Reuben

Mumbai, India

#1080 Jan 31, 2013
Tamil is the oldest Indian language because if I am not wrong Aryans were migrated to India and I guess Aryans brought Sanskrit to India and therefore Sanskrit is not an Indian language or the oldest language
jacob tirunelveli

India

#1082 Feb 3, 2013
north indians have no shame or self esteem. they love srilankans. they invite rajabakse to india and they are inviting him to tamil nadu. how is it. but they speak about patriotism (bullshit). when pakistani kills indian soldiers they say we will not play cricket with pakistan. this is their bravery. dont ever speak about tamil guys you are not at all humans you are just bullshit.
ganesh

Chennai, India

#1083 Feb 4, 2013
hi every one,it is true that tamil is the oldest language in world. many evidence are there... sanskrit evolved 2500 to 3000 bc... but one should forget where is the first civilization & oldest language started.. its in tamilnadu only... "KUMARIKANDAM" THe lost lemuriar continent or atlantis....MORE THAN 2,50,000 YEARS AGO.. submerged in 16000 bc , before iceage... still we have evidence.... pls visit kumarikandam wikipedia.... tamil is mother tongue for all languages..
Europe in india

Blackburn, UK

#1085 Feb 8, 2013
It snows in Kashmir, it snows in northern Punjab, it snows in northern balovhistan, it snows in Afghanistan, so, naturally the people in these regions are light skinned.we don,t need to go to Europe to find light coloured people. If aryas were light skinned, they must have originated in northern India. During the ice age it used to snow upto maharashtra, madhyapradesh and orissa. The mesopotamians have mentioned that Iranians aryas had dark hair, dark eyes and brown skin. The Iranian aryas were typical Indians. The statues and drawings of Iranian kings do not look like Europeans.they look typically north Indians.
Aravinthan

Chennai, India

#1086 Feb 8, 2013
Tamil has been spoken and oldest language tamil ancestors had have the business through ship(by king Raja raja sholan ) with sumerians greeeks and latins when sanskrit was not spoken we have proof you all guys shut your mouth on this debate instead of speaking show the proof as you are telling sanskrit is oldest fix the place and lets meet do not argue...
indo european

Blackburn, UK

#1087 Feb 9, 2013
Chandarvanshi and surajvanshi Indian royal families can trace their ancestories going back 500 generations.in a royal family the average length of rule for a king is 20 years. If we multiply 500 by20 it gives us 10,000 years. The oldest indus valley site has been dated to 8000 b.c. that is 10,000 years ago. The names of kings in the geneological records are in Sanskrit. This fits in well with the geneological records.

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#1088 Feb 9, 2013
indo european wrote:
Chandarvanshi and surajvanshi Indian royal families can trace their ancestories going back 500 generations.in a royal family the average length of rule for a king is 20 years. If we multiply 500 by20 it gives us 10,000 years. The oldest indus valley site has been dated to 8000 b.c. that is 10,000 years ago. The names of kings in the geneological records are in Sanskrit. This fits in well with the geneological records.
Dear IndiE,

I think you are about right.

Let's get simple. Studies of RNA passed from mother to daughter are the most consistent and easily followed timing and trail of the evidence of human migratory paths.

Couple these studies with the development of routes of travel and methods of travel, such as camel, horse, foot and boat. Couple these with the discovery and development of basic metallurgy, including the development of cultures around source mines and deposits of inorganic materials that were valuable.

Then, the nomadic cultures begin to appear to take root as city-states, thriving on trade and exchange that passes through. Two main lineages appear.

One is overland. The Silk Route. The other is coastal, with travel and portage assisted by the seas and rivers. The third important influence is climate change, which in the most recent expression of Humanity is evidenced by the Ice Age that retreated northwards at about 10,000 years ago. This is just as you said.

The exchange of raw materials, ideas, design innovations, usable and finished products, such as malleable metals like copper and tin and gold and silver and lead and iron and the alloys that were developed from them, salt and spices, richly colored fabrics and textiles; all of this related to the mathematics of trade which spurred the development of both religion and language.

The result? Cooperation and conflict, advance and retreat, the spread of ideas, taboo, superstition, disease, success and progress and failure and loss, as well as cultural victory and defeat.

No language is any better than any other, except that its wealth is in the range of expression of ideas. If then, any language is wealthy, its only value is realized when another finds a way to understand it and incorporate its advantages.

