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Vinod S

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#1986
Feb 4, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu inscriptions in bhattiprolu at 500 b.c,tamil inscriptions found to be old as 250 b.c.no tamil inscriptions found before 250 b.c, tamil is just a tribal version of telugu spoken by small comunities of tamils in forests,and no kingdoms established in tamilnadu before andhrapradesh kingdom in south india
I am not blaming Telugu but u r one of the secleted telugu fool in the world. Telugu is wholy depended on Sanskrit but tamil is not like that. it does not have any sanskrit influence and there are proofs.
1. Agree with Aryabatta is from Ashmaka family but he is Sanskritian not telugu. he is an aryan from Central Asia. Whoever born in Andra doesnt mean they are telugu. no wonder u will also say Great Alexander is Telugu.
2. Who said Raja Raja Chozhan is Telugu his name is Eraasa Raasa Chozhan.
3. Most of the non-sanskrit words in telugu are taken from Tamil language
4. Go and search the history of Bodhi Dharma. i will come to know he is telugu or Tamil
5. Not even the single Telugu inscription found in the temples of Tamil Nadu
6. Hindi is the Mixture of Arabic and Sanskrit. Bloody u people fkng support that language why should we.
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#1987
Feb 5, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu inscriptions in bhattiprolu at 500 b.c,tamil inscriptions found to be old as 250 b.c.no tamil inscriptions found before 250 b.c, tamil is just a tribal version of telugu spoken by small comunities of tamils in forests,and no kingdoms established in tamilnadu before andhrapradesh kingdom in south india
You Telugu people are 79 Millions and we tamils are 78 Millions spreaded all over the world.
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#1988
Feb 5, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu inscriptions in bhattiprolu at 500 b.c,tamil inscriptions found to be old as 250 b.c.no tamil inscriptions found before 250 b.c, tamil is just a tribal version of telugu spoken by small comunities of tamils in forests,and no kingdoms established in tamilnadu before andhrapradesh kingdom in south india
Tamil Brahmi -10,000 Years before :-

Adichanallur is an archaeological site (Tamil:ஆத ிச&#30 21;சந& #2994;்ல ூர&#30 21;) in Tirunelveli district in Tamil Nadu, India. The town is known locally as Aathichanallur, and has been the site of a number of very important archaeological finds. Korkai the capital of the Early Pandyan Kingdom is located about 15 km from Adichanallur.

In 2004, a number of skeletons dating from around 10,000 years ago were found buried in earthenware urns. More than 160 urns have been found. These urns also contained writing, which according to some ASI archaeologists, is "very rudimentary" Tamil Brahmi.

Later, a three-tier burial system was discovered in which earlier generations were buried in urns at 10 feet depth and recent ones above them. Soon the habitation site of the people who were buried was also discovered recently.

