Which is the Oldest Indian Language? ...
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#3057 Apr 6, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> kumari kandam is a myth,no evidences found about tamil, tamil language and tamilnadu is only 300 b.c. Which founded by north indians,andhras r the ancestors of whole india north and south.
Cool..........

Once again repeating same true statement.

FYI,

Ancient Cities in Tamil Nadu May Be Over 12,000 Years Old.

CHENNAI, INDIA, January 5, 2003: A British marine archaeologist and author Graham Hancock has been examining a submerged city on the East Coast of Tamil Nadu. Mr. Hancock says a civilization thriving there may predate the Sumerian civilization of Mesopotamia in present-day Iraq and definitely existed before the Harappan civilization in India and Pakistan. He has been excavating the site off the coast of Poompuhar, near Nagapattinam, 400 km south of Chennai. At a meeting of the Mythic Society in Bangalore in early December, Mr. Hancock said underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence that corroborated Tamil mythological stories of ancient floods. He said tidal waves of 400 feet or more could have swallowed this flourishing port city any time between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago, the date of the last Ice Age. The Gulf of Cambay was also submerged, taking with it evidence of early man's migration. The populations Mr. Wells and Mr. Pitchappan (see previous article) mapped settled on India's East Coast 50,000 to 35,000 years ago and developed into modern man. According to Hancock, "the Poompuhar underwater site could well provide evidence that it was the cradle of modern civilization." Hancock's theory is strengthened by findings of India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), which has explored the site since the 1980s. Man-made structures like well rims, horseshoe-shaped building sites are some of the lost city's secrets. At low tide, some brick structures from the Sangam era are still visible in places like Vanagiri. The region, archaeologists say, has been built over and over again through the ages and some of its past is now being revealed. Mr. Glenn Milne, a British geologist from Durham University, has confirmed Hancock's theory.

More information is found at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_132193 ...
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#3058 Apr 6, 2014
Shiva Telangana wrote:
As a spoken language Telugu is older than tamil. tamil is derived from Telugu tamil fools have no proper evidence to prove tamil antiquity their claims are based on imaginations.There is lot of contradictions among tamil ''scholars'' regarding '' tamil'' brahmi script , dates of tolkappiyam and sangama litreature this itself proves their claims are false
tamil fools try hard to prove thier language as oldest but no one will belive them
Cool..........
FYI &A,

Difference Between Tamil and Telugu & Sanskrit

Tamil vs Telugu

1.Telugu Grammar (11th century A.D ) vs Tolkappiyam ( Tamil Grammar )- 3rd century BCE

2.Tamil and Telugu are Dravidian languages that are spoken in the southern states of India. Tamil is spoken in Tamil Nadu and Telugu in Andhra Pradesh. There are a number of differences between these two languages. The Indian Government declared Tamil a classical language in 2004. It is the only Dravidian language that has this classical status.

3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages. It is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between 6 BC and 3 AD. The Pre-Nannayya Period (before 1020 AD) In the earliest period Telugu literature existed in the form of inscriptions, precisely from 575 AD on-wards. Most of the works were translations from Sanskrit. It was in the tenth century AD that Telugu literature began.

4.The influence of the Sanskrit language can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas the Tamil language has not been much influenced by it. In grammar, the Tamil language has its own grammatical structure whereas the influence of Sanskrit is clearly evident in the Telugu language.

5.Saskrit - No native script , How they written all vedas in saskrits (Devanagari ). Devanagari are first attested from the 7th century CE. May be all vedas first Written in Tamil.

6.Prakrit & Pali are the early north indian language and tamil is the oldest of all indian language.

Summary

1.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
2.The Indian Government declared first Tamil a classical language in 2004.
3.The Tamil language is considered to be the oldest of all Dravidian languages.
4.The Tamil language is known to have existed more than two thousand years ago. Sangam literature, which is considered to be earliest era of Tamil literature , is dated between BC 6 and AD 3.
5.The earliest Telugu inscription can be dated back to 575 AD and has been attributed to Renati Cholas.
6.The influence of Sanskrit can be widely seen in the Telugu language whereas Tamil has not been influenced by it much.

Finaly,

Tamil is one of the longest surviving classical languages in the world. It has been described as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past and having "one of the richest literatures in the world".Tamil literature has existed for over 3000 years. The earliest epigraphic records found on rock edicts and hero stones date from around the 6th century BC.