Where did the idea of the number "zero" come from?

Was it first from Sanskrit out of the Caucasus or from the Indus Valley? Was it first from the Tamil Coast? Or was it Clovis or Hopi Indian from southwestern North America over 13,000 years ago? Or was it Sumerian and from the religious schools of the ancient sea-going Atlanteans of the central islands of the Mediterranean Sea?

None of these. It came from "God" "Aum" "AmenRa" "Wah-Kon-Ton-Ka" "YHVH" "Brahma" "DreamTime" in an idea, as a gift to everyone.

Let the parochial interests of 2 Billion people living in the sub-continent known as India argue in futility about whose adjective first properly and poetically described both a woman's lips and a rose as the color "red."

In the meantime, you and I will have a cup of tea or a cold beer together on the veranda (sanskrit?) and celebrate the fact that we are both different and yet, much the same. And if we are truly fortunate, your great-grandson will find, by Serendipity (by the Princes of Serendip), my great-granddaughter and they will fall in love, marry and prosper and have many children of their own who will become citizens in their own right.

Rev. Ken
A priest and disciple of the Lord, Christ Jesus.
devaraj

Ashburn, VA

#1089 Feb 9, 2013
Kannada First Administrative
Language of South Kannada is the first
Administrative language of south
India and third after Prakrit &
sanskrit in India (Since Greek and
Aramic are used in territories
outside India ). This is arrived on the basis of full-length
Inscriptions or Grants in the form
of Copper plates and others. Sanskrit made its presence felt
during Satavahanas ,by the time
of Gupta's(4th century AD) it has
almost completely replaced Prakrit
in North India, After arrival of
Guptas to the south it rapidly replaced the prakrit in south also.
Sanskrit was used in inscriptions
from 4th century AD in Karnataka
and Andhra Pradesh and 6th
century in rest of south India.
Trend of using Full Length inscriptions in Regional Languages
along with Sanskrit started from
450AD in Kannada, 575AD in
Telugu , 610AD in Tamil and 850AD
in Malayalam. Rest of the
languages from table. Kannada Administative Language:
Kannada words have been found
right from earliest writings of
Ashoka. We will consider it a court
language when grants are issued
or inscriptions are made in that language. Kannada seems to be
the official language of
Satavahans as lord of kuntala,
But Chutu line of Satakarnis used
titles in Kannada, which show
that it was a offcial language of Chutu's . The Rastrakuta's of
Mana used kannada as the official
language. Kalidasa who visited
their court kuntala seems to be
slighted by this and him passing
derogatory comments on kannada shows it. But it is Kadmbas who
wrote inscriptions and gave
official grants in kannada.
Chalukyas followed them in giving
grants all over their country in
Kannada. Pallava's who never bothered to issue grants in Tamil
till then followed suit.
Rastrakuta's took kannada
language to an all India Status.
Rastrakuta inscriptions and
grants are found all over the India. Susequent Karnata rulers
like Mallas( North India & Nepal),
Palas& Sena( Bengal), Ganga
(Orissa), Solanki (Gujarat),
Chalukya Cholas ( Tamil nadu)
though did not use kannada as the official language in other
parts of the country, but kept
their kannada titles.
If you see the table it is kannada
which breaks the trend. The first
use of regional lanuage in their respective domain comes after
invasion and occupation by
Chalukyas , Rastrakuta and their
lineage of kings. By-isro
devaraj

Ashburn, VA

#1090 Feb 9, 2013
Kannada First Administrative
Language of South Kannada is the first
Administrative language of south
India and third after Prakrit &
sanskrit in India (Since Greek and
Aramic are used in territories
outside India ). This is arrived on the basis of full-length
Inscriptions or Grants in the form
of Copper plates and others. Sanskrit made its presence felt
during Satavahanas ,by the time
of Gupta's(4th century AD) it has
almost completely replaced Prakrit
in North India, After arrival of
Guptas to the south it rapidly replaced the prakrit in south also.
Sanskrit was used in inscriptions
from 4th century AD in Karnataka
and Andhra Pradesh and 6th
century in rest of south India.
Trend of using Full Length inscriptions in Regional Languages
along with Sanskrit started from
450AD in Kannada, 575AD in
Telugu , 610AD in Tamil and 850AD
in Malayalam. Rest of the
languages from table. Kannada Administative Language:
Kannada words have been found
right from earliest writings of
Ashoka. We will consider it a court
language when grants are issued
or inscriptions are made in that language. Kannada seems to be
the official language of
Satavahans as lord of kuntala,
But Chutu line of Satakarnis used
titles in Kannada, which show
that it was a offcial language of Chutu's . The Rastrakuta's of
Mana used kannada as the official
language. Kalidasa who visited
their court kuntala seems to be
slighted by this and him passing
derogatory comments on kannada shows it. But it is Kadmbas who
wrote inscriptions and gave
official grants in kannada.
Chalukyas followed them in giving
grants all over their country in
Kannada. Pallava's who never bothered to issue grants in
BM Karuppannan

