Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Shyam

United States

#3765 Jun 21, 2014
There is no use for the arguments going on here, my point people we have to know history correctly, Tamil is the mother language that evolved along with human evolution, Kannada, malayalam, Telugu are all the integration of Tamil and Indo Aryan language and so the people, as a matter of fact present Tamil language and Tamil people are not pure as Tamil before 3AD, but the purity is still in our blood and thoughts.
Shyam

United States

#3766 Jun 21, 2014
for some more mysterious information about Tamil.. refer the below links
http://www.alexcollier.org/alex-collier-lette...
Shyam

United States

#3767 Jun 21, 2014
Shyam

United States

#3768 Jun 21, 2014
Shyam

United States

#3769 Jun 21, 2014
for those who asked for legends from tamil nadu, here it is... architecture added as well
http://indianhistory-ace.blogspot.com/2010/04...
Shyam

United States

#3770 Jun 21, 2014
Anshuman

Kolkata, India

#3782 Jun 21, 2014
jacob tirunelveli wrote:
vedas are the photo copy of ancient holy books and beliefs of tamils . brahmins are the whicked people of the earth. ravana was their ancestor there is proof. srilankans dna matching only with brahmins the kashmiris.
take ramayana rama is a tamilian he is described as a dark colour handsome person.and ravana a light coloured person.only the names and places were rearranged in ramayanam.the proof of ramayanam belonging to tamil is the presence of agathyar in ramayanam.the north indians argue that there were two agathyar. but ramayanam says rama met agathyar near ilankai.
Dear friend what a foolish statement you made. you said that because of being a dark and handsome men Lord Ram belong to tamils... then you would also say that Lord Krishna was also a tamilain as he was also described as a dark and handsome men. you say that the name and place are rearranged in Holy Ramayana. I would like to invite you in Ayodhya (birth place of lord Ram) you can see lots of evidence there.
However its true that peoples of north don't have enough documents to support there statement but this is only because north India is been looted and destroyed several times by Muslims rulers and Britisher's and evidence you can see from Delhi to Varanasi and from Mathura to Tejpur. So apply some commonsense and please don't give such stuped statement's.
Anshuman

Kolkata, India

#3783 Jun 21, 2014
Shyam wrote:
Naveen I think u remember the maps of Ashokan Empire, Mauryan Empire and we saw that Tamilnadu at that period was untouched because of it three mighty kings,Why because Ashokan and Mauryans already had a lot of lands, secondly they know they cannot defeat 3 crowned kings of Tamilnadu, Pallavas are not Tamils I agree they have built stone temples but it is not the only architecture left here, there are temples built equivalent to pyramids but after kalabhras everything was destroyed and now the left is left. I visited the first cave temple of pallavas in Tamilnadu dated around 650-700 AD, but v had kings and rulers before 3000 yrs, do u think they have not built any temples, monuments, buildings, till 500AD, then did the kings lived in huts or wat??,There been stories lasting for centuries about imayavarman, senguttuvan who even travelled up to Himalayas and flagged. Everything was demolished during our dark age Mr., only the name Tamil and the land was left ok???? this is y people like u raising ur voice as if u know everything.
HI friends carry on with ur discussion but i would like to correct you on your's statement saying that Mauryan and Ashokan can't defeat 3 crowned kings of tamilnadu. king chandragupta maurya's minister chanakya had a meeting with a minister of Alexander (the time when attack king paras empire now in pakistan) after this meeting Alexander decided not to fight in India and he turned towards bebylone. This meeting is been described in Kataulya's book Arthashashtrya? do you think such a great warrior went back without no reason. Secondly you comment on Ashoka and i would like to remind you that ashoka defeated the rulers of kilanga now andhra pradesh, chattisghar. that means he was very near to 3 crown king of tamilnadu. evidence also support that king Ashoka was a fearless man(this is also written in Rajpatra of Ashoka as well as Katulya supported the same in his books; moreover the same is been written at sanchi) It is not about fear Ashoka followed the path of peace after the battel of kalinga and followed Buddhism. therefore the statement that Ashoka can't defeat the 3 crowned king is incorrect.And i am sure if Ashoka had not put down his arms dafenately today the history was witnessing something else.
Mudaliar

Bangalore, India

#3784 Jun 21, 2014
Anushman

No one question the ability of Asoka or Alexander, but south remained unconquered for several centuries , even though infighting was a continuous affair.Yet the South history need to be revisited due to Aryan , Dravidian misnomers and we have minimal constraint to come out from Euro greek centric distorted timelines and history.The trade relations of south with outside world several centuries before Alexander is still unknown to the west and also our own North. Also we need to progress from Sanskrit and Tamil debate and find ways to globalise the languages too.So diversity is a strength and not a weekness.My perception is that this one of the root cause of neither Sanskrit nor Hindi nor Tamil and other languages time and again could compete with English. I am given to understand there are 35 countries teaching Sanskrit and it will be promoted aggressively to globalise Hindi. I am now with recent studies that Hindi movement was started by DrJ.R .Ballantyne, principal of English department of Benares college who promoted Hindi as National language of British India and had a prophetic vision as early as 1847. Yet it is spoken by majority? and lost out to English.!!!
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#3785 Jun 21, 2014
Anshuman wrote:
<quoted text>HI friends carry on with ur discussion but i would like to correct you on your's statement saying that Mauryan and Ashokan can't defeat 3 crowned kings of tamilnadu. king chandragupta maurya's minister chanakya had a meeting with a minister of Alexander (the time when attack king paras empire now in pakistan) after this meeting Alexander decided not to fight in India and he turned towards bebylone. This meeting is been described in Kataulya's book Arthashashtrya? do you think such a great warrior went back without no reason. Secondly you comment on Ashoka and i would like to remind you that ashoka defeated the rulers of kilanga now andhra pradesh, chattisghar. that means he was very near to 3 crown king of tamilnadu. evidence also support that king Ashoka was a fearless man(this is also written in Rajpatra of Ashoka as well as Katulya supported the same in his books; moreover the same is been written at sanchi) It is not about fear Ashoka followed the path of peace after the battel of kalinga and followed Buddhism. therefore the statement that Ashoka can't defeat the 3 crowned king is incorrect.And i am sure if Ashoka had not put down his arms dafenately today the history was witnessing something else.
Dear Ansuman, The real history is King Ashoka raised his Army against the Tamils several times but only the defeat was leftover to him. Yes Ashoka was defeated in the battle of Serupazhi by the Chola King. and could not win the battle at all.. henceforth decided to handle the weapon of BETRAYAL agains the tamils and sent his ambassador Vijaya along with the Buddhist Monks to Ceylon or Srilanka.. otherwise how come the buddhism in the tamil land or how buddhists drifted to the extreme of southern end crossing all over the hindu territory...
Karuppasamy Pandian

Mumbai, India

#3786 Jun 21, 2014
The Tamil language is one of the oldest living language of the earth and which gives birth to the new languages such as Malayalam in 15th Century and the one of the first language to be declare as the classical language of India. Tamil was one of the dominant language of trade during the pre-colonial era by people like Ainnurruvar and such as Tamil inscriptions and coins found on many parts of Asia and Africa such as on China, Cambodia, Egypt and Indonesia.[1]
During 18th Century, the British and French rules brought the Tamils to the many parts of Asia and Africa which makes many countries with significant Tamil speakers and cultural impact such as there are more than 1,000,000 speakers of Tamil language in the Malaysia itself.
Countries where Tamil is used and has cultural impact but not official
MALAYSIA<MAURITIS<SEYCHE LLES<REUNION...
countries where tamil is an official language...
SINGAPORE<SRILANKA.......
VALKA TAMIL>>>>VELKA TAMIL>>>>TAMIL EN MOOCHE<<TAMIL EN PEACHU.........
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3787 Jun 22, 2014
Anshuman wrote:
<quoted text>Dear friend what a foolish statement you made. you said that because of being a dark and handsome men Lord Ram belong to tamils... then you would also say that Lord Krishna was also a tamilain as he was also described as a dark and handsome men. you say that the name and place are rearranged in Holy Ramayana. I would like to invite you in Ayodhya (birth place of lord Ram) you can see lots of evidence there.
However its true that peoples of north don't have enough documents to support there statement but this is only because north India is been looted and destroyed several times by Muslims rulers and Britisher's and evidence you can see from Delhi to Varanasi and from Mathura to Tejpur. So apply some commonsense and please don't give such stuped statement's.
dont waste ur time by arguing with these mad fools, they dont know atleast their real history, do u know that tamilnadu was formed with 42%of telugu origins. Entire tamil history was leaded by brahmins who are said to be invaders from north india. These early cholas,pandyas and cheras didn't builted any temple architectures, temples in tn were builted by pallavas(telugus) nayaks(telugus) medieval cholas(eastern chalukyas).pallavas builted the first south indian(dravidian, european created word for south indians) architectures at 600 a.d. Later all the dravidian architectural temples in south were builted after 700 a.d. Medieval cholas builted temples later 10 th century.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3788 Jun 22, 2014
Even these tamils copied the folk instruments and arts from andhrapradesh
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3789 Jun 22, 2014
These tamil people inspired from their fake history articles and movies about their kingdoms and copy cat history
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3790 Jun 22, 2014
These copycat tamil people and their history never better than nor comparable to telugus.these tamil copycats Always taking credit for telugus work
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3791 Jun 22, 2014
Rajaraja chola,rajendra chola,uttama chola,aditya chola,parantaka chola, etc... All the medieval cholas are eastern chalukyas merged with early cholas of tamilnadu at 800 a.d. Raja raja chola,rajendra cholas are medieval cholas(eastern chalukyas) here.
Shyam

San Mateo, CA

#3792 Jun 22, 2014
Hahaha... Mr.Naveen, if the comments posted by you were set in order it is evident that how much u r capable of speaking, offending ur own topics and making a brand new story... applause for it.

U fools know nothing about history India has lost its purity in 6th century BC itself is when the Indus valley civilisation came to an end due to Aryan invasions, u me and every single person here are not pure now, wat are we fighting for, u fight to prove Telugu is d only thing u ever know and v trying to talk about the real history .
Shyam

San Mateo, CA

#3793 Jun 22, 2014
it is Buddhist and Jain's who invaded in 6th century BC and everything was mixed into our culture, people, monarchy, lifestyle, language and every identity all shit got mixed up.
Dont imagine that Telugu survived all these and remain untouched and wat u speak is pure where u live is pure.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3797 Jun 22, 2014
Actually some of these ancient tamils are barbarians migrated from africa through srilanka, as a spoken language tamil language was derived from srilankans b4 300 b.c. Sinhaleese migrated to tamilnadu regions and settled there and CHERA kingdom was estd by sinhaleese and indigenous buddhists,at mauryan times these buddhists were living in ancient south india and it was covered with andhrapradesh people/telugus. Early chola and pandya kingdom was estd by ancient north indian invaders to deep south what is now tamilnadu.early Chola kingdom was estd by vellalars of north india. Agasthya and siddhars migrated with vellalars. Pandya kingdom was estd by devars of north west india. All the famous people in tamilnadu are telugu origins
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3804 Jun 22, 2014
Tamil literatures were written by jains of north indian origin, silapathikaram,thirukkural,aka nanooru and purananooru was written by jains, tamil grammers were composed by invaders who were settled in tamilnadu like brahmins and jains from north india,agasthya and sidhars with velirs from dwaraka north india.mathematicians of kerala brahmins,founders of kalaripayattu parashurama and agasthya, Even in medieval era of tamilnadu poets,devotees,saints, famous people in cinema and in some fields are mostly invaders(brahmins,) so where are real tamils and their pride here?

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