TELUGU LANGUAGE , GRAMMAR , SCRIPT- AD ONLY
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#3059 Apr 6, 2014
Shiva Telangana wrote:
Yes it is indeed Insult comparing...but in other way. Tamilians are half baked as their Language. It has a lot of limitations...the most funny thing is you should know the subject before reading that...Unlike Telugu where you can write what you speak...I think Tamilians just boast for anything and everything about themselves...cos their knowledge about others is far too little...
And they are like termites....once they come and settle in a place they start behaving as its their own...(Singapore, Srilanka...) And Please never compare cheap Tamil to Divine Sanskrit and Telugu....
Cool..........

FYI,
Indian Government officially announced Tamil is the oldest language in India and Tamil Nadu Government has celebrated this event at Coimbatore as World Classical Tamil Conference 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language
Tamil belongs to the southern branch of the Dravidian languages, a family of around 26 languages native to the Indian subcontinent.It is also classified as being part of a Tamil language family, which alongside Tamil proper, also includes the languages of about 35 ethno-linguistic groups such as the Irula and Yerukula languages .
The closest major relative of Tamil is Malayalam.
Until about the 19th century, Malayalam was a dialect of Tamil.

Tamil grammar is extensively described in the oldest known grammar book in the world, the Tolkappiyam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil-Brahmi
The evidence for pre-Ashokan dispersal comes from Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu.
The earliest attested Brahmi inscriptions in South Asia - TAMIL BRAHMI
The earliest attested Brahmi inscriptions in South Asia are found in the citadel of Anuradhapura in Sri Lanka and are dated to the 4th century BCE.According to Allchin et al., Brahmi developed before the southern spread of Ashokan missionary activities and spread across South Asia due to trade networks. There have been few inscriptions found in Tamil Nadu that have been tentatively dated to 5th century BCE in Porunthal
India oldest ASI founds Tamil Script 600 BC.
FINALY ,
INDIAN SANSKRIT GOVERMENT APPROVED -
Indian Government officially announced Tamil is the oldest language in India and Tamil Nadu Government has celebrated this event at Coimbatore as World Classical Tamil Conference 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_Chola_I - The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign.
Rajendra Chola I (Rajendra Chola the Great) was the son of Rajaraja Chola I and considered one of the greatest rulers and military leaders of the Tamil Chola Empire. He succeeded his father in 1014 CE as the Chola emperor. During his reign, he extended the influences of the already vast Chola empire up to the banks of the river Ganges in the north and across the ocean. Rajendra’s territories extended coastal Burma, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Lakshadweep, Maldives, conquered the kings of Srivijaya (Sumatra, Java and Malay Peninsula in South East Asia) and Pegu islands with his fleet of ships. He defeated Mahipala, the Pala king of Bengal and Bihar, and to commemorate his victory he built a new capital called Gangaikonda Cholapuram. The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign. The Tamil Chola armies exacted tribute from Thailand and the Khmer kingdom of Cambodia. Like the predecessors of the Cholas, the Pallavas and the contemporaneous Pandiyans, the Cholas too under Raja Raja I the father of Rajendra and then Rajendra Chola I too undertook several expeditions to occupy territories outside Indian shores. Of these kings, it was Rajendra who made
The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign.
Note : ASIA - Included INDIA , SRILANKA ,SINGAPOUR , MALAYSIA ...ETC
FACT
IVC 2,500 BC & Poompuhar - 12,000 BC ( Ice Age ) Belong to Tamil PEOPLE & That time entire INDIA belong to Tamil.
COOL..........
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3060 Apr 6, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Cool..........
Once again repeating same true statement.
FYI,
Ancient Cities in Tamil Nadu May Be Over 12,000 Years Old.
CHENNAI, INDIA, January 5, 2003: A British marine archaeologist and author Graham Hancock has been examining a submerged city on the East Coast of Tamil Nadu. Mr. Hancock says a civilization thriving there may predate the Sumerian civilization of Mesopotamia in present-day Iraq and definitely existed before the Harappan civilization in India and Pakistan. He has been excavating the site off the coast of Poompuhar, near Nagapattinam, 400 km south of Chennai. At a meeting of the Mythic Society in Bangalore in early December, Mr. Hancock said underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence that corroborated Tamil mythological stories of ancient floods. He said tidal waves of 400 feet or more could have swallowed this flourishing port city any time between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago, the date of the last Ice Age. The Gulf of Cambay was also submerged, taking with it evidence of early man's migration. The populations Mr. Wells and Mr. Pitchappan (see previous article) mapped settled on India's East Coast 50,000 to 35,000 years ago and developed into modern man. According to Hancock, "the Poompuhar underwater site could well provide evidence that it was the cradle of modern civilization." Hancock's theory is strengthened by findings of India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), which has explored the site since the 1980s. Man-made structures like well rims, horseshoe-shaped building sites are some of the lost city's secrets. At low tide, some brick structures from the Sangam era are still visible in places like Vanagiri. The region, archaeologists say, has been built over and over again through the ages and some of its past is now being revealed. Mr. Glenn Milne, a British geologist from Durham University, has confirmed Hancock's theory.
More information is found at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_132193 ...
kumari kandam is a myth, tamil language and tamilnadu is only 300 b.c. Which founded by north indians,andhras r the ancestors of whole india north and south. Andhras r the natives of india and the first civilized people and ancestors of north and south indians. Andhras r the inventors of early indian languages
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3061 Apr 6, 2014
Tamilnadu 300 b.c. Formed with 3 early north indian kingdoms who migrated from north and north west india like cholas( 40000 vellalars migrated to south) ,pandyas(devars of nw india,cheras(sinhalese who r ancient north indians), tamil people r only tribals ruled by north indian kingdoms,Tamil early inscriptions 250 b.c. Tamil grammer 100 b.c. to 800 a.d. Which was written by north indians who migrated to south like agasthya,18 siddhar families,and jains from north india. Andhra kingdoms ruled tamilnadu are pallavas,nayaks. Tamilnadu was formed with more than 42% of telugu origins, the famous people in tamilnadu are telugu people who r andhraites,tamils r lazy dummies who has the history for building temples to heroines. Temples in tn was builted by pallavas(telugus) nayaks(telugus)medieval cholas(western chalukyas/rajputs/north indians). Tamilnadu is nothing without telugu people/andhra kingdoms and ancient north indian saints and kingdoms.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3062 Apr 6, 2014
The whole tamilnadu history depend on andhras and north indians bcoz andhras r the ancestors of south and north. kingdoms,language and grammer was estd and writen by north and north west indians and native andhras
Vinod S

