Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3419 May 3, 2014
MR KUMAR, Kakatiya kingdom was estd by natives of telangana at 9th century. Musunuri nayaks were the army under kakatiya empire, after the invasions of mughals large numbers of NAYAKS migrated to karnataka regions at 13th century. Vijayanagara empire was estd at late 13th century, the origins of vijayanagara empire is unknown, the vijayanagara temple architectures builted later 14th century a.d. . The TULU language is found to be originated at 14th century it means it was founded by nayaks at 14th century. Nayaks migrated to karnataka and settled there. They spoken the language tulu which was founded by nayak migrants at karnataka borders with kannada influence. Krishna devaraya was born at 15th century a.d. He belong to tuluva comunity but his ancestors r from telugu origin thats why he wrote himself as he was from telugu origin in some literatures. Keladi nayaks of karnataka estd kingdoms in 15th century a.d. it means they are considered as tuluvas in karnataka(the speakers of tulu). Nayaks clans in vijayanagara empire remained with telugu language thats why they estd telugu kingdoms in tamilnadu.The first 1000 pillar temple, was builted in warangal at 10th century a.d. And the 1000 pillalars,sculptures of horse riding wariors are similiar in warangal. Nayak clans of tamilnadu and karnataka builted temples after 14th century. Nayaks r the origin of telugus after their migrations to karnataka regions they were called as tuluvas bcoz tuluva comunity was formed by nayak peoples in karnataka who had their origin from andhra. Nayaks in karnataka remained as kannadigas. Later vijayanagara was estd in tn, vijayanagara was split into nayak clans who were telugu speakers.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3420 May 3, 2014
KUMAR, How muslims given name as nayak. At the time of 15th and 16th centuries, muslims r still invaded and fought with indian kingdoms. Why muslims called as nayaks at that time. It was might be later after 17th century some muslim named as naik (not nayak) by hindu kings when fighting with british people . Nayak clans r from telugu origin. Tuluva had its origin from nayaks and telugu. later some other people were called with this name after 17th century
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3421 May 3, 2014
KUMAR, ur point tulu is equally old as telugu,tamil,kannada is made with frustration, TULU originated at 14th century a.d. By NAYAKS At karnatak borders with kannada influ. Nayaks r telugu origins setled in karnataka after mughal invasions at 13th century. Keladi nayak dynasty estd at 15th century.(200 yr gap to form a tuluva comunity after nayak migrations to karnataka) Tulu came from Telu(gu) with kannada influ. i dont know whether u might be a tuluva or kannadiga or others but u r wrong Its fact
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3422 May 3, 2014
1, tamilnadu kingdoms estd by north indians chola,pandya,chera, source; sangam gramer,gramer writen by north indian agasthya,sidhars,jains source:sangam gramer and wiki, andhra kingdoms in tn pallavas and nayaks .2, even these tamil fools cant pronounce the words,they call KUMARIKANDAM as KUMARIGANDAM, SANGAM AS CANKAM. How these words are called as tamil words. Infact the word sangam is not even mentioned in any tamil texts.
3, UNESCO said tamil as one of the oldest(not old than all) due to sangam gramer which was writen by north indians. Tamil gramer is oldest but language is not oldest. None of indians will agree to it. Tamilnadu wont have any history b4 300 b.c.
4, tamil language and tamilnadu 300 b.c. No tamil tribes are mentioned in any ancient indian texts. Tamils dont have any history b4 300 b.c.. One thing to say is tamilnadu is fake
Kumar

