why are u talking about 9000 b.c. Number of cities sunked in water across the world,another 2 cities also sunked in water in north india,a city is 12000 year old another city is 32000 year old,ruins,skeletons etc.. also found in many sunken cities across the world ,even nobody knows about their civilizations,life,language etc.... This era generation religions and languages in the world are started to born from just this common era to 1000 b.c.e.,dont talk foolishly
Mr.Naveen

TOPIC is Which is the Oldest Indian Language? Sanskrit Vs Tamil. But u written telugu , Prakrit language (Pali ). U know how many people speak in india PrakriT & Sanskrit . God never speak any single language ( San). In ancient time tamil language only spoken in all over india . Tamil ( draviden ) people lived in all over india . The only one language forms of writing & grammar have developed that time .Now days PrakriT & Sanskrit only in Text BOOK. do u know sangam lit.......

INDIA IS blong to Draviden (Tamil ) People , Eg - Lord Krishana (kannan) is color Black not a W----t. Now day north india Language & people mix with different Religion , afghanistan ,Iran,Iraq & mughal (afghanistan ). That is resion North people hid the indian real Histroy . they have power to change our History.

Please Explan - Krishna color why black .so Sri Krishna ( Sri Rangam )- Tamil origin)
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Naveen kumar wrote:
Ram, why are u talking about 9000 b.c. Number of cities sunked in water across the world,another 2 cities also sunked in water in north india,a city is 12000 year old another city is 32000 year old,ruins,skeletons etc.. also found in many sunken cities across the world ,even nobody knows about their civilizations,life,language etc.... This era generation religions and languages in the world are started to born from just this common era to 1000 b.c.e.,dont talk foolishly
FYI ,

Mr.Naveen

Please Study about Adichanallur , Tarangambadi- Poompuhar coast near Nagapattinam in South India & Ancient Lemuria/ Kumari Kandam( 200,000 to 50,000 BC: evolution of "the Tamilian or Homo Dravida",.

Then , Krishana color is BLACK.

Spiritual & Temple .

List of large Hindu temples in the world.

This is a list of Hindu Temples in terms of area. Most of the largest Hindu Temples reside in Tamil Nadu( Thillai Natarajah Temple,Srirangam temple,Annamalaiyar Temple Ekambareswarar Temple ,ThiruvanaikavalMeenakshi Sundareswarar Temple or Meenakshi Amman Temple is a historic Hindu temple in the holy city of Madurai in India. The temple forms the heart and lifeline of the 2500 year-old city of Madurai.. Why ..

Mr. Naveen Wakeup !!!!!!!!!!

India - from Himalayas to Kanyakumari, a land of intense spirituality and religious faith reflected in the profusion of temples present in this subcontinent. Temples are found every where in India from large monumental structures to small stonebuildings, each having a certain significance and greatly influencing the lives of the people who regard the temple as a place where they could be close to god.

Particularly in Tamilnadu, there are 84 Divya desams ( Viashnava temples adored by Alwaars) out of 108 and 264 Saiva temples ( adored by Devaram wriiten by Appar, Sundrar and Thirunavukkarasar) out of 274 in Inida.

Mr. Naveen -AP dont talk stupidly & idiotically.

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Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> yes,tamil is not a language at all
Mr.Naveen - Wake Up!!!!!!!!!!

First u study tamil histroy & People , Grammar .then u come & Speak . eg: Telugu Grammar (11th century A.D )vs Tolkappiyam ( Tamil Grammar )-3rd century BCE , Tamil is mother for dravidian language.

First U Study SANGAM LITERATURE.

Sangam literature refers to a body of classical Tamil literature created between the years c. 600 BCE to 300 CE.This collection contains 2381 poems composed by 473 poets, some 102 of whom remain anonymous The period during which these poems were composed is commonly referred to as the Sangam period, referring to the prevalent Sangam legends claiming literary academies lasting thousands of years, giving the name to the corpus of literature. Sangam literature is primarily secular dealing with everyday themes in a Tamilakam context.

World people accept tamil is classical language & IND's only one classical Language .

