Which is the Oldest Indian Language? Sanskrit Vs Tamil

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Prabakaran born in a hardcore hindu saivite family...since he named his first charles antony(named after late ltte field marshall) he is seen as a christian leader...but in reality his another son's name is balachandran(krishna) and his daughter's name is dwaraka...prabhakaran is a big devotee of krishna and had belief in bhagavad gita...but everything went against him...dravidian parties imposed aryan-dravidian theory in srilankan issue also separated srilankan tamils and indians...but prabhakaran doesnt hate india and the chinese come to srilanka only after prabhakaran died...nobody can save india from china since chinese well placed in srilanka and their first target will be kudankulam and it would never happened if prabhakaran is there...prabakaran very much inspired by the activities of nethaji...he never seen nethaji as an aryan but indian...many tamils beleive as if though nethaji reincarnated as prabhakaran since his activities similar to nethaji...when rajiv gandhi was murdered many congress leaders,mlas,mps,ministers,off icers were not with him because the plan to kill him was well known among them but rajiv dont know...4 days before the sriperumbudur bomb blast rajiv gandhi warned usa's intervention in kuwait...but these matters doesnt taken into account in rajiv gandhi murder case...cia,kashmir jihadis,sonia gandhi,subramania swamy,karunanithi are all to be accused but at the end everything pointed prabhakaran...prabhakaran in one of his interview denied his part in rajiv's death and his face went sad when asked about rajiv's death...a picture showing many sinhala soldiers beating rajiv in colombo airport is available show sinhalese's brutal face but facist sonia gandhi never seen him as a husband joint hands with sinhala who beaten rajiv gandhi killed srlankan tamils to hide her deadliest face...
Sir, Just for Knowing, then how come nalini, Murugan and few who were caught in Rajeev's Assasination, agreed that they were from LTTE.
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I will agree you can kill pabakaran, But how dare showing racism in killing 150000 tamil peoples. Surely God will kill the peoples who supported to kill Srilankan tamils. I think this is what happened in Kedarnath killing more than 3000 peoples. God will soon tally it.
Hey, Please do not introduce the Racism into this block. infact it hurts many.

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Sir, Just for Knowing, then how come nalini, Murugan and few who were caught in Rajeev's Assasination, agreed that they were from LTTE.
i think they may have left ltte organisation...but may have used ltte's name for rajiv's assasination and it is not sure if they accepted or forced to accept...the case is not ...prabhakaran had never hate india as well as tamils in tamilnadu...and he knows if bomb will blasts to kill rajiv ,tamils will also die along with rajiv then how he will plan to kill his own brothers...how still millions of tamils in tamilnadu as well as srilanka treat him as leader?...how come marathi bjp leader ashish shelar opposed the film madras cafe? many north indian leaders supported llte movement they never seen ltte as a terrorist organisation...till the last moment in his life time he expected bjp to win so that they will come to stop srilankan's attack on tamil civilians
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<quoted text> I don't know whether Ramayana and Mahabharata are imaginary or not but what you wrote is completely imaginary. There satellite pictures of Ramsethu. And also evidences of dwarika city. Srilanka and Indian Govt has set up a project to build bridge on it and also adding to your knowledge you can google a documentary done by history channel on atomic usage in Mahabharata. Alright even if it is a story or imagination then also it is a great work. There is no character in Ramayana or Mahabharata which you can't find in real life. Now you say that Veda was in Tamil and copied to Sanskrit. Where is the Tamil Veda.? Shiva is sense and linga is senseless. In what sense you are saying this. Do you even know meaning of Shiva. Shav is deadbody in Sanskrit the ei tatva is life Shiva is life. And a great poet in Hindi vinobhacharya explained in beautiful way even he is god of destruction then why he is worshiped , because anything New have to come then it has to destroy. A rose is beautiful because it will bloom in spring but if is there for ever then its beauty is lost that is why end is imp. And in Gita also death is described as a beautiful lady. Which relieves you from everything. Similarly Vishnu means vishistha+anu. Vishistha means special and anu means atom. So it is special atom. You know Hinduism not only tell about heaven and hell but it is much scientific and deep. Atom (anu) was already discovered by Indian sages. Gita is also was in Tamil. Please justify what you say. Now my answer to your temple things are that in Tamilnadu Tamil kings equaly encouraged Sanskrit . Regarding inscriptions Halebeedu temple I found inscriptions in Sanskrit and old Kannada. In North also many old temples like somnath temple has shloka written in Sanskrit. Padamnabh swami temple also have inscription in Sanskrit and even Egyptians built Pyramids a without the mathematics. Which is also much more older. Visit Jantar Mantra in Jaipur and Delhi you will find yantras to calculate position of planets older days. So my dear friend justify Wat you say with evidences. Simply to quote I can also say Tamil is old Aramic. And Google who discovered zero, decimal etc. Please analyze facts properly.
