Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#1408 Aug 5, 2013
Sank wrote:
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Sorry, Tamil borrowed from Kannada.
Sank, It is Proved that Kannada is borrowed from Sanskrit because the script of sanskrit can be used for kannada and all other languages in india. but it cannot be used for Tamizh and Vice versa, this indicates Tamizh and sanskrit are different. However the Tamizh words used in Kannada, Telugu and Malayalam is not included the Sanskrit. Please throw your egoism and Think Broadly.
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#1409 Aug 5, 2013
Sank wrote:
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CHARAN = COCKHEAD
Sank, Its True.
there are Few which you need to take into your Empty Brain.
Onnu which Became One in English
Sarpam became Sarpent
Manidhan became Man
There are some more words which were borrowed not all. And its true. However you are with empty brain please do not grow your generation same as you.
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#1410 Aug 5, 2013
Mcm wrote:
<quoted text> Good, " Many other south Indian languages still preserving actual dravidian words ".not tamil. that is the correct statement.
Hey Mcm, the Pure Drividian Language is Tamil.
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#1411 Aug 5, 2013
Mcm wrote:
<quoted text> It is Not the answer. My statements are True. Dont vomit foolishness. Others will laugh loudly!!!.
You Must give the Perfect Answer. You Agreed that Malayalam is copied or borrowed from sanskrit then how sure that the Malayalam is not borrowed from Tamil.
for example "come here" is "ingae va" and in old tamil its "ivv-idathukku va" and in today's malayalam its "ivvadae va"
prove now. for your info the word Malayalam means Malai - Aal Malai is Mountain and Aal is to Rule. Malayalargal in Tamil indicates the rulers of the mountains / hills. the above is just an example i can prove many like that. Most of my freinds are Malayalese not only the freind they are best and they agree that Tamil Language is the Mother of Malayalam Language. Please agree. and do not give foolish arguements.
Yashee

Kolkata, India

#1412 Aug 5, 2013
Tamil is the oldest my friend..... Sanskrit means "polished" it didnt exist till 1500BC even that.... The vedas were written in prakrit.... Sanskrit is a beautiful language but it isnt the mother of all other languages... 1st show me evidence of sanskrit in the earlier times.... The evidence of Tamil being older than sanskrit is Tolkapiyam (5000BC)
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#1413 Aug 5, 2013
Vivek Nema wrote:
Yes Vedha is right ...
Gandhiji who got us our freedom is from Tamilnadu. India's first Prime Minister J L Nehru is from Tamilnadu, Nobel laureate Hargobind Khorana is from Tamilnadu, discoverer of zero (0) Aryabhatt is from Tamilnadu, to name a few
Mr. Vivek, Please google the below.
1. "Bodhidharman" to be the third son of a Tamil Pallava king from Kanchipuram.
2. Sir C V Raman 3. Siva Ayyadurai 4. Srinivasa Ramanujan
5. A P J Abdul Kalam (you may say that he is a Muslim but he is a Tamil Muslim. Actually Tamils are against the religion and very far from the Religion.
5. Illayaraja 6. A R Rehman and there are famous directors too.
Tamilistheoldest

Lake Munmorah, Australia

#1414 Aug 5, 2013
Both languages are indeed extremely ancient but Tamil seems to be the oldest by far. The meaning of Tamil itself means self speak or one's own speech while the meaning of Sanskrit is polished or refined. This itself demonstrates that Sanskrit just cannot be the oldest and Tamil definitely is older. I don't think we should argue over both languages as they are both something we should be proud of.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1415 Aug 5, 2013
True, we need to be proud of Thamizh and Sankrit.But the problem is Arabs, Greeks, Dutch, Portuguese , French ,Europeans hijacked sacred original Sanskrit manuscripts. Also history was distorted to the extent Indian roots antiquity need to be rewritten.So much trash is being created today that will affect future generations who do not know to read Thamizh or Sankrit and all other regional languages. While Tamizh was embraced by all religions in India, all ancient records were destroyed by the floods.Hence we have to look for other countries for proof.Hence the more constructive arguments for proof are required and sincere interest in knowing the proud history of motherland is necessary as well as the contributions to Tamizh by so many countries are to be brought to common man knowledge. Now I wish to know how Tholkappiam , the Tamizh Grammar^s antiquity can be proved ? Also for Silapathigaram and Manimegali.How do we correct wiki record that three Sangams are only myth and there is no proof. Indiran was worshiped by Tamizh people .Do this give any definte indication of antiquity of Thamizh?
Rithika