New Delhi, India

#3063 Apr 6, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> Kid, roflol..... Scolding,discriminating,and insulting other language people cant make ur language oldest, u cant hide the truth that tamil and sangam grammer was created and writen by north indians agasthya,sidhars, who were brahmins,and north indian jains, the temples in tn were not builted by tamil origins,those temples were builted by telugus like pallavas,nayaks, and medieval cholas( western chalukyas who were ancient rajputs)
Chozhas, Pandyas, Cheras, Pallavas all these were Tamil Dynasty... Telugu formation only on 11th AD. Battiprolu script is Prakrit... Telugu is an Offshoot of Tamil...This is Actual... Naveens Postings are all fake.. How come Indian govt diclared Tamil first as the classical language ? think... At the time of Pallavas Only Tamil and Sanskrit were in use...Not Telugu...
Telugu is the Mixture of Tamil, Sanskrit, Arabic and the Script of telugu wereTaken from KANNADA with minute changes... This is true man.. Agree the fact.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3065 Apr 6, 2014
Shiva Telangana wrote:
As a spoken language Telugu is older than tamil. tamil is derived from Telugu tamil fools have no proper evidence to prove tamil antiquity their claims are based on imaginations.There is lot of contradictions among tamil ''scholars'' regarding '' tamil'' brahmi script , dates of tolkappiyam and sangama litreature this itself proves their claims are false
tamil fools try hard to prove thier language as oldest but no one will belive them
even sangam gramer was writen by north indian origins, tamil language,tamil grammer,tamil kingdoms founded by ancient north indians who migrated to south and not belong to natives of tamil region. We andhrapradesh people r the ancestors of south and north
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#3066 Apr 6, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> kumari kandam is a myth, tamil language and tamilnadu is only 300 b.c. Which founded by north indians,andhras r the ancestors of whole india north and south. Andhras r the natives of india and the first civilized people and ancestors of north and south indians. Andhras r the inventors of early indian languages
I am not wriiten Fake Information. This information given by India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO) & Graham Hancock -British marine archaeologist

FYI,

Ancient port Cities in Tamil Nadu any time between 17,000 and 12,000 years.