Dear Shruthi Sister, Its unbelievable that Ravana used Aeroplane to Kidnap Seetha and Hanuman jumped from India to Srilanka.the epics were written based on the location.Actually there was the land which connects India and Srilanka which was used as the bridge constructed by Rama. you said there is no Tamil Vedha.Yes its true but the Culture and doctrine of tamil which transformed to Vedha and Documented like Traditional Medicines used by tamils converted to Ayurvedha.good eg for this is "Bodhidharma the third son of a Tamil Pallava king from Kanchipuram was sent to china to cure the POX disease.And when comparing to Jantar Mantar Similarly there is Poretry in Tamil sometimes in the BC which compares the "single Tamil Warrior fighting with the Enemies like the SUN which Manages the Nine Planets" So no doubt that Sun & planets were discovered earlier to the Jantar Mantar. it is true that Ancient Aramaic and Tamil lang has very close relationship. still Even today the languages spoken in many african countries are derived from Tamil. Many places from Africa are derived from tamil for eg., CYPRUS derived from seppu meaning copper, Cyprus has abundant of copper... Caspian Sea derived from tamil word casappu meaning bitter taste...the water from caspian sea tastes bitter... Sudan Derived from Tamil word Sudana-idam or Pagudhi meaning hottest place and sudan is considered to be one of the hottest place in the world. Also research indicates that Tamils originated from Africa 80,000 years ago.
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<quoted text> I don't know whether Ramayana and Mahabharata are imaginary or not but what you wrote is completely imaginary. There satellite pictures of Ramsethu. And also evidences of dwarika city. Srilanka and Indian Govt has set up a project to build bridge on it and also adding to your knowledge you can google a documentary done by history channel on atomic usage in Mahabharata. Alright even if it is a story or imagination then also it is a great work. There is no character in Ramayana or Mahabharata which you can't find in real life. Now you say that Veda was in Tamil and copied to Sanskrit. Where is the Tamil Veda.? Shiva is sense and linga is senseless. In what sense you are saying this. Do you even know meaning of Shiva. Shav is deadbody in Sanskrit the ei tatva is life Shiva is life. And a great poet in Hindi vinobhacharya explained in beautiful way even he is god of destruction then why he is worshiped , because anything New have to come then it has to destroy. A rose is beautiful because it will bloom in spring but if is there for ever then its beauty is lost that is why end is imp. And in Gita also death is described as a beautiful lady. Which relieves you from everything. Similarly Vishnu means vishistha+anu. Vishistha means special and anu means atom. So it is special atom. You know Hinduism not only tell about heaven and hell but it is much scientific and deep. Atom (anu) was already discovered by Indian sages. Gita is also was in Tamil. Please justify what you say. Now my answer to your temple things are that in Tamilnadu Tamil kings equaly encouraged Sanskrit . Regarding inscriptions Halebeedu temple I found inscriptions in Sanskrit and old Kannada. In North also many old temples like somnath temple has shloka written in Sanskrit. Padamnabh swami temple also have inscription in Sanskrit and even Egyptians built Pyramids a without the mathematics. Which is also much more older. Visit Jantar Mantra in Jaipur and Delhi you will find yantras to calculate position of planets older days. So my dear friend justify Wat you say with evidences. Simply to quote I can also say Tamil is old Aramic. And Google who discovered zero, decimal etc. Please analyze facts properly.
Dear Shruthi, You cannot argue that Without Mathamatical calculations the Huge temples cannot be constructed in the Perfect Manner.