Madurai, India

#1417 Aug 6, 2013
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
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dear karuppannan, kumari and kandam are not sanskrit words dont speak anything without knowledge.kumari is virgin in tamil and kandam is continent.the name itself tells you the history of mankind. and tholkaappiyam is a tamil word. thol means old and kappiyam means guarded literature.kaappu-guarded,iyam -literature there is no meaning for kaappiyam in sanskrit. dontwrite whatever you think. understand tamil and then write .your name karuppanan is tamil means black elder brother.sanskrit is a language that was created to cheat others.dont be cheated. love tamil love history
Awesome replay & I am reading all your comments..excellent brother.
Rithika

Madurai, India

#1418 Aug 6, 2013
Mahadeva wrote:
Sanskrit is the oldest living language of India simply because it's all pervasive in modern day Indian languages (even Tamil has borrowed).
Going by the discovered manuscripts and literary works, Rigveda is considered the oldest 1500BC, and hence onceagian Sanskrit takes the crown of Oldest language.
Kannada, has the oldest inscripts (Nishadi) from the Proto-Old Kannada days. Also the oldest Tamil inscription dating back to 350BC has generous Kannada words (refer the scholar Iravatham Mahadevan). So in all essence of the oldest language, Sanskrit certainly is. Of the oldest spoken languages in India, Kannada and not Tamil takes the crown.
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Are you idiot, Sanskrit was no more & it was dead language.

Tamil is oldest language & living forever..... Muddeva
Rithika

Madurai, India

#1419 Aug 6, 2013
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
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Mr.kool in tamilnadu we learn about all history indian,international. but in north india u learn only north indian history. you dont know anything about tamil and its history. if you read history of tamilnadu written by a north indian author, there it will say that tamilnadu is a small village and mumbai is situated near newyork.dont be silly.your language stands nowhere near tamil. you people dont even now to speak sanskrit. but tamil is living since 10000 bc till now. 10000bc is according to the first literature in tamil. but we still dont know the real year tamil was born it may go beyond 10000bc. who said tamils are tribals. take a small example of our railways. noone in north india buys ticket to travel in unreserved class and if the ttr comes to check that he will be killed.recent news say that. but look at tamilnadu everybody even the illiterates buy ticket. now say who are tribals...
They can't replay on this...Excellent...keep it up brother.
Rithika