Analyzing the habitation site, it was understood that people lived in a fortified town and it had a separate potters quarters. There was also evidence of industrial activity and archaeologists think that it was a crowded busy town. Sherds were also found with writings in Tamil-Brahmi scripts.
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#1989
Feb 5, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
tamil history is not old as telugu,tamil population was half of the telugu population before independence in the madras province,it is the 5th most spoke language in india while telugu is in 2nd place for the oldest speaking languages,in world telugu is 12 th, tamil is 18th,telugu population above 9 crores tamils are 7 crores including the 42% telugu origins from oldest language speaking people,tamilnadu packed with 42% telugu origins,tamils are greatest fools in world claiming with the mythological stories without any scientific proofs,created by their ancestors,tamil is a joke foolish tamils
FYI,
First Indian People not study own histroy , That is the reasion Some People talk about ( Sanskrit & Telugu ). India belongs to Tamil People((Dravida - Dramila - Tamizha or Tamil).
Kumari Kandam :-
From the Island of Moo called Lemuria, which was located Kumari Kandam in South Tamil Nadu, about 1,00,000 years ago due to tsunami. These letters are the script of Moo civilization, which was well developed.
From Atlantis, due to tsunami, the Moo people moved to South America and became Aztecs and Incas. Those who moved to North America became Mexicans and Red Indians.
From Kumari Kandam, South of Tamil Nadu, about 15,000 years ago people moved to Africa and became Sumerians and those who moved from Africa to Arabia later became Jews.
From Kumari Kandam, South of Tamil Nadu due to tsunami, people moved to Bengal and became Cholas and those who moved to Sind and Punjab became Cheras.
In Sillapathikaram, it was mentioned that one “Ezhuthanga Nadu”(7x7 =49 countries) existed. So, Southern Tamil Nadu and Kumari Kandam are different regions. Those who have moved to Southern Tamil Nadu were called Pandiyas and they spread over Ceylon and Tirunelvelli.
Tamil literatures say that during the Kurukshethra war, Chera Kings had given food to both the armies. From all these we come to a conclusion that the Ancient South India would have been with tall cliffs, dense forests with high fertility.
Because of a calamity, which took place in 9,000 BC, a terrific destruction occurred and destroyed Chera, Chola and Pandiya Kingdoms and they all then came and settled in South India. The great scholar Sri Avvai Duraisamy Pillai has established that the “Pancha Dravidam” is the region consisting Gujarath, Maharashtra, Andhra, Kerala, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu.
This is the time to write the correct history of Tamil Nadu. In “Irayanar Agapporul”(Nakkeerar Urai) it is mentioned that 72 Pandiya Kings had ruled Tamil Nadu (which was inclusive of the destroyed Kumari Kandam) from 30,000 B.C. to 16,000 B.C.(i.e. for 14,000 years).
Our universities have to undertake the responsibility to arrive at the correct history of Tamil Nadu.
Vinod S

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#1990
Feb 5, 2014
 
Guruprasad bangalore wrote:
The famous indian actor rajanikanth is a kannadiga,talented filmstars prakash raj,prabhudeva etc.are kannadigas
In those days the Artists come street by street and perform the drama and dance in the conclusion time they take the plate and come around the public for collecting the money almost like begging & now it is somewhat modernised. And u are proud of it?

Bloody why pulling the Cinemas into this block. How fat brain yours is......
Naveen kumar

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#1991
Feb 5, 2014
 
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
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aintiram written by mayan is the oldest literature in the world 10000bc. your telugu doesnt stand near tamil. estern chalukya of andhra made coalision with tamil chola thats why they survived the western chalukya invasion for 500 years. otherwise you would have been slaves in those days. telugu has no literature or inscription earlier than 100ad. your claims are written with half knowledge for eg you said pothi dharman is telugu please read "The essentials of buddhist philosophy" written by junjiro takakusu a chinese author. dont give falls statement. pothi dharman learned all medicine and martial arts from chera dynasty(kerala)
u mad man,how came pothi dharma here
Naveen kumar

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#1992
Feb 5, 2014
 
U jackob, first of all aintiram is fake and did not have any scientific proof for that and that is only foolish claim of ur tamilians,eastern chalukyas merged with early cholas otherwise tamils are lived as slaves under other kingdoms of india,fool telugu is only old as 100 a.d? see bhattiprolu inscriptions with outstanding evidence inscriptions of 500 b.c,and tamil inscriptions are of 250 a.d.,and sinhavishnu son bodhi dharma is a telugu,not tamil,these names are telugu names not pothi dharma,bodhi means englightenment and teacher of(dharma),and guntur was the epic center of buddhism
Naveen kumar

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#1993
Feb 5, 2014
 
Aryabhatta is from ap,vinod fool,the telugu land gave birth to lot of great and historical people and arya means noble and intelligent not aryan or north indian,except tamilnadu,the indian people names in every region are in sanskrit bcoz sanskrit was official language of india at thosedays bcoz sanskrit was old with great exisisting literatures,while tamil is a tribal spoken by small comunities in tamilnadu,raja raja also a telugu his name is not eraasa raasa chozan your tamils later added this name in tamil and there were 10 chola kings born before raja raja chola,those name were in pure telugu or sanskrit,the andhra kings merged with early cholas at 600 a.d then telugus acended the chola throne and ruled tamilregion and considered as tamils in tn and tamil language is a tribal version of telugu language for sure and spoken by small comunities of people in forest and ur tamil words from telugu origin are ugly in pronounciations and not sweet as telugu,and u go and see pallava temples,cave inscriptions,some chola temples and nayak temples u find lot of telugu inscriptions on temple walls bcoz those were builted by telugus or telugu origins
Naveen kumar