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Dear Shruthi Sister, Its unbelievable that Ravana used Aeroplane to Kidnap Seetha and Hanuman jumped from India to Srilanka.the epics were written based on the location.Actually there was the land which connects India and Srilanka which was used as the bridge constructed by Rama. you said there is no Tamil Vedha.Yes its true but the Culture and doctrine of tamil which transformed to Vedha and Documented like Traditional Medicines used by tamils converted to Ayurvedha.good eg for this is "Bodhidharma the third son of a Tamil Pallava king from Kanchipuram was sent to china to cure the POX disease.And when comparing to Jantar Mantar Similarly there is Poretry in Tamil sometimes in the BC which compares the "single Tamil Warrior fighting with the Enemies like the SUN which Manages the Nine Planets" So no doubt that Sun & planets were discovered earlier to the Jantar Mantar. it is true that Ancient Aramaic and Tamil lang has very close relationship. still Even today the languages spoken in many african countries are derived from Tamil. Many places from Africa are derived from tamil for eg., CYPRUS derived from seppu meaning copper, Cyprus has abundant of copper... Caspian Sea derived from tamil word casappu meaning bitter taste...the water from caspian sea tastes bitter... Sudan Derived from Tamil word Sudana-idam or Pagudhi meaning hottest place and sudan is considered to be one of the hottest place in the world. Also research indicates that Tamils originated from Africa 80,000 years ago.
I know it sounds odd when hear some of the things in Mahabharata. For example, Gandhari had 101 kids. So is it possible a human lady to birth 101 kids. Sounds really odd but if 250 years back if you would have told somebody that one day man will be able to fly like birds. Would somebody believed you. I am sure no. But it was not. There is a difference between simply denying or ignoring the fact or asking a simple question like is there a possibility which is the mother of all wonders which we see now. So let's come back to Mahabharata ok the Gandhari the princess of Gandhar (kandhar) now in Afghanistan, had 101 kids, as she was blessed by lord Shiva for that. She was pregnant for around 3years and when she delivered it was just a piece of flesh and she was very dissapointed and was about to throw it at that time one rishi came and divided into 101 pieces and put it inside life solution seperatly and the asked her to open it after 2 years and like this she got 101 kids. So now you think is it possible. Why not there is a possibility stem cloning is the science behind it. Actually I read a interview of an scientist where he disscused this thing many years back somewhere in 2002 or something, when they got success in that. Our Vedas described Navgrahas which we worship. but in west it was found so late. And they to admit that. Where Tamil Veda if Vedas are derived from Sanskrit please provide facts if you are saying something. And one more thing there always a possible in impossible. Ignorance is just like a dark room where knowledge is a light to enter but it cannot enter if we don't open the window of possibility.
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Dear Shruthi Sister, Its unbelievable that Ravana used Aeroplane to Kidnap Seetha and Hanuman jumped from India to Srilanka.the epics were written based on the location.Actually there was the land which connects India and Srilanka which was used as the bridge constructed by Rama. you said there is no Tamil Vedha.Yes its true but the Culture and doctrine of tamil which transformed to Vedha and Documented like Traditional Medicines used by tamils converted to Ayurvedha.good eg for this is "Bodhidharma the third son of a Tamil Pallava king from Kanchipuram was sent to china to cure the POX disease.And when comparing to Jantar Mantar Similarly there is Poretry in Tamil sometimes in the BC which compares the "single Tamil Warrior fighting with the Enemies like the SUN which Manages the Nine Planets" So no doubt that Sun & planets were discovered earlier to the Jantar Mantar. it is true that Ancient Aramaic and Tamil lang has very close relationship. still Even today the languages spoken in many african countries are derived from Tamil. Many places from Africa are derived from tamil for eg., CYPRUS derived from seppu meaning copper, Cyprus has abundant of copper... Caspian Sea derived from tamil word casappu meaning bitter taste...the water from caspian sea tastes bitter... Sudan Derived from Tamil word Sudana-idam or Pagudhi meaning hottest place and sudan is considered to be one of the hottest place in the world. Also research indicates that Tamils originated from Africa 80,000 years ago.
One more thing hangar mantra is a museum not any kind of discovery where yantraa to calculate planetary movements and many other interesting yantras are kept to verify geological things which were used by Indians earlier ok. So please understand it properly. Now one more thing it is said pushpak viman of Ravan used to travel at light speed. Whatever you Ramayana and Mahabharata a myth or etc but you cannot deny one fact that is a great creation. And one more thing even if Ravana had aeroplane as you say or not. But one thing I would definitely appreciate is the imagination and believing in imagination cost wright brothers to create aeroplanes. And whatever you say Mahabharata and Ramayana as a story or anything is a great teacher. There is no character in the world which you can not find in these. It is wonderfuly told that how ones own greed, selfishness, jealousy will take them to destruction. And if you want you can watch that documentary by history channel that there are traces of atomic power used in Mahabharata. Just Google it.
