Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Rakesh

Hyderabad, India

#1481 Sep 17, 2013
tamil was derived from kannada before kannada and old tamil it was kandamilu which seperated into kannada and tamil only for the reson that tamilins love there language most you can find the many net site that saying tamil was older language actul mater tamil was not the present indias lang it language born in kandalan kulam which has gone under indian occean those people who migrated that time to india and language mixed with prakrith and kannada then after it became kandamilu old tamil and tamil which is now use in the world
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1482 Sep 17, 2013
^language mixed with prakrith and kannada then after it became kandamilu old tamil and tamil which is now use in the world ^

Can you give some evidence for the time line either though literature or otherwise any archeological findings.Also try to give pure Kannada words eliminating Tamil and Sanskrit words.Unfortunately Google do not show any search results for Kandamilu
karthik

Bangalore, India

#1483 Sep 18, 2013
tamil
Rishi

Mumbai, India

#1484 Sep 19, 2013
Mcm wrote:
Tamil is the original Indian language. Sanskrit not a Deva Bhasha, it is Only A "VEDA BHASHA". and Sanskrit is only a intermixed form of ancient europian's language an Dravidian language. Europian syntax and dravidian syntax are entirely different. All Indian Languages use Dravidian syntax. Malayalam and Tamil are interrelated dravidian languages.
MCM... Tamil is the original Indian language & Aryans came to India & were not native Indians, Sanskrit only intermixed form of ancient European language ... This is not 19th & 20th century where such quakery & foolishness of westerners ( entrenched in Church propaganda ) were listened to and taken as Gospel of Truth... Welcome to 21st centuary, world over scholars, historians and archaeologist and unanimously accepted that Aryans were in fact native Indians who migrated every where in the world including Europe & not the other way around. Quite frankly while India was thriving with its Vedic culture in beautiful & advanced cities at the time Europe was in caves...

Among many Western fools; who propagated this concocted Aryan went to India & setteled & wern't natives Indians and rig veda is the oldest & only 2000 yrs old concoction, Max Muller amoung them was an idiot of the first order and in his dying years accepted his foolery with Indian History, rich culture and Vedas in candid repentful admissions on several occasions. India today has more than 400 surviving local languages. In 1960's it had more than a thousand...

Tamil was & is indian language but not even close to being as ancient, sacred,integral & imp as Sanskrit... which is Deva / Veda language also of Rishi's & scholars... of India.
God

India

#1485 Sep 19, 2013
Thrivikraman wrote:
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which god you are talking about sivan? sathaasivan? paramasivan? or just shiva itself?
Only one god I heard in my life among mentioned above i.e. shiva...who are the others? I know Santosh Sivan.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1486 Sep 19, 2013
Rishi wrote:
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MCM... Tamil is the original Indian language & Aryans came to India & were not native Indians, Sanskrit only intermixed form of ancient European language ... This is not 19th & 20th century where such quakery & foolishness of westerners ( entrenched in Church propaganda ) were listened to and taken as Gospel of Truth... Welcome to 21st centuary, world over scholars, historians and archaeologist and unanimously accepted that Aryans were in fact native Indians who migrated every where in the world including Europe & not the other way around. Quite frankly while India was thriving with its Vedic culture in beautiful & advanced cities at the time Europe was in caves...
Among many Western fools; who propagated this concocted Aryan went to India & setteled & wern't natives Indians and rig veda is the oldest & only 2000 yrs old concoction, Max Muller amoung them was an idiot of the first order and in his dying years accepted his foolery with Indian History, rich culture and Vedas in candid repentful admissions on several occasions. India today has more than 400 surviving local languages. In 1960's it had more than a thousand...
Tamil was & is indian language but not even close to being as ancient, sacred,integral & imp as Sanskrit... which is Deva / Veda language also of Rishi's & scholars... of India.
200 Years false and distorted history can be erased only if we build constructive arguments maitainig dignity of words..Quote source references for the people to understand the truth.
Muller was not an idiot but faithful servant of East India company and had hidden agenda to destroy Indian Antiquity..Later ,at the fag end of his life accepted his false propaganda.But Westerners and vested interests still carry his Theory and Time lines.
Shiva

Bangalore, India

#1487 Sep 19, 2013
The languages of India are divided into two large groups, the Indo-Aryan languages and the Dravidian languages.

sanskrit was the languages spoken by Ariyan who invaded India by Kyber-pass.
Dravidian is the Originated language from South India by the kingdoms of Chera, Chola & Pandiya's & Sri lanka, there was huge continent called kumarikandam was sunked in sea due to this, there was no proof to prove to tamil is the oldest language.