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#1994
Feb 5, 2014
 
Ram,dont construct mythological and false statements,skeletons are founded in various parts of the world with the history of 2 lakh years to 10 thousand years,and sunken city lumeria dates to 9 thousand years,dwaraka is 12 thousand years old,another sunken city in india is 32 thousand years old,a sunken city in japan is 14 thousand year old,etc....many cities are sunked in water across the world with history of thousands of years that doesn't mean all the people living in the world are belonging to those sunken cities,actually we dont know 100% about their life,language,etc...and the kaliyuga started at 5100 years ago and this is another yuga and another birth of human speices,another generation,dont construct false statements about 10 thousand b.c. Atleast talk about this yuga if tamil history is old from ur opinion,if pandyas came from lumeria before 9000 years and settle in tn,why they are not builted the temples before pallavas,and why no tamil inscriptions was not found before 250 b.c at any stones,caves or caves,why all the great literatures in sanskrit,why stonecut temples were builted by telugu origins,why those temples were not builted before 600 b.c.,please tamils dont be foolish,acording to the north indian peoples ur tamils are foolish and madrasse means a brainless person, and facts about tamilnadu, tamilnadu is formed with 42% of telugu origins and iyyers,reddiar,naicker,mudaliy ar,pallavas,midcholas,nayak kingdoms,velirs are north indians etc... Are telugu origins,and tamils first of all u should have to know that if 42% are considered as telugus the telugu population will be nearly 12.7 crore in world tamil people will be 4.8 crores in world, aryan invasion theory also a fake myth to divide indian people for colonial exploitation in british rule,colour of people due to climate conditions every down area people are blacker than upper areas,indians are one race,srilankans are blacker than tamils are blacker than andhra are than kerala and karnataka are blacker than rajasthan than gujarath than kashmir than pakistan than afghanistan than iran than turkish than rusian and some different features in skin,etc..in north and other parts of india bcoz of the muslim and europeans invasions and with their mixing with indians, some dna groups are different among some indians bcoz of merging of different people with indians,i know this is topic of the language but some body has said word aryan in a post thatswhy i told about that,
Naveen kumar

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#1995
Feb 5, 2014
 
Ram wrote:
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FYI,
First Indian People not study own histroy , That is the reasion Some People talk about ( Sanskrit & Telugu ). India belongs to Tamil People((Dravida - Dramila - Tamizha or Tamil).
Kumari Kandam :-
From the Island of Moo called Lemuria, which was located Kumari Kandam in South Tamil Nadu, about 1,00,000 years ago due to tsunami. These letters are the script of Moo civilization, which was well developed.
From Atlantis, due to tsunami, the Moo people moved to South America and became Aztecs and Incas. Those who moved to North America became Mexicans and Red Indians.
From Kumari Kandam, South of Tamil Nadu, about 15,000 years ago people moved to Africa and became Sumerians and those who moved from Africa to Arabia later became Jews.
From Kumari Kandam, South of Tamil Nadu due to tsunami, people moved to Bengal and became Cholas and those who moved to Sind and Punjab became Cheras.
In Sillapathikaram, it was mentioned that one “Ezhuthanga Nadu”(7x7 =49 countries) existed. So, Southern Tamil Nadu and Kumari Kandam are different regions. Those who have moved to Southern Tamil Nadu were called Pandiyas and they spread over Ceylon and Tirunelvelli.
Tamil literatures say that during the Kurukshethra war, Chera Kings had given food to both the armies. From all these we come to a conclusion that the Ancient South India would have been with tall cliffs, dense forests with high fertility.
Because of a calamity, which took place in 9,000 BC, a terrific destruction occurred and destroyed Chera, Chola and Pandiya Kingdoms and they all then came and settled in South India. The great scholar Sri Avvai Duraisamy Pillai has established that the “Pancha Dravidam” is the region consisting Gujarath, Maharashtra, Andhra, Kerala, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu.
This is the time to write the correct history of Tamil Nadu. In “Irayanar Agapporul”(Nakkeerar Urai) it is mentioned that 72 Pandiya Kings had ruled Tamil Nadu (which was inclusive of the destroyed Kumari Kandam) from 30,000 B.C. to 16,000 B.C.(i.e. for 14,000 years).
Our universities have to undertake the responsibility to arrive at the correct history of Tamil Nadu.
lol.... tamil fools writing their fake history
Mudaliar