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One more thing that jantar mantar is a museum nothing else and there are ancient days yantraa to calculate planetary movements and many other interesting yantras are kept to verify geological things which were used by the ancient Indians.So please understand it properly. Now one more thing it is said pushpak viman of Ravan used to travel at light speed. How they knew lights energy is fastest. Whatever you say Ramayana and Mahabharata are myth or etc but you cannot deny one fact that is a great creation. And one more thing even if Ravana had aeroplane as you say or not. But one thing I would definitely appreciate is the imagination in that which was done at that time and believing in imagination cost wright brothers to create aeroplanes. And whatever you say Mahabharata and Ramayana as a story or anything is a great teacher. There is no character in this world which you can not find in these. It is wonderfuly told that how ones own greed, selfishness, jealousy will take them to destruction. And if you want you can watch that documentary by history channel that there are traces of atomic power used in Mahabharata. Just Google it. It is interesting.

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many people think that sanskrit turned to hindi and devanagari is sanskrit script...but in reality sanskrit doesnt have any script...it always depends on other languages...hindi cant be written in tamil english cant be written tamil, hindi cant be written in tamil but sanskrit can be written in tamil,hindi,english...this is is the difference sanskrit and others so it can never be a spoken language...so if sanskrit never be spoken,written language the only other left is tamil(this is why vanmeeki(valmiki) mentions the spoken language of the people of bharathavarsham was madhura basha (tamil) during ramayana...valmiki even written some verses in tamil's purananooru and the script he used to compose ramayanam is in tamil letters...both rama and ravana was tamil speaking kings...ravana was a master in sama vedam a specialist in playing yaazh(veenai), written many books in tamil...in one of his tamil book arkka prakasam he mentions why every new born child's first word is "amma")...hindi has some sanskrit words doesnt means
sanskrit=hindi, the vowels and
consonants of hindi are actually tamil
words ie.ah,aah,e,eeh,uh,o­
oh,aeh,aaeh,oh,ouh and (ka)-
ka,kha,ga,gha,(sa)-sa-sha,cha, jha,(ta)-
ta,da,(tha)-tha,dha,(pa)-pa,ba ,fa...the
letters in bracket are tamil
consonants which is called as vallina
ezhuthukkal means strong letters
which means the single letter 'ka' can
be used for different sounds ie
ka,kha,ga,gha similarly for sa,ta,tha,pa
and also rha...sanskrit means
modified tamil...so todays hindi is a
language which has tamil's vowels
and consonants with modified tamil
(sanskrit) words...tamil is complete in
southern most india(ie.tamilnadu
and kerala), modified in other south
india(karnataka,andhra) and shrinken
in north india...
eg.raman-rama-ram,krishnan(kan nan-
old tamil,krishnan-modern tamil)-
krishna-krishn,aanandham-aanan dha-
aanand,kumaran-kumara-
kumar,devan-deva-dev,kapilan-k apila-
kapil,vikraman-vikrama-
vikram,varunan-varuna-varun,ar unan-
aruna-arun,kamalanaathan-
kamalanaatha-kamal­
nath,ketharanaathan-ketharanaa thaa-
kedarnath,pathrinaathan-b­
adrinaathaa-badrinath,amaran-a mara-
amar,mahesan-mahesha-mahe­
sh,singham-singha-singh,sirava nan-
sravana-sravan,pirasadham-pras adha-prasad,kalyanam-kalyana-k alyan,vaibhavam-vaibhava-vaibh av,Veeran-veera-veer,thikku vijayam-thik vijaya-thik vijay,gangadharan-gangadhara-g angadhar,madhavan-madhava-madh av,idaiyavan-yadhavan-yadhav,t hileepan-thileepaa-dilip...
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sanskrit is the oldest language in inda.
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tamil is the oldest language in india because there is a thing called ollachudi that is witten in tamil by the great rishes and it was written very back . so this makes sure that tamil is oldestttt.