Also you can see The cambodia temples was build by a Tamil King Pallava and Malaysia, Singapore, Mauritius, South Africa, Australia, With 77 million population speaking tamil, since it was a part of Kumarikandam.

People dont compare tamil & sanskrit. Both are different.

You can think In tamil and other language uses sanskrit words because the Tamil areas in mainland India became a part of British India. In Sri Lanka, the Tamil areas was under the control of Portuguese, Dutch and later British.This situation completely eradicated the political notion of Tamils and reduced them to a minority status under political model implemented by British on their process of liberating their colonies They &#8203;&#8203;were active in the freedom movement of India and other countries. After Independence, they &#8203;&#8203;became citizens of India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia and other former colonies. Independent of their religion, caste and country, most Tamils &#8203;&#8203;follow the ideology of Tamil Nationalism characterized by the patriotism to the Tamil language, culture and desire for an independent Tamil state.
Michael Wood referred the Tamils as the last surviving classical civilisation on Earth.
rahul

Warangal, India

#1488 Sep 20, 2013
my dear friend kannada is derived from tamil only. not only kannada, telugu and malayalam are also from tamil only.if u prove me kannada is oldest than tamil i l give u 1 lakh rupees.
anonyamous

Bangalore, India

#1489 Sep 21, 2013
alaghu pandian wrote:
tamil is oldest language
poda mayire
anonyamous

Bangalore, India

#1490 Sep 21, 2013
mudaliyar poda mayire
anonyamous

Bangalore, India

#1491 Sep 21, 2013
Rishi if you practically think there is no Aryan race itself.It is created at the time World war II by Germans.
anonyamous

Bangalore, India

#1492 Sep 21, 2013
Kannada, has the oldest inscripts (Nishadi) from the Proto-Old Kannada days. Also the oldest Tamil inscription dating back to 350BC has generous Kannada words (refer the scholar Iravatham Mahadevan). So in all essence of the oldest language, Sanskrit certainly is. Of the oldest spoken languages in India, Kannada and not Tamil takes the crown
anonyamous

Bangalore, India

#1493 Sep 21, 2013
Whatever Mr.Shiva you Tamilians were able to survive till now only because of migration to regions.YOu people migrated to other countries coz ur own land wasnt supporting you,the enviornment,scarcity of water etc etc.You people should be thankful Karnataka coz its still feeding you guys.You guys need water for you and your family at Karnataka and water at Tamilnadu for your parents.eitherway you want water from Karnataka Only.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1494 Sep 21, 2013
Anonymous , It is unfortunate that you cannot maintain dignity and get into Aryan and State issues.I wonder why Tamil got Classical status first.Topic is clear whether Sanskrit or Tamil. It is not enough to quote inscriptions only, one need lot more evidences to claim antiquity.If you go through my earlier comments you will understand better.True Kannada and Telugu had their time for centuries but got corrupted with Sankrit more ? and literatures started appearing very late. Grammar by Agasthyar(lost completely) and Only Tholkappiam survived !!! Now that Kannada also included as classical by compromising from 2000 years to 1500 years antiquity. This is my understanding . I will correct if this forum disagrees. 100 years before a renowned South Indian Historian considered Kannada as a sister to Tamil. But proto Tamil, Damily etc are the root for all South Indian Language.Again we are diverting the issue from Tamil or Sanskrit. I agree I am a late starter to join this debate.As such I understand with little study done so for that Indian history is distorted and less said is better for South Indian contribution . As for as script is considered , I was surprised to read that Panini Grammar was not written in Sanskrit!!!!
ABEL JACOB

Kottayam, India

#1495 Sep 22, 2013
no need of worries.It is tamil,the purest and oldest
indian language.theres no doubt in it.Okay.
ABEL JACOB

Kottayam, India

#1496 Sep 22, 2013
hi again. i can tell you how tamil became the oldest
indian language.See,most of the languages found in india are derived from tamil.
EG:malyalam,the language of kerala,is mostly derived from tamil.you see=ennethe in tamilure of
endua in malayalam got it.But some languages like hindi and urdu came from
hindi=sanskrit.
urdu=A mixture of both persian and hindi.okay.