Bangalore, India

#1091 Feb 16, 2013
Tamil Selvan wrote:
<quoted text>Kumari Kandam is not a myth .... researchers have found few remains of kumari kandam that dates back to 32000Bc to 9000Bc........
If even the words KUMARI (KUMAARI) and KANDAM (KANDAM) had to be borrowed from Sandkrit, it is proved that Skt. Of far more ancient origin than Tamil, certainly not the other way around. Also, incidentally, the THOLKAAPPIYA which is mentioned as one of the most ancient works in Tamil, has only THOL as the Tamil adjective, while KAAPPIYAM is the equivalent of KAAVYAM which is Skt. The serious problem is that the socalled "Dravidian" movement , a chavinist racialist-communalism-linguist ic movement confined to Tamilnadu, could not produce competent scholars of any unquestionable credentials for analyzing Sanskrit and Tamil on a comparative basis. This movement did not have much of an impact on Tamil society since its objective was a fraudulent one, namely to misuse the linguistic racialism as a mask for drawing political mileage without any meaningful political ideology. The pseudo-scholars misusing racialist-linguistic plank to support and curry favours of the politicians whom they supported, did not even have an iota of the sense that languages grow by mutual exchange to mutual sdvantage.
Shiva

Chennai, India

#1092 Feb 17, 2013
jacob wrote:
<quoted text>
mr.peace you are always forgetting what we argued and asking a question that i have told you earlier.
tamil worshipped siva,holy spirit,amman and tamil in early days. they dint have a specific religion.
you liars wrote vedas with tamil gods as the centre. thats why hinduism spread in tamil region.
during the mughals rule your brahmins and hindu priest came as refuges to tamil region. we welcomed you and we helped you to promote your ideas in other countries also proof is indonesia.
we dont argue against hinduism but our point is hinduism is based on our beliefs and vedas were written to divide people through castism which is an alien thing to tamils. before brahmins and their vedas came to tamil region we lived as one for all and all for one.
Jacob... good. Its interesting and good
Shiva

Chennai, India

#1093 Feb 17, 2013
jacob wrote:
<quoted text>
sanskrit can never become the oldest language because sanskrit itself is a cooked languages it is told by sanskrit itself. please dont argue without any knowledge.
tamil is the oldest language in the world. tamil is the mother of all languages in the world. because kumari kandam is the cradle of civilisation. when the whole world was barbaric tamil was well developed in kumari kandam.
because the first tamil sangam started in or around 10000 bc.
very good... awesome.. i like you
viladmir deepak podhigai

Chennai, India

#1094 Feb 18, 2013
In the age of kings they defeat the opposite kings,drink and enjoyed.In that period kaniyan poonguntranaar said unbathu naale uduppatu irande. we only establish the culture, decency and knowledge.
jacob tirunelveli

Bangalore, India

#1095 Feb 19, 2013
BM Karuppannan wrote:
<quoted text>
If even the words KUMARI (KUMAARI) and KANDAM (KANDAM) had to be borrowed from Sandkrit, it is proved that Skt. Of far more ancient origin than Tamil, certainly not the other way around. Also, incidentally, the THOLKAAPPIYA which is mentioned as one of the most ancient works in Tamil, has only THOL as the Tamil adjective, while KAAPPIYAM is the equivalent of KAAVYAM which is Skt. The serious problem is that the socalled "Dravidian" movement , a chavinist racialist-communalism-linguist ic movement confined to Tamilnadu, could not produce competent scholars of any unquestionable credentials for analyzing Sanskrit and Tamil on a comparative basis. This movement did not have much of an impact on Tamil society since its objective was a fraudulent one, namely to misuse the linguistic racialism as a mask for drawing political mileage without any meaningful political ideology. The pseudo-scholars misusing racialist-linguistic plank to support and curry favours of the politicians whom they supported, did not even have an iota of the sense that languages grow by mutual exchange to mutual sdvantage.
dear karuppannan, kumari and kandam are not sanskrit words dont speak anything without knowledge.kumari is virgin in tamil and kandam is continent.the name itself tells you the history of mankind. and tholkaappiyam is a tamil word. thol means old and kappiyam means guarded literature.kaappu-guarded,iyam -literature there is no meaning for kaappiyam in sanskrit. dontwrite whatever you think. understand tamil and then write .your name karuppanan is tamil means black elder brother.sanskrit is a language that was created to cheat others.dont be cheated. love tamil love history
tamila