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many people think that sanskrit turned to hindi and devanagari is sanskrit script...but in reality sanskrit doesnt have any script...it always depends on other languages...hindi cant be written in tamil english cant be written tamil, hindi cant be written in tamil but sanskrit can be written in tamil,hindi,english...this is is the difference sanskrit and others so it can never be a spoken language...so if sanskrit never be spoken,written language the only other left is tamil(this is why vanmeeki(valmiki) mentions the spoken language of the people of bharathavarsham was madhura basha (tamil) during ramayana...valmiki even written some verses in tamil's purananooru and the script he used to compose ramayanam is in tamil letters...both rama and ravana was tamil speaking kings...ravana was a master in sama vedam a specialist in playing yaazh(veenai), written many books in tamil...in one of his tamil book arkka prakasam he mentions why every new born child's first word is "amma")...hindi has some sanskrit words doesnt means
sanskrit=hindi, the vowels and
consonants of hindi are actually tamil
words ie.ah,aah,e,eeh,uh,o­
oh,aeh,aaeh,oh,ouh and (ka)-
ka,kha,ga,gha,(sa)-sa-sha,cha, jha,(ta)-
ta,da,(tha)-tha,dha,(pa)-pa,ba ,fa...the
letters in bracket are tamil
consonants which is called as vallina
ezhuthukkal means strong letters
which means the single letter 'ka' can
be used for different sounds ie
ka,kha,ga,gha similarly for sa,ta,tha,pa
and also rha...sanskrit means
modified tamil...so todays hindi is a
language which has tamil's vowels
and consonants with modified tamil
(sanskrit) words...tamil is complete in
southern most india(ie.tamilnadu
and kerala), modified in other south
india(karnataka,andhra) and shrinken
in north india...
eg.raman-rama-ram,krishnan(kan nan-
old tamil,krishnan-modern tamil)-
krishna-krishn,aanandham-aanan dha-
aanand,kumaran-kumara-
kumar,devan-deva-dev,kapilan-k apila-
kapil,vikraman-vikrama-
vikram,varunan-varuna-varun,ar unan-
aruna-arun,kamalanaathan-
kamalanaatha-kamal­
nath,ketharanaathan-ketharanaa thaa-
kedarnath,pathrinaathan-b­
adrinaathaa-badrinath,amaran-a mara-
amar,mahesan-mahesha-mahe­
sh,singham-singha-singh,sirava nan-
sravana-sravan,pirasadham-pras adha-prasad,kalyanam-kalyana-k alyan,vaibhavam-vaibhava-vaibh av,Veeran-veera-veer,thikku vijayam-thik vijaya-thik vijay,gangadharan-gangadhara-g angadhar,madhavan-madhava-madh av,idaiyavan-yadhavan-yadhav,t hileepan-thileepaa-dilip...
HI, If devnagari is not a script of Sanskrit then for which language devanagari for. Ok now to proove that Tamil had a huge influence of Sanskrit and all the above words are Sanskrit origin. There was a different script invented in Tamil called "Grantha Tamil" to write Sanskrit words in Tamil because Tamil lack some letters which are in Tamil. Pallavas and other kings used it. And Tamil script is developed from Brahmi. Brahmi was the language used during Ashokas reign. Oldest inscriptions of Tamil is in Brahmi. It was introduced by Ashoka to convey his messages to public. And varient of brahmi inscriptions are found in several parts. Even in some caves of Afghanistan. You can read about Grantha Tamil in Wikipedia. I am providing you evidence and also read about Tamil brahmi or brahmi script. But at that time all buddhist books were written in Sanskrit so it proves that books were written in Sanskrit even when Tamil script was being developed. You can checkout in Wikipedia about Grantha Tamil and Brahmi language too.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Everyone keeps arguing that Sanskrit is the oldest language and was created by Lord Shiva himself. But you people forget to remember the fact that origin of Shiva name meaning is from the Tamil word 'sivandha' which means the 'The red one'!!!
Now you can decide which language is the oldest....