Since: Aug 13

Ashburn, VA

#1497 Sep 22, 2013
God wrote:
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Only one god I heard in my life among mentioned above i.e. shiva...who are the others? I know Santosh Sivan.
sivan is often confused just with the rig vedic god rudra and there is a wrong belief that rudra was created from brahma...sivan is always seen as a destroyer in hinduism...i have seen in many facebook debates bw north indian hindus and muslims, whenever the muslims ask "if hinduism has different gods with different forms why in yajur veda it is mentiined as god has no form" the hindus struggled to answer this...am sure none of north or south indian hindus can answer this except a tamilan...to know each and every meaning of vedas one should know tamil...a tamil siththar thirumoolar( http://www.siththarkal.info/2012/03/thirumool... ) in his thirumanthiram mentioned paramasivan has three forms aruvam(formless-sivam), aru uruvam(have a form but no definite shape-lingam), uruvam(have a definite form -brahma,vishnu,rudra,maheswara ,sadasiva)...usually sivan is worshipped as lingam form...lin means to absorb and gam means to emit the one which is absorbed...sivan takes five forms brahma(creator), vishnu(preserver),rudra(destro yer),maheswara(concealer),9sad asiva(revealer)...when his mission over entire universe will be destroyed and hide by maheswara(lin-absorbed inside) and go to formless state ...then again from formless state he comes to form state by revealing the one which was hide ie by sadasiva(gam-emitting the one which was absorbed)...lingam is a combination of two shapes the upper indefinite part denotes the space and lower part called as aavudaiyar(aah-god , udaiyaar-carrying) denotes the planetary or earthly objects...but it was mistakenly taken as the upper part is male human organ and lower part is female human organ...when god is not only creating human but responsible for all other organisms how come he is worshipped in male,female organ form...these confusions occured among north indians when the tamils migrated towards north forgotten the pazhanthamil(oldest grammatical tamil) started speeking kodunthamil(non grammatical tamil which is related to todays spoken tamil) then transformed to apa brahmsa then prakrit,bali and later the present north indian languages like awadhi,marwari,haryanvi,bhojpu ri,rajasthani,mythili...a common name "pasupathi"(pashupat i) is used to denote sivan in tamil ...pasu-cow, pati-owner,pasam-rope...pasu is jeevatma and pati is paramatma(paramasivan) and pasam denotes the material universe or the illusion...when a cow unties its rope it will comes to the owner same way if a jeevatma by its own yogic practice(raising kundalini sakthi to thuriyam or sahasrara chakra) comes out of material universe or illusion reaches paramatma which will have liberation from birth and death life cycle merge with the formless paramasivan...but again because of language gap mistakenly taken as pashupati means a god of animals...
muthu

Chennai, India

#1499 Sep 25, 2013
According to wikipedia
As a Dravidian language, Tamil descends from Proto-Dravidian. Linguistic reconstruction suggests that Proto-Dravidian was spoken around the third millennium BC, possibly in the region around the lower Godavari river basin in peninsular India. The material evidence suggests that the speakers of Proto-Dravidian were the culture associated with the Neolithic complexes of South India.[42] The next phase in the reconstructed proto-history of Tamil is Proto-South Dravidian. The linguistic evidence suggests that Proto-South Dravidian was spoken around the middle of the second millennium BC, and that proto-Tamil emerged around the 3rd century BC. The earliest epigraphic attestations of Tamil are generally taken to have been written shortly thereafter.[43] Among Indian languages, Tamil has the most ancient non-Sanskritised Indian literature.[44] Scholars categorise the attested history of the language into three periods, Old Tamil (300 BC – AD 700), Middle Tamil (700–1600) and Modern Tamil (1600–present).[45]
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1500 Sep 25, 2013
Mr muthu
What about about Sumerians and Akkadians.Tamil and Sankrit fight can be seen their too!!! What is the status of Indus script ?,Their too Proto tamil, Kannada tamil are fighting their too!.Is Brahmi derived from Tamil or Tamil script was derived from Brahmi?
Madhan

Chennai, India

#1501 Sep 25, 2013
Oh man, please give those proofs to these men.
Tamil and Sanskrit are two different languages

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