Here underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence ..Graham Hancock -British marine archaeologist not a Tamil & India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO) not a Tamil,.

U can get lot of evidence tamil (cradle of modern civilization).

CHENNAI, INDIA, January 5, 2003: A British marine archaeologist and author Graham Hancock has been examining a submerged city on the East Coast of Tamil Nadu. Mr. Hancock says a civilization thriving there may predate the Sumerian civilization of Mesopotamia in present-day Iraq and definitely existed before the Harappan civilization in India and Pakistan. He has been excavating the site off the coast of Poompuhar, near Nagapattinam, 400 km south of Chennai. At a meeting of the Mythic Society in Bangalore in early December, Mr. Hancock said underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence that corroborated Tamil mythological stories of ancient floods. He said tidal waves of 400 feet or more could have swallowed this flourishing port city any time between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago, the date of the last Ice Age. The Gulf of Cambay was also submerged, taking with it evidence of early man's migration. The populations Mr. Wells and Mr. Pitchappan (see previous article) mapped settled on India's East Coast 50,000 to 35,000 years ago and developed into modern man. According to Hancock, "the Poompuhar underwater site could well provide evidence that it was the cradle of modern civilization." Hancock's theory is strengthened by findings of India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), which has explored the site since the 1980s. Man-made structures like well rims, horseshoe-shaped building sites are some of the lost city's secrets. At low tide, some brick structures from the Sangam era are still visible in places like Vanagiri. The region, archaeologists say, has been built over and over again through the ages and some of its past is now being revealed. Mr. Glenn Milne, a British geologist from Durham University, has confirmed Hancock's theory.
More information is found at:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_132193 ...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3067 Apr 6, 2014
Shiva Telangana wrote:
As a spoken language Telugu is older than tamil. tamil is derived from Telugu tamil fools have no proper evidence to prove tamil antiquity their claims are based on imaginations.There is lot of contradictions among tamil ''scholars'' regarding '' tamil'' brahmi script , dates of tolkappiyam and sangama litreature this itself proves their claims are false
tamil fools try hard to prove thier language as oldest but no one will belive them
u r 100 % correct man,this is the opinion of whole india and 100% fact that as a spoken language telugu is very older than tamil and derived from telugu
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3068 Apr 6, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not wriiten Fake Information. This information given by India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO) & Graham Hancock -British marine archaeologist
FYI,
Ancient port Cities in Tamil Nadu any time between 17,000 and 12,000 years.
Here underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence ..Graham Hancock -British marine archaeologist not a Tamil & India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO) not a Tamil,.
U can get lot of evidence tamil (cradle of modern civilization).
CHENNAI, INDIA, January 5, 2003: A British marine archaeologist and author Graham Hancock has been examining a submerged city on the East Coast of Tamil Nadu. Mr. Hancock says a civilization thriving there may predate the Sumerian civilization of Mesopotamia in present-day Iraq and definitely existed before the Harappan civilization in India and Pakistan. He has been excavating the site off the coast of Poompuhar, near Nagapattinam, 400 km south of Chennai. At a meeting of the Mythic Society in Bangalore in early December, Mr. Hancock said underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence that corroborated Tamil mythological stories of ancient floods. He said tidal waves of 400 feet or more could have swallowed this flourishing port city any time between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago, the date of the last Ice Age. The Gulf of Cambay was also submerged, taking with it evidence of early man's migration. The populations Mr. Wells and Mr. Pitchappan (see previous article) mapped settled on India's East Coast 50,000 to 35,000 years ago and developed into modern man. According to Hancock, "the Poompuhar underwater site could well provide evidence that it was the cradle of modern civilization." Hancock's theory is strengthened by findings of India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), which has explored the site since the 1980s. Man-made structures like well rims, horseshoe-shaped building sites are some of the lost city's secrets. At low tide, some brick structures from the Sangam era are still visible in places like Vanagiri. The region, archaeologists say, has been built over and over again through the ages and some of its past is now being revealed. Mr. Glenn Milne, a British geologist from Durham University, has confirmed Hancock's theory.
More information is found at:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_132193 ...