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<quoted text> HI, If devnagari is not a script of Sanskrit then for which language devanagari for. Ok now to proove that Tamil had a huge influence of Sanskrit and all the above words are Sanskrit origin. There was a different script invented in Tamil called "Grantha Tamil" to write Sanskrit words in Tamil because Tamil lack some letters which are in Tamil. Pallavas and other kings used it. And Tamil script is developed from Brahmi. Brahmi was the language used during Ashokas reign. Oldest inscriptions of Tamil is in Brahmi. It was introduced by Ashoka to convey his messages to public. And varient of brahmi inscriptions are found in several parts. Even in some caves of Afghanistan. You can read about Grantha Tamil in Wikipedia. I am providing you evidence and also read about Tamil brahmi or brahmi script. But at that time all buddhist books were written in Sanskrit so it proves that books were written in Sanskrit even when Tamil script was being developed. You can checkout in Wikipedia about Grantha Tamil and Brahmi language too.
grantha letters were not only used to
write sanskrit in tamil script...grantha
letters were later addition to tamil
letters...but the sounds
ha,sha,ja,ksha were already in use
but in written form ha will be written
as ah,ka sha,ja,ksha will be in sa, and
ksha is written in itcha in some
areas...so even though grantha
letters sounds were written in normal
tamil ancient tamils know difference
between normal tamil letters and
grantha letters...for example
agathiyar's name is written in
agathiyar in tamil but during his
time when any body lived they would
have call him as "agastya" so grantha
letter sounds already there but it is
still mentioned in normal letters...for
a native tamilan it is easy for him to
differentiate grantha scripts and
normal tamil letters even though it is
written in normal letters...vishnu is
written as vittunu(without grantha
script) but it will be prounced as
vishnu through mouth...for example
take the letter "caption"...since tion
is used we should prounounce it as
captiyan but instead we prounce as
capshan...hrishikeshan is written
using grantha script in tamil but
before its use the word irudikesan
(aazhwars used this in nalayira diviya
prapandham even though grantha
script is used)is used..hri-iru, shi-di,
sha-sa...so the use of grantha script
doesnt mean that sanskrit is
introduced to tamil BUT TO MAKE THE SANSKRIT WRITINGS IN TAMIL SCRIPT UNDERSTANDABLE...agathiyar wrote tamil books like agathiyam(grammer for tamil which was destroyed by him itself when he found his student tholkappian's grammer is a better one), agathiyar 1200(siddha medicine that includes even surgery),prabanja khandam(a study about planets,stars,galaxies,galaxy clusters in universe) and also sanskrit book agathiya samkithai(making of electric power from hydrogen and water ie mithra-varuna sakthi) here samkithai is used in old tamil script but after grantha script used sam"ki"thai turns to sam"hi"thai...same way a book called vimana saathiram(making of space crafts) is used by ancient tamils after grantha letters introduction it is called as vimana sa"s"thiram...brahmi is a type of script used to understand tamil easier for eg a person whose mother tongue is prakirutham can learn tamil easier using brahmi...but tamil's root words are not from brahmi script because brahmi script doesnt have 12 soul letters or vowels(uyirezhuthukkal)...vatt ezhuthu(rounded letter) script is more older than brahmi...

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there is a misbeleif among tamils that
ramayana,and mahabharatha are just
myths. because of the brainwashing dravidian politics..but in reality it is the history of three
tamil dynasties, the solar(cholar)
dynasty related to ramayanam and
lunar(pandiyar)dynasty, agni(cherar-
pallavar) dynasty related to
mahabharatham...the copper plates
unearthed from thiruvalankadu
temple shows the chola ancestory
from sun to the cholas of kaliyuga
period eg karikalan(who built the
world's oldest dam kallanai surviving
till today)..when rama ruled
ayothiyapatinam(ayodhya) his relation
dharma varman ruled uraiyoor
(present trichy)...pururuvas(­
purooruvan' generations)-ikshavagus
(itchavaagu's generations) rivalry is
actually the fight between pandiyas
and cholas continued till
kaliyuga...tholkappiam mentions the
fighting techniques used by tamil
kings in warfare some of those were aanirai
kavarthal(aa-cow,aanirai-
cattle,kavardhal-capturing) and
aanirai meettal(meettal-restoring)
...aanirai kavardhal(a king will
capture the cattle field of his rivalry
king inorder to challenge him to come
to fight)...aanirai meettal(the king
who losts the cattle field accepts the
challenge comes to fight till death
restores the cattle field...result of
this war is either the king will die or
he will restores the cattle field since
cow is considered as a precious one)
...similar incident comes in
mahabharatham also...once keechaka
or kichaka of matsya kingdom(one of the pandyan kingdom matsya-fish)was killed by
bheema(chera)... duryodhana(chera)
decides to attack virata kingdom in
the absence of keechakan(unknowingl­
y keechaka was killed by bheema) so
he captures the cattle field(aanirai
kavardhal) of viradan in the border of matsya country(present kodumudi)
...so viradan(pandiyan) send his son uththara
kumaran to restore cattle field,arjuna
(reason behind chera's bow arrow
flag) the charioter of
uththarakumaran helps him in the war
and uththarakumaran defeats
kauravas and restores the cattle field
(aanirai meettal)...mahabharatha
kings marriage relations wouldbe
mostly between pandiyans and
cheras...krishna's(pandiyan of
madurai and kavadapuram ie dwaraka) sister subhadrai and
durupadhan's(pandiyan of
panchalankurichi) daughter panchali
marrys arjuna(chera)...uththaran's
(pandiyan of kodumudi) sister marrys
abhimanyu(chera)...vaanan's(ch eran) daughter ushai marrys aniruththan(pandyan) the grandson of krishna....