Pune, India

#1097 Feb 19, 2013
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
<quoted text>
dear karuppannan, kumari and kandam are not sanskrit words dont speak anything without knowledge.kumari is virgin in tamil and kandam is continent.the name itself tells you the history of mankind. and tholkaappiyam is a tamil word. thol means old and kappiyam means guarded literature.kaappu-guarded,iyam -literature there is no meaning for kaappiyam in sanskrit. dontwrite whatever you think. understand tamil and then write .your name karuppanan is tamil means black elder brother.sanskrit is a language that was created to cheat others.dont be cheated. love tamil love history
super reply bro!!!!!!!!
Tamilan da

Coimbatore, India

#1098 Feb 19, 2013
Hi tamilan
your post is very good. one day we will come and rule the whole world once again.
happy

India

#1100 Feb 20, 2013
hindu warrior wrote:
sanskrit is the oldest language in the world.tamil is not the oldest language in the world.sanskrit was created by lord siva.vedas were in sanskrit.vedas are ever exixting.they r not composed.they r called god's breath.vedas has no begining same like god.tamil came afterwards.sanskrit is the father language of all the languages of the world.tamil is not superior to sanskrit.it is very idiotic even to think tamil is superior to sanskrit.
LOL! Sanskrit was created by lord siva! Dude man created language to communicate. God does not require any particular language to communicate!
jacob tirunelveli

Chennai, India

#1101 Feb 20, 2013
Mahadeva wrote:
Sanskrit is the oldest living language of India simply because it's all pervasive in modern day Indian languages (even Tamil has borrowed).
Going by the discovered manuscripts and literary works, Rigveda is considered the oldest 1500BC, and hence onceagian Sanskrit takes the crown of Oldest language.
Kannada, has the oldest inscripts (Nishadi) from the Proto-Old Kannada days. Also the oldest Tamil inscription dating back to 350BC has generous Kannada words (refer the scholar Iravatham Mahadevan). So in all essence of the oldest language, Sanskrit certainly is. Of the oldest spoken languages in India, Kannada and not Tamil takes the crown.
sanskrit can never become the first language many languages have loan words from sanskrit its bcos sanskrit was used in prayers when men started to build temples and worship god.but for your knowledge sanskrit's basic structure itself is influenced by tamil and parkrit.read rigveda and tamil literatures and parkrit literature. sanskrit had no written form till 350 bc rigveda is a compilation of many holy books written in tamil and parkrit. in chinese history the shang dynasty was the first civilized people who lived before chinese people entered the north china from central asia. this shang dynasty was drived out of china to central india.it is said that this shang people use to visit himalayan siva ilingam. and during that period the language of india was tamil,it is mentioned in the history of shang dynasty. china has the written proofs since the shang dynasty.
the shang people wore red cloth around the head and their symbol was fish.
alaghu pandian

Chennai, India

#1102 Feb 22, 2013
tamil is oldest language
TAMILAN

Pune, India

#1103 Feb 22, 2013
[QUOTE
hindu warrior wrote:
sanskrit is the oldest language in the world.tamil is not the oldest language in the world.sanskrit was created by lord siva.vedas were in sanskrit.vedas are ever exixting.they r not composed.they r called god's breath.vedas has no begining same like god.tamil came afterwards.sanskrit is the father language of all the languages of the world.tamil is not superior to sanskrit.it is very idiotic even to think tamil is superior to sanskrit.
[/QUOTE]

The name of lord shiva it self came from tamil language,shiva=shivappu which means red colour in tamil. tholkappiam is much older than vedas.

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