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#1996
Feb 5, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> lol.... tamil fools writing their fake history
Naveen , thanks for recording that Tamils and Telugus are fools , only Europeans are intelligent who distorted history and winning still and agree that South India did not have history before ALEXANDER invasion.e no scripts, World was created as per biblical date only?
Thanks once again that Sanskrit alone could not bring the Tamil historians but A Telugu brought them in fore front.

Yes claim that Kambar, wrote Ramayana in Telugu .

Well a lot of food, evidences and arguments##########

Tokappiam is a telugu grammar and what more you want to blab, blab , great going ,Kambar was patronized Sadyappa vallal and he was a telugu vellala
, go on no one is going to stop you.
This forum need contradictions, a real history is being debated.
Mudaliar

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#1997
Feb 5, 2014
 
Rajeshwer wrote:
<quoted text> tamil half language and why tamils cant accept
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Rajeswer
Why half , it is not a language at all .Because one letter mispronounced yielded a great Kaviam
Kondu va became konruva meaning ^BRING HIM TO THE COURT^misunderstood? mischief? so that Kovaln , the hero was killed ? A great literature by tribals.
How come tribals spoke same letter with different sounds with great meaning.
Mudaliar

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#1998
Feb 5, 2014
 
Hope our Kannada and Malayalam friends also join and take on Tamil .
We sure will unearth truth sabotaged so for.
Sidda Rasayana, alchemy ?. Thanks that was not credited to Ayurveda records. unlike many herbal medicines.
But here too North is not lacking in evidence to claim antiquity due to Buddhism?
Even Buddha, Mahavira had been denied their true timelines.
No wonder Sangam literature is attacked by vested interests. Some of the contributors are Jains , Buddisits, Saiva and Vaishnava Poets and Kings.

Thanks to MIT , that at least probability theory is credited duly to Hindus and Arabs and not to Greeks and Europeans.

Also Ramanujan is a great Mathematician and his mother tongue is a tribal language?

Naveen is quoting my posts but intentionally mixing up the Timelines.He again depends upon history books and wiki and decided not to learn and study research papers.

Also go though blogs on contradictions in History and I can see similar claims on Kannada and Malayalam, The beauty is they are too renowned and great thinkers with great perceptions.

Quote and argue , otherwise ,simply throwing mud each other do not serve any purpose.

Sooner or later arguments and timeline period are to be quoted and maintain discipline and not jump from 10000 B.C.E to A.D That is not fair.
Today , we are no longer have constrains to hypothesize against Darwinian which west are struggling to maintain and remain defensive .

One must keep trying to dig historical and mythology characters too.
How many can distinguish above characters and timelines clearly and correlate with archaeological, mythological, astronomical, anthropological study reports.
Even latest writers contribution can be analysed for the amount and content of historical perspective.

I know Ponniyin selven least, is available in English .Sivagamiyin Sabadam by Kalki and Sandylyans Yawana Rani,Kadal pura and whole lot of NOVELS based on historical research with crearative imagination brought alive from 1 A.D TO 16^t or 17th century A.D. culture with some historical charecters.
Just one example from Sandylyan novel, about Hippalas the wind, from when it was used for faster navigation and wheather Tamil or telugu people were mediators for Romans to trade with Chinese etc.
I wish to know from others similar novels in other languages translated in English for the period from Early 1.A.D TO 1500 A.D

That will provide some clue that how much they have tried to dig history controversial to Euro Greek distorted records.
After all they belong to our generation of Macaulay education system.