Bangalore, India

#3423 May 3, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
KUMAR, ur point tulu is equally old as telugu,tamil,kannada is made with frustration, TULU originated at 14th century a.d. By NAYAKS At karnatak borders with kannada influ. Nayaks r telugu origins setled in karnataka after mughal invasions at 13th century. Keladi nayak dynasty estd at 15th century.(200 yr gap to form a tuluva comunity after nayak migrations to karnataka) Tulu came from Telu(gu) with kannada influ. i dont know whether u might be a tuluva or kannadiga or others but u r wrong Its fact
I am Tuluva why any doubt Tulu is spoken in Tulunadu for more than 2000 years(atleast read wikipedia before writing) this is accepted by all Linguistic scholars.If you want to call Krishnadevaraya a Telugu King that does not matter but dont say Tulu originated in 15th c e not a single historian in this world will agree with you. Your definitely not great than those Linguistic Scholars If you still believe what you say is right than i have nothing to talk to you
Tamil

Chennai, India

#3424 May 3, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
1, tamilnadu kingdoms estd by north indians chola,pandya,chera, source; sangam gramer,gramer writen by north indian agasthya,sidhars,jains source:sangam gramer and wiki, andhra kingdoms in tn pallavas and nayaks .2, even these tamil fools cant pronounce the words,they call KUMARIKANDAM as KUMARIGANDAM, SANGAM AS CANKAM. How these words are called as tamil words. Infact the word sangam is not even mentioned in any tamil texts.
3, UNESCO said tamil as one of the oldest(not old than all) due to sangam gramer which was writen by north indians. Tamil gramer is oldest but language is not oldest. None of indians will agree to it. Tamilnadu wont have any history b4 300 b.c.
4, tamil language and tamilnadu 300 b.c. No tamil tribes are mentioned in any ancient indian texts. Tamils dont have any history b4 300 b.c.. One thing to say is tamilnadu is fake
Its english transliteration, nothing to do with tamil. we know how to write in tamil,. so stfu and why UNESCO didt say telegu is oldest they didt know that tamil sangam grammer was written by andhras? lol how pathetic you are. you speak without a logic
priya

Bangalore, India

#3427 May 4, 2014
Russell ferido wrote:
Hey people were in the university proved the Tamil language is the oldest language in India over the world.so fight with this matter....south Indian are the beginning...
I think this is right because Tamil was born before 20000 years ago. but the world's culture,tradition are born only before 2000 years ago.
priya