Naveen please compare Tamil Grammar time , Sangam literature & Telugu Grammar Time ?
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Jacob,dont make false statements. Telugu is older than all south indian languages and mother of all south indian languages and what do u know about prakrit language,already the prakrit was highly developed in 4th century b.c.e. It has outstanding scriptures and literature at 4th century b.c.e. Prakrit words are similiar to sanskrit and prakrit is in devanagiri script. Telugu is mother of brahmi script,all south indian languages are derived from brahmi script, early brahmi inscriptions was found in bhattiprolu at 400
b.c.and ashoka modified it as tamill brahmi at 250 b.c.e. Oldest Kannada inscriptions at 350 a.d in tagarthi, malayalam inscriptions at 830 c.e. In vajhapally.
Mr.Naveen - do not speard flase information.

1.Sanskrit - No Native Script
2. Parkrit langugae not speaking now day
3.Which language vedas wriiten . truth sanskrit oral langage not a native script .some people say 10,000 year old - JOKE .
4.Tamil Script 5000 B.C.E ( Tholkappayam - Grammar Book ), See u think we have 5000 year before grammar book mean- our language evolution Minimum 15,000 year before.

Finaly...

i know i am out of topic but it is related to this topic.

Indian education system- teachers teaching false information in schools

1. Indian National Language - Hindi ( false Information ) there is no national Language in india.
2. Indian National game - Hockey ( false Information ) there is no national Game in india
3. father of nation - Mr.Gan....( false Information ) there is no Father of nation in india
etc....this is indian education teaching range information to people.
By Indian.
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History of india:
10400bc:
mayan the greatest scientist started first tamil sangam. he wrote aintiram(5 chapters 1.moolam 2.seelam 3.kaalam 4.kolam 5.gnaalam) it was called aimarai. with tamil grammer. and he wrote pirazhnavam (4 chapters 1.iyal 2.isai 3. nadanam 4. kattadam) it was called naanmarai. he wrote vaasa saathiram to built houses and buildings. his followers travelled all over the coastal countries of the world to teach vaasa saathiram.
6050-6000 bc:
agathyar wrote agathyam the second tamil grammer.mahabharatham war. krishna told arjuna to go to chera dynasty and learn martial arts and brahmaayutham(hydrogen bomb) from agathyar. death of lord krishna.
6000 bc :
great diluge destroyed all the coastal lands of the world and a part of kumari kandam and whole of dwaraka. arjuna lead the people of lord krishna to the eastern bank of river saraswathi in pakistan(part of indus valley).indiran worshippers lived in the western bank of river saraswathy.agathyar with 6 more followers of mayan escaped to indus vally in the north.agathyar wrote grammer for adhdhamagadhi(prakrutham) and translated pirazhnavam in prakrutham.the common people language of indus valley

5800 bc:
second tamil sangam started tholkapiyar wrote tholkapiyam.indiran worshippers came to indus valley and learned and memorised pirazhnavam.

2000bc:

ramayanam happened .second diluge destroyed the kavatapuram the second capital of pandian kingdom. drought happened and driedup saraswathi river. the followers of agathyar brought the people of krishna to south india and destroyed the forest north to chera kingdom(kerala) and created cities(karnataka)they were called velir.the indran worshippers followed the velir till punjab and settled in the mountains there..pandian king occupied part of chera and chola land.war between chera and velir happened frequently.

1500bc:
third tamil sangam started. rajputs became powerful in the north and the western chalukya captured karnataka and eastern chalukya captured andhram. agreement between chera chola and pandian for coalition against rajputs. war against chera and rajputs at mulloor battle field recorded in the third sangam literatures.

350 bc:
the indran worshippers lead by chandra gupta maurya defeated rajputs in the north but he could not defeat tamil kingdom because of coalition in the tamil kingdom. magasthenes an ambassador from rome visited chandra gupta maurya kingdom for trade. in his reference about the visit he mentions that chandra gupta maurya kingdom dint have writting script they memorise everything in their mind.(for reference see magasthenes visit to chandra gupta maurya rome edition.).