For sometime I am going engage on MIT , Harvard courses.
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Feb 6, 2014
 
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
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mr.naveen madurai meenakshi amman koil was built by pandyan kings. nellai appar koil was built by pandyans and many more temples in tamilnadu are there. why you want to take away whatever rajarajacholan did. rajarajacholan is a pure tamilan king. you are really a half baked fool claiming all tamil works as yours. i know 2001 census and everybody knows 5.65% telugu people are there in tamilnadu. so what. dont give your own census. iam fed up with such akind of fools. our aintiram literature written by mayan is carbon dated 10000bc by tamilnadu govt. pranava veda is a copied version of pirazhnava of mayan. your vedas are all copied version of tamil works. read all literatures well and come and argue. your half baked knowledge shows you are really stupid.
Even the 5.65% people you have mentioned are also not telugus they are tamils only...one can be called as telugu only if he knows to speak and write in telugu, these 5.65%people talk an earlier form of telugu which is similar to sangam tamil differs very much than the present modified telugu and also they dont know how to write in telugu but know only tamil...but for that they never went on to protest demand for mini telangana in tamilnadu for telugu peoples, or they never went on fasting till death like the sentimental killer "potti sriramulu" who is the main reason to steal the borders of ancient tamilagam like thirumalai(tirumala?- thiru is a telugu word?), kalahasti(one of the five pancha bootha sthalams of tamilnadu) which are all mentioned in sangam tamil literature...these peoples celebrate pongal festival,chithirai new year like the other tamils but not celebrate yugadhi like the telugus...the ancestors of these peoples are the madurai pandiyans and thanjavur cholans...madura vijayam tells the relationship between godess meenakshi,pandiyans and the nayaks...thirumalai nayakkar unites the saivite,vainavite festival like the goddess meenakshi,sundareswarar marriage and the ceremony of lord azhagar getting down in vaigai river changed to chithirai festivel...these gods were the family deities(kula deivam in tamil) for the pandiyans and nayaks and rest of the chandravamsis kings...people of tamilnadu are the only people in world who are not migrants to other parts of world living in tamilnadu for millions of years...this was proved by a recent genetical survey held in madurai...virumandi andidevar a system engineer from kallar caste in madurai having the world's oldest m130 gene(60000years) which is found in madagascar(an under water mountain bridge can be seen from madagascar to south india marked by white lines in indian ocean which shows existence of malayan mountains from south india to africa)...
http://www.abroadintheyard.com/modern-faces-a...
kallar peoples are from chola dynasty who descended from manuneedhi cholan in tamil who called as vivaswatha manu who is the progenitor of present human as per hindu puranas...cholar means sun cholar became solar cho and so are denoted by same letters in tamil...the pandiyans were descendents of manu cholan's sister side ie ilai in tamil and aila in sanskrit(aila dynadty)...an archaelogical site in adichanallur, tirunelveli has 15 lakh year old gene fossils of world's four major human races like the caucasians(daityas),mongoloids (dhanavas),dravidians,australo ids,native americans(manavas) and africans(asuras)...so south india was a common hub for all four races human , the africans separated from indians,caucasians,mongoloids by the submergence of malayan mountains...caucasians went westernwards arabs,sindhis,afghans were mixture of indians+caucasians this is why they are fair than south indians, north east indians are indians+mongoloids so their face cut looks like chinese but colour similar to south indians...
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Feb 6, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
Aryabhatta is from ap,vinod fool,the telugu land gave birth to lot of great and historical people and arya means noble and intelligent not aryan or north indian,except tamilnadu,the indian people names in every region are in sanskrit bcoz sanskrit was official language of india at thosedays bcoz sanskrit was old with great exisisting literatures,while tamil is a tribal spoken by small comunities in tamilnadu,raja raja also a telugu his name is not eraasa raasa chozan your tamils later added this name in tamil and there were 10 chola kings born before raja raja chola,those name were in pure telugu or sanskrit,the andhra kings merged with early cholas at 600 a.d then telugus acended the chola throne and ruled tamilregion and considered as tamils in tn and tamil language is a tribal version of telugu language for sure and spoken by small comunities of people in forest and ur tamil words from telugu origin are ugly in pronounciations and not sweet as telugu,and u go and see pallava temples,cave inscriptions,some chola temples and nayak temples u find lot of telugu inscriptions on temple walls bcoz those were builted by telugus or telugu origins
mr.naveen chola dynasty was the biggest during 1200ad to 1550 ad. during this period only for 10 years as the chola prince was young your telugu king ruled chola region. then after irasarasa cholan ruled chola dynasty as well as andra . please refer history. the chola kings ruled both chola and andra during 1200ad to 1550 ad. keeping kanchipuram as capital.
yesterday i went to tanjavoor(tanjore) temple. there is no inscription or even any word about telugu. i took photographs of all inscriptions and scuptures.there is no evidence of telugu there. why you are giving false statement. you bloody brahmin idiot you cant fool others anymore.
1.chola dynasty is pure tamil kings as they encouraged brahmins their names has hindu touch.
2.Aintiram olai suvadi is still preserved in mamallapuram library. Aintiram is published as a book by c. aranganayakam the tamilnadu minister of education in 1986. Aintiram book is sold all over the world. all researchers have given comments about aintiram.
3. pirazhnavam is published by american university of mayonic science and technology in 206 may.
please read about mayan the first scientist of the world.
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#2001
Feb 7, 2014
 