first of all kumari kandam is a myth,no evidences found about tamil language in kumari kandam, tamil language and tamilnadu state is only old as 300 b.c. Which estd and written by north indians,agasthya,sidhars and jains,andhras r the ancestors of whole india north and south. Andhras r the natives of india and the first civilized people and ancestors of north and south indians. Andhras r the inventors of early indian languages
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3069 Apr 6, 2014
Vinod S wrote:
<quoted text>
Chozhas, Pandyas, Cheras, Pallavas all these were Tamil Dynasty... Telugu formation only on 11th AD. Battiprolu script is Prakrit... Telugu is an Offshoot of Tamil...This is Actual... Naveens Postings are all fake.. How come Indian govt diclared Tamil first as the classical language ? think... At the time of Pallavas Only Tamil and Sanskrit were in use...Not Telugu...
Telugu is the Mixture of Tamil, Sanskrit, Arabic and the Script of telugu wereTaken from KANNADA with minute changes... This is true man.. Agree the fact.
fool,4th century pallava inscriptions in caves and temples in tamilnadu are in telugu only fool,fool telugu was there before tamil and before 400 b.c. But telugu gramer was composed slowly,andhras official languages r sanskrit and telugu, andhras early literatures and grammer were in sanskrit, telugu was the another version of andhras existed before 400 b.c. But telugu script was not a fully developed script,thats why telugus didn't composed grammer in telugu. Now we have more than 25 languages in ap even some have script also those languages r remained for some groups only from 16th c.e.,but telugu is the oficial language of ap. But Tamil gramer was created by north indians agasthya and gramer was written by north indian agasthya,sidhars,jains by using the bhattiprolu script which introduced to tamil area by ashoka from telugu,bhattiprolu(telugu)scri pt was the base mother for tamil brahmi at 250 b.c. Tamil grammer was composed by north indians who migrated to south between 100 b.c. To 800 a.d.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3070 Apr 6, 2014
Vinod S wrote:
<quoted text>
Chozhas, Pandyas, Cheras, Pallavas all these were Tamil Dynasty... Telugu formation only on 11th AD. Battiprolu script is Prakrit... Telugu is an Offshoot of Tamil...This is Actual... Naveens Postings are all fake.. How come Indian govt diclared Tamil first as the classical language ? think... At the time of Pallavas Only Tamil and Sanskrit were in use...Not Telugu...
Telugu is the Mixture of Tamil, Sanskrit, Arabic and the Script of telugu wereTaken from KANNADA with minute changes... This is true man.. Agree the fact.
first u acept the facts,Facts about tamilnadu; kingdoms in tamilnadu were established by north and north west indians like cholas(vellalars of north india) cheras are north indians,pandyas r devars of north west india. Pallavas r origins from andhra,Medieval tamilnadu was formed by medieval cholas are telugu who r rajputs of north india, nayaks r origins from telugu,Tamil language and grammer was created by north indian sage agasthya and siddhars,and ancient jains from north indian also composed tamil grammer. Tamil grammer is a modified version of sanskrit grammer which was copied and modified by north indians. Tamil grammer and history was created by north indians and andhras.Modern Tamilnadu was for formed with 42% of telugu people, pallavas/telugus r founders of temple architectures which was copied and builted by cholas(ancient north indians) in tamilnadu. Tamil is a tribal version of telugu language.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3071 Apr 6, 2014
Modern Tamilnadu was formed with 42% of telugu people, pallavas/telugus r founders of temple architectures which was copied and builted by cholas(ancient north indians) in tamilnadu. Tamil is a tribal version of telugu language, Politicians, present tamilnadu governor roshaiah is a telugu, powerful cms in tn are telugus like jayalalitha,karunanidhi,anna etc... The tamils music god tyagaraja is a telugu,bodhi dharma is a telugu, and more genius people in tamilnadu r telugu people,most of the tamilnadu nri's in singapore,malaysia,fizi r the origins of telugu,no intelligent person was born in fake tamilnadu. Tamils just feel proud about their temples which was builted by telugus and north indian cholas. Tamilnadu is a fake state. But u tamil fools cant accept the facts bcoz u feel shame about ur real history, u tamil communities r the genes formed by the merging of north indians and andhras. Andhras r the ancestors of whole india north and south india
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#3072 Apr 6, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> first u acept the facts,Facts about tamilnadu; kingdoms in tamilnadu were established by north and north west indians like cholas(vellalars of north india) cheras are north indians,pandyas r devars of north west india. Pallavas r origins from andhra,Medieval tamilnadu was formed by medieval cholas are telugu who r rajputs of north india, nayaks r origins from telugu,Tamil language and grammer was created by north indian sage agasthya and siddhars,and ancient jains from north indian also composed tamil grammer. Tamil grammer is a modified version of sanskrit grammer which was copied and modified by north indians. Tamil grammer and history was created by north indians and andhras.Modern Tamilnadu was for formed with 42% of telugu people, pallavas/telugus r founders of temple architectures which was copied and builted by cholas(ancient north indians) in tamilnadu. Tamil is a tribal version of telugu language.
FYI,

