Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Common

Melbourne, Australia

#1897 Jan 27, 2014
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Krishna

Ashburn, VA

#1898 Jan 27, 2014
Common wrote:
Now its official...
Alex has facts for us brush up..
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rofl.......
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#1900 Jan 28, 2014
dear all, if you try to interpret tamil sangam literatures please do not interpret them with sentamizh. sangam literatures were written in iyatamizh. And the sangam literatures were compiled according to their catagory like agam, puram etc they are not catagorised by date. the third sangam literatures vary from 1500bc to 350ad. they have to be catogorised again as before hinduism and after hinduism.
let me explain why.. the tholkapiyam was written in second sangam (around 5000bc) and the introduction for tholkapiyam was written by a poet in third sangam(before hinduism 300bc).now i interpret the introductory poem of tholkapiyam.before that you must know about mayan. he is the first scientist of the world who wrote aintiram an scientific tamil literature and iyakkanam and pirazhnavam basics for iyal isai nadanam and kattadam. pirazhnavam was considered as the veda of tamils before hinduism which has four chapters( iyal,isai,nadanam and kattadam)
"munthu nool kandu muraipadi enni pulam thoguthone"
munthu nool kandu= learned ancient literatures about lands(pulam)
muraipadi enni= learned them and did thorough research.,
pulam thoguthone=you classified the lands.
"pokku aru panuval nilam tharu thiruvin"
pokku aru=in the unexplored land of
panuval nilam= cotton tree forest(paruthi kaadu in tamil)
tharu thiruvin=which gave the god (god's)
"pandian avaiyathu"= in the pandian's world teaching righteosness(tamil sangam)
"aram karai naavin"= in the tongue of the god(mentioned above) which taught us righteosness.
"naan marai mutriya"= the four vedas were sung and ended.,
"athankottu aasaarku"= as a branch(follower) of that teacher
"aril thabath therinthu"=next to him you are the one who knows everything that he knows.,
"mayanka marabin" = in the tradition preserved by mayan.,
"ezhuthu murai kaatti"= you wrote the grammer.,
"malkuneer =like the water that fills and raises.,
"varaipin"=at the shore.,
"aintiram niraintha tholkapiyan"=you are overflowing with aintiram(wrote by mayan) you tholkapiyan
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#1901 Jan 28, 2014
before hinduism came to tamil land the tamilians worshipped gods and built temples for that god. the priest who perform the poosei(rituals) was called andanan. the people who lived and civilised in plain lands worshipped siva(as siva itself) the other names for siva are aadhavan,pakalon,elliyon,sadai etc. and the people also worshipped bull because it helped in the farm.and the people who lived in the hillside worshipped a god named velan. according to ancient literatures velan is a holy spirit who doesnt have a body. the hillside people were mostly hunters and they kept vel(sphere) as the symbol of velan which helped them in hunting. the temple of velan is still maintained in its old fashion in srilanka till today. most of the sangam literatures written before hinduism mentions velan god when they write about hillside civilisations. this same name has been addressed to murugan after hinduism. as murugan also has vel as his weapon. the poets kabilar,nakkeerar,ovvaiyar came after hinduism in third sangam. the mention murugu,velavan for murugan.
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#1902 Jan 29, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Mudaliyar u fool, muthuraja or mudaliyar are basically the descendants of telugu warriors/kings who migrated from rayalaseema of andhrapradesh, the mudiraj people also spread into kerala,karnataka,maharashtra,g ujarath,and other parts of north india and they are also called as kolis in north india
Naveen, Pls Wiki Mudaliyar, it has its root from Vellalar. Likewise Nayagan(Hero in Tamil), Nayak in kannada, Nayar in Malayalam & Naidu in Telugu, Also there was no language called Telugu earlier the scripts were borrowed from kannada and the Langauge Speaking style was borrowed from Sanskrit and Tamil. And the language also has the root from Tamil.
for eg. "Ee"(to Give) is Chaste tamil word, Chedi(Plant) copied as Chedu, NalaPaambu in tamil is black cobra whare "nala" is black borrowed as Nalupu in telugu. these are few examples & there are many words like this..... Note : the meaning of Mudal is First. Please gothrough the history and enter into this block.
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#1903 Jan 29, 2014
Mudaliar wrote:
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Naveen kumar
I hear for the first time that Aryabhatta is from Andhrapredesh ?Please provide more information on his origin and the links .It is good that b.c 800 there was a South Indian kingdom existed.What about extreme south, including Kerala?
You mean to say that Tamil kingdoms did not exist before b.c 800..
Regarding Mahabharata and Ramayanam if you have not come across references of Pandya kingdoms, it does not mean anything .I am not a historian but definitely read arguments in favor of the regime of Pandya kings..Why Rama did not take Pandya help in his war with Ravana.? During Mahabharata war, Pandyan king earned a name for providing food ?
I wonder what Literature existed in Telugu before Christian era and why there was a long period of absence for any outstanding literature in Telugu.
How Tamil got classical language status before other south Indian languages.
In how many countries Telugu is the National language first or at least second.
Probably You will enlighten us with facts on Telugu language and its grammar.
I am sincerely wish to know more about Telugu .It does not mean that you can abuse me in this forum. That is your choice.
Ha, Ha Mr. Naveen Kumar, Please do not get into Telugu Film Industry. The great comedian Mr. Bhramanandam will really lose his Reputation.
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#1904 Jan 29, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> u stupid how cholas and pandyas are mentioned in ramayana and mahabharatha? The chera, chola and pandyan kingdoms established in b.c 300, the only south indian kingdom established at b.c 800 was assaka aka ashmaka kingdom from andhrapradesh and aryabhatta the great and first astronomer and mathematician was from andhrapradesh
Ha, Ha Mr. Naveen Kumar, Please do not get into Telugu Film Industry. The great comedian Mr. Bhramanandam will really lose his Reputation.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1905 Jan 29, 2014
Vinod S wrote:
<quoted text>
Naveen, Pls Wiki Mudaliyar, it has its root from Vellalar. Likewise Nayagan(Hero in Tamil), Nayak in kannada, Nayar in Malayalam & Naidu in Telugu, Also there was no language called Telugu earlier the scripts were borrowed from kannada and the Langauge Speaking style was borrowed from Sanskrit and Tamil. And the language also has the root from Tamil.
for eg. "Ee"(to Give) is Chaste tamil word, Chedi(Plant) copied as Chedu, NalaPaambu in tamil is black cobra whare "nala" is black borrowed as Nalupu in telugu. these are few examples & there are many words like this..... Note : the meaning of Mudal is First. Please gothrough the history and enter into this block.
u ignorant tamil stupid,first of all u go and study some true historical books and also see wiki of mudhiraju
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1906 Jan 29, 2014