240 bc:

ashoka took the throne and he defeated the three tamil kingdom and captured tamil land. seeing the writting scripts in tamil he introduced writting script in sanskrit and called it brahmi script.vedas were written in sanskrit.

350ad:

end of third tamil sangam. telugu was declared as the official language of andhram over taking prakrutham.
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for reference of indiran worshippers please see the indus valley archeology of afghanistan.
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Feb 10, 2014
 
Well,

Thanks to Naveen, timelines are focused now.Jacob , you may need to correct ,Agasthyar and Ramayana periods will be well above, may be 4000 B.C.E. Astronomical calculation indicates those periods.

Yet the beautiful ,interesting and informative research paper translated in English by the Grandson of Tamil as well as Sanskrit scholar in The Hindu, on Tamil during Ramayana period is not being quoted and discussed.
Sooner or later west and Naveen will spend rest of the life defending the lies and distortions.
In this internet age we are discussing for future generation to know our past denied by these vested interests.
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Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu inscriptions in bhattiprolu at 500 b.c,tamil inscriptions found to be old as 250 b.c.no tamil inscriptions found before 250 b.c, tamil is just a tribal version of telugu spoken by small comunities of tamils in forests,and no kingdoms established in tamilnadu before andhrapradesh kingdom in south india
FYI,

Mr.Naveen - first u do not spread flase information . Note : A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th B.C ), but bhattiprolu 500 b.c script and Can u give me bhattiprolu 500 b.c script how many place epigraphy found ?, See U not read what we wrote and u simply writting somthing.

Above statement it self Tamil Brami 600 B.C epigraphy Inscriptions found in (Palani )Tamil nadu).

In fact u writting all information wrong statement ........

I have give more Significant Tamil Brahmi findings :-

1.There have been claims that fragments of Tamil Brahmi epigraphy found in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka date as far back as the 5th or 6th century BCE.

2. Recent claims for earlier dates include fragments of pottery from the trading town of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka, which have been dated to the early 4th century BCE; and on pieces of pottery in Adichanallur, Tamil Nadu, which were associated with radiocarbon dates to the 6th century BCE. The claimed pre-Ashokan Bhattiprolu and Adichanallur inscriptions.

3.A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century has also been claimed, but as of its 2011 announcement, Iravatham Mahadevan, "a leading authority on the Tamil-Brahmi and Indus scripts," and Dr. Y. Subbarayalu, Head of the Department of Indology at the French Institute of Pondicherry, cautioned that it was difficult to reach a conclusion on the basis of one single scientific dating.

4.A broken storage jar with inscriptions in Tamil Brahmi script in Quseir-al-Qadim,(Leukos Limen) Egypt, 1st century BCE. Two earlier Tamil Brahmi inscription discoveries at the same site, 1st century CE. which means 'pot suspended in a rope net'.

5.Tamil-Brahmi inscription on pottery found in Phu Khao Thong, Thailand, 2nd century CE. Touchstone (uraikal) engraved in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script at Khuan Luk Pat, 3rd-4th century CE

6.Black and red ware potsherd with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions in Ucchapanai, Kandarodai, Jaffna, 3rd century BCE

7.Tamil Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Kodumanal, Chennimalai near Erode.

8.Tamil-Brahmi script dating back to the 3rd century BCE near Thenur, Madurai. Script is written in gold bar ..etc.

First U study - Tamil king Pandian ..

The Pandyan or Pandian dynasty was an ancient Tamil dynasty, one of the three Tamil dynasties, the other two being the Chola and the Chera). which was ruled by Pandyas for 10,000 years, before getting submerged in the western Indian Ocean, the conventional historical evidences so far, suggest that they ruled parts of South India from around 600 BCE (Early Pandyan Kingdom) to first half of 17th century AD. They initially ruled their country Pandya Nadu from Korkai, a seaport on the southernmost tip of the Indian Peninsula, and in later times moved to Madurai. Fish being their flag, Pandyas were experts in water management, agriculture(mostly near river banks) and fisheries and they were eminent sailors and sea traders too. Pandyan was well known since ancient times, with contacts, even diplomatic, reaching the Roman Empire. During the 13th century AD, Marco Polo mentioned it as the richest empire in existence. The Pandyan empire was home to temples including Meenakshi Amman Temple in Madurai, and Nellaiappar Temple built on the bank of the river Thamirabarani in Tirunelveli. The Pandya kings were called either Jatavarman or Maravarman Pandyan. From being Jains in their early ages, they became Shaivaits after some centuries of rule...etc.
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Tolkapiyam is the oldest Tamil work found. But tolkapiyam belongs to 3rd sangam of tamil language. If we get the details of 1st and 2nd sangam then the world will know.