The three ancient Tamil empires of Chera, Chola, and Pandya were of ancient origins.

Example - One King (Chola empire spanned almost 3,600,000 km²(1,389,968 sq mi) straddling the Bay of Bengal. The Chola navy held sway over the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Southeast Asia.)Rajendra Chola I (Rajendra Chola the Great) was the son of Rajaraja Chola I and considered one of the greatest rulers and military leaders of the Tamil Chola Empire. He succeeded his father in 1014 CE as the Chola emperor. During his reign, he extended the influences of the already vast Chola empire up to the banks of the river Ganges in the north and across the ocean. Rajendra’s territories extended coastal Burma, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Lakshadweep, Maldives, conquered the kings of Srivijaya (Sumatra, Java and Malay Peninsula in South East Asia) and Pegu islands with his fleet of ships. He defeated Mahipala, the Pala king of Bengal and Bihar, and to commemorate his victory he built a new capital called Gangaikonda Cholapuram. The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign. The Tamil Chola armies exacted tribute from Thailand and the Khmer kingdom of Cambodia.

The region of Tamil Nadu in modern India has been under continuous human habitation since prehistoric era from 25,000 BCE to 10,000 BCE.Throughout its history, spanning the early Upper Paleolithic age to modern times, this region has coexisted with various external cultures. Except for relatively short periods in its history, the Tamil region has remained independent of external occupation.

The three ancient Tamil empires of Chera, Chola, and Pandya were of ancient origins. Together they ruled over this land with a unique culture and language, contributing to the growth of some of the oldest extant literature in the world. They had extensive maritime trade contacts with the Roman empire. These four dynasties were in constant struggle with each other vying for hegemony over the land. Invasion by the Kalabhras during the 3rd century disturbed the traditional order of the land by displacing the three ruling kingdoms. These occupiers were overthrown by the resurgence of the Pandyas and the Pallavas, who restored the traditional kingdoms. The Cholas, who re-emerged from obscurity in the 9th century by defeating the Pallavas and the Pandyas, rose to become a great power and extended their empire over the entire southern peninsula. At its height the Chola empire spanned almost 3,600,000 km²(1,389,968 sq mi) straddling the Bay of Bengal.

The Chola navy held sway over the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Southeast Asia.
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3073 Apr 6, 2014
Shiva Telangana wrote:
As a spoken language Telugu is older than tamil. tamil is derived from Telugu tamil fools have no proper evidence to prove tamil antiquity their claims are based on imaginations.There is lot of contradictions among tamil ''scholars'' regarding '' tamil'' brahmi script , dates of tolkappiyam and sangama litreature this itself proves their claims are false
tamil fools try hard to prove thier language as oldest but no one will belive them
u r absolutely correct, this is the opinion of whole india
CIVAN

Dubai, UAE

#3074 Apr 7, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
Modern Tamilnadu was formed with 42% of telugu people, pallavas/telugus r founders of temple architectures which was copied and builted by cholas(ancient north indians) in tamilnadu. Tamil is a tribal version of telugu language, Politicians, present tamilnadu governor roshaiah is a telugu, powerful cms in tn are telugus like jayalalitha,karunanidhi,anna etc... The tamils music god tyagaraja is a telugu,bodhi dharma is a telugu, and more genius people in tamilnadu r telugu people,most of the tamilnadu nri's in singapore,malaysia,fizi r the origins of telugu,no intelligent person was born in fake tamilnadu. Tamils just feel proud about their temples which was builted by telugus and north indian cholas. Tamilnadu is a fake state. But u tamil fools cant accept the facts bcoz u feel shame about ur real history, u tamil communities r the genes formed by the merging of north indians and andhras. Andhras r the ancestors of whole india north and south india
Cool..........