Vinod s, arey fool,dont coment with out knowing any history. Telugu is the oldest language than tamil and kannada,but sanskrit is the oldest language in the world,all the south indian languages borrowed words from sanskrit, and Telugu inscriptions founded that dated back to 500 b.c. At bhattiprolu,tamil inscriptions found that dated back to 300 b.c. Kannada inscriptions that dated back to 600 a.d and malayalam language born at 1200 a.d,. All the south indian languages born from brahmi script, kannada script born from telugu and separated from telugu.infact all the temples in tamilnadu were builted by telugu kings like pallavas,medieval cholas,nayaks,and engraved inscriptions in telugu, infact telugu people are responsible for the pride of tamils
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1907 Jan 29, 2014
Vinod s, abey stupid, aryabhatta born in the kingdom of ashmaka in andhrapradesh their capital was bahudanyapura meaning (city of many grains) present name bhodhan in the district of nizamabad also known as indhuru or indhrapuri
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1908 Jan 29, 2014
Vinod s,dumbass, read all my coments from naveen kumar back to january 20 then come to coment,telugu people are culturally and traditionally living much greater than all states in india
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1909 Jan 29, 2014
Vinod s, if u are really born to a tamil read all my coments back to january 20,then come to coment u fool,the ashmaka kingdom is the first south indian kingdom from andhrapradesh at b.c. 800.chera,early cholas,jafnas,thondaman,pandya s are only tamil kingdoms and pallavas are telugus,medieval cholas and later cholas are telugus,nearly 12 nayak kingdoms in tamilnadu and karnataka are telugus.
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#1910 Jan 29, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Vinod s, arey fool,dont coment with out knowing any history. Telugu is the oldest language than tamil and kannada,but sanskrit is the oldest language in the world,all the south indian languages borrowed words from sanskrit, and Telugu inscriptions founded that dated back to 500 b.c. At bhattiprolu,tamil inscriptions found that dated back to 300 b.c. Kannada inscriptions that dated back to 600 a.d and malayalam language born at 1200 a.d,. All the south indian languages born from brahmi script, kannada script born from telugu and separated from telugu.infact all the temples in tamilnadu were builted by telugu kings like pallavas,medieval cholas,nayaks,and engraved inscriptions in telugu, infact telugu people are responsible for the pride of tamils
mr.naveen kumar telugu is a very beautiful language all do respect telugu., but there is no literatures existing on telugu before 300bc. but iam damn sure telugu is as old as tamil. and about brahmi script during 340bc when chandra gupta maurya was ruling the north they dint know how to write.but even before that south indian languages had writing script.during 240bc when ashoka came to throne he invaded south india and seeing the scripts in south india he named it as brahmi scripts. but they are not called brahmi script before ashoka period.tamilnadu govt has published aintiram literature in 1986 written during the first tamil sangam by mayan . this aintiram is the base grammer for sanskrit. all vedas are translated form of pirazhnava the tamil veda written by mayan. andhra king married rajendra chola 1 daughter. after rajendra chola there were no one to take his throne so,the andhra king ruled both andhra and chola teritory. this brought lot of telugu people into tamil land.this happened during 1200ad.
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#1911 Jan 29, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
pallavas,medieval cholas,nayak kingdoms,bodhi dharma,tyagaraja,nagarjuna acharya,kambar aka kambudu,karunanidhi,anna,jayal alitha,sarvepalli radha krishna, etc..lot of people are the origin of telugus in tamilnadu,according to 2011 censius 42% of the tamil population are telugus, this is the ability of telugu people
dear naveen kumar the telugu speaking people in tamilnadu are 5.65% only please provide the link to your arguement. i have never seen such a thing and 42% you are really speaking without any knowledge about the subject. this is not a fight this is an arguement with proof. please dont argue without proof.
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#1912 Jan 30, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Vinod s, if u are really born to a tamil read all my coments back to january 20,then come to coment u fool,the ashmaka kingdom is the first south indian kingdom from andhrapradesh at b.c. 800.chera,early cholas,jafnas,thondaman,pandya s are only tamil kingdoms and pallavas are telugus,medieval cholas and later cholas are telugus,nearly 12 nayak kingdoms in tamilnadu and karnataka are telugus.
No telugu inscriptions found in the temples built by Raja raja Chola and no evidence found that telugu is older that Tamil. You need not criticize my birth we maintain our Race. And no evidence saying that Pallavas spoke telugu. Provide the link or proof.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1914 Jan 30, 2014
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
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mr.naveen kumar telugu is a very beautiful language all do respect telugu., but there is no literatures existing on telugu before 300bc. but iam damn sure telugu is as old as tamil. and about brahmi script during 340bc when chandra gupta maurya was ruling the north they dint know how to write.but even before that south indian languages had writing script.during 240bc when ashoka came to throne he invaded south india and seeing the scripts in south india he named it as brahmi scripts. but they are not called brahmi script before ashoka period.tamilnadu govt has published aintiram literature in 1986 written during the first tamil sangam by mayan . this aintiram is the base grammer for sanskrit. all vedas are translated form of pirazhnava the tamil veda written by mayan. andhra king married rajendra chola 1 daughter. after rajendra chola there were no one to take his throne so,the andhra king ruled both andhra and chola teritory. this brought lot of telugu people into tamil land.this happened during 1200ad.
sanskrit is the oldest language in the world, vedas were written in sanskrit,sanskrit is the language of gods,ramayana has the history of 8000 years and ravana composed songs in sanskrit on lord shiva
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1915 Jan 30, 2014
The tamils cholas names are in tamil such as ellalan,illamcetcenni,karikala n,nendunkilli,kopperuncholan,k ocengannan,perunnarkilli, the andhra king vijayalaya its a pure telugu name and the andhra kings merged with cholas and maried the cholas princess,the telugu cholas are aditya,parantaka,sundhara,raja raja,rajendra,vikrama are pure telugu names and still in use in ap
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1916 Jan 30, 2014
Temples in tamilnadu were builted by telugu origins and telugu kings such as medieval cholas,pallavas,nayaks and their language is telugu,when they ruled tamilnadu their official language was tamil in wiki, and engraved inscriptions in telugu and tamil on the temple walls of tn,telugu is older than tamil telugu inscriptions found at bhattiprolu that dated back to 500 b.c. Tamil inscriptions dated back to 300 b.c. But for the fact pallavas,mid -cholas,and nayaks are the origin of telugu land and telugu blood by the nature
jacob tirunelveli