Bangalore, India

#3428 May 4, 2014
I think the world's oldest language is TAMIL BECAUSE world's culture, tradition are born before 2000 years ago but Tamil was born before 20000 years ago
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#3429 May 4, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
1, tamilnadu kingdoms estd by north indians chola,pandya,chera, source; sangam gramer,gramer writen by north indian agasthya,sidhars,jains source:sangam gramer and wiki, andhra kingdoms in tn pallavas and nayaks .2, even these tamil fools cant pronounce the words,they call KUMARIKANDAM as KUMARIGANDAM, SANGAM AS CANKAM. How these words are called as tamil words. Infact the word sangam is not even mentioned in any tamil texts.
3, UNESCO said tamil as one of the oldest(not old than all) due to sangam gramer which was writen by north indians. Tamil gramer is oldest but language is not oldest. None of indians will agree to it. Tamilnadu wont have any history b4 300 b.c.
4, tamil language and tamilnadu 300 b.c. No tamil tribes are mentioned in any ancient indian texts. Tamils dont have any history b4 300 b.c.. One thing to say is tamilnadu is fake
See, Tamil script is only designed for its own language... Pronounciation differs according to the location and situation for example in english G and J pronounciation will be one and same letter if you write it in telugu, hindi or kannada etc.. cant the word "Giraffe" written as "Jiraffe"..? if the pronounciation of "giraffe" is right then why dont you spell the word "Girl" as Jirl...? the same applies to "S" and "C" this is just one example i english there are many like this.... dint u used up with the language(english) like that we are used up with our language....
if you say telugu is older than tamil then why Unesco dint declare it as the oldest language.. they very well know that Telugu is an offshoot of Tamil...
Arguement in english is seems to be foolish but still it is the global language....
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#3430 May 4, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
1, tamilnadu kingdoms estd by north indians chola,pandya,chera, source; sangam gramer,gramer writen by north indian agasthya,sidhars,jains source:sangam gramer and wiki, andhra kingdoms in tn pallavas and nayaks .2, even these tamil fools cant pronounce the words,they call KUMARIKANDAM as KUMARIGANDAM, SANGAM AS CANKAM. How these words are called as tamil words. Infact the word sangam is not even mentioned in any tamil texts.
3, UNESCO said tamil as one of the oldest(not old than all) due to sangam gramer which was writen by north indians. Tamil gramer is oldest but language is not oldest. None of indians will agree to it. Tamilnadu wont have any history b4 300 b.c.
4, tamil language and tamilnadu 300 b.c. No tamil tribes are mentioned in any ancient indian texts. Tamils dont have any history b4 300 b.c.. One thing to say is tamilnadu is fake
See, Tamil script is only designed for its own language... Pronounciation differs according to the location and situation for example in english G and J pronounciation will be one and same letter if you write it in telugu, hindi or kannada etc.. cant the word "Giraffe" written as "Jiraffe"..? if the pronounciation of "giraffe" is right then why dont you spell the word "Girl" as Jirl...? the same applies to "S" and "C" this is just one example i english there are many like this.... dint u used up with the language(english)? likewise we are used up with our language....
if you say telugu is older than tamil then why Unesco dint declare it as the oldest language.. they very well know that Telugu is an offshoot of Tamil...
Arguement in english seems to be foolish but still it is the global language....
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3431 May 4, 2014
Tamil and Telugu both r different languages, even the telugu words are found in tamil language. tamil ,kannada,malayalam words and languages r similar but not telugu. This proves telugu is older than other south indian languages. Telugu words r mentioned even in greek and prakrits b4 300 to 100 b.c. Does ur tamil words are mentioned in any other languages, tamilnadu history formed at b.c. 300 by north indian migrants and they contributed to tamil literature that doesn't mean tamil as a oldest language. North indian saints r the main reason for the development of tamil literature. There was no tamil and tamil tribes b4 300 b.c. didn't mentioned in any ancient texts of india. Andhras r the ancestors of south indians. UNESCO said tamil as old bcoz of sangam grammer but telugus/andhras had ancient history and older than tamil. b4 independence telugu people are nearly double than tamils without including 42% of telugus here. Andhras r the most ancient tribes of india and the ancestors of southindians and culture and traditions.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3432 May 4, 2014
Vinod S wrote:
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See, Tamil script is only designed for its own language... Pronounciation differs according to the location and situation for example in english G and J pronounciation will be one and same letter if you write it in telugu, hindi or kannada etc.. cant the word "Giraffe" written as "Jiraffe"..? if the pronounciation of "giraffe" is right then why dont you spell the word "Girl" as Jirl...? the same applies to "S" and "C" this is just one example i english there are many like this.... dint u used up with the language(english)? likewise we are used up with our language....
if you say telugu is older than tamil then why Unesco dint declare it as the oldest language.. they very well know that Telugu is an offshoot of Tamil...
Arguement in english seems to be foolish but still it is the global language....
mad fool, Tamil and Telugu both r different languages, even the telugu words are found in tamil language. tamil ,kannada,malayalam words and languages r similar but not telugu. This proves telugu is older than other south indian languages. Telugu words r mentioned even in greek and prakrits b4 300 to 100 b.c. Does ur tamil words are mentioned in any other languages, tamilnadu history formed at b.c. 300 by north indian migrants and they contributed to tamil literature that doesn't mean tamil as a oldest language. North indian saints r the main reason for the development of tamil literature. There was no tamil and tamil tribes b4 300 b.c. didn't mentioned in any ancient texts of india. Andhras r the ancestors of south indians.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3433 May 4, 2014
HISTORY OF TAMILNADU;North indian kingdoms in tamilnadu; chola(vellalars),pandyas(devar s/mukkulathors),cheras(sinhale s/of north origin),medieval cholas(eastern chalukyas/rajputs of north). Andhra kingdoms in tamilnadu; pallavas,nayaks. Sangam grammer was writen by north indian migrants with vellalars like agasthya,sidhars,jains from north indian places. Tamilnadu was formed with 42% of telugu bcoz ancient south india wont have exact borders. Most of the famous people(legendary) in TN are telugus. Most of the famous telugus r identifying as tamils in tn. Powerful politicians in tn are telugus. Tamilnadu temples were builted by telugus like pallavas and nayaks. Some temples were builted by mid cholas who were rajputs. Telugus r responsible for the pride of tamils bcoz most of ancient south was packed with telugu people.
Mahesh