TOPIX is Which is the Oldest Indian Language? Sanskrit Vs Tamil

In india only one languge have non sanskrit Literature - Tamil Literature .

FYI,

Indus Valley , Harappan culture 2600 BC( North India ) & Poompukar (South India )17,000 BC ( ICE Age ) India belong to Tamil people .

1. Telugu people copied all literatere ( 1100 AD )form Tamil & Sankrit , parkrit .
2.Telugu Grammar (1100 AD )Copy from Sanskrit Grammar ..
3.Telugu Script Copy from Parkiti
4. Telugu Language mixed with ( Sanskrit , Tamil & Parkrit & Arabic , Nizam , Mugal )

Telugu people copied every thing for other people .....

“Archaeological and linguistic evidence indicates that the Dravidians - Dramila - Dimila - tamil(TAMILS) were the founders of the Harappan culture which extended from the Indus Valley through northeastern Afghanistan, on into Turkestan. The Harappan civilization existed from 2600-1700 BC. The Harappan civilization was twice the size the Old Kingdom of Egypt. In addition to trade relations with Mesopotamia and Iran, the Harappan city states also had active trade relations with the Central Asian peoples.”(Clyde Ahmad Winters, who has written extensively on Dravidian origins commented:)
“Dravidians(TAMILS), whose descendents still live in Southern India, established the first city communities, in the Indus valley, introduced irrigation schemes, developed pottery and evolved a well ordered system of government.”

Indo-European languages

Indo-European languages seem to have begun in the area between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, in what is now Armenia and Georgia. the people who spoke those langages travelled to neighboring countries and took their language with them. But certainly languages related to Indo-European ones were spoken in many different places by about 1000 BC.
In Asia, the Indo-European branch is mainly represented by two major groups: Indian and Iranian, which were known a long time before Christian Era. Due to their close linguistic relationships, they are often jointly designated by the name of “Indo-Iranian” or “Aryan”.

Example .

North Indian All Language very very Young Language 1000 AD only .

Hindi : Urdu : Nepali : Bengali : Assamese : Oriya
Kashmiri : Punjabi : Sindhi : Marathi : Gujarati
Bhili : Lahnda : Maithili : Magahi
Konkani : Sinhalese : Maldivian : Romany

Telugu Language 500 AD only.

Tamil is the mother( Annai ) of Native indian Language ,
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3075 Apr 7, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI,
The three ancient Tamil empires of Chera, Chola, and Pandya were of ancient origins.
Example - One King (Chola empire spanned almost 3,600,000 km²(1,389,968 sq mi) straddling the Bay of Bengal. The Chola navy held sway over the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Southeast Asia.)Rajendra Chola I (Rajendra Chola the Great) was the son of Rajaraja Chola I and considered one of the greatest rulers and military leaders of the Tamil Chola Empire. He succeeded his father in 1014 CE as the Chola emperor. During his reign, he extended the influences of the already vast Chola empire up to the banks of the river Ganges in the north and across the ocean. Rajendra’s territories extended coastal Burma, the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Lakshadweep, Maldives, conquered the kings of Srivijaya (Sumatra, Java and Malay Peninsula in South East Asia) and Pegu islands with his fleet of ships. He defeated Mahipala, the Pala king of Bengal and Bihar, and to commemorate his victory he built a new capital called Gangaikonda Cholapuram. The Cholas became one of the most powerful dynasties in Asia during his reign. The Tamil Chola armies exacted tribute from Thailand and the Khmer kingdom of Cambodia.
The region of Tamil Nadu in modern India has been under continuous human habitation since prehistoric era from 25,000 BCE to 10,000 BCE.Throughout its history, spanning the early Upper Paleolithic age to modern times, this region has coexisted with various external cultures. Except for relatively short periods in its history, the Tamil region has remained independent of external occupation.
The three ancient Tamil empires of Chera, Chola, and Pandya were of ancient origins. Together they ruled over this land with a unique culture and language, contributing to the growth of some of the oldest extant literature in the world. They had extensive maritime trade contacts with the Roman empire. These four dynasties were in constant struggle with each other vying for hegemony over the land. Invasion by the Kalabhras during the 3rd century disturbed the traditional order of the land by displacing the three ruling kingdoms. These occupiers were overthrown by the resurgence of the Pandyas and the Pallavas, who restored the traditional kingdoms. The Cholas, who re-emerged from obscurity in the 9th century by defeating the Pallavas and the Pandyas, rose to become a great power and extended their empire over the entire southern peninsula. At its height the Chola empire spanned almost 3,600,000 km²(1,389,968 sq mi) straddling the Bay of Bengal.
The Chola navy held sway over the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Southeast Asia.
raja raja chola,rajendra cholas r the eastern chalukyas, eastern chalukyas merged with cholas at 8th century a.d. Eastern chalukyas are medieval cholas
Vinod S