Naveen kumar wrote:
Telugu inscriptions in bhattiprolu at 500 b.c,tamil inscriptions found to be old as 250 b.c.no tamil inscriptions found before 250 b.c, tamil is just a tribal version of telugu spoken by small comunities of tamils in forests,and no kingdoms established in tamilnadu before andhrapradesh kingdom in south india
mr.naveen the oldest recorded inscription in south asia
1. tamil 700bc found in srilanka.
2.kannada 450bc halmidi
3.prakrut 400bc some prakrut wordsfound in bhattiprola in guntur in this inscriptions have loanwords from telugu claimed by telugu scholars.
4.sanskrit 250bc in ashoka inscription.
5. telugu 575 ad kalamella in kadapa

57% of inscriptions found in india are in tamil.
30% of inscriptions found in india are in kannada.

these are the recently updated records in india.
please think before writting. everyone here are well educated .
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#2002
Feb 7, 2014
 
Sanskrit is only language that no one know how it is old even scientist.

becoz it is 2 billion old language.
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#2003
Feb 7, 2014
 
Jacob,dont make false statements. Telugu is older than all south indian languages and mother of all south indian languages and what do u know about prakrit language,already the prakrit was highly developed in 4th century b.c.e. It has outstanding scriptures and literature at 4th century b.c.e. Prakrit words are similiar to sanskrit and prakrit is in devanagiri script. Telugu is mother of brahmi script,all south indian languages are derived from brahmi script, early brahmi inscriptions was found in bhattiprolu at 400
b.c.and ashoka modified it as tamill brahmi at 250 b.c.e. Oldest Kannada inscriptions at 350 a.d in tagarthi, malayalam inscriptions at 830 c.e. In vajhapally.
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#2004
Feb 7, 2014
 
Gauriyan,telugu converted to tamilian as hindu converted to muslim listen,why are ur tamil fools feel shame to accept the facts,42% of people in tamilnadu are the origin of telugus,telugus are densely packed in the areas of krishnagiri,dharmapuri,thiruva llur,velur,kanchipuram,salem,d indugal,madurai,theni,virudhna gar,thuthukudi,thirunelveli,ap art from chennai and coimbattore cities,khammas,naikers,reddies ,telugu brahmins,telugu chetties,arunthathiars,rajus,t elugu yadavs and more commitees are telugus,but they dont have telugu educations and not mentioned telugu as their mother tongue and not shown by ur authorities,there are many villages,towns,assembly and parliament constiencies dominated by telugu people and origins and telugu people are forgetting telugu generation by generation half of ur tamilnadu is formed with telugu origins remember this
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#2005
Feb 7, 2014
 
Idiot Jacob,only early cholas are tamils,midieval cholas belong to andhra and acended the chola throne and ruled tamilnadu and lived as tamils

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