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did you understand what Iam saying, please check laws. when a river lowing through other states or other country it has to be shared, even pakistan sharing water, india sharing water wit China. So if we are separate nation also you will be under pressure to give. even china decided to change the route of brahmaputra, but they dropped because of pressure that a water goes to different countries should not be touched like that.
Have you got it now.
dont touch on my humanity. If Iam a kannadan I will give water. Because water is most for those who are dying than who requires water for bathing.
Have you got it.
Ok tell me whether id you compromise that kannadan not giving water is correct or not.
then only there is meaning to chat with you.
If you are also one among with that foolish people. then sorry I will disconnect chat.
Because you will tell stopping water and prayer for rain water or Tamil people also a humanism. Then who is scolding the people who are doing wrong things is not a humanism.
We met war with pakistan and china.
No body will tell that Vajpayee done war with mushraff, Only india Vs pakistan.
Same way if any of your worst peoples comes to streets ato block water, then whole kannadan is worst people.
Try to educate them to share water.
Previously our older lady king laid war on Bangalore to get water.
thi could happen again.
Bala ..you are an educated illiterate from TN. You are one of those terrorists from LTTE who killed so many people in SL. You are a Indian and fight against Indian govt for the rights of non-indians living in SL. actually entire Tamils from TN are Tamils first and Indians later. This is how they are fed. They kill Indian PM for the sake of non-indians. Why should we stand against Lanka when it is an Ally to India. Lanka never attacked India. going against Lanka is giving China control over Indian Ocean and risking Indian lives for no reason. These fellas from TN are not worried about Indians , all they want is lives of Non-Indians residing in Lanka and expect India to support them,. Why? Pakistanis attack the integreity of India, Lanka never does that...it is Lanka's Internal Matter...India is not UN to handle this. Lankan Tamils are Lankans and not Indians. Tamil nadu should be declared a new country as you said or All of you should be sent to your brothers in Lanka and your nationality to be changed to Lankans ... Indian govt is there to support Indians all over the world and not non-Indians. Tamils in India are threat to India's Integrity. They should be declared a new country as soon as possible. a country of Black terrorists as in Congo etc. Prabhakaran too got what he deserved. Once travelling in tamilnadu I saw people worshipping that terror head prabhakaran and left me shocked :D
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brahmins are aryans who are illiterate and they invaded india. they created sanskrit. ok. tamil is the oldest language in this whole world. ok. brahmins are persians. brahmins are not hindus. brahmins bought sanskrit to india. brahmins are not indians. brahmins are refugees from persians who made entry into hindu culture and introduced caste system so that they can be the top most caste in hindu culture to rule the hindu cultured people. brahmins are cunning fellows . they should be eradicated from india. then only TRUE indian history and TRUE tamil history will come out. tamil is the oldest living language in this world.
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RAJESH KALKI wrote:
brahmins are aryans who are illiterate and they invaded india. they created sanskrit. ok. tamil is the oldest language in this whole world. ok. brahmins are persians. brahmins are not hindus. brahmins bought sanskrit to india. brahmins are not indians. brahmins are refugees from persians who made entry into hindu culture and introduced caste system so that they can be the top most caste in hindu culture to rule the hindu cultured people. brahmins are cunning fellows . they should be eradicated from india. then only TRUE indian history and TRUE tamil history will come out. tamil is the oldest living language in this world.