Truth will surface soon. Wait and watch.
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Naveen kumar wrote:
Jacob,i had already said that prakrit is in devanagiri script and prakrit had outstanding litertatures and scriptures at 400 b.c.e(
Note :(Tolkappiyam Grammar Book 500 B.C.E ) Tamil is the Oldest Indian Language- Mr .Naveen you proved Here.........& .In fact u writting all information wrong statement ........

FYI,

Please Clarify Mr.NAVeen.

A. Please list of prakrit litertatures & How many people now speaking in india .

B. Devanagari - Eastern variants of Gupta Script called NAGARI are first attested from the 7th century CE; from c. 1200 CE ) a compound of "deva" and "n&#257;gar&#299; " , also called Nagari (Nagari the name of its parent writing system), is an abugida alphabet of India and Nepal. It is written from left to right, does not have distinct letter cases, and is recognisable (along with most other North Indic scripts, with few exceptions like Gujarati and Oriya) by a horizontal line that runs along the top of full letters. Since the 19th century, it has been the most commonly used script for writing Sanskrit. Devanagari is used to write Hindi, Marathi and Nepali among other languages and dialects. It was formerly used to write Gujarati. Because it is the standardised script for the Hindi language.

Note : A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th B.C ), but bhattiprolu 500 b.c script and Can u give me bhattiprolu 500 b.c script how many place epigraphy found ?, See U not read what we wrote and u simply writting somthing.

Above statement it self Tamil Brami 600 B.C epigraphy Inscriptions found in (Palani )Tamil nadu).

In fact u writting all information wrong statement ........

I have give more Significant Tamil Brahmi findings :-

1.There have been claims that fragments of Tamil Brahmi epigraphy found in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka date as far back as the 5th or 6th century BCE.

2. Recent claims for earlier dates include fragments of pottery from the trading town of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka, which have been dated to the early 4th century BCE; and on pieces of pottery in Adichanallur, Tamil Nadu, which were associated with radiocarbon dates to the 6th century BCE. The claimed pre-Ashokan Bhattiprolu and Adichanallur inscriptions.

3.A date for Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions in Palani as early as the 6th century has also been claimed, but as of its 2011 announcement, Iravatham Mahadevan, "a leading authority on the Tamil-Brahmi and Indus scripts," and Dr. Y. Subbarayalu, Head of the Department of Indology at the French Institute of Pondicherry, cautioned that it was difficult to reach a conclusion on the basis of one single scientific dating.

4.A broken storage jar with inscriptions in Tamil Brahmi script in Quseir-al-Qadim,(Leukos Limen) Egypt, 1st century BCE. Two earlier Tamil Brahmi inscription discoveries at the same site, 1st century CE. which means 'pot suspended in a rope net'.

5.Tamil-Brahmi inscription on pottery found in Phu Khao Thong, Thailand, 2nd century CE. Touchstone (uraikal) engraved in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script at Khuan Luk Pat, 3rd-4th century CE

6.Black and red ware potsherd with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions in Ucchapanai, Kandarodai, Jaffna, 3rd century BCE

7.Tamil Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Kodumanal, Chennimalai near Erode.

8.Tamil-Brahmi script dating back to the 3rd century BCE near Thenur, Madurai. Script is written in gold bar ..etc.
jacob tirunelveli

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bhattiprolu inscription is a prakrut inscription. telugu scholars claim that the prakrut words in this inscription are loanwords from telugu. bhattiprolu inscription is not telugu inscription.
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tamil is the oldest language ,tamils r not hindus they r ancient buddhist.

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