Bhavnagar, India

#1917 Jan 30, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> sanskrit is the oldest language in the world, vedas were written in sanskrit,sanskrit is the language of gods,ramayana has the history of 8000 years and ravana composed songs in sanskrit on lord shiva
mr.naveen please give us proof otherwise your claims are useless. telugu king ruled chola empire thats acceptable but that happened after 1200ad. so you cant claim any ancient thing from tamil.please give me proof for ravana composing sanskrit literature. during the period of ravana sanskrit was not even invented. sanskrit is the evil language which stopped the growth of india. please read all literatures by mayan and akathyar. all are scientific invention. akathyar samskrithai is the invention of electricity. i have proof of ancient tamils munivars using copper plated pots to create lights.if you search naam tamilar in facebook there are all proofs. but sanskrit took away all tamil ancient literatures and converted them to sanskrit and hide them from common people. the sanskrit saints on those days were such a fools they dont even understand the scientific inventions written by tamil munivar. if those scientific literatures were understood by people earlier itself now india could hae become they unbeatable super power in the world.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#1918 Jan 31, 2014
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
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mr.naveen please give us proof otherwise your claims are useless. telugu king ruled chola empire thats acceptable but that happened after 1200ad. so you cant claim any ancient thing from tamil.please give me proof for ravana composing sanskrit literature. during the period of ravana sanskrit was not even invented. sanskrit is the evil language which stopped the growth of india. please read all literatures by mayan and akathyar. all are scientific invention. akathyar samskrithai is the invention of electricity. i have proof of ancient tamils munivars using copper plated pots to create lights.if you search naam tamilar in facebook there are all proofs. but sanskrit took away all tamil ancient literatures and converted them to sanskrit and hide them from common people. the sanskrit saints on those days were such a fools they dont even understand the scientific inventions written by tamil munivar. if those scientific literatures were understood by people earlier itself now india could hae become they unbeatable super power in the world.
lol....dont compare the great sanskrit with ugly tamil,did u ever listen sanskrit? U christian claiming for hindu temples and cultures

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