For your information the word hindu itself is given by Persians.When Persians came India they indicated people who reside at Sindhu river bank.Since the persians cannot pronounce the letter "S" it became hindu. If you read vedas or any puranas or ramayana or Mahabhartaha. You will not find the word hindu. And FYI, sanskrit is the base of Hinduism. All our granthas and books are in sanskrit. No where in the world Aryan invasion theory is supported. Recent studies and reports doesn't approve this.I am posting the latest study done and it was published in times of India too.
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This Aryan invasion theory has given this world bad memories of 2nd world war and still it is showing its effect like bomb blast of Hiroshima and Nagaski.Kids are still being born with defects.
Sad that educated people like us are so driven by ours differences that we forget basics of everything. We are fight for language, religion, caste etc. But what is a language? It is just a sound. In more practically when Tamils need water they ask for tanni and when Bengalis speak they say "jal". Funny thing is that it is not important what I speak but important is in which tongue I speak. Suppose I speak bad in tamil and good in sanskrit. Which one is good for you? Only the good heart right!. The first language which no community has created, is human emotions. Everybody laughs when they are happy and everybody cries when they are sad you don't need any language for that explain. So lets respect the human emotions first than the language. Lets take care that our words are not hurting each other. Goodnyt. Happy Durgashtami to all.
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An inter-continental research in cellular molecular biology has debunked the Aryan invasion theory. This is a major setback to the advocates of the 'Aryan Invasion' theory and the elements who used and using the propaganda of Aryan-Dravidian conflict for the division through confusion in the Indian social psyche.The so called Aryan Dravidian Theory which used for ‘Divide and Convert’ policy has been exposed by this fresh Genetic research conducted by the The American Society of Human Genetics.The research,‘Shared and Unique Components of Human Population Structure and Genome-Wide Signals of Positive Selection in South Asia’ is conducted by a team of 15 scientists which includes four Indian scientists. The findings of a three-year has been published by American Journal of Human Genetics in its issue dated December 9.
“We have proved that people all over India have common genetic traits and origin. All Indians have the same DNA structure. No foreign genes or DNA has entered the Indian mainstream in the last 60,000 years,”.Dr Chaubey had proved in 2009 itself that the Aryan invasion theory is garbage.“That was based on low resolution genetic markers. This time we have used autosomes, which mean all major 23 chromosomes, for our studies. The decoding of human genome and other advances in this area help us in unraveling the ancestry in 60,000 years,” he explained.Interestingly, the team found that instead of Aryan invasion, it was Indians who moved from the subcontinent to Europe.“That’s the reason behind the findings of the same genetic traits in Eurasiain regions,” said Dr Thangaraj, senior scientist, CCMB.“Africans came to India through Central Asia during 80,000 to 60,000 BCE and they moved to Europe sometime around 30,000 BCE.The Indian Vedic literature and the epics are all silent about the Aryan-Dravidian conflict,” said Dr S Kalyanaraman, a proponent of the Saraswati civilization which developed along the banks of the now invisible River Saraswati.The report states that, some heuristic interpretations of the ancestry proportions palette in terms of past migrations seem too obvious to be ignored. For example, it was first suggested by the German Orientalist Max Müller that ca. 3,500 years ago a dramatic migration of Indo-European speakers from Central Asia (the putative Indo Aryan migration) played a key role in shaping contemporary South Asian populations and was responsible for the introduction of the Indo-European language family and the caste system in India. Thus, the report totally denies most sham Aryan Invasion Theory which was advocated by the British rulers, Christian Missionaries and contemporary South Indian Political parties and ideologues.However, the research has identified a cline of Indian populations toward Europe with no corresponding cline within the Europeans.Michel Danino, in his ‘The Invasion That Never Was’ has already stated that “Since the nineteenth century, India's ancient history from Vedic times and the true content of the Veda have both been distorted by a blinkered and unsympathetic scholarship. British rulers, European scholars and missionaries combined in a campaign to disparage the roots of Indian civilization, and used the wholly groundless Aryan Invasion theory to sow seeds of division in the Indian society - "divide and rule," But also "divide and convert." The same fallacies continue to be promoted today.”Danino further comments that, unfortunately, many of the wounds the Aryan invasion theory inflicted on Indian society are still painfully open today, nurtured as they have been by missionaries, Marxist historians and politicians,who together have made sure that divisions between castes have been sharpening rather than subsiding.

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