Bangalore, India

#3076 Apr 7, 2014
Naveen kumar wrote:
<quoted text> u r 100 % correct man,this is the opinion of whole india and 100% fact that as a spoken language telugu is very older than tamil and derived from telugu
When the language is Wholly Depended on Another languages it cannot be termed as the Ancient language. In that way Telugu is the combination of Sanskrit, Tamil and Arabic and the Scripts were borrowed from Kannada.. There are no proofs which says Pallavas were telugu... Telugu formation on 11AD only.... Tamils were ruling the Entire India... Tamils lived in Himalayas in ancient times... That Telangana Shiva fellow talks rubbish because he is shaded under the saree of an italian.... shameless fellows.....you too...
Naveen kumar

Ashburn, VA

#3077 Apr 7, 2014
CIVAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Cool..........
TOPIX is Which is the Oldest Indian Language? Sanskrit Vs Tamil
In india only one languge have non sanskrit Literature - Tamil Literature .
FYI,
Indus Valley , Harappan culture 2600 BC( North India ) & Poompukar (South India )17,000 BC ( ICE Age ) India belong to Tamil people .
1. Telugu people copied all literatere ( 1100 AD )form Tamil & Sankrit , parkrit .
2.Telugu Grammar (1100 AD )Copy from Sanskrit Grammar ..
3.Telugu Script Copy from Parkiti
4. Telugu Language mixed with ( Sanskrit , Tamil & Parkrit & Arabic , Nizam , Mugal )
Telugu people copied every thing for other people .....
“Archaeological and linguistic evidence indicates that the Dravidians - Dramila - Dimila - tamil(TAMILS) were the founders of the Harappan culture which extended from the Indus Valley through northeastern Afghanistan, on into Turkestan. The Harappan civilization existed from 2600-1700 BC. The Harappan civilization was twice the size the Old Kingdom of Egypt. In addition to trade relations with Mesopotamia and Iran, the Harappan city states also had active trade relations with the Central Asian peoples.”(Clyde Ahmad Winters, who has written extensively on Dravidian origins commented:)
“Dravidians(TAMILS), whose descendents still live in Southern India, established the first city communities, in the Indus valley, introduced irrigation schemes, developed pottery and evolved a well ordered system of government.”
Indo-European languages
Indo-European languages seem to have begun in the area between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, in what is now Armenia and Georgia. the people who spoke those langages travelled to neighboring countries and took their language with them. But certainly languages related to Indo-European ones were spoken in many different places by about 1000 BC.
In Asia, the Indo-European branch is mainly represented by two major groups: Indian and Iranian, which were known a long time before Christian Era. Due to their close linguistic relationships, they are often jointly designated by the name of “Indo-Iranian” or “Aryan”.
Example .
North Indian All Language very very Young Language 1000 AD only .
Hindi : Urdu : Nepali : Bengali : Assamese : Oriya
Kashmiri : Punjabi : Sindhi : Marathi : Gujarati
Bhili : Lahnda : Maithili : Magahi
Konkani : Sinhalese : Maldivian : Romany
Telugu Language 500 AD only.
Tamil is the mother( Annai ) of Native indian Language ,
telugu early inscriptions with telugu words found from b.c. 400 to various periods upto a.d. 300. Tamil early inscriptions r cave inscriptions at 250 b.c. Which introduced by ashoka to tamils from bhattiprolu telugu script at 250 b.c. Bhattiprolu script is the mother of tamil brahmi, early kanada inscriptions are tagarthi inscriptions at 375 a.d. Early malayalam inscriptions are vajhapally inscriptions at 830 a.d. Tamils r the copycats from telugus cultures and traditions this is fact. Telugu is mother of tamil and tamil was derived from telugu dialect with sanskrit mix

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