Madurai, India

#1420 Aug 6, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
What a stupid thread is this? what the opener on this thread trying to convince the other people? Any fool in this world knows Sanskrit is the Oldest Language. Why you try to distort the history? please go back to school or somewhere and learn the history. If you have found new evidences inform that to the Tamil Nadu government. Then the Indian archeologists will examine them and tell to the world. Don't try to boast about something you do not have, because people are not idiots.
Athai nee sollathada.....
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1426 Aug 7, 2013
SORRY, I tried to copy pure tamil words with meaning in English,
let me repeat the same in your method
VAYIL(GATE), PANI(COOL)KAYAM(POND) PALAR(MANY), PAGAL(DAYTIME)
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1427 Aug 7, 2013
Mcm wrote:
(Dravidian words): Njan, nan, nee, ente, ninte, avan, evan, aval, eval, evide, enge, ivide, inge, ath, ith, eth, nammal, nam, oru, thiru, po,va, ba, ra, ungal, ningal, kanav, nimma, per, peyar, hesaru, enth, en, aar, aaru, enu, vann, banth, vanth. Etc.etc.etc. The similarity of words in south indian languages denotes that they originated from a single point and spread all over south india.
Unless you trace origin of the word Dravidian, it will lead to euro centric theory only.We need not get into Dravidian and Aryan theory.As for my study as on date, the word Dravidian is same as Tamilian at one point of time. Sometimes as Tamili, Dramili , proto Tamil etc .Just like the entire south indian history has not been validated by the west, may be we have to identify impartially pure Malayalam , Kannada, and Telugu words to understand the timeline of these languages.No one can dispute the antiquity of tamil literatures, hence any method to bridge the gap for other languages is welcome.At least we know clearly The lineage of Telugu and Kannada kings but with respect to old Malayalam, I am yet to understand the contribution of Chera and Malyalam only speaking kings.Only yesterday I got a clear picture of Pandya and Kerala kingdoms and their contribution in maritime trade with Greeks, Romans, Arabs ,Chinese during first century.Well, I repeat we need constructive arguments without religious , regional and political bias. It is difficult but worth it.
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#1428 Aug 8, 2013
Mcm wrote:
Plz. Say some pure tamil words which are currently in use! Then we can see the level of borrowings.
Mr. MCM, The Pure Tamil Words are used 70 percent in Tamil News and 100 Percent in our Study Syllabus.

Since: Aug 13

Ashburn, VA

#1429 Aug 8, 2013
Mcm wrote:
<quoted text> The name of ur state was madras not tamilnadu.and not even tami"zh"nadu.
Even the english name madras named by british from the thamizh word "Madhuraa"sapattinam ...for thamizhs madhura is the capital this is why this name is found every where...madhurai,thenmadhurai( lemuria),vadamadhurai,madhuraa (UP),maanaamadhurai,"madh uraa"nthagam,"madhur a"vaayal etc...
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#1430 Aug 9, 2013
Thrivikraman wrote:
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Even the english name madras named by british from the thamizh word "Madhuraa"sapattinam ...for thamizhs madhura is the capital this is why this name is found every where...madhurai,thenmadhurai( lemuria),vadamadhurai,madhuraa (UP),maanaamadhurai,"madh uraa"nthagam,"madhur a"vaayal etc...
Also, madura mozhi to Madurai etc. The language maduramozhi spoken by common people during Ramayana period!!!!!!!!. Hanuman spoke to Sita not with Sanskrit but with Maduramozhi!!!!!!

Since: Apr 13

Scappoose, Oregon USA

#1431 Aug 9, 2013
The oldest Indian language was spoken by Native American Indians, specifically the Helarwee tribe in the Pacific Northwest. They were renowned for their particularly poor navigation skills among all the mountains and valleys in the region, so when they were lost they would make their way to the top of the highest ridge of available. They would stand and scan lease guys to the north, then to the east, then to the south, then to the west, and having looked all the way around and still not knowing where they were, he would say... "where the hell are we?" and so that's how the Helarwee tribe got their name.

Since: Aug 13

Ashburn, VA

#1432 Aug 10, 2013
Mudaliar wrote:
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Also, madura mozhi to Madurai etc. The language maduramozhi spoken by common people during Ramayana period!!!!!!!!. Hanuman spoke to Sita not with Sanskrit but with Maduramozhi!!!!!!
valmiki refers hanuman talked to sita in madhura basha...madurai named from madhuram means nectar city...other names of madhuram are amirtham,indhu in tamil...madhura basha in pure tamil is known as "theenthamizh"...
vvs

Jamshedpur, India

#1433 Aug 10, 2013
@muralidharan
Sanskrit is a divine language and ramayana which took place 9500 years ago, conversations and vedas were in sanskrit.. from sanskrit, hindi came. north indians are supporting hindi. sanskrit is god's language. mahabarata was in sanskrit only. don't blabber tat tamil is the oldest.. greek, sanskrit are the oldest.. sanskrit beging the oldest than greek.

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