Singapore, Singapore

#3434 May 4, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Tamil and Telugu both r different languages, even the telugu words are found in tamil language. tamil ,kannada,malayalam words and languages r similar but not telugu. This proves telugu is older than other south indian languages. Telugu words r mentioned even in greek and prakrits b4 300 to 100 b.c. Does ur tamil words are mentioned in any other languages, tamilnadu history formed at b.c. 300 by north indian migrants and they contributed to tamil literature that doesn't mean tamil as a oldest language. North indian saints r the main reason for the development of tamil literature. There was no tamil and tamil tribes b4 300 b.c. didn't mentioned in any ancient texts of india. Andhras r the ancestors of south indians. UNESCO said tamil as old bcoz of sangam grammer but telugus/andhras had ancient history and older than tamil. b4 independence telugu people are nearly double than tamils without including 42% of telugus here. Andhras r the most ancient tribes of india and the ancestors of southindians and culture and traditions.
mr Mottai naveen it is there are tamil words in Telugu and one of your last statements we can see that Telugu are kamaveri piditha gundarkal than nattu makkalai avane kurai kurukiran ithuvae naam petra vetri
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3435 May 4, 2014
Mahesh wrote:
<quoted text> mr Mottai naveen it is there are tamil words in Telugu and one of your last statements we can see that Telugu are kamaveri piditha gundarkal than nattu makkalai avane kurai kurukiran ithuvae naam petra vetri
history less beggars, tamil and tamilnadu is totally fake
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3436 May 4, 2014
Tamil was influenced by telugu and sanskrit, later tamil-kannada-malayalam evolved and shared similiar linguistics
Neelakaran

Palakkad, India

#3437 May 4, 2014
Mahesh wrote:
<quoted text> mr Mottai naveen it is there are tamil words in Telugu and one of your last statements we can see that Telugu are kamaveri piditha gundarkal than nattu makkalai avane kurai kurukiran ithuvae naam petra vetri
LOL!

And BTW, I am not going to argue.. Just seeing how the arguments are going.. Aren't you people sick yet of arguing?!

May be its time to start a new thread and take this conversations over there...

Also, I would like to worry about the future instead of dreaming about the past...
Neelakaran

Palakkad, India

#3438 May 4, 2014
Tamil wrote:
People who are reading Naveen kumar's post, here is the excerpts
1.Tamil was created by north indians and andhras ( He holds copyright for another 147 languages & 2 languages for his personal use, oh yes! he can create a language and make us talk that language, be scared very scared.)
2. All Tamil dynasty are north Indians and telegu ( Source: His grandma's story)
3.Unesco, historians, scholors are liars ( he gonna sue them)
4.Tamil and tamilnadu are created after 300 BC (perhaps he have the extact date and time)
5.Tamil and tamilnadu are created after 300 BC( yea i know i am repeating the 4, so does Naveen kumar in all his post)
6.All Tamil literature are translated from andhras and vedas (His grandfather was offical translater for andhras and north indians)
All other things he said cannot understand by normals humans because he is AWESOME!
LOL! Truly hilarious bro!:D
Tamil

Madipakkam, India

#3439 May 4, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
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LOL! Truly hilarious bro!:D
Spirit of debate is already, so just have fun.
Tamil

Madipakkam, India

#3440 May 4, 2014
Neelakaran wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! Truly hilarious bro!:D
spirit of